Spotting The Queen, Roasting Cars and Selling The 911? Ft. @stjarnagloss - C.R.E.A.M. #46
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Transcript
- Edwin
- Will
0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin
And the final car I'm going to sell is the TDC 911.
Whoa!
Yeah, I'm good.
Yeah.
You know what?
You ruined a child's dream.
You know what?
Son's crying, thanks.
This is why you should bring that bully in.
I saw the Queen's growler in slough.
Hello, and welcome back to the Cars Rule
Everything Around Me podcast,
joined by myself, Edwin, Will to my left,
No Ben behind the camera looks.
Instead, we have special guest,
we have from Shana Gloss, also 46 episode
we'll get into.
But hey, it was like you said before we
started, it was written in the stars.
It was.
At the beginning of every single podcast,
we answer the question whether cars rule or
ruin everything around us.
Calf, what is it for you this week?
Rule.
Okay.
Rule.
Is it because of what's behind us?
Just because everything literally by whole
world revolves around cars.
So it will always rule my life.
Does it ruin it this week?
No.
Yeah.
Because the M2 is fixed last week,
it definitely ruined my life.
So behind us is your M2.
We pulled it in for those visual viewers.
If you're not listening, you can see a rather
large wing cropping out either side of Gran
Turismo 3, which we've got playing on the screen.
What is the little story on this car?
Because it's not stock M2 for those that
can't see it.
It's not stock M2, but I am so gutted that I
didn't realize this was episode 46 because I
should have brought the 46.
M2 Comp is my interpretation of carbon rules,
everything around me, because by the doors,
everything that can be carbon is now carbon fiber.
And then just because it does so well on
social media and lightweight,
whilst I'm not enough of a pilot to know the
difference, I do think there's a bit of value
in taking as much weight out as you can,
because the 46 is night and day difference
between standard weight and what it is now.
And in the color, because if I can tell you
make it, I want a free RS, but I haven't got
a free RS money.
So what is painted is Vesuvius Grey,
which is the 907.
I believe 907.3 RS.2 launch color or press
color, something like that.
I remember it being heavily photographed back
in the day.
And also, what's the plate?
Those of them?
Oh, yeah.
So we're saving the manuals.
Yeah.
So it's Ono to DCT, which we've also got Ono to SMG.
And we own Ono to PDK as well for future.
Nice.
Yeah.
Look at the head.
Yeah.
Hopefully.
Wishful thinking.
We got Ono to Hawaira.
You know, when you get your Zonda.
Yeah.
I think they made all those gearbox things in
a nice 3D format.
DSG, you get a couple in there.
We did toy with, if you get a 991 onwards
3RS, we might have to buy it.
YE 52 PDK.
Yes.
It was a rocketing in value.
William, for you this week, Rule or Ruin.
Now, I'm going to go with a ruin,
actually.
It was almost so close to a rule.
So I got my Mégane back the other day.
We got back from Monterey, did a week of
3:11 Will's Mégane Track Day Experience
work here, and then I had a track day booked
on the Saturday just bean.
So, and I picked up my Mégane from Beanie
Sport, which is 20 minutes from Bedford.
So I said to them, right, car's done.
I'll come to you and I'm going straight to
the track day.
They were a bit like, oh, okay.
It's quite a test.
I was like, yeah, but it's perfect.
Picked it up, drove it there.
It was great, but I still have like a weird
breaks issue, which is not nice.
Also, I took my girlfriend.
I said, I convinced her that please,
just come on a track day.
I just want to show you because she doesn't
trust my driving ever.
And I cannot understand why.
So I said, just come with me.
I'm not saying I'm a racing driver,
but I'll just see how it is.
She came out for the sighting lapse and said,
nah, that's it.
That's a night ten o'clock.
And then obviously I came back here and I
said, look, we just come out for one lap,
one proper lap.
But she'd heard me talking about the spongy
brakes and said, you said something about a
spongy brakes, I'm not coming out.
So what was it?
You said the kitcar road has said,
would you told me about it?
Oh, there was a guy.
He's either a listener of the podcast or he
watches TDC or both.
And he had a kitcar with a fire blade engine.
And we were sort of like quite similarly matched.
And then I came back in, I told him about it.
And he went, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'll stay out your way.
No, you would no brakes sailing through the infield.
I came up behind into bed.
They weren't dangerous.
They just didn't feel very confidence inspiring.
I came up behind man.
I just saw the indicator go on.
Great tactic.
Just mind games going up to everyone at the track.
They're going, I'd stay out of my way.
Yeah.
Great idea.
You've seen that fluid under my car.
Great way to have a free track,
free and clear track.
They were no misses.
But yeah, I would call it a ruin because I
thought I'd have it back, but it's not.
But soon, soon come again back.
I am a mix.
I actually saved some news.
I didn't even tell it.
I didn't even tell you.
It's not.
I haven't bought another car.
I promise.
It's actually the opposite of that.
I am a rule because I got my E36.
I got a load of wheel bearing stuff that was
keeping it on the ramp.
And it is now, I've been driving around for
the last few days in the last bit of sunshine.
If you don't know, I have a three on six I,
E36.
I didn't know that.
It's white powerhouse.
It's white slick top with white,
comprehensive 18s.
So it looks and it is slammed.
The rear arch just tucks to the edge of the wheel.
It's perfect.
It looks like a touring car.
It does, however, still have a three on six.
by manual.
So I've been trying that car around and I
keep getting people like in traffic being
like, oh, it's sick.
I've had a C63 come off alongside me the
other day and be like, yeah,
let's go.
I was like, no, no, it's seven to five horsepower.
I actually went out of it the other day to go
and do some filming bit.
And we got to a junction and I've put an LSD
risk up for a minute.
So it's got all gear.
It's just missing that engine part.
I said to bed, I wonder if it'll even spin a tire.
So I revved it to red line.
I let it bang off the limiter once or two
times just to make sure it was a red line.
Let off the clutch.
And it went, it didn't even try to spin away.
It just said, I'm just going to mash your
clutch up mate.
I didn't realize you came back and told me
you said 70 horsepower.
I thought you were taking it first.
Yeah, that's like a round about what it is.
I don't think 75 is
6:22 Edwin's E36 Driving Impressions
what a standard one six early one six has.
That's just not good at all.
It's really bad.
I had the, I bought a donor car.
car with the intention of putting a B-58 in
it and a 36 B-20i auto.
And I thought surely this is the Bizans car.
It was the orangey color.
It was new nose one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because loads of people said to me,
you should buy it.
And I was like, I've got too many.
And I've, I've fell out of love with the idea
because the best bit about the 46 is the chassis.
The worst bit is the reliability.
The best bit about the M2 is the reliability,
but the worst bit is the numbness.
And I thought, if I take the unreliability of
an the 36, pair it with the numbness of a
modern image, a B58.
I'm going to have the worst of both worlds.
Anyway, 320i auto, big stamp on the middle
pedal, lunched it.
And I was like, surely this will go.
And it just...
That's a whole number 200 CC.
Is it a 318?
I think it was a 318.
So yeah, you've got no chance.
Yeah, literally 1/6 bless it.
But the best part is I, and the reason I,
my ears perked is that I also own a 3 on 6
auto grandma spec.
It has the small, the little pepper pot wheels.
And they're actually, yeah, they're the SE wheels.
The black lower trims is cloth interior.
It's a horrible car.
But it's the car I think I love the most of
all the cars.
'Cause it's the only car that I get and I
don't act like a prat.
I just drive it.
But my end goal with that car,
and I will not sell it until I do it,
is to put a B58 in it with a ZF8 speed also,
but make it look completely standard for me outside.
There is no, there is nothing to it at all.
But that also brings me on to the other thing.
I'm going to sell five cars.
Holy hell.
I've actually, and I've committed to this.
Who put you up to this?
Well, are the police at the top?
I've got no license anymore.
No, so I, will I recently drove our dream cars?
Well, actually, you drove your dream car twofold.
You drive in a world.
I drove 550 Maranello, and then you drove in Mercilago.
And I started doing research 'cause I'm,
I can't leave anything alone,
right?
Will drove the glardo and went cool.
I could own one of these.
Just a standard glardo.
I drove the 550 and went, I could make
something really cool out of this.
I, if this had coils, or maybe if this had
things, or maybe if this had,
I found out that they do an ITB kit for a,
for a 550 Maranello, Ferrari.
No one's ever done it before.
They make the kit, but no one's done it.
No customers.
No customers.
But they do make the kit.
Genv, you do the kit.
Genv, if you're listening, please,
man.
But anyway, I realized I have 10 cars.
They're all shit.
None of them are good.
They're not none of them other than the M3,
which is all of my money, isn't that?
There's just too many projects for me to do
to get to with TDC.
In my head, I thought, I'm working on cars
for a job.
I'll get through that in a couple of months.
It's a year and a bit later,
and I've chipped into maybe one.
So I'm going to sell five cars.
I'm going to sell the C55.
Also, please do not message me yet.
I will
post on my Instagram.
I barely remember what day it is.
I'm
not going to remember if you message me now.
9:30 Selling Five Cars and Future Plans
8 Series Black, going to sell that.
Not going to sell the Alpiers though.
I can keep in those.
850i, I'm going to sell that.
Both 8 Series gone.
I'm going to sell the Evo.
I planned on doing 400 horsepower on that car.
I'll show it to you later.
It's just a parked out on the paddock.
I always wanted Evo 1, and the journey of
getting it back on the road is the thing I
think I'm most excited for.
I'd like to modify an Evo 5 or 6 one day.
I don't care as much about the one.
That sounds bad, but there's too many things.
And the final car I'm going to sell is the TDC 911.
Whoa!
Yeah, I'm good at it.
But whoa.
Now, but here's the thing.
I have a theory about this, right?
I'm not going to sell it.
I'm going to give it way on a raffle.
Because if anybody was to spend,
I'm
going to get it going as well.
I'm going to get it working.
It's not going to be sold as it is.
I'm going to reloom it, which have a loom.
It's been sitting up there for ages.
If you came to buy that car and you spent the
realistically what it's worth,
seven or eight grand, I'd be unhappy with it.
Yeah, I'd be quite upset.
Whereas if someone wins it for 10p,
fine.
And if it means, even if I don't get as much
money for it, I'd rather someone got that
car, 10p and went out as a bit of a laugh,
I'll turn it into a track car,
or I'll continue fiddling with it bits and bobs.
And all of this will be filmed for the channels.
But yeah, I've just got too many things.
I know that's the dirty, dirty subject and I apologize.
Who, those five cars?
No.
No, nowhere near.
Okay.
So this is the other thing.
The 550, as Will will tell you,
I've been scouring, I want a shell,
I want a fire damaged one, I want a crash
damaged one, 'cause I will never,
without financing myself into,
you know, oblivion, be able to afford and
look like a good 550.
What is a good 550?
So they start at like 70.
Okay.
So there's a really, a really high amount,
like an 80,000 mile one, it's high on piston
heads, that's like your 70 grand,
but even that, the idea of buying that,
I would then be too afraid to ever touch it.
If I managed somehow to sell all my family
members and acquire 70,000 pounds,
I'd buy it and then go, I don't want to touch this.
So you want to do the mamma thing,
buy one for 40, put 100 in it and then go,
this is cheaper.
Exactly that, exactly that.
But yeah, if anybody knows, are they 550?
I think I said this on the exact last
podcast, if you know a crashed one,
you know, a fire damaged one,
if you know of one that maybe someone stolen,
maybe you could see that for me,
or if you're rich, or just get your edge and
get your nation off up.
I've had a terrible donation,
you can write that stuff on Facebook.
And you're in a similar position with the
most of the longer.
Yeah, most of the longer I would love,
but I spoke to someone who does supercar
sourcing, I was out of interest,
do you know anyone who has a 6.2 manual,
I don't care the condition, as long as it has
an engine, because I still like the big bit,
tell me, like, what's going on?
And he said, I have a client who has a 30,000
mile one, which is sort of ling mileage.
He just turned down 300,000 pounds.
That's approximately double or treble,
what I was expecting.
Do you know what, Matt Armstrong?
Make sure your doors are locked here.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, we'll see.
Oh, is it you, Ed Boleon, and those curated guys.
You know what?
You've ruined a child's dream.
You know what?
Some's crying thanks.
Some's crying thanks.
So I mean, I would love a glardo still.
Someone sent me a message and they haven't
glardo on bags on, which is not my taste.
I looked at it, I thought, you know what,
brave, fair, it's a glardo on bags with
aftermarket wheels, but we'll see.
So following on from that, one of the
questions we have from you was,
what was your first car?
And what was your all-time dream car?
And then what car is next?
So first car was, and it was funny,
you mentioned it in your Monterey,
not this one.
My first car was a perfect one.
I'm sorry, sorry.
It was a T50 at that time machine.
It was a Peugeot 106 XN one liter.
500 pounds, it was post box red.
So lovely.
And the gal that owned it before me,
her dad was a paint sprayer.
They had a full re-sprayer.
Honestly, it was spotless paintwork.
This was way before car cleaning or anything like that.
But God awful slow.
But I do still believe strongly that your
first car should be a proper dinger.
Because you will probably mark every corner.
There's a preface with a manual choke.
Color-coated bumpers.
Oh, honestly, the absolute fanny magnet.
Three bolt wheels.
Three lugs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And 1500 quid to earth
of Alpine in it.
So as every 17 year old should have.
Now,
surely that was the thing that got you that
sold you on that car?
Or did you put that in?
I put it in it.
Oh, yeah.
And then quite a bad accident in it,
which wasn't my fault.
I've got to say, someone pulled out in front
of me and saw a 17 year old and went,
touch, I've got away with this.
Luckily, my insurance was quite good.
No, no, no, you pulled out in front of him,
I bounced off him, then hit the bank,
put it on two wheels, fractured a rib,
big whoopsie, but anyone that says the 106
isn't a safe car is talking utter bollocks
because it saved my life on that day.
But yeah, that went to the heaven.
And then after that was a saxophone C.R.
Oh, nice.
You asked, what's my dream car?
My dream car.
Really difficult to say one,
of course.
And then dream car is probably,
and I'm not saying this because you've just
said it, but Mercedes V.
Because last true playboy supercar
15:20 First Car and Dream Car Discussion
slash hypercar, in my opinion.
Saw one, kind of what age I was,
but we go to Harrods every year for my
birthday to get the new Harrods bear with my
godmother used to take me.
And there was one round the back,
and the guy pulled up, and he was just so
cold, and I ate just stuck.
He's in prison now, but yeah,
probably, probably, after that was his South
America, he was hiding, but it was just such
a cool experience.
And I've never driven one, I've been close to
one, but just the coolest thing ever.
And that's not me saying I don't care for
event stores, 'cause that SVJ is horny,
that noise is mega, but I feel like the event
store is the start of the finance,
bros.
And it's not quite as cool.
You don't get proof of finance unless you can
afford it, so I'm not bad male than finance,
'cause Joey and I've got, Natalie's just got
a new car on finance, but I think it's so
much cooler to go, I'll transfer for that,
'cause that's a statement to say,
it's just in the bank ready to go.
And then next car, in the short term,
I probably would get the new G87M2,
'cause I drove one on the weekend,
I've driven quite a few now,
but I drove C.T.
Carvin's one, it's just a lovely,
lovely thing, whereas this is starting to get
a bit E46, a bit crashy, a bit bouncy,
and I would like something that still does
well on social media, which is a nicer place
to sit, and every time as you boys know only
too well, every time you go around with a
car, you just make it worse,
but go into work here, and the M2 is starting
to look a bit like that now.
We just saw one of those M2s,
we just took, got some tires that we picked
up down the road, and that was the blue,
they're all in, they all seem to be in that light blue.
But it had every single end performance,
even at the wing on the back,
which I've never seen, like an Evo-style wing
with a proper, yeah, a newer M2.
And literally, the exhaust, everything.
But next the car was a man, possibly in his late 80s.
I would say it'd get a piece of cake,
and we're like, "Nah, surely not."
That was his car.
And we've heard him talking to the guy in the
tire shop, he's like, "Yeah,
you know, I got off of it."
It was, then he got 2,000 miles on it.
But it had the normal, had the comfortable
seats in it, so it had all the end
performance stuff, but then the comfy seats,
I was like, "No, fair play."
and his wife had seen a little two series and
went, "Oh, I quite like that."
And he went, "I want the best one they do."
And it's come out with the end before it's ending.
All the options.
Why is this too serious?
'Cause I'm just trying to crash.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why is it not CS written on the back?
Oh, don't worry about that.
Don't worry about that.
Wow, so you're a fellow man of taste and
culture at the Mercilago.
It's the car of all time.
Oh, we found out recently we went to Thruxton.
This was actually heartbreaking.
Oh, really?
It was the only just recently drive at Mercilago.
I've been waiting years to do that.
We were at Thruxton, which obviously
attracted you driving experiences,
that kind of thing there.
And when I was about 17, I went to Thruxton
and did like an eventador driving experience,
drove at about 15 miles an hour,
probably, and was scared of it.
But I found out we spoke to them at Thruxton
because they used to have an SV as an experienced car.
And it turns out that it would have been like
six months before I had my driving experience.
They retired that.
No.
And so we were talking to Ben,
who runs like kind of the section of Thruxton
that we speak to.
And he, we were talking about lots of cars
and the moment we said by CFV,
he went, "Oh God, that was incredible.
"That was the best car we ever had.
"I watched Will die."
(laughing)
It was an experienced car.
Yeah, yeah, we used to use it all the time.
So it would have been, I would have done it
in that car.
Had I been born perhaps a year earlier.
So we need to be ringing up mum and dad and
saying, "Come on."
Come on.
You've ruined me chances.
Yeah.
It's been six months earlier.
I need 800,000 pounds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll take it in the form of an SV.
Yeah, I'll take the normal one.
It's fine.
Now onto some other bits.
We got written down, just got some questions for you.
Cool.
Nothing too serious, but you were on the Rap
Dog podcast recently and you mentioned the
Clio 1.82 and a story related to said Clio 1.82.
Would you mind telling us stories?
Not telling us stories.
So, before, wanted to come out of the Citrum
world, just to see what undercut,
obviously Citrus Exos run out at 1.6 and then
a couple of friends, friends had the 1.72 and the 1.82.
And I remember thinking, core,
two liters, hadn't you, that must be.
Such an English thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Americans, what?
Yeah.
And so, it got a 1.72, paid,
I think it was 600 pounds, but the defazer
pulley hadn't been done.
It was due five years before.
So, dirty dirty things.
That's nice.
Had the defazer pulley done for 600 pounds,
and then we thought, well, let's go.
A friend of mine, Stag Do, and zero
preparation, other than the defazer pulley,
and presumably they all have been changed or whatever.
With the drive shaft knocking,
not severely, but you knew the drive shaft
was on the way out.
No time just threw one in the boot and
thought, well, there must be loads of garages
near the nerve purgring.
I'll just take it with me and get it done there.
And a few of the boys were like,
have your payovers.
And I was like, well, I don't have time to do it now.
So we'll just take it with us.
Anyway, turned up.
I must have topped up the oil or checked the
oil or something like that.
And in England, sorry, got to the ring,
paid the money, went round the ring with zero
knowledge other than, oh, that's the carousel.
And funnily enough, when I'd done the Ratdog
podcast, the next day it popped up on my
Facebook memories 10 years ago.
I got the time in wrong.
I said 12, it was 10 years previous.
And there was me.
And I was watching myself driving.
And bear in mind, I've been in quite a few
times now, and I really, really adore that place.
I didn't have a clue what was going on.
But I overtook more things than I got
overtook by, which proves that the ring used
to be a much safer place.
You know, a slower people just driving up
Fiat multiplers, normal stuff.
I don't even think there was a Porsche on the
track at the same time we were.
Anyway, it somehow made it.
I did one lap.
I was a big bag of nerves.
And then I think that I want to say one of
the lads said, let's check our coolant or
something quite responsible.
Yeah.
And there it was.
The awful look at sat on the inlet manifold.
And I was like, I've just driven all the way here.
And I know there isn't much Autobahn,
but we treated the whole journey like it was
the Autobahn.
And I remember seeing 130 on the clock.
I know it isn't a real 130, but 130 on a Clio
is quite fast.
Yes.
And then yet to have done that,
I don't know how the all pressure light,
I don't know how the car didn't tell me
you've left the cap off.
And then put the old filler cap back on.
No driveshaft bended.
And then I was the best man of that stag,
though, stupidly put into bookings.com for
the hotel, Nuremberg.
Oh, nice.
And most people may have made this mistake,
but not actually gone through and booked anything.
Nuremberg.
Well, hotels near Nuremberg brings you out a Munich.
Munich from the ring is a long way.
So we've done a hot lap.
Well, I say a hot lap.
It felt like a hot lap for us.
Then another four hours down to Munich,
for like the drinking part of the stag,
though.
Then came home, like we must have done best
part of 3000
22:47 Clio 1.82 Stag Do Story
miles.
She's pulled in.
And now I think now I take safety a
bit more seriously and I take cars a bit more serious.
I'm like, how did that car make it?
Yeah.
And then yeah, pulled into my house at like
two o'clock in the morning.
And then the drive shaft just went,
bang.
I bought the best car in the world.
The best car in the world.
And then yeah, got it fixed the next day.
So yeah, I do really romanticize about the
182 because it has no right being that
capable, that reliable.
And it was.
And as I say, if anyone that
knew what they were doing and could actually
pedal a car, that drive shaft would have come
out a long, long time ago.
But because I was probably just nursing it
around the cars, I'm fine.
You're doing 20%.
This is the M25 for me.
Yeah, this is normal.
And then got another one a few years later on
the trophy and bought it.
You had a trophy?
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Because I mentioned this on the Rat Dog podcast.
I think the trophy 182 is the cheapest car
that most petrol heads will go as a trophy.
Yeah, exactly.
They take it a bit seriously,
bought it for four, sold it for five,
now they were 15.
Yeah, tough.
Great.
But one thing I've never got about the trophy
is halogen headlights, I'm going to give you
an air con.
Yeah.
Are you a luxury car?
Yeah.
Or pick a side.
Yeah.
But I do love them.
Absolutely adore them.
I didn't love a trophy, but yeah,
they're just too much more.
Have you told them before cost the story
about you nearly getting a trophy as your first car?
Oh, that was what it would have been my second car.
I had a Fiesta as my first car.
I did.
It was the longest I've ever only been to
years because of insurance.
I was like, let me get some no claims on
doors and then we'll go.
And then at the time, my dad had a trophy,
one or two trophy.
It cost him, I want to say it cost him about three grand.
It was nice.
It was really nice.
He had the Bamper's rebuilt,
which is quite a very common thing in those.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Loads of bits done on it.
And I was, I think I must have been 1920 at
the time, two years, no claims,
no incidents, anything like that.
And I was like, I'm going to sell the Fiesta,
which I think was worth about 1500 quid to two grand.
So my dad said to me, because I think at this
time he just bought an Evo and he wanted the trophy gone.
He's like, you can have that for two grand.
If you could ensure it.
I'm fairly sure I spoke to every single insurer.
I was like a call center.
Yeah, if you can get back to me,
I've got another one online yet.
Next one.
And like a hard limiter.
No, yeah.
I was like, I could get used to this.
Yeah.
19 years of old.
19 years of old.
And I'm going, I need this.
But no one would ensure me.
Which is understandable to be fair.
Remind me, how many of them were there?
500.
500.
Yeah.
Am I right in saying 400 came here and 100
went to Switzerland of the right hand drive,
mate?
Something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're not like spread out through Europe.
There's only like one or two countries.
The sax dampers, you're right.
I forgot how important that was because every
listing had sax dampers rebuilt.
And they are, in today's money,
nothing special.
But God forbid you put coilovers on a trophy.
That's sacrilege.
My dad has a trophy.
He bought a second one a few years ago.
Basically, he likes the red.
And it's the only way to get them to 1.82.
So he bought one, didn't have sax dampers.
I want to say the car was at four or five grand.
And this was recently, so it was good money.
Yeah.
Previously, crash damaged.
And it's just put Bill Steins on it.
And it's probably just as good as a...
He's bought some sax dampers for him in the future.
Just to sell it with him.
But again, you can buy better dampers.
And they cost a lot.
And you only buy two.
The rares are just normal.
And I'm right in saying the red,
which is the Renault Scenic breast release colour.
Really?
I don't know how that's special colour.
I think it was the, I think it was the,
I think it was the Scenic colour without the
metallic flake.
Nice.
It was a cheaper version.
Obvocenic.
It's like not sexy at all.
They must have just blown their load on the
sex dampers and offer that money.
So we got some of this already.
Given the halogens as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My dad's one's got, doesn't have the original
Recaro's in it.
They've been chate, then Nagaro's now.
And then aftermarket exhaust,
the wheels are still the same.
Big of, it's a track, sort of half track car,
club sport car, but with a trophy.
It's a 182 in red.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just fail.
Right.
Cause the trophy forum is like,
again, like there'll be lots of other forums
like this, but the trophy one in particular
is like, right, this is my number.
Yeah.
Yeah.
sell it.
You need to be in that forum.
Yeah.
You need to update us what you are doing with that car.
So they see like a modified one and a lot of
them to be fair.
Like, you know, fair enough,
it's a trophy that's on the road.
It's cool.
But you can see some that like.
That's not.
And the seats.
But it's better modified.
And I'm right in saying the seats that came
in the two to five are the same,
but four leather and worth a fraction of the
amount that obviously on the trophy,
they're numbered.
Oh cool.
So yeah.
You see it in forums where people say,
I've got some recarias for sale.
I miss this.
I always want to know like, where did that car go?
Yeah.
Is that a dead car?
Has someone, someone out there is missing their recarias?
Some dude in a 1000 pound 172 has got 77
seats in it.
I know that there's someone who's gone on to
the forum, who hasn't gone on to the forum
for a few months or weeks ago.
No, my seat, no, I need those.
My seat.
It's not like, oh, they'll come up again.
Nope, they've gone up forever now.
What a thing, Mike.
What a thing.
I love a one eight two, even though I might sell mine.
Am I right in saying they're all 55 plates?
Yes.
50, five and oh five three.
Yeah, it's like the run out version.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you said, like that's one of the few
cars that it has the GT3 RS vibe.
Where they, where you get it.
Oh, it does.
Yeah.
Like if you turn up to a cars and coffee in a
172, they'll go make Parkinson's around the back.
Yeah, you turn up for the trophy and they go
next to the LFA.
If you could please.
Because it got that it was Evo car of the year.
Yeah.
It was in the car of the year.
I think there's those famous photos of it
that every single trophy owner will have this magazine.
Yeah.
It's Evo magazine car of the year.
It's with like a Zonda.
Yeah.
And a load of just stuff it shouldn't be with basically.
Chris Harris done a lovely feature and one
when collecting cars
had a huge Renault collection number one,
I think it was.
Was it number one?
Yeah.
And it was really romantic video.
It was mega.
What I would love to do because the trophy
compared to the R26R isn't that special.
The R26R special car.
Yeah.
Real soft spot for them.
I would love to make the R182 or the R172R.
Yeah.
White, red cage, boosted.
Oh.
With perspex windows.
And I reckon you could do it.
If you bought the, if you bought a boosted
182 for six friendly painter cage,
you could do it for sub 10.
Yeah.
That would do well on social media.
Also there are, there are carbon bonnets that
are offered.
Yeah.
There's a guy I know messes me quite a lot.
He's doing loads of carbon stuff.
Okay.
He's got carbon front bumper,
rear bumper, doors, roof.
It's the silver one.
Yes.
I know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I met with the ring.
Lovely guy.
Richard, yes.
But he's gone ape shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he sends me an update.
I'm like, whoa.
That was a clear like six months ago.
And now it's a spaceship.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just carbon everything.
And then you could do like that with some
fancy seats in it.
That'd be cool.
Would be nice.
Yeah, that would be cool.
I would like to see that.
So we'll let you do that one.
Yeah.
We'll have a go when it's done.
So moving on from that stuff,
obviously you are face of Stiana Gloss.
Stiana Gloss is a brand I've known about for a while.
And because of you, obviously,
I didn't know about it before.
I saw your stuff on TikTok and Reels and whatever else.
And I was like, no, I don't think I'm sold to
particularly often.
30:44 Stiana Gloss Brand History
So I saw your stuff and I thought,
I need to buy something.
Yeah, it has to be good.
And I just, I love the branding and
everything you've done with it.
But obviously how did you get to Stiana Gloss?
Like what is your history before that?
So I've always been a salesman from World
Duty 3 and Stan said airport when I was 19
years old, I think.
But I didn't love the product.
And then, but I did love cars.
And then I went to do, I went to an
engineering company that sold consumables
around the engineering and world in fabrication world.
And I saw some really, really cool stuff and
some really, really nice people.
But again, I didn't love that space.
And then I worked for a competitor of mine
and I was there for four years and I really,
really loved it.
Because going back ever so slightly when I
was at school, everyone said you'll be a
second-hand car salesman.
And it felt derogatory the way they said it.
So I didn't want to be that.
Truth be told, had no one have said that,
I probably would have sold second-hand cars
and been quite good at it.
And I don't mean that in an arrogant
standpoint,
but just that is my patter that suits me quite well.
And I grew up watching Only Fools and Horses
from as long as I can remember,
I have watched Only Fools and Horses.
And it probably has affected my,
or influenced my persona.
I quite a lot because I am very,
very lucky.
And I do not say this with any arrogance.
I am very lucky because I can just talk at a
camera and it's always salesy focused.
And I didn't, again, I am so lucky to say this.
Please don't
think for a second I take it for granted.
Sometimes I don't have anything to say.
And then I hit record and I walk around and
these words come out.
And it's almost like I'm watching myself.
I'm like, how is this happening?
I don't know how I've just done that.
And I am very, very lucky that in 2025,
in the 2000s, social media selling is,
dare I say, the most important place to do it.
Because you instead of having to deliver the
same pitch to 100 customers,
you can make that video once and 100,000
people see it.
So I am really, really lucky that drama from
the age of three and then sales in my early
career have sort of combined it to social media sales.
You entertain, you educate, and then at least
to a sale.
And it was so accidental that I sell a
relatively inexpensive product.
It's £10.
I'm not saying our product is cheap,
but a 10 is a 10 up.
And I can
demonstrate it on cars that are a much higher value.
So you can show people, you can have some
real curb appeal in the background.
But what you're trying to sell them is
relatively inexpensive in comparison.
And the craziest thing, and I will never stop
mentioning this story, 'cause I think it's so
important for anyone trying to start a
business or anyone intimidated by social media.
I get it.
Stjarnagloss was never, I was never meant to
be the face of Stjarnagloss.
When we started the brand, it was meant to be
like Supreme.
And I've got our business plan written down.
Like I'm not making this up.
Supreme was King of the Castle when we
started this brand six years.
ago in that there was no face of Supreme,
but there were people camping outside to get Supreme.
And nobody really knew why it was just that
it had that exclusive feel.
And the fuel can was meant to be our box logo.
It was just, I need that thing.
And the original version of fuel can,
you couldn't buy it.
So that was meant to be a need to know basis
on the passenger seat of cars.
And everybody wanted to know more about it.
But then COVID kicked in and it was like,
whoa, panic moment.
But if you just keep going, you find your niche.
And now,
as I say, I'm just a fountain of words.
It just comes naturally.
But if you care enough, please go and watch
some of the earlier videos, because they are pants.
And I didn't, I have to say,
I worked really hard to get to where we are now.
So what I'm getting at is, if you are unsure
and you are intimidated,
you will
find your niche.
That is the exact thing that we
say to anyone that ever says to us,
how do I start a
YouTube channel?
Just go.
Because we look back on our first
five, 10, 50, TDC videos.
And I don't like them.
And they're not great to me.
Someone might still like them,
but you just go, just start.
Because you'll never, you'll never perfect it
enough to start with a banger.
It will not happen.
I know you think in your head,
in my head, I still think I could do it.
If you work for the slate cleaner,
I could start with a good one.
No, it won't.
It won't be good.
If you're starting something new,
you are going to learn along the way.
It's inevitable.
And no matter how professional you are at one
thing, if you move into something else that
you've never done before, you're going to
mess it up along the way.
And actually, part of that is what's
endearing to some people.
Absolutely.
You're going to go, this guy hasn't come in
as if to say, oh, no, this works.
You're going to listen to me.
It's okay, I'm seeing this person.
The people who have followed you for a long
time, they're going, okay, I've seen you
start from there.
And now you're doing this with the builds and
whatever else.
So people like that, human touch.
Same reason, Matt Armstrong is so successful.
Yeah.
He does not hide any part of his fumbles,
his mistakes, his issues.
He goes, yeah, I missed it up.
I might get it right on the next one.
That's human.
Yes, that's exact.
You mentioned the fuel cans.
Those are for the, oh, God, you're listening.
We've got completely forgot.
Sorry.
The actual fuel can is what,
yeah, that's your, I guess, brand.
I would say it's our mascot.
That's the word I was looking for.
But people paint them in their car colors.
I mean, you've, so you've brought two along
with us today.
I think if I'm honest, the one on the bottom,
I think you might need to get your production
quality up a little bit more.
No, we decided to make a TDC one and I think
it's come out lovely.
The logo's not bad.
You did this like an hour before.
I thought it wasn't too bad.
It was also with a permanent marking paint pen.
By the way, Alex's cab, he's going to be
quite upset about this.
It does not wipe off.
No matter what you do to it,
it will not come off one of one.
And the fuel cans, a real quick overview of them.
The first ones were sponsorship only.
And then we had a lot of people inquiries and
I want one, I want one, I want one.
I said, you know, they're sponsorship only.
And I can't remember the guy.
He said, I'll buy one.
And we just never considered it.
And so they, they were quite a lot of money.
They're 300 pounds.
And now they're 400 quid because obviously
the price of anything hasn't gone down.
And but the nuts thing is, we don't do custom fuel cans.
Yeah.
We only do the whatever color it might be.
So at the moment, the current color is slate gray.
Every color, every can you see out there that
is not a original color.
Yeah, they've painted and we are so lucky.
That's so cool.
That much to customize they can.
We've now got some that flocked inside,
leather inside, a gentleman cut this
Jarnagross logo out of it and has back lit it.
Oh, that's sick.
of money on these things.
I'm like, we are so lucky to have customers
to rep your brand.
Yeah.
And it just amazing.
And I don't mean to sound wet,
but we will never take that for granted.
Yeah.
When somebody goes off, customize my can.
I'm like, is that okay?
Of course it's okay.
I know Ferrari get the upset if you do
anything with their products,
but I am all for customizing your can.
But you're one dare I say it.
Thanks.
Well, first of all, this is bigger.
20 liters.
Yeah.
And yours actually holds fuel,
whereas ours is just an inconvenience.
I'll be holding the back of it.
But it is for holding detail.
Yeah.
Obviously not like mine's empty.
Because I'm an idiot.
But yeah, they normally open up like a
briefcase and there's all the essentials that
you need for cleaning the car.
But we said before, that is,
it's such a unique, but also perfect idea.
It's a car person's object that contains car
people objects, if that makes sense.
It's something you want with you.
And it also doesn't look like a scrub daddy.
What do you call it?
Those wash bag things that just have all your
shower mats and things inside.
That's that looks wank.
Also, it's a good case for not overthinking
stuff too much.
Because if you had if you had a planning
meeting with five people in it and you're
thinking, right, we need to need a product
that we can sell for that, that amount of
money, if someone said, what about fuel can?
Everyone would go, no.
No, we'd do that.
But if you go, no, let's just try that.
Because it's like the Supreme thing,
it doesn't have to be a calculated,
or if we do this, this will will work,
and it just works.
And to be fair, it wouldn't be right to not
mention two important people,
Dom, of Dodo Juice, my director.
It was his idea, so I will never take credit
for the fuel can.
And also, it was a spin on a,
you must have seen them on the internet.
It was a guy who'd made it like a minibar,
so there was a bottle of Jack Daniels and six
cans of Coke.
So he basically put the door in it,
and then Dom was like, get that light out,
fill it up with car cleaning products.
But you're right, you would never,
I don't think anyone would ever come up with
that idea from a commercial perspective,
because they're a big pain in the backside.
I don't ship really well.
You imagine putting fuel on an invoice and
trying to send it to America.
They love it.
They love seeing the word fuel can.
So yeah, big inconvenience for shipping internationally.
And the other thing is what we didn't realize
is because they stand quite tall,
you put the logo on the front,
people then put them next to their car.
You think of something else that you can
transport, car related, that stands like,
just works so well.
But all these things we learned along the way.
So yeah, and obviously, as I mentioned
before, I've seen a load of content all over.
And actually, genuinely, I actually like
cleaning cars, but sometimes I'll see your
stuff and go, you know, I do want to get out
and try that out.
It actually has.
Yeah, because I'm bad about doing it.
I do not clean my cars, but I'll see.
I'll get a real pop off.
I'll go.
All right.
Fine.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
Force is the big one, I think.
Whenever I see that on social media,
that makes me want to cut and clean.
Yeah.
Because people like a form of a better of a
term, a miracle product.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One that you spray on and goes,
this does everything.
Obviously, there are low developments to
detailing a car.
But I look at that and go, okay,
that makes my life a million times easier.
Yeah.
But it doesn't have this like shiny,
polished, annoying video.
We've worked with brands in the past.
Yeah.
And it's boring.
It makes it really, really boring when
someone goes, the piece is incredible on us.
In a science lesson, all of a sudden,
that no one understands, people understand
the result and a smell and a look and feel and advice.
The classic.
What we learn along the way,
so as I mentioned earlier on,
my parent company don't reduce,
they are very much for the detailer.
The guy that has got far too much time on their hands.
And naturally, they thought that ethos would rub off.
If you are a detailing brand,
you should want to do it properly.
But one thing I think laziness was a cheat
code was people don't have five hours.
They've got an hour at best.
So forced, as you mentioned earlier on,
does lift so much dirt.
I'm not using this as a sales pitch,
but it is a great visual.
It's a great sales, it's a great visual
because you go dirty car, clean car,
mega.
And the other cheat code, if you will,
or laziness, what people buy into is the
protective rinse aid because you have a
completely unprotected panel,
you spray it on and then it's protected.
People want speed.
And I probably annoy some of my competitors
because it is
like, this is the quickest way to clean your
car yourself.
Obviously, you can go down the petrol station
and they can do it for you, of course,
but I still want customers that care enough
about their own car.
So I'm more than happy to lean into,
that will rip most of the dirt off.
You still need to do a contact wash and you
can protect the car and dry it in half the time.
That's what most people have got time for.
of cleaning the car.
But thank you for mentioning that because I'm
not so proud to listen to my customers.
Next door neighbor, Jason, I reference him
quite a lot.
I watch him clean his car.
Obviously, I clean my car at work.
So it's not a thing.
He has an hour on a Saturday to do his car.
And I'm like, right, that's who I need to talk to.
And thank you for, I love my,
literally my most favorite part of the job is
making the videos.
And sometimes I worry that I'm getting a
little bit too arrogant with it.
But every time I post another video,
it just gets more and more laughing faces.
And I'm like, people get it as long as we get the humor.
Because sometimes I can come across so arrogant.
And it's probably a bravado.
It's probably a persona that's come out
through years of doing it.
But I love the fact that it reminds you to
clean your car because that's fantastic.
And also again, there's the,
you said you mentioned before that you didn't
intend on being the face of Starnagloss.
But if I'm thinking of detailing brands in my
head, you're probably the only face I think of.
So back in the day, Dale.
Yeah, basically.
But in terms of right now on social media,
that's it.
And it just proves people like to see people
respond to things.
It's quite a faceless, smart,
spits stuffy.
Stuffy business-
You're not aiming at that person.
I always think about it
is that a car for a car person,
it doesn't need to be immaculate.
It needs to be that you finish the wipe,
stand back and go,
"How do we get a photo of that?"
That's it.
If you go and
look up close on my car, it's still dirty in places.
But
when I stand back, I go, "Man,
that's, I love that car.
That's my car."
That's all that matters to someone.
I mean, that much makes, feels better than a clean car.
And it's not because you've gone,
"Oh, man, there's a little swell mark on my
blank spoiler there."
Yeah, don't care.
Yeah.
I made a video the other day about Quick Detailer.
And I do treat the car to a,
if I've got a spare 20 minutes,
just go over the car with Quick Detailer.
Excuse me.
Because it will add a little bit of shine.
You will catch those bits that you've missed.
And I respect it.
We've all done it.
When you go to the petrol station,
and you spin round, and he's just got that
extra little bit of pop.
Yeah.
No, you should polish and correct the pain
and seal it and blah, blah, blah,
blah.
No one's got half a day to do that.
Yeah.
Just give a little wipe over with a Quick Detailer.
Not mine.
Anyone's.
Any Quick Detailer is the difference of,
oh, and yeah.
That's all the matters.
Yeah.
It's all the matters that makes you fall back
in love with your car.
Yeah.
Also, anything to me anyway,
personally, anything that you do to a car,
like, you know, spending three days detailing
it, that makes you then not want to drive it.
It puts me off because I'm like,
what?
It looks amazing.
But I don't want to, I don't even roll a
wheel in case there's a bit of dust on the tire.
It's so doing it quickly and efficiently.
So it's also, it's part of it as the
Instagram generation.
Of course.
Like, I want this to be clean enough that
looks great in a photo.
Yeah.
No one's going to be going over it with a,
with a light bunch of gun notes.
Yeah.
Which brings us on to a, we'll call it the
Forum of the Week.
A question to you.
It's a question we get quite often.
But what is a tip to someone on Instagram?
Instagram on, whatever social media platform
you want, doing not necessarily car stuff,
but just as someone who does it as a job,
what is a tip that you give them?
Broad, broad, just.
Hey, if you're going to do this.
Presenting videos or just social media in general.
Either or someone that is taking it,
let's say not professionally,
but you know what I mean?
Like they are, they're, they're wanting to do
it as more than just a personal page.
They're wanting to gain followers.
Give me a second to think.
Because we get asked this quite a lot.
And it's, I never know, I know what to say for YouTube.
Yeah.
Are I class YouTube and like Instagram and
TikTok as a completely wildly different thing?
Yeah.
They are, to my parents, they're the same thing.
Yeah.
But in reality, the approach is completely different.
Blake, who we spoke to, spoke about on a
couple of podcasts prior, he's the guy who
owns the Mercy Lager that we drove.
He's essentially doing social media full-time now.
He doesn't have a full-time job.
That's what he does.
But he said, I started my car page like three
years ago or something or two years ago.
Well, I think it was one year ago.
The car was eight years.
So a year ago.
And he said, I have no not missed a day.
So that's like his method of doing this.
I'm just going to post every day,
make sure it goes out.
And that's his method for growing.
And it worked.
And it worked.
He said, yeah, in the car pages one year,
and he posts once a day, hasn't stopped.
His fitness one was three years.
It's been going.
He posts twice a day.
He's never missed a day.
Wow.
That's that's big.
I think my my little tip bit would be you
guys predominantly YouTube.
I am predominantly short format.
Yeah.
I think it's really, really important to
understand the platform that you're posting
to because in short format, you need a hook quick.
And that I've only learned that in the last 18 months.
That makes a hell of a difference.
So in YouTube world, that is create the arcs of interest.
Yeah.
I think learn that understand that because if
you do and you execute it, your following
will go up.
There is a reason there is literally a
science to the social media.
And I'm not saying get boring and dig into it
like Mr Beast does, because I think he takes,
well, obviously he takes it to the end of the degree.
That's why he's the biggest YouTube in the world.
But I do think if you want to do short
format, understand the hook,
but don't, but make it your own.
Yeah.
And that's not an easy thing to say and I apologize.
But mine, and I hate to say this,
if I can swear in the first three seconds of
a video, that will do well.
Really?
And I hate that.
I really, really hate that.
But if it seems to catch people off,
they're like, what?
Media is avoiding swearing.
So if you see someone, you're like,
oh, you know what?
This guy's being more natural.
This guy's going to not, it's not a
presenter, if you like, going.
So this is the detailing product.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I would say one of the things you
mentioned on the Rat Dog podcast was the skip
and how that is incredibly interesting.
As people who are in the business and look at
stats all day, that's crazy.
If you explain that quickly.
Of course.
So I used to start all of my videos with a skip.
And it was a spin on, oh my god,
what was the box's name?
Prince Nasing used to wear leopard print boxing shorts.
And he used to walk up to his competitor and
do this little goose step.
And he used to really throw them off.
But he was so famous for it.
When I was trying to sort of get myself
psyched up for a video, I used to walk up to
the camera, goose step, and then start talking.
But I would always cut the goose step and
just start talking.
Yeah.
And then I can't remember who it was,
but then I should leave that in.
Because that's quite funny.
So I did.
And the comment section was,
what was that?
Yeah.
And it really grabbed attention.
The crazy thing is, I think over two years,
probably, people got a little bit numb to the skip.
So they would see the skip and scroll past.
I then dropped the skip and my video views
went through the roof because I was talking
straight away back.
Whereas it used to be skip, take two steps
and then start talking.
And in those steps, it was the difference of
them sticking around and scrolling past.
So it worked, but that's another thing to remember.
Don't stay with one thing because it will get stagnated.
Is that a word?
Yeah, it will feel stagnant.
I don't wanna try to say that.
And I will do a, I will make a video on why
the skip doesn't exist.
The skip doesn't exist because our sales went
through the roof.
And that is it.
I love the fact that people request stuff and
I love the fact that when people come and
quote videos to me, but it can't feel too
samey all the time because then there's
nothing fresh about it, which is quite hard
when you've only got 15 products to talk about.
But yeah, the skip honestly killed viewer retention.
When we was in the middle of COVID,
I think people would have watched any dribble.
But now it's like you really need to grab
their attention quicker.
It'd be interesting to see if I did it again,
would the views go back up because it's been
quite a long time now.
is quite similar to we see a similar thing on YouTube.
Obviously the videos are longer,
but you still have that
very short period of time at the beginning of
a video
before someone goes to get a mad decision.
52:00 Electric Vehicle Video Performance and Engagement
We saw that the moment we said the word
"electric" everyone's got really gone.
And you know what, fair enough,
the audience, if they don't want to watch it,
they don't want to watch it.
But that was a good TDC video and it is
possibly our worst performing one ever.
Yes, pretty much.
And I love that car and I love that car.
And I thought we gave it a good round fair rep.
Yeah, fair and also quite funny,
there was still comments all like,
"How much should I pay you for this?"
We made fun of how hard it was to charge for.
Half the video.
Do you think they would pay it?
Also, it was a rental car, it's on Churro.
You didn't come and pay us and went,
"Yeah, no, guys, we can't give you a car."
So if you could just go rent one off Churro,
that would be good.
It's ridiculous.
To record now, if you just said the
non-internal combustion engine vehicle,
they would-- Enough people would probably get
caught by it.
We were even wondering if we mentioned
electric, I don't know, 30 seconds or 40
seconds earlier, at that point,
did they go, "Ah, well, I'm here now."
Might as well stick around.
The first five seconds, they have that chance to go.
Nothing for me to see here, I'm not sticking
around, I'm gone.
'Cause they were a good amount,
week to be fair, we've said this before,
we don't pay much mind to comments because
they are such a tiny minority.
They are your most active, sorry,
they are your most vocal audience.
But let's
say you get 2000 comments on the 200,000
video, that is 1% to people.
The rest of the people enjoyed it and left.
They might share those, some of those
feelings, but they didn't care enough to comment.
So why listen to that very tiny minority?
But even then, there were like a good amount
of comments that were, "Hey guys,
love the videos, I'm not watching this one
because it's electric.
See you next week."
I love it.
Easy.
I love it.
But you're not fair enough on just being
like, "Yes, no, I'm not."
As long as it wasn't hate,
I do struggle with the proper,
angry hate comments.
You think fella, just scroll.
I think a lot of people don't know this,
but when you're a channel on YouTube,
when someone comments on your video,
you can click their name and you can see all
of the comments they've left on your channel.
So you can see when they've commented before.
And any time we get a comment like that,
which again, we don't read through comments
with Will and I used to work on Facebook and
Facebook was tough.
Facebook in 2015 to 2020, that's where we
were working on Facebook.
That was rough.
If there's a video of you doing something,
you're getting torn into.
You put your face on Facebook.
You're done, God help you.
You are done.
Simply out of interest, what my name's see.
Let me just see.
I'm sure enough, there is a comment on every
single video going, you guys are hacks.
Oh, you're an idiot if you think this.
Right, okay.
And it's always, nine times out of nine,
you click on their comment, they're leaving a
comment every video.
They're just angry people.
Always angry about something.
If they, actually that's really interesting.
If they were 95% positive and they had,
you'd think, oh, that's got a bit of substance.
Exactly.
But if they are just, they just want to hate
for some reason.
There's one thing they're looking for because
you're not providing it.
They want to hate everything.
Yeah.
You're not doing a video on the FitPunto 1.4,
2003, therefore I hate everything you're doing.
And if you do do it, your stuff is out there.
Yeah, find it.
But if you did do a video of what they want,
they go, you've got it all right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You haven't done that justice,
you idiot.
Yeah, social media world is an interesting one.
So you've, you have done a bit of YouTube stuff.
So yeah, I did.
A little wall gun.
We did two main series.
One was called Dingers of Diamond,
where we bought a 1500 quid mini,
which was in Porsche Mint, wide body thing.
We bought it for 1500 quid with the intention
of putting a couple of grand into it,
really going to town on the cleaning and then
we were gonna give it away.
And we spent, I'd say two days per episode
filming and then obviously it went off Reddit.
So I would say a week of time went into the episodes.
It just never did very well.
No, I'd say I didn't understand YouTube and I
was just doing what I thought felt natural.
But I would say average views on that was
like five, 6,000.
And then we did the E46 CSL Destroyer.
That's what we called it in-house.
Where we basically bought it,
put a load of time and attention into it,
making it what we thought was better than a CSL.
And again, lots of time, lots of money,
lots of energy, didn't do very,
very well.
And when you're from a business perspective,
you've got a channel here that you have to
put 1,000 pound in-ish per episode and it
gets you 5,000 views or there's me and a
tripod in a car park and I can get a million
views, which one are you going to put your
time and attention into?
You know what I mean?
And I think also my persona in short format
and real high energy that I can't keep that
up for YouTube because I've only got so much
monster in the day.
Whereas you can keep the energy really,
really high for 60 seconds.
I think people saw a different persona on
short format to YouTube and they were like,
well, that's not the best.
Yeah.
We're not used to that.
So yeah, I've just sort of knocked it on the head really.
I would love to fire it up again,
but the Americans in our world detailing it,
crush it, crush it.
And I was like, that's a tough one to go up against.
I would back myself in short format for
engagement against anyone, whereas YouTube,
I'm small fish and I'm fine with that.
Yeah.
No, I think you would do well on YouTube though.
Thank you.
I think you have, again, you have the likable
personality to go very far on YouTube,
which is what a lot of people don't,
they look at all the YouTube-y stats are
going, okay, I've got this right,
I've got this right, I've got this right,
but then you don't have the person that
hundreds of thousands of people want to follow.
It's not going to work.
I think you would probably, if you stock it
out for a long enough, which is the hardest
part of doing it, I think you'd probably do quite well.
I think also there is one thing that you have
in droves over not only other people in the
UK, but especially the Americans,
is brutal honestly, which is why part of the
reason why we wanted to do on the TDC
podcast, because it's half-lava,
too.
If you're a clown, we'll get the red nose out for you.
Hence the sign on the door over there.
And I sometimes out of bands by order of TDC.
But that is something that you do a lot on your channels.
And the roast videos.
So I will say this here, because you've led
me to it.
That is a YouTube video that I'm going to
shoot week after next.
We got 12 very good friends with extremely modified cars.
I'm
always very gentle, just in case,
because you don't
know who they are.
And God forbid, I've made a mistake
before.
We're a dugout of car, which I shouldn't have done.
The joke was crap as well.
And it was his granddad's car.
And I felt like I felt so bad for saying it.
So now we're playing it very safe.
I know them.
They have said go mad.
Do what you want.
You can have a dig at me.
You can have a dig at the car.
Don't care.
Because I think that sitting down roasting
cars is relatively low budget and will be funny.
Whereas when you're doing, when you're
modifying cars, as you boys,
you're driving here, there and everywhere.
You might have to do four hours for 10
seconds of footage.
Whereas if I could build my subscribers with
just me sat down talking dribble mega,
I'd love that.
I'd love to have a go at that.
But as anyone that sees that,
just know, and I will have to put a
disclaimer, because some of the notes I've
made are like, you can't say that,
and you can if you know them.
Exactly, they all mate.
Yeah.
We said the same, because at Carthrel,
back at Carthrel, they did roast my ride,
which was a thing that was, was it once every
month maybe?
Yeah.
Where it was Alex and the guys would sit down
and get people they would send in cars and
they would do it.
But Will and I always used to say,
I'd love that, because there's so many pieces
of shit out there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see my car.
Yeah, I've seen it and I wish I'd never seen it.
Yeah.
We always say there's a, to the like,
respect all builds crowd.
It's like, I can respect it.
Yeah.
I can understand why you did it.
I haven't got to like it, but I hate it.
(laughing)
And I really hate this.
I don't know where I sit on that respect all
builds, because half of me is,
like I love all my customers.
But you should also, if I have to respect
your build, maybe you should respect my opinion.
(laughing)
That's exactly what we've always said.
Is that if you're, if you're doing anything
to your car, if you're putting the time in to
do even wash it, you're part of the club.
Yeah.
You're a car person.
Yeah.
I'm shoulder to shoulder you with you on that.
But if you put those horrible stretch tires
on there with weak fitment, I want to call
you a clown.
Yeah.
(laughing)
And in a few years, you're going to look back
at it and go, "Yeah, I was."
I look back on photos of my MX-5,
days, what idiot my 106?
What idiot let me mirror a spanner?
What a clown I was, but you learn over time.
I've got to tell you, funny story.
So driving home from work and I saw this
Vauxhall insignia, not a bad car.
And I'm looking in
the rear view mirror and I'm thinking,
"What is up with that?"
It looked like a standard car,
but there was something going on in the grill
before I couldn't work it out 'cause I'm
bouncing down the road in that.
I'm thinking, he's got blue fog horn,
like the hell of horns, like the Subaru was.
No, not even that, but just,
you know, like where the noise comes from in
a horn that's just behind the grill,
they were blue.
I was like, "Who on earth would paint them blue?"
Whatever.
He then decides to overtake me,
and I think, in fella, this is not the road
to overtake on.
It's a tool, it's a bypass, but it's quite a blind one.
And then as he come up alongside me,
I realized that he had blue window flexors,
blue alloy wheels, blue calipers,
blue interior, and then as it went past me,
it said, "Respect all bills and a fault."
No, 'cause you're a twat.
You are, I'm gonna, I'm sorry,
I could get real potty mouth of it.
On what planet?
You're doing blue accents on a silver,
I just thought, "You are a silver car."
Silver car, silver car.
I put it black in my head.
On what planet?
It was that bruise, it even worse,
but it just hated everything about this car.
And then it said it, "Respect all,"
and I thought, "No, I'm not."
I would not buy you a pint if you come up.
We said it with Tony that a well-built car
has nothing to do with money.
There is enough, there is enough internet and
time, and if you have access to the internet
and you have access to the keys for your car,
you can build something cool with nearly nothing.
We've actually talked, we're gonna do a video
semi soon that's fair either a grand or two grand.
Taking a completely stock car,
I'm building in something that's actually
good, driving and hopefully looking,
but there's a lot of people that don't want
to put the time into that, but they then want
the respect for not putting the time in,
which is that doesn't run.
No, I think there's so much value in,
depending on the car obviously,
20 mil lowering, the bigger the daddy spec of
your car or the next version up.
So several of them are saying you get an A5,
you put the SQ5 wheels on it,
that's it, 20 mil drop, little tinted window,
just, that's lovely, and that's relatively
inexpensive, 'cause presumably you've sold
your wheels for 500 quid, you've bought them
off marketplace for a grand,
lowering springs
and some time, tinted windows.
Cool thing, dumb, just, that'll do,
but some of the contraptions you come with.
Blue wheels, oh, I'm so angry at him.
But yeah, there's this weird,
there's this weird belief that to be,
to be interesting or to be cool,
you have to be different, which is not the
case at all.
There is a way of not necessarily conforming
to the, to the style, but still looking,
having, having your own take on it.
You don't need to put the entire team you
catalogue on to be seen as, oh,
you're killing the game, bro.
Don't, just, witness is why you should bring
that bully in.
Hey, we are.
Have you listened to the CDC podcast?
Too fair, that's, obviously we saw some of
your content to do with the doing that shows.
Yeah.
And obviously you get people that are going
to say, oh, you can't do that.
The show, but that is exactly what we've done.
Like before TVC, every time we go to a show,
you go and see a car that's parked up,
probably with the bonnet up,
with lights all over it.
And it just looks awful.
It's got a lego brick as well.
Yeah.
You, I was going to say, I was going to say
before you say anything more,
we're all thinking of a Focus ST.
Yeah.
We don't need to say it, but we're all
thinking of them up to us today.
Lego brick.
I want to do a ST because five great sound.
You speak relatively inexpensive.
I've never seen one coilovers,
good set of wheels, half cage and bucket seats.
It is, it is exceptionally rare.
Yeah.
Because if you've, I've had two STs,
three STs and two RS's
of the Mark II Gen.
It's made easier to make a Mark II and
RS look good because it's got arches and all that stuff.
And actually the RS people, I think it's
because the value is higher.
Yeah.
So naturally, there are, there are sort of
less people willing to really mess them up.
But God, they still do.
It's the, the Ford thing is,
right, I got a fast forward.
Who tuned it?
It was Revo, it was Mountune,
it was whoever, and they go,
right, I am going to plaster that all up the
side of the car.
Yeah.
It'll be on the green screen for,
it'll be tattooed on my arm.
It'll be absolutely everything.
It's a lifestyle, isn't it?
Yeah, it really got, oh, ball patrol up the
side of it.
There's that and it's, there is,
I cut, there's a crash, man,
the cute one.
Yeah.
I should laugh.
I don't know.
Maybe this person listens to the podcast,
but every time I see that it,
it's not, it's a saddle.
(laughs) Did I vote?
The thing is, I almost like that because it's
almost like a donk in America.
Like, you know, they have the,
you know, the Cheerios.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Up the side.
Like, that's, that's cool, but it is,
it's when it's the child friendly liveries
are not allowed.
The digital, was it the digital camo,
but they're like the claw marks up the side?
Come on now.
No.
I feel like the cogs.
I feel like the cogs.
It feels like a cod lobby.
Yeah.
It's like a game of tag.
It's sort of thing.
It's a bit, 12 year old.
It's a fourser.
Jaguars can have some steak for a second.
If you have a new gen Jaguar with a pounce in
Jaguar, tag it off.
Not allowed anymore.
I don't know what it is.
I think off the market.
Is that P.E.A.A?
Okay.
I think so.
You can't have anything.
On the front.
You can't have anything protruding.
The growler?
The growler?
The growler?
What's your color?
It's got a name.
A leaper.
A leaper.
I like growler.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think because the Statue of it's.
Okay.
The spirit of experience.
Thank you.
itself down.
Yeah.
That's why it's safe.
Yeah.
Whereas now I don't think you're allowed to
have anything protruding bodywork.
Oh, interesting.
So that was obviously a time in of old XJ.
I want to say the 90s where that wasn't a thing.
And now it is a thing.
So if you put one of these on a new gen
Jaguar, take it off.
I think it should be inserted into it.
Oh, look at it.
Oh, I'm so pants.
Nice.
But anyway, you know, I agree on that.
That's that's that's a no go.
We might have to do a joint roast at some
point, but I'll do like that.
Oh, 40 flakes.
40 flakes.
But some, I'm going to double down now.
Neon's a cold.
Yeah.
Give me some.
I love it.
Well, we were talking because you found the
isomy video on the Mercilago.
Yes.
And he has, it's not really Neon's,
but he's got LEDs and bits all over it.
That is a no go.
But if you do, if you commit to the full bit
with the full Neon's also, it's 2025.
There's now the LED like the ones that flow
from color to color.
Those are cool.
12 by 1 Neon.
Let's go.
Yeah, I love it.
Car throttle.
We did a, it was literally a copy of Monkey
London's video, but we'd already filmed it.
Just, we filmed the video picking Christmas
lights on the car.
And then the day after we'd filmed it,
Monkey London put his video out of putting
the Christmas lights on the car.
We were like, God damn it, we've just done this.
We have to put the video out anyway.
But we put, I put Neon's on the MX-5 and I
was like, I like this.
I like it.
I think there's, again, it's that thing where
you can overdo it.
Yeah.
Where it's, there are lights everywhere that
this, the video, there's a video of a
Mercilago again, but it's got LEDs everywhere.
You put the door up, there's LEDs.
There's any other shot.
It's when people highlight things that don't
need to be highlighted.
Like there are two fans at the back of a
Mercilago that are covered by a mesh grill
for a reason.
No one wants to look at the back of a plastic fan.
And in this car, it's lit up green and you
can just see a fan.
It's like, you know, it's not like it's your
amazing exhaust manifold or something.
It's like, I'll look at my fans,
intercooler
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lights.
Where, intercooler, I always want those.
Depends on your intercooler.
I said this to Will.
This is back when we were at CarPlay.
After all that, I was making memes and memes
were funnier is that I wanted to do,
I wanted to paint my intercooler black on my
next five and then use glow in the dark paint
to paint the word suck on it because that was funny.
And then have a black light in front of it.
So I could turn it on and only at night,
it would just glow the word up.
But I thought that would be funny.
And then I remember thinking about that like
six months ago and just going,
what's wrong
with you?
Yeah.
Yeah, the police are there.
So I'm forcing that shit.
Yeah.
It's like that.
Birds are a lollipop in the Astro.
Yeah.
Fords are real guilty of that.
I have some chrome wheels.
You know what, car to car.
I love them.
And there is any 46 M3 on Chrome 18 rays all
round that I adore.
And I would still love to do it.
I think it's location based.
Yeah.
I think it's bad.
Americans here, I think you are it's,
it's not right.
You might get away with it depending on who
you are, where you are, the weather,
the setting.
We saw that SL, the Brabas SLR.
Incredible.
On some chrome Brabas wheels.
Think blue control.
And it's that was that without car.
See, I think I know the SL you're talking about actually.
I think it's fitment dependent.
Yes.
And you got it right.
Yeah.
I'd say the UK equivalent is ceramic polished.
This is close.
Yeah.
Really.
I think if you've got the fitment to back it,
I'm like, yeah.
but if it's standard ride height with some
chunky side profiles.
That's it.
That car.
Look at that.
You can't tell me that's not good for chrome wheels.
Horny.
If you could get away with, basically if the
wheel would look good in
any silver or a matte on a silver.
Yeah, then it's okay.
You could probably get away with the chrome.
But again, yeah, for me, I don't know what it is.
I think it might be a weather thing for me.
Yeah.
I feel like you need chrome wheels in a
climate where it's just sunny all the time.
Yeah.
That photo that we just put up was in California.
Yeah, but it's a slough.
It's not a game.
If Fostman is trying to, you know,
clean it, the wall's cool, but it's not great.
Yeah.
I'd only have them as well if I had carbon
ceramic brakes because you, so a good sponsor
of mine, Norm, he had polished,
I can't remember what wheels they were now,
what wheels I believe.
And every day he had to clean the wheels.
Yeah.
Like that's getting old quick.
Yeah.
That's getting old.
Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't do that because
I'm bad about car washing cars anyway.
Yeah.
So I would, it would get two weeks in and
they'd look across there and go,
well, that's what they look like forever now.
Wheels is my worst thing actually in cleaning a car.
Well, what the number one thing is trying to
do it regularly enough.
That's why I like something that is quick,
but wheels.
I love, I love the way wheels look,
but it's the love wheels.
I'm not the one to, I'm not taking the wheel off.
I ain't taking it off and doing the inside
and doing all this stuff.
I probably should, but I can't do that.
I want to throw a wheel cleaner at it.
Yeah.
That's a wheel.
You were, Will was the first person to teach
me about like acidic wheel and like a
bleeding wheel cleaner.
And I remember that my day, my life was changed.
I was thinking, hold on, 'cause I was using
fairy liquid in a bucket until then.
I'll admit that.
I remember Will sharing to me.
And I was like, you don't even need to touch them.
You just spray it and spray it with water.
Incredible.
Best product in the world.
I love a wheel cleaner.
A good one.
Also, maybe it's the same for you.
I now like the smell.
Oh no.
The smell, 'cause it now feels to me like
things are happening and progress is happening.
I'm like, okay, cool.
If I spray one and it doesn't smell,
I'm like, man, gonna work.
Yeah.
But where is my girlfriend?
We'll go like, I was like, smell and like run off.
I'm like,
1:12:39 Non-Social Media Build Discussion
no, we're just cleaning wheels.
Smells like clean wheels.
Smells like shine.
You obviously mentioned that when you said
about carbon fiber being good for like social
media, I was gonna ask a question about like,
what would be your non social media build?
Do you mind talking about that or do you?
So one thing that I learned earlier on in the
brand was when I joined the brand,
I had the one two trophy and I was nearing
30, very, very overweight.
And it was a personal decision to go,
I don't want to be in this car anymore.
And obviously kids, Clio's, so I bought a,
it was a core project in my mind.
I bought the X358, XJ, 2.7 diesel,
gangster, rear screens, 20 inch BBS factory
wheels, all blacked out everything.
And I thought, I bought it cheap like 2,800
pound high mileage, but the engine was strong
with the intention of, look at that,
we've talked about them multiple times today,
oh great.
Yes, love it.
With the intention of, the paint was dog,
the interior was hanging, I thought there's
detailing content to have out of this,
we can muck about with the factory air ride,
we can pull the fitment out a little bit,
that's a core gangster whip,
no one cares, nobody cares about XJs on the internet.
So the one I've got now is purely for me,
because I've got social media friendly cars,
but that, times, you either get them or you
don't, you've either driven one or you
haven't, that is the answer.
It's the best thing for five grand ever,
apart from Clio 1.8 too.
Of course.
And it missed, I missed by a mile on social
media, you just watched the engagement,
no one cared, no one cared, no one cared,
got the 46th bang through the roof.
So I think, everyone I see one of these on
the road, I'm reminded how good looking that is.
That's the following generation,
which is probably a better one,
that's what I've got now, not as good.
It's pretty, nowhere near, much better car,
don't I say.
But just as you say, the road presence,
that can rival a Rolls-Royce.
And it's a fraction.
It's a special one, I see, the X308 is the
previous gen, right?
Yes, the X308 is the firm numbers.
A 308 XTR from the front is one of the most
intimidating things.
But one of these from the rear,
the way they sit on the road is so good.
Love a crack, Taloy.
Love.
But only 1.7 ton.
To the best of my knowledge.
As they're all aluminium.
Great on fuel.
Could you fit those XK on wheels?
Yeah, the BBS Parisis.
The Parisis, you probably could put Parisis
on a note.
So we've got the XFR, which you saw out there.
That's a more like Ford.
There is it, a bit harder.
Yeah, but also like the wheels,
they don't have the same fitment,
the bolt pattern is different basically to
the older jags.
First thing I thought of with that jag was I
want the, on the XKRs at these BBS Paris five
smoke wheels split, they look,
I love them.
Yeah, 'cause they're huge, they're like a 10
j, 10 and a half jag to rear.
Pull them up.
This is basically, you're getting a small
insight to what this entire unit is all day.
Can you get Paris wheels on the XKRs?
Yeah, watch this, look at this.
But we researched it and obviously found out
different bolt pattern, which is not the end
of the world.
Different PCDs.
Right, not really gonna work properly,
but Edwin did a render, which I don't think
we have anymore.
I don't think, if I do a will overlay of a
render like a facelift XFR and on.
Yeah, it looked mental.
If I was a billionaire, possibly the first
thing I do is get that belt.
(laughs) It's Jaguar, I need to commission your car.
Forget the Mercilago, let's get an XFR in
here and some custom BBS Paris wheels.
Yeah, rims car made to make,
come on, let's go.
I think Jags, it's the, with Jags,
you either like them, like we've just spoken
about them, or you think it's an old man car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think the majority are still in the,
they see that and go from car or 85 year old
man drives it.
I think, I don't know what age you chaps are.
I remember Jag, who was from Locks Dock,
who was making barrels.
And that's much.
Being gangster.
Yeah.
Whereas the generation beneath,
didn't watch those films.
No.
And they just see old men driving them,
pretending they're gangsters.
And he's like, oh, I get it,
I really get it from your perspective.
I just think they're so cool.
And now, 'cause of the Euro 16.
Dirty cheap.
Yeah, dirty cheap.
And Bentayga, sorry, not Bentayga,
oh my God, not Bentayga.
Continental, a crap one, 12 grand.
Yeah.
It's not comfortable.
And I would argue that people would take that
more seriously.
'Cause if you pull up in a continent,
you look like something that you shouldn't be doing.
Yeah.
You see the jag, people are like,
oh, it's got a jag.
Yeah.
That's half the price of that.
Bentley over there.
Yeah.
It's just better.
What a sophisticated gentleman.
He's driving.
On those Paris wheels too, very nice.
They shouldn't be on that one.
Tell me, Chad, what PCD you're running?
Do they do long wheelbase ones?
I think all of the R's are long wheelbase.
I love seeing any car that has a long wheelbase.
Yes.
I don't need that, but I want that.
Supercharged long wheelbase.
I think you can get on the only on the V8s.
I can get big boys.
That's the only thing I would say,
well, from an economy point of view,
probably a diesel's
better, but give me a V8 one of those.
This is the
problem that I'm having with the ground.
The problem that I've got with the XJ I've
bought is it's a three liter V6 petrol supercharged.
Yeah.
And it's not slow, but it's not quick,
and it's not very good on fuel.
So my argument is I either have the diesel
for maximum, I don't need to go to the petrol
station for weeks, or have the big boys
supercharged V8 one.
Yeah.
'Cause I'm either going fast,
or I want it to be good on fuel.
That V6 one that I've got, it's just a bit
nothingness in the middle, and I think I'm
wrong, it's better on fueling the M2,
but I still have to go to the fuel station
twice a week, whereas I have to go three
times a week in the M2.
I want to go once a week.
Yeah.
Because I'm not using that thing for speed.
Yeah, that's, that is the one that I've got,
I believe.
Not that one, I would say.
Yeah, but the same shape like that.
The three five on.
Yeah, but I think it got facelifted the year
after, and the prices are still quite strong on them.
I also said, I don't tell Rory,
nobody tell Rory I said this because he owns
one, but I do find them, I think they're
really attractive cars.
I think they are good like this.
Yeah, that, Jen.
I just think they're, it's mainly when I see
one in the series, 'cause in series they
still put Prime Ministers and whatever's in
them, every time I see them on screen,
I'm like, I'm like that.
Jen was born and used it in the,
I think it was, kind of wish.
I think Skyfall had it.
Skyfall, thank you very much.
When the train comes through the ceiling and
then they get in one and they twat a curb,
because it power slides out and somehow it
doesn't buckle the wheel, which is incredible.
And he just now's out of the road,
and I was like, that is gangster.
It's something to be, it's one of the few
things that make you proud to be British.
Yeah, even though it's Indian.
(all laughing)
The British engine though, surely.
It's been doing quite a good bit of American
car stuff recently.
Is it the Americans, one of the first things
the Americans will make fun of us for?
They'll be like, there's broken jags,
dude, you can't make fun of us,
you gotta put shitty jags.
No, man, they're cool.
I get it, I get the reliability thing.
They can't even say the word.
(all laughing) But that is a little bit.
Also, that is a little bit.
Supercharged Jack.
If anything, an American, to be fair,
we saw a few in Monterey.
Yeah, quite a few.
I saw more than I was expecting,
obviously, 'cause it's the US.
No, they're all rocking around in a V8 something.
Yeah, it was at five litre NA they have.
It's five litre NA on all the Range Rovers
and the Supercharged.
Like, we spoke to someone who had the,
what was it, an L-405, the newer Range Rover.
And if you see one here, it's diesel.
It's a diesel.
Yeah.
And this Supercharged.
Yeah, I think they said it.
We tell them about diesel, they're like,
what?
Why don't I always buy one of those?
Where do you
1:20:25 Fast SUVs and SVR Models
boys sit on fast SUVs?
I think there is a, there is a baseline speed
at what a SUV should be.
Okay.
And, but I think an eight-shit,
fast SUVs are necessary.
I think they are dumb and there's no reason
for them, but I absolutely love them when they exist.
Bear, I'm a bit of a crossroads with it
because I wanted the XYM just to say it was an X5M.
Yeah.
It's a nothingness reason.
It's a stupid, arrogant justification.
Little dick swinging.
Yeah, exactly.
I like the, I can't, I've lost track a little bit.
with the rain driving out, but they do,
I want to say it's an SV autobiography.
Yeah.
And it's a big boy.
It's a big boy engine.
But with the big engine.
But it's meant for wafting.
Yeah.
Not driving fast, not cornering fast.
And I struggle with the SVR because they all
love to tell you that it will keep up with
the mini GP round of circuit and I'm like,
don't care.
Yeah.
'Cause it's not for that.
Yeah.
If I want to go fast, I'd probably rate it a
bit of the G.P.
It also would be very fun.
Yeah.
And I just, yes.
That for me is the exact thing with the rain drivers.
If you show me an SVR, congratulations.
Please enjoy your drive around the rig around Bradford.
Yeah.
The Autobiography SV, which is essentially
the same engine.
That's great.
Yeah.
That's cool.
It's allowed in there.
You can also tell normally that there's a big
difference in who buys the SVR.
Just look at the spec of an SVR.
Yeah.
Bright blue.
Yeah.
I have quite a lot of seats and it will be
the worst possible spec.
Then you get one of those and it might have
the five liters supercharged,
but it will be delightfully spec'd.
Was this recent Taken Party X in 48,000 pound?
'Cause I was about to inquire on this car.
Okay, let's have a look.
I don't even hear the website,
it was on their Instagram.
It's sold, but it's POA on there,
let's have a look.
I really like this, this generation.
They took an SV.
Sorry, there's just the other side of it for.
Yeah.
They are two different cars.
All I typed in was Range Rover SVR.
I didn't search for like a bad one.
That's just what comes up when you search for the basis.
The one you were on before, this I believe,
only a couple of months ago,
they took in SV autobiography,
part exchange presumably, and it went up for
48 grand, and I was, it was a 19 plate on low
miles, and I was like, that is a cool thing.
And we were looking to buy Natalie a new car
for sort of 40 to 60 grand, and I was like,
that is King of the Road.
So early to Natalie, she didn't love it
'cause it was petrol, but I was like,
no, no, it's cool enough.
And I would love to buy a car from Tom
Hartley, just to say, yeah, honestly,
he could charge me for five grand,
just to say I picked you up.
Anyway, saw Lenny Howlett of Urban,
Goodwood Festival, and I went,
I'm gonna go and have a look at this.
And he went, do an insurance quote 'cause of that.
Yeah.
'Cause he said, older stuff you're okay with,
newer stuff you're okay.
He said, that is peak, you're getting it nicked.
Do an insurance quote, did, 9,000 pounds.
And I was like, I'm not buying that car
'cause that bill doesn't go down every year.
And so that's gonna stay where it is,
if not get worse.
And I was gutted 'cause I was like,
the money's right, the person's right,
I want it, I want it, I want it.
I'd even swallow the MPG 'cause Natalie
doesn't do a lot of miles, but nine grand a year.
And that price, I'd actually like it to get stolen.
Give me some value.
Let me have it for a couple months and then
off it goes.
Wake up in the morning, thank you.
Just leave it outside, I've locked,
get it on the dash, get your heart.
Let's take it.
Also, it would never get stolen,
never get stolen.
Yeah, Ranger was due of that reputation.
Even mine, which is obviously an older one,
but because it's one of those,
it's like a keyless, it doesn't have a
keyless entry, but it's a keyless start.
It sure is going, well, hang on,
someone's nicking out and I go,
no one's nicking the four grand.
No one's stealing mad car.
I hope they won't steal that car.
1:24:03 Range Rover L32 Offer
It's probably not outside anymore.
No, it's gone.
If anyone has, what is your shape,
Range Rover called?
L32.
If anyone has an L32 to Range Rover in the
4.4 V8 diesel, with I would like it in black
with black leather, and you want to sell it
to me for less than 10, and it's worth the
money you're asking, please email me,
because I want to sell my Jag,
because of the lack of fuel economy,
and I want to get that Range Rover,
car,
and I want to buy
one.
Yeah.
You put them in L32, you put them in every
other car on Earth.
I reckon nine times out of 10,
they say that car's the best one.
Very nice.
'Cause it's the biggest, softest,
nicest, briciest, just perfect thing.
It doesn't offend anyone.
No, it's classless, but at the same time,
high class, it's incredible.
Yeah, that is such an important thing for a
car to do.
The class, like the Golf does it extremely
well, Tesla does it extremely well.
And that, it's not old money,
it's not new money, it's just,
oh, that's cool.
How hard for a car to do.
Yeah, but then at the same time,
anyone that does know a little bit goes,
I wouldn't have one of those,
mate, you're gonna spend all the time with
the repair shop.
But meanwhile, how many miles have you done now?
I'm 20,000 miles deep in that car,
I mean, about a ball joint, not even a year.
And yeah, I mean, it's not left me broken down yet.
We shouldn't have said that correctly.
Shouldn't have said that correctly.
Can't wait for my long evening of my side,
Ross, across everything, just before you said that.
But I would recommend one, I definitely would.
V8 Volt, I would have a look at it.
Yeah, cool.
Their cars are more expensive,
but they have some immaculate,
respect.
Okay, cool.
The Queen's one sold, that wasn't a,
that was a super charge, right?
So the Queen had a Range Rover.
Oh, okay.
So we saw this on Silverstone auctions,
now iconic auctioneers, I think it is.
Yep.
Queen's Range Rover, pictures of her getting
in and out of it, she drove it blah,
blah, blah.
Green, entry green or
something like that, I don't know.
156,000 miles.
120,000
miles.
120,000 miles.
I couldn't believe that, I thought,
well, she's going.
Yeah.
Does she have a community?
Yeah, yeah.
Was she going and getting off out of,
was she just up and down?
Yeah, pound now.
Scotland is doing that.
Balmoral's awfully far away.
Yeah, yeah.
Balmoral's a Windsor every day.
Yeah.
But I think the estimate, I want to say it
was like 65 to 70 K, which bearing mind,
a Supercharger Range Rover like that is
probably worth about, I don't know,
what, three, four grand?
Three, four pounds?
Because most people would be scared stiff,
and the idea of buying a cheap home might,
height-ish mile.
Supercharger Range Rover, that sold for 175,000.
175 grand.
Sorry, just to see, can you see what's on the bonnet?
Who's gonna pull her out of that now?
Exactly.
They're not getting pinched.
No, it's not a prowler or a short growler,
but what's that dog?
Yeah, that is a dog.
I actually, you know what, now I've seen that.
I can actually tell that story.
Now, I was probably 18 or 19.
Oh, he's seen the Queen's growler.
I have seen it.
I have seen it.
I saw the Queen's growler in slough.
(laughing)
Now, I'm sure Peter Stringfellow had
something to do in that place.
Obviously, slough is not far from Windsor,
where a Windsor castle is.
I used to live in slough, and there was a big
roundabout that used to have a big Honda logo
on it that some people might know,
and I was at the lights at this roundabout.
I looked to my right, green Range Rover.
I actually didn't think much of Range Rover's
back then, and I looked to my right,
and all I could see was the bonnet massive,
I was in my fiesta, and I saw this thing on the bonnet.
I was like, what an idiot.
'Cause you saw all sorts of that on the bonnet.
I thought, that's horrible.
Which is a statue of a dog for those of you
who can't see.
You put that on your Range Rover.
And I looked at the driver, and the driver was gloves.
It wasn't easy.
And I looked in the back, and she said,
(laughs)
No.
I was just saying, I was at heart failure.
I was like, she's like, that's the queen.
Going down euros, needed a spare bag.
This one's back left, starting to go.
1:28:11 Queen's Range Rover Auction
Now I've seen that.
I am 100% sure that could, unless there may be multiple.
I don't have that saying, but also,
Vogue C.
She could have done better.
It's not a Westminster is it.
She just saw a special edition and thought
that's the one I want.
A little did she know that two things I
wanted to talk about Royal cars,
175,000 pounds.
Yes, a lot.
It's a lot of money.
But if I'm in Arab and I have got unlimited
money, I'll give you a million quid for the Coincol car.
In the same breath, Diana's RS Turbo,
I thought that was going to be 100 million pound thing.
Just because somebody got, I want that and I
don't need to worry about money.
And I remember it said for like 700,000,
I think, too cheap, man.
But these reserves higher because there are
people out there with eye water and money.
I'm talking to you RM Sotheby's or whoever
auctioned it, Silverstone, sorry.
That is arguably the most important thing in
a petrol heads world to do with the royal family.
175 is dirty, dirty cheap.
(laughs) Triada.
Well, funny thing is I, so one of my
obsessions is the Brunei royal family.
And they bought, the sums has never
discussed, but they bought one of the
original Batmobile's from the movie.
And they also bought basically every
succeeding Formula One car, Ferrari Formula
One car from the '80s '90s that won a race,
as in the race winning one would go to Brunei.
And the amount of money that was apparently
exchanged for them was obscene.
Also the, so the RX7 from Tokyo Drift like an
actual one sold for what, $9,800,
by a million dollars it was basically.
And then that goes for sale,
that is a bargain.
You'd think some rich pervert would just want
to sniff the seat.
(laughing)
I've got the Queen's Growler in there.
I beg your pardon.
I've just got the Queen's Growler for a
bargain price of one, seven,
five.
Oh, I'd say you've got YouTube title already,
you've got the YouTube channel going.
Oh, we should have bought it.
It cost.
We just had this in.
We just had this in all the 70 grand.
Liquidated everything here and then taken out
the biggest loan to get the Queen's Ranger
over and then turbo it.
I really want to see what condition it's in.
I just want to see if she took care of her car.
Well, no, the rear bumper was hanging off.
Was it?
Because one of my friends went and saw it in
real life and apparently the rear corner,
yeah, it was, maybe the clips had just come
undone or something, we're not sure,
but yeah, it wasn't immaculate,
but it's 10 hundred and it's ready to go.
I want to know, looked after it,
I want to know everything about it.
I want to know, was it just sent to like a
quick fit or did Land Rover do it or?
I want to know if the Queen--
Did they charge her?
Was the Queen ever at the side of the road
with a JLR warning bomb going off in the background?
Was it?
Yeah.
Quins in the back.
Yeah, it's scraping along the floor.
On the Queen's flipping through a handbook in
the glove compartment going,
"It says here that I must have just reset the procedure."
Yeah, just go into extended mode.
It should refill.
Entrexes, it's easy.
I've put it in mallet mode, no,
it won't go anywhere.
It's stuck.
That's crazy, we should have bought that really.
Ultimate tote, also ultimate thing is to buy
that just use it.
Yeah.
The guy with the Rolls Royce Tokar,
that's, there you go, that, that,
better purchase.
You're right, there is a chance as well.
If you pulled up to Buckhouse on the right
day with the oldest security guard,
he'd recognize it and just open the door.
And then you're in.
Wear a little tea towel in your head.
Some sunglasses.
Yeah, you used to have the, the,
what's going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Charles would look out the window.
Hang on a minute.
Money.
I'm about to lose my seat.
She's back.
Where's the photo?
There was another photo in here somewhere.
Well, of her in it.
Of her.
I actually can't believe I've seen this car up close.
I should have had a closer inspection.
When we got, that's not the coin.
That feels far-fetched at photo.
I think they could have had a better one.
Yeah, it's got to be a better photo.
It's like when you buy, when you see
ex-police cars for sale, then you've got the
photo of the police car in active duty.
Yeah.
But it's always from too far away.
That's just a paparazzi photo.
You know when people like sign memorabilia
from like a footballer and they go,
"Oh, here it is, here's a picture of the football."
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, hold on, there's no picture of him signing it.
It's got a picture of him.
Yeah, I've always wondered that.
Oh, anything.
Yeah, that's him.
I was just going over it.
Yeah.
It was just this, but it was just a foam mug
shot of the Queen.
Yeah, that's the Queen.
Yeah, that's it.
It's Queen, honestly.
Yeah, that's what gave the R.S.
Turbo value for me is there is a picture of
her getting out of it with the plate looking mega.
And ordinarily, this is the worst part about
buying famous cars.
And we had this experience firsthand,
the Neo brothers who we bought the solve from.
For a good year, 18 months after it,
it was, "Oh, that's a Neo brothers.
"Car."
And I'm like, "Nah, it's ours."
Because we bought it.
And you have that if you buy a modified car
that was quite popular once upon a time,
it's always the previous owner's version.
Whereas if someone goes, "Was that the Queen's?"
Fuck yeah, it was.
Yeah, of course that.
Nah, nah, it's just mine.
Yeah.
Is that Trev's Land Rover?
Is that Gary's Land Rover?
That, but with a max power bill on it,
some sapphons were scents.
We have talked about, we have talked about a
joke spoof YouTube title at some point,
if TDC ever gets to whistling these all spec,
which is, we bought sentimental cars and
modified them, or we bought sentimental cars
and took them bang erasing.
Which is the most horrible idea,
but doing that, like taking a car that is
irreplaceable and going, "Yeah,
I got the maxed and split is on the way,
I've got a wide on shit, got a pandem kit coming."
That was whistling diesel.
New find for me.
I don't know how I missed him.
Really?
But I saw a saw of the G-Wagon B and
off-loaded, just balls out.
Driving off it, yeah.
Cool.
And then I watched the, I walked with my
boys, 'cause my boys love YouTube and the
stuff they watch, I don't wanna watch,
and the stuff I watch, they don't wanna
watch, but we found whistling diesel.
Anyway, and watched the Ferrari one,
I wanna say it's the F8.
Yeah, where it just things down.
Bones down, yes.
Yeah.
Watched that, loved it, I was like,
"That is such a cool thing that you've got
that much money, it was f*ck you money."
Yeah.
But then I watched the R32 GTR.
Yeah.
And I was gutted, and I tell you for why,
because that is a lot of people's dream car.
And you can't buy them anymore,
you can buy G-Wagons, you can buy that for a,
and I was a little bit like,
"Oh, I don't know where that sits with me."
Now I know I sound old and boring and
miserable when, and he has got enough money,
can do whatever he wants, but I was a bit
like, I don't even care about Japanese cars,
like in the slightest, but that one I was
like, "Oh, I wish you didn't,
I wish you'd done it to the new GTR."
Yeah.
'Cause you can go buy another one of them.
But it's funny 'cause that's why he's so
successful in how divisive he is,
because the people who get upset about the
Ferrari who were like a young supercar
enjoyer would go, "Who cares about Arnold Nissan,
man?
You were destroying a Ferrari last week,
that was real pedigree, money or whatever you wanna say."
But they would go, "I don't care."
The one that he did get a lot of stick for
was the Model T.
He ruined a Model T.
I'm not saying that, I'll watch that with the boys.
I think it's very short 'cause he didn't last
very long, but a lot of people were literally
like, "Yeah, okay, fine, but that's just an
old, like, of course you were gonna break it,
it's like being an old man up."
Yeah, yeah.
Come on, man.
It's a rig.
It just beat some to death.
You know what we knew that was gonna happen.
Nah, he just knew it was gonna happen.
But it's an interesting niche that no one's
ever done before.
And supposedly, hold on, right now I'm gonna
get a quick check.
He said, 10 million, he would be
buying a Bugatti Veyron.
Or he just said Bugatti.
Bugatti, so he could buy any of you want to.
He's at 9.99 still.
That was another note, sorry,
this was from the M2 man earlier.
I only just remember this point,
you had some Bugatti shoes on.
Oh, I didn't see that.
Did I forget?
Oh, I didn't see
1:36:03 Whistling Diesel and Car Durability Tests
that.
The one thing I've just realized,
as I said it out loud, is had he not of
smashed up those GTOs, we might not have mentioned.
You mentioned him and Fab, you brought him in
conversation, but it did make me realize who
he is, so it did work.
Of course, yeah, sorry, I've just literally
just worked that out in my head,
sorry.
Yeah, that's his entire thing.
It's weird, he's kind of dropped on to doing
kind of weird stuff recently that's not as,
I think maybe, I don't know,
maybe the views to investment ratio is
changing, but I think especially that G-Wagon
one is, if you haven't watched,
he's, he durability tests them,
but by doing dumb stuff.
Was that the one that you watched where he
jumped it on the sand dunes?
Yeah.
That to me is the perfect advert for a G-Wagon ever.
I started the video thinking,
"Ha, stupid dumb thing, I don't care."
And came up the other side going,
"That is an incredible G-Wagon."
very cool thing.
And I think you drove it around for another
few weeks after just, just beating it around.
And how often do content creators make better
adverts for cars than the OEMs?
Because the Skoda Yeti, helicopters are on the roof.
The Skoda are never doing that.
And that, you're right, that gave,
I was like, "Jesus Christ, these G-Wagons are amazing."
And the Ferrari, fair play to it.
That took a beating as it broke down.
And obviously top gear of yesterday year,
they always used to say, that when we're the
three sub 10 grand supercars they bought,
and they just didn't work.
You've fast forward another 30 years.
These event doors and hurricanes are gonna be
plugging along.
Like, it is a great testament to what
supercars are now capable of.
They're not the fragile things they were once
upon a time.
They're pretty golfs, like, in a reality.
Which I guess is what you were talking about
it when you watched the old top gear,
and they were saying, "Was it the messy longer?"
They were saying that it was like,
it just feels very Volkswagen.
Yeah, they were saying that,
and the Gallardo as well, they were saying
the Gallardo, it just looks boring.
They were saying, I can't remember what
Clarkson exactly said, but he said,
"Not at a picnic.
"You want the Italians to do the food,
"and the Germans to make the hamper."
And he said, "In this case, "the Germans have
made us a food."
But now, you look at a Gallardo and go,
"That looks incredible."
Unbelievable.
What was the previous generation?
The Diablo.
Diablo was prior to the most scenario.
So I get it, it's not as wild as that,
but it has aged very well.
And also, even to drive, felt strong in a
solid car that you could use every day,
but it didn't feel like I was in a golf.
No, I felt like I was in a very special thing.
Whereas I think if you drive a hurricane,
you'd have a different, you'd have a,
actually, this is very easy to drive and
everything just works and all these buttons
work and there's no, the pedals are in the
right place, the steering wheels are in the right place.
Whereas in both the Gallardo and the
Mercilago, nothing was like that.
Is there any super car you've ever,
like, I like that super car?
Or you mainly like a, Ferrari and AMG.
So, showing me age a bit now,
I've got a real soft spot in the last 12
months for a four, five, eight.
We've talked about them often.
Yeah, I love them.
GT3/GT3 RS.
That's because the ring is such an influential place.
But the, I've always hated Ferrari,
everything about them.
And then when, oh, beautiful,
when Lewis Hamilton joined, again,
I don't care about Formula One,
but when he joined and there was the picture
of him, the amounts of marinilla,
like a gangster with the F40.
Yeah.
Such a cool picture.
I love the fact they didn't use the SP3 or
more something new wave.
Such a turning point in my perspective of a gangster.
So cool.
That was such a turning point in my
perspective of Ferrari.
But I then started looking at four,
five, eight, so I was like, what money are they?
And they're like 100 to 120.
So GT3 money, age well, naturally aspirated
V8, cool thing.
But I wouldn't want to go lapping in it.
I would want to go round the Alps in it.
I want to go, I want to GT in it.
It will always be a GT3, but between 100 and
150 will be a GT3 and 150 over would be a 997 3RS.
But yeah, for sort of, hopefully within the
next couple of years would love a four,
five, eight.
Yeah, they are probably a convertible.
I'm on board with that.
The buttress of those of the convertibles
looks, and I'm a non-red Ferrari person.
So the convertibles tend to look even in water.
Like we've got the, there's the silvery blue
color on the four, five, eight spiders that look lovely.
It's also, it's age really well.
But again, if you'd said that like 10 years
ago, a convertible four, five,
eight was rental car spec.
Yeah.
You rented it as a wedding or it's hard,
but now just, also just a great engine.
I would love to drive on.
And the four, eight, I know is a lot,
lot better, but you lost the noise a lot,
didn't you, in the turbos.
And the noise, I will tell this story until I'm old.
And the noise, you can forget how important it is.
And I got firsthand experience of where we
are, where we're going and where we've been
in the F80 Ferrari came up the hill at Goodwood.
V6, mild hybrid.
And there was a noise, there was a noise,
but it wasn't amazing.
I had the exact same thing at Goodwood.
I was waiting for the wire at R,
that's what came past next.
And the goosebumps, I remember Mexican wave
of goosebumps went through me and I was sad
because I was like, that, the F80 is a special car.
I think it looks incredible.
And that's cutting edge.
But then that, I was like, we're never going
to get that again.
And I was sad because what really annoys me
with automotive journalists when they
badmouthed electric cars is you need to
change the vocabulary.
You know, you need to find what's new and exciting.
But then, and this, sorry, this is the most
important part, a hydrogen car came past and
it was 80% of the whole wire up.
And I was like, I can live with that.
Yeah, exactly.
For a future hypercar, I'm okay with that.
I don't want it to be that of the F80 V6 hybrid thing.
But the hydrogen, I'm like, yeah,
strap in because I'm okay with that as a and
greener boat.
Yeah, fully agree.
I could be swayed on a car that has a
supposedly bad chassis or whatever or the
sitting positions
bad or whatever.
But if it makes an incredible noise,
I
could be sold on it.
The Mustang we drove, the GT350 rep,
that it doesn't drive particularly well.
It's a '60s car, but it made the most bad shit noise.
If that was silent or was way quieter,
it's pretty rough.
But yeah, noise for me is, I saw the exact same thing.
And also, I think before the F80,
a 296 went, which is the sort of smaller,
yep, I don't know where it falls in there,
like sort of thing, but also similar engine V6.
And if I close my eyes and I heard both those
cars go, I couldn't differentiate them.
And that I thought, that's not good.
As a kid, if there are kids watching that F80
go, they're not going to go,
hell, I need one of that.
I'm going to go up and go, I need one of those.
Where's the few points that Ferrari go on,
Enzo go 10, 20 years ago, you'd go,
right, give me the poster, give me it in the game.
I need that as my wallpaper.
I think the other thing is, go 20 years back,
there's nothing that's driving the streets
normally that can get close to the hypercar noise.
Nothing was driving around that sounded like
a career GT or an Enzo.
But now, when an F80 drives past that you're
straight piped, I'm not saying it's a great
noise, but you know about it.
Oh, okay, crazy noise.
And then an F50 goes past, you're like,
that sounds quite quiet, actually,
in comparison.
But go back 30 years, and everyone will go.
The only, I'm just thinking this,
as you've said it, fast forward 20 years,
if 90% of the cars on the road are electric,
that is going to sound a bit.
I've never thought of that before,
actually.
Oh, yeah, maybe I'm wrong.
Because we were-- It was like seeing a horse
come down the street.
It was during supercar driver.
We packed off and we were leaving.
And we've been waiting for the whole IRR and
it never came around.
And as we were in the infield,
right in the middle, and there was,
there were things going past.
You could tell it was, it was generic noise dot wav.
You know, there was a hurricane in the background.
There was a something.
And then all of a sudden, as we were getting
in the car, we just heard, we heard that howl.
And Will instantly went, I'm going back in.
Yeah, I did.
But that is, that's it.
It's that it's there.
There's a, there's a sensory thing that it
just tingles your brain that goes.
Yeah, that's it.
That's the best thing.
That is, that's, yeah.
Noise is for me.
Again, maybe that's because I'm simple.
And maybe it's because I'm not intelligent
enough to appreciate the fact that my ball
joints are new and all that stuff.
But noise for me, I reckon you could,
you could influence a lot of people by making a car.
Like the, there's a really like,
relatively famous video of the Zonda.
So when the Zondai F, I think it was came out.
There's a video, I think Harry Metcalf was
there for, I can't remember.
That when they revealed it, they just took it
out the street.
Yeah.
And showed all the potential buyers.
Well, right, we're going to the Zonda law.
It's such a good idea.
Rather going right, here's the Zonda under cover.
Oh, how shiny it is.
Look at this carbon.
It's just them nailing it up and down the street.
And if you're a millionaire,
I'm going, I'm going, I need that.
Yeah.
If that sounds like that, put,
sign me up.
They told the billionaires to go and stand on
a, like a quite a tight Italian.
It's like a, there's cars on the side.
There's cars on the side.
It's like a normal English street and it's
just Horatio Pagani sending it up and down
and then doing wheel burnouts.
Yeah, he doesn't spin at the end.
You can hear it flies down the road and you hear,
whoo.
And then he just takes it down the road.
I was like, you know what?
As a, you know, million people thinking about
marketing and how to do it.
He sold all those on the refs that evening,
probably.
You've also just reminded me of Boeing.
They, I can't remember which aircraft it was.
I think it was the 737.
They had a load of airlines come to show them
their new products.
Yeah.
And rather than doing features and benefits,
they just did a barrel roll.
And I was like, well, that's cool.
Yeah.
I was looking around at the other companies.
Come on.
What are you going to do?
This is it.
This is it.
So if you're not a visual iPhone shot,
so this is like 2000 and I want to say it's
like seven or eight.
But it is just the car simply just flying off
a down the road.
I love it.
Well, clearly businessman and millionaires
are just, are just
standing by.
They're just flying off a close road to track.
He's doing skids.
Horatio Volkani one day.
We'd have to learn Italian for him to speak to anyone.
Although, I'm going to apply that same logic
the next time I sell a car and I don't think
I'll sell it.
And I may, honestly, look, just watch me fly
up down the street.
I'm going to burn out at the end.
Do you know what?
I think I'll leave for one.
Maybe it's all for coming, sorry.
I thought that's all it.
That's everything we have questions.
Why is there a forum or anything like that?
I think we are also coming up on two hours.
We have to come back.
We'll do another one way too much to talk about.
When we've maybe improved on our fuel can a little bit.
So one thing I needed to add,
I was a hot mess coming down here.
I had gifts for you, which I left in the
van.
And so, but your can is the best can.
But you will
have your own can very, very soon.
I am so sorry.
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