Ben's Apology, Exotic Car Colours and Ferrari's EV - C.R.E.A.M. #70

0:00 Introduction

We won't do that next.

It's a crazy noise.

I know clapping when I hear it.

In line five, always pleases like meats and cheeses.

Mis and cheeses.

Just send us things you're doing while creaming.

Oh, yeah.

Hello and welcome back to the

Cream podcast, the 70th Cars Rule Everything

Around Me podcast with myself,

Will, Edwin, to my right and Ben behind the

camera or in front of the camera,

I'd like to see it at the beginning of every

single one of these podcasts.

We ask ourselves do cars rule or ruin our

lives this week?

Edwin, where you at?

I'm going to say rule firstly because Ben

interrupt you on the intro and that's

we told you not to do that.

Never.

No, secondly, because I sold,

finally sold the Evo this weekend,

my friend, Will and we swapped over cars.

I dropped him the Evo.

He dropped me my

car.

I had left the ignition on left that on came

back to

about six or seven hours later and get

battery is dead.

Oh,

well, happens to the best of us.

So, jump back on it.

I've got my lights.

I'm ready.

Turn the key and it went.

You're missing something.

I'm not turning.

That's the last word.

Maybe the batteries are just dead.

I put it on on the electrical charger

overnight, came back in the morning battery.

I'm ready to go boss.

I'm happy.

I'm ready.

Turn the key.

Just nothing.

So, I believe that the key in this in the old

E36 has like a it's called EWS has like a

security module in it that registers with the

ring in the car and they go,

I know you you know me.

You can start the car.

They don't know each other right now.

So they're going, I'm not sorry.

You're not my key.

So you're not helpful.

Not great.

That's broken.

The times of old on my E36.

Quite a quite bold, really quite impressive.

Impressive.

And you know, I've explained to you why it's

because I did the alignment myself.

So I need to book.

I think I'll get someone else to do it this time.

And then what else is there?

There's something else.

My E36, my M3 is still not available yet.

It's still having a gasket work done.

It's the Fio video about it.

Yeah.

The yellow cats.

The green, my bingle.

No.

No.

So on Monday, as you're listening to this on

Monday coming, there'll be a video on your green clear.

I won't say anything yet.

We'll wait.

Maybe it's in the scrap heap.

Maybe it's dead.

So rule for me, William.

I will have to say a rule.

I will say a rule.

I will say a rule.

I ordered a load of bits for the clear.

Like far too many.

It's really that it's going off to have

Campbell service done and gearbox rebuild and

a quiff diff and other cool things.

I've ordered many mods and other things.

I can't wait to get started on that.

It'll be a wave for a little while.

Well, as that done, it'll come back.

Where else has happened?

My Range Rover did.

I don't know if I mentioned this before,

but Range Rover had a brake fluid issue.

It just wasn't brake fluiding anymore.

But if that's sorted, that's not sorted and it's back.

I just need to bleed them properly.

What else is there, Mégan?

Mégane.

We don't talk about them again.

Clio is there to replace them again because

we can't talk about them again.

No, again, we'll return.

It will return this year, I believe.

Yeah, you'd hope so.

We would hope so.

And that's all.

And, yes, actually, I have sold the sale.

Yeah.

I'll see how it's sold because I'm on a

mission to buy something else.

But off it goes.

Are you going to speak on what you're buying?

Do you know what?

Yes, I will because I'm frustrated at the

market right now.

Here we go.

3:57 Will's Focus RS Search and Ford Stance

Basically, me and my dad were considering

going halves on a focus.

R.S.

Mark 1, because they're very,

very cool.

I've always wanted one.

Sorry, snakes, worries.

And they simply lovely.

We've both had Mark 2s before,

but a Mark 1 is just nice.

And they're at sort of an odd point of the

market where they're not cheap by the means.

If you want a low-mile one, you're getting

your pants pulled down.

You're paying 30, 40 grand, basically.

But if you don't mind mods, which I don't,

I'd actually prefer more fun because I think

it'd be a more exciting car.

You can get one quite cheap,

but there's not many.

When's it going to see one in?

No, it's everywhere.

When's it going to see one that was basically

the cheapest one for sale, it was a red flags galore.

So I made it when I'm from it.

He totally refused it.

He'd rather break it for bits.

Now, can you please talk about his stance while driving?

There is a Ford stance.

There is.

It's sort of Ford and Vauxhall,

but it's quite Ford.

I recognize it in Ford where the Macrest not needed.

The Babbist is quite reclined,

just for sort of vibes alone,

but they lean forward and then the hand and

the arm sort of curbs curves over the steering wheel.

So you're almost steering with all your arm as well.

Your chest is nearly touching the steering wheel.

And your head is quite far forward.

You're looking around.

You don't really know what you're looking at,

but you're looking for a parking space as if

you've got a very long bonnet,

but you're in a focus.

That was the sort of Ford stance.

And then he took me down the road in it,

completely uninsured, untaxed,

everything.

This is a 450 horsepower.

It was quite cool, I was almost sold on it.

It may be warmed up for five minutes,

not a lot of time.

No, really, not enough time for oil to go.

First 450 horsepower.

Yeah.

And then a sort of first, second,

third gear wheel spinning pull down the road.

And I was a bit like, you know what,

that was cool.

But that, you know, it's a lot of power on a

standard engine, is it going to go up?

So yeah, that was a no-go.

There's another one up north,

that was a no-go.

But if anyone knows anything about anything

at all about a Mark on Focus RS for sale,

for good money, cheat.

I'm talking like sub 15 or 16 grand,

basically.

mileage isn't the end of the world,

as long as it's not rusty, mods I don't

really care about.

Something that is a little project,

but nothing, no super.

There is a couple of pieces of shit,

and it cannot have an ST-170 engine,

because that's whatever it was.

There was one on Kofar, ST-170 engine that was knocking.

For not only did it have the wrong engine,

it had a knocking wrong engine.

So yeah, there's a, there are a few very

cheap ones about, but if anyone knows any

off-market ones, send them my way.

Now, I have a feeling I know what Ben's going to be.

Do we say?

Yeah, I'm a ruin.

Oh, why is that then?

Nothing major.

I don't think I just have a boot full of

water in my golf because VW designed the Mark

7 Golf and

went cool.

It's good to go.

Actually, a great car.

Make it leak from seven different locations.

So I'm just going through that.

The main leak point, which is the classic is

like vents behind the rib bumper.

Haven't done those yet.

So I've been driving them out.

And it's just filling up with water.

Lovely.

Yeah.

So I need to do that.

I have the bits of that now and I tried to

get it aligned.

What?

How's that?

And when you get to your destination,

do it still have?

Yeah, I checked it.

Because I've checked it a lot recently.

The car thinks it has all the cars cool.

Well, I checked it on Saturday.

Okay.

Okay.

And the car agrees with you.

Your problem, Moses, there goes,

you can car.

Yeah.

It said to me, check me.

Oh, okay.

But I think the car knows what happened with F2000.

It's just being, it's speaking.

Yeah.

So can you just check it again?

Yeah, just check it again.

I don't know.

I'm lying on the big piece.

I was thinking behind the wheel to check that.

Well, is it not a good practice for me to

have a car that won't spoil regularly?

And then you check it and it's quite clearly fine.

But it's still going, well, sure.

That is an interesting one.

I don't know about that, but anyway.

The, what does it say?

Yeah, I took it from alignment on Saturday,

which was great.

Well, that was, I went to the alignment.

I was like, I was like, oh, and this was a

popular, well-known alignment sort of place.

Yeah, like I was like, specialist for alignment.

So like, you know, they, they know just how

to book alignment, right?

It was a very, I would say who,

but it was a, a known garage change.

maybe orange, perhaps.

I could easy for them.

It was easy.

Yeah, easy, easy services.

That's what it was.

I got there and I hadn't put it for 3.30.

I walked in later.

And what time did you get there?

I got there about 3.23.

Okay.

So 10 minutes before I was a bit late,

I was a bit worried.

I was a bit late.

I said, yeah, whatever.

So got there.

I said, I've got, I've got a booking for 3.30

said, oh, that's weird.

We're doing it 12.30.

I said, that's odd because I here's my analysis.

I was booked in for 3.30 or so I had to prepay.

So I paid the first one.

Cool.

And then they said to me, yeah,

well, actually, your appointment was 9.30 a.m.

Sorry.

Your drop off time was 3.30 p.m.

Which I said, hi, what?

And she went, yeah, no, you have to drop the

car at 3.30 p.m.

But it gets done.

It will get done.

Then we go back in time.

Back in time at 9 a.m.

We do it.

Yeah.

And I said, okay, and then they didn't,

wouldn't do it.

Now I literally said what?

I don't want to say it.

Go on.

But I did tell you so.

Ben came to me and said, I'm going to book it

in front of the front.

Shut up.

Did you say that?

No, no, no, no.

I'm going to book it in.

I'm going to book it in at this place.

No.

Orange place.

And I said, I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't do the blue one.

I wouldn't do any of those ones because you

are going to get Ben chose again,

once again, path of least resistance.

No, it's true.

He typed it in on Google.

You know, he didn't even get past the advertised bit.

He just clicked the advertised one and he

went, that'll do.

You give me a slot at this time.

You said, don't do that.

And that's fair.

If I get how I'm done.

Ben, no, right.

Let me tell you something.

No, you're right.

You're trouble not to do that,

which is different to what you're doing.

saying.

If I get the alignment done and it's bad,

totally fair, is what you said.

But you didn't say, one go there,

they're booking systems.

They're terrible.

They're going to book you no idea.

The overall experience is not very good.

Well, I've looked in again for this Saturday.

I've seen things in a different place.

This one was in Wales.

You are a buffoon of catastrophic nature.

Sorry, it's a golf.

If they can't allow a golf, they shouldn't be able to.

They don't know if they are open.

No, she doesn't mean that I've had it.

You literally thought they'd do time travel.

You went, oh, so you do believe in time travel.

Anyway, you could book me in yesterday.

I didn't actually think I'd do time travel.

Anyway, she told me the booking system is

broken, which is something that you probably

should fix, but fine.

That's your problem.

Yeah.

And then I had a call today.

We were filming.

I had a call today from a call center related

to these people.

They said, hi, I was sorry about your

experience on Saturday.

We'd like to read books.

You and said, that's great.

They said, we can give you some appointments

where we'd like to go.

I told them the location.

And I said, in Bristol.

And they said, Oh, we got like probably three

or four of these on Bristol.

When we got to be there, I said,

sadly, no problem.

Sadly, it sounds good.

We got nothing.

But anyway, I was going to refund it and then

just hung up on me.

I was like, OK, perfect.

So anyway, but you're still going there,

though.

Yeah.

So you know what?

No, of course.

Then I heard the phone like being put down

tone and went, right, who else?

Which other one of these?

Where would you go?

Anyone got the advertising?

Oh, anyone.

OK, fine.

Well, that's what I've done.

Anyone that is a local specialist alignment

shop or an Italian shop.

will do it.

It's true.

This is a time shop.

No, actually not.

Because the tire shop, I had a line on the X5

done at a tire shop, a chain tire shop,

chain, like a, like a, like a,

there's a problem.

Well, then why are they chain?

Because they're for NPCs to go.

Sorry.

I'm not doing this.

I'm not going.

I'm not living in the world where I go into a

place that is meant to do something.

They can't do it.

It's like, it's like walking into Tesco and

then going, Oh, we forgot about all of the groceries.

Yeah, they've gone.

And then you going, Oh, I'm going to go to

the local corner shop.

That's where you get your food.

That should be going.

Yeah.

No, I'm going to alignment specialist.

Great.

I had it done on, on, on.

Get that.

Get on the client.

Get on the call to works to do the golf.

Just setting up the golf, just to lean into that corner.

It's going to be.

Anyway, the four southbound.

No, are you more southbound?

Are you more northbound?

I'm going to change the toe for you.

So what part of the equate to you on here?

Like what we talking?

Are you mainly a left lane or you kind of middle lane?

Because we'll set up the camber a little bit flat.

We'll like NASCAR.

The wheels slightly turn.

So I'm going to go and get it on Saturday.

We will see how update you next podcast.

Managers to find the ruin in the most rule of nature.

Sorry.

It's a golf alignment.

Perfectly working car, basically.

It's over.

It's over for the golf.

We are so open.

We're doing another video next week that's

buying Ben a new daily.

The boot is a bit annoying.

That is annoying.

Yeah, but you know what?

When we gave you that car, I had a dry boot.

That's all I'll say.

You are the destroyer of cars.

You are a a cracker.

What do you think?

You're getting buckets of water and pouring

it into the boot just a bit.

I think you've just been leaving wet socks

and things in your boot.

He gets on and leaves the boot open and goes,

well, I see that in the morning.

Right.

Mike, I've been drawn on the motorway.

With the boot open.

Anyway, it's not interesting.

I need to replace those events.

I'll do it next week.

Okay.

And you're planning on doing that yourself?

A rear bumper coming off?

I don't know how so.

Yeah.

Well, I don't know if we're helping.

No, I don't think you are, but I'll do it one

evening next week.

I'm just scared of it going moldy.

Like actually scared of it.

I keep checking it to make sure there's no

mold in there.

It's all right.

Yeah.

It's in the spare wheel well.

So it's

like dark.

Yeah.

Just suck that out.

Get the whole wet back on it.

Well, my plan is to take it all out.

Completely clean it out.

The whole interior.

Completely clean out the carpet and then fix the issues.

I've got like three more

things to fix.

I'm putting a bean bag in there.

Oh, I love a bag of beans.

I have a bag of beans.

in the front though.

Oh, that makes sense.

Move that.

No.

First idea, move that back.

Yeah, because it would suck up some of them.

But then all the water will be in the dashboard.

That would make some sense, would it not?

Like temporarily?

No.

No, no.

No, that's fair.

No, you make a great point.

Should we do some other bits?

Yeah, let's move on.

Let's move on.

Let's move on.

Ben said, all right, enough of that.

Thank you.

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14:30 Car Vertical Check Story

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First thing on things and stuff and what

such, Edwin, you've put in here,

G_loverage is the creaming of the weeks.

Mr.

G_loverage is the man who did the commentator

ship on Chelsea walks in and he messaged me

and said, he actually asked for Creamer of the Week.

So unfortunately, you're not going to get

Creamer of the Week, but you will get a shout out.

Okay.

Because no, you can't ask for Creamer of the

Week, is that how it works?

Yeah, that's fair.

But you can apply to win an Oscar.

That's kind of how you do it.

But you don't say, "Can I win the Oscar?"

Can I have the Oscar?

You'd say- If it's implied when you- You'd

say, "I want to be considered."

Yeah.

This is for consideration.

You don't say- But is that not what you said?

No.

He said to me, "This is for..."

Well, maybe he did say consideration of

Creamer of the Week.

Either way, you're not having it.

No.

He said, "I was listening."

He'd go, "It's a photo.

We've got photo proof."

And there is a video, but I can't know for it.

What car is this?

He's in the brand new Land Cruiser,

the press Land Cruiser, which is apparently

80 grand worth of Land Cruiser.

He was listening to the podcast.

Well-doing doughnuts in it.

No, that's nice.

Do you know what?

I like that.

No, do you know what?

You are cream of the week.

There you go.

Over-rolled.

Ben, well, okay, fine.

I can't do that, but I have.

So there we go.

You know what?

As according to Ben, you're the Creamer of the Week.

But shout out, just a quick one.

That's kind of cool.

I thought this may open up an opportunity to...

This may end badly.

But you know, just send us things you're

doing while creaming.

Oh!

Yeah.

Well, no, that's fair.

No, yeah, it's not.

Send it in anyway.

But nothing explicit, please.

No, we'll have a look.

We'll have a look.

All right.

Send it in.

We'll have a look.

We'll have a look.

Next up, Edwin Inch's comments.

Now, just a very small tangent.

We talked in episode 68, I want to say.

Just prior to 69, Ben's belief.

Oh, no, it might have been last week.

Either way, you know, sorry,

all 68 about what the best tablet size was.

And I fully forgot what that conversation is about.

And we said in there, put in your comments

about the Inch's.

I just happened to be sitting on the sofa

going through the comments.

I open the comments and went,

what is everyone talking about?

I've just, it's someone wiped my mind.

And I stared at it for maybe 30 seconds.

And my, it's for so long that my girlfriend

walked in and went, what's wrong?

I went, what?

She went, why do you look so upset?

I said, I just, I don't understand what these

comments are.

Because you were so impressed.

I had to go down.

I mean, it's like 14 inches.

Look, do you know what?

The comments did exactly as we asked.

They didn't give it away.

Anything about screen size, they just talked for inches.

So another shout out to the creamers.

You're, you're, you're doing it right.

Following the rules.

Thanks so much.

As instructed.

The army of creamers saying yes.

Thank you for ensuring that anyone whose

first time it was listening to the podcast

that week was completely baffled.

Taking on that, looking at the comments

going, this podcast isn't.

Let me just look through the comments to see

how I can summarize this podcast.

Oh, oh, no.

New.

Nine inches.

14 inches.

Eight inches.

I'd subscribe.

No.

That's impressive.

Impressive.

News and Ben.

I don't know where the F's coming.

Breakups involved there.

Ben, you've said here C63, axed and replaced

by the C53.

This is what we call an industry,

a madness.

Okay.

I'm adding.

I'm doing up a madness.

Yes.

I'll find it for you.

Basically, the gist of it is,

is the...

The gist of it is the C63 is being replaced

by the C53.

All right, fine.

You saw the news then.

Basically, a C63 used to be a V8.

Yeah.

Very good V8.

Everyone loved it.

And then the series went, this is selling well.

Everyone likes it.

Let's replace it with a four cylinder.

Lovely.

Hybrid thing.

And it is quicker.

And it is, it is, you will perform recently.

Don't perform recently.

Everyone recently had said it's Ben's World.

And it is exceptionally fast,

but

God hell.

Now, here's my question to you.

Would you be, would you accept it if it was a C43?

That's exactly what it was.

If it was a C43, I wouldn't care because I

don't care what they are.

But the 63 has to have the V8.

It has to have a V8.

Were it twin turbo, quad turbo,

one turbo, turbo, no turbo, whatever it is,

wack and go, I don't care if you put 200

horsepower V8 in it.

No, it has to have the V8.

I do actually.

Yeah, I'd like it.

You can blame music quite fast.

But anyway, I drove that car.

It was cool.

It's, it's just, it's like exceptionally heavy.

And yeah, it's just, there's something wrong

when you see that cause it looks great.

And you get in it and you start it and it

doesn't make a noise.

Then you drive away and the engine start.

Yeah.

Do you know what the marketing has worked?

Because 53 to me, 53 to an hour is a V6.

Yep.

53 a bit of V6.

53 is V6.

It was before, I think a V6 and then 43 is,

is.

I thought 43 was always the V6.

I thought 43 is also a V6.

Well, anyway, what I'm saying is that 50,

the 50 somethings are now to me non V8.

Yeah, 55 is the OG.

That's fair.

Any 55 is the big dog, but now 63 is that big number.

They should just keep going.

Like what they did in the 90s,

70, 70, 73.

But also the C63 name had, I mean,

it doesn't even make sense with the 48 really.

It kinda made some sense when it was the,

well, 6.2 litre in line four.

Yeah, no, that's been one of the great mistakes.

I was searching, so I overheard that and my

brain went, "Is that what?"

No way.

Tractor.

But yeah, they're replacing the C63,

'cause weirdly, no one bought the car.

They removed the one thing everyone loved about it.

That's crazy.

So they're replacing it with the C53,

which is an inline six.

So we're getting better.

In line six.

But we're in...

B58 out here.

So I'm sure that'll sell better.

has something.

You've gotta see...

I don't know.

It's either a 43 or a 53, and it's got some

sort of spicy pipe on it.

And it sounds quite nice.

It sounds quite nice, but I accept,

I don't want one, because they look like a

normal C car.

Yeah, they do.

They don't have big ass shoulders and what such.

But yeah, no, before so then they can get in the bin.

Sorry, just gonna quickly check here for us.

Okay.

C53 AMG, C43, is...

a twin-turbo V6 in a W205, which is the

C-Class previous

generation.

So that's what 43 is.

This is also an E53.

And

then 53 now is an inline six.

And that's the big boy now.

Yes, sad.

You know what?

If you can make it a B58 rival,

where it's straight up, piped an email,

and what such.

It's really annoying, though,

about the engine that's in that C-Class is

it's actually, you put that in something else,

smaller.

Well, I know it's in the A-Class,

but it is more tuned than that.

I think that is the most powerful,

truly, most powerful cylinder or something,

even if you take the hybrid stuff away.

But that's something to write home about.

Yeah.

If it was in the A-Class or if it was in

something smaller or whatever.

But when you put it in a C-63,

it takes how special it is.

You're giving it a direct comparison.

You're going, was the V8 now?

Yeah.

If it's not a new car, fine.

Yeah.

Do you know what's interesting is that no

one, there was a bit of an uproar,

but when you went from the E92 to the F

series BMW, and you went from a V8 to an

inline six, no one was able,

at least they were before, but still it was very special.

And then it went, boring, a bit horrible.

But yeah, it's just the four cylinder is,

there'd be less uproar if it was a V6,

probably.

But the thing is, it's such a C-63,

where M3 was, again, it was a four cylinder,

so it's kind of had all of its different

iterations, where a C-63 started with a 6.2

litre V8, but you've got to slow out and just

fix it, do something else.

What we got next?

Tax in April.

Have you heard that in April,

the VED, Ben

stands for?

cars with certain emissions,

but lots of old cars are being impacted.

Some of those cars, there are tough ones to see.

Audi TT 1.80s, everywhere.

Gen 1 early ones.

Those are going up to £735.

Now, is 735 still the top tax bracket?

Is there higher than that?

Well, I think for classic, as in older stuff,

I think that might be.

Or 760, I think, might be the top one.

But so, yes, 735 pounds, for a car that you

can find for 700 quid.

Those cars are

going to be worthless.

No one's buying those.

Those going

off the road.

As a little budget thing, no one's going to

want to pay 70, 60, whatever it is,

quid a month.

That generation was capped, wasn't it?

Yeah, up to, what was it, '06?

It was maxed like 400 quid.

Yeah.

What?

I haven't looked at that.

Well, my glado is 400 quid.

It may be going up.

Ask, go out and show it.

So Ford, Ford, Mondayo is like just a

standard V6, Mondayo.

That's 735.

As a fear of VXR, 735.

So the generation after ours.

And then the saddest one.

But also potentially, well, it's not great.

He's golf off '82.

Well, 532, now 760 pounds.

They already were.

A Mark V would have been already.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Maybe this is my fault.

Mate Sam had a Mark V1 and it was 710.

Anything

25:11 VED Tax Increases for Older Cars

like after '06, it's like a somewhat juicy

engine would have been in that top.

So yeah.

It makes me feel old as old as shit,

because I remember like when I had an Alfa

Brere V6, that was in there.

And that was an '06 car.

And it was like, oh, the Texas 550 pounds.

So much.

Now it's like creeping up to 8,000 pounds,

basically.

The vehicle's registered between March 1st,

2001 and April 1st, 2017.

If it's making over 255 G's per kilometer,

you're paying 750 to 790 pounds.

So William, I think, unfortunately,

this may be- How do I check this?

You can check on the Domino's app,

they might be able to tell you.

If you're between 226 and 255,

it is rising from 735 to 760.

So that's what the ego R32s are going up,

another 40 or 50 pounds.

So it's a rough one.

That's sad.

I know what, I'd put off looking at it

because I'd heard about increases and I

wanted nothing to do with it.

But yeah, I'm going to check that later,

I'm going to get on the go.

Get on the old V5 and see what my emissions is.

Because I was quite pleased with that.

Yeah, at the moment, mine's 430 pounds.

So I'm going up, but I can't see it.

I'm in fact 255, you said.

255 and over.

Okay.

Ben, I think the GTD is all right.

No, I'm 4.

Is that the grams per kilometer on my motor?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What are you, 300 and something?

550.

What is it?

Or something?

5, 450.

Okay.

I think you said so.

I think he might be up in the top.

That's such horse shit.

No, I mean, actually, to be fun.

Because you really can.

Why are they coming after Lamborghini owners?

They're not.

We've been through it.

The fear isn't like,

Monday was getting hit with it.

That's not really fair.

I got a lot of them.

I think they're Lamborghini owners.

Think of us.

Well, what they do, they were able to feed the kids.

Well, they don't have bone.

I can't even have any.

I don't think he can't feed the kids.

What kids, like, six to three months?

I can't.

And that's now going to be my tax bill.

Road tax, 700 degree year.

Although, we can play a lot in this country

about the road tax.

And it is, I think, horsemen.

Yeah.

I do think it is horsemen.

You're because, especially the roads I drive,

I know it's not they take space in the missings.

But the roads we drive on are utter drops.

Oh, they're terrible.

It's really our dog shit.

Everything about the roads is dog shit.

The road works are dog shit.

The roads are dog shit.

The way the roads are managed are dog shit.

and we pay that, you know, ridiculous price.

But in Europe, wow.

It's tough.

People in Italy feel bad for you.

How much are we talking?

So I think it goes off the side.

It goes off both their power and the size of

their engine.

Do I remember my dad talking to a guy who had

a tester rosser?

And I think it was 5,000 euro a year.

5,000.

Just to have his car on the road.

Oh, sad.

Before he drives a mile, before he does anything.

Ireland, I think, is quite bad as violence.

Yeah, very high.

More sort of closer to home.

We still can.

We're sounding.

All right.

Money bags, Ben.

No, 700 quid.

I don't care.

No, I'm paying £35 a year on my road tax.

Yeah, how do you know?

Must be nice for sale.

How do you know?

How do you know how's it been a change?

Oh, does anything else changing?

I literally just got it down to that.

That was such a quick turn around from Ben.

That's very up.

You have a look off.

Actually, yes, 2000.

Does it mean there'll be cars coming up for sale?

Yes, it will be.

But you will then have to pay the tax.

Or just don't pay it.

Money saving tips with the TDC.

If you only own the car, six months.

Yeah, then you don't pay for a full year,

do you?

Sure, OK.

I'm only paying $350,000 for it.

What is it?

237 kilograms per kilometer kilogrammes per kilometer?

That's a lot.

DPF-de-lee, EGR-de-lee, on the S2000.

Because later S2000s are already 700 equitably.

So you're 237.

You are going from 735 to 760.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm paying 430 currently.

There's between-- No, I'm not.

226 and 255 is rising from 735 to 735.

And that is between-- But pre-2001 to April 1st,

2017.

I

think I could be before that.

Well, then you could be lucky.

I can tell you right now.

It's when you were born.

Yes, when it was registered.

Was it March the 1st, 2001?

Yeah.

No, because I pay 430 now.

It's not going to rise from that to 700.

Oh, Benjamin.

Oh, that's 2000 you're talking about.

Yeah.

I think you're probably going to be fine,

but don't worry about it.

There'll be creams in the comments who know

much better than we do.

They'll correct us.

You know what?

There's always a song.

Well, it's too fair might as well.

It's in storage.

So what we've got next?

What we've got next is from New Edwin,

which is the Ferrari report.

What you mentioned the other day.

The Ferrari report.

Someone reported.

Oh, yes.

So behind us, if you are a visual viewer,

you will see a lovely-looking Ferrari 355,

which by the time you hear this podcast will

no longer be ours.

We're taking it to an auction on Friday and

it will be gone for us forever.

Really sad, I know.

Oh, man.

But when we first posted this car,

that was the tail end of last Christmas,

the Christmas before.

And someone that we said in the video,

you can report fake Ferrari products to

Ferrari and they will potentially reward you.

Now we've had actually, I think two people

get in contact with us now and say,

I just got my reward.

It came through from Ferrari and it was a

little note that said, thank you for

reporting fake Ferrari merchandise.

What you're doing here helps us to build more

really middling cars down.

And what they got was a cap.

One guy got a red Ferrari cap and one guy got

a

black Ferrari cap.

I mean, they did say it was a gift.

They didn't say how big the gift was or I

think, you know, caps, kind of what we could

have really expected.

But something a little bit more interesting.

But what it does mean is that I think for

them to get that Ferrari, someone employed by

Ferrari has seen our video, watched it and

gone, okay, we'll deal with that.

Now what happens to us, we don't know from here.

We may be assassinated in some form of Italian style...

We're going to drive into a tunnel.

There's going to be a digger in there and a

mafia boss at the other end,

he's going to chuck a reef down a hill.

It turns out it's just road works because our

roads are terrible.

It's going to come out.

Okay.

So, you know, thank you, you know,

for all of you that did report us,

your clowns, enjoy the cap.

Yeah, enjoy all your caps.

Other than the research, I'm up by 35 pounds a year.

It's not 700 quid.

It's now like 400 something more.

Okay.

So that's where you are.

I panicked from it.

I was like, no, no.

Golf though.

Oh, not the golf.

No, the golf is fine.

If it goes up from a 35 to 45,

I'll swallow that.

Oh, I think it's 45 to 100 pounds.

I like that point.

You sell at a 700 pound a year car to a 30

pound car and go straight like it does 700

pounds a year.

Oh, well, anyway, we won't do that,

Nick.

We will do Ben.

Well, telling me that Merck are using BMW engines.

Question mark.

You're telling me a shrimp fried this rice?

You're telling me they are.

I believe they are.

Why does Ben do this?

Before this podcast, I would like it known.

I said to Ben, right?

I don't do this.

Will said to me.

Got all the photos up.

I said, yes.

I said to Ben.

What did you say?

You said, Ben, you got your forum?

Yeah.

Ben said, yes.

I

said, Ben, if you researched your news

articles, Ben said

nothing.

What I do, what I do, is I get the article.

His following time.

But what he doesn't realise is that he isn't

in clever enough.

He's not clever enough to buy time and think

about the other thing in the background.

So he still needs the time.

He buys time in the end of it goes,

hold on.

Shit, my time's run out.

You got it?

I have it from the start.

I'm just getting the facts up on my phone.

I don't know what you're going to say next,

but why on the list?

Why don't you have the facts up?

Phone?

What does that mean?

No, no, no, so the phone, if you don't look

at it, it's off.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

There's like seven news articles and we'll

randomly read them out.

So, I don't know.

Can I please hear about the fact that

Merkades are using BMW?

So apparently Merci, the use of too many

people are using it from 2027.

The B48?

I don't know, didn't say.

It just said four cylinders.

Why would they not use theirs?

I don't know.

Some regulation, basically what it said,

but I thought it was interesting that they

would do that.

So they're doing a club, bro?

It's not a club, I think.

I wonder if it is the B48, because that's

mini, mini engine, one series engine.

Oh, sorry, three seven, do you say?

No, four.

No, I thought it was a 48, three seven.

I read four.

No, I thought a B48 is normal.

Who knows this?

Please, sorry.

Who knows things?

God, this is really all over the place

podcast this week.

The B48 is a turbocharged inline four petrol.

It is a B48.

He's done it!

So that's kind of crazy.

So now that's going to be mini BMW and

Mercedes all using it.

It's not fully confirmed from what I read.

Sometimes they use them in other cars as

well, like weird, random ones.

What about the in-your-screen engine?

Sorry, the Toyota Supra has a B48.

Not all of that?

Yeah, they have a four-cylinder one of those.

So that's going to be Toyota,

Mercedes, BMW and Mini all using the same engine.

I don't know who bought one.

I don't know what the Morgan plus four as well.

Visual identifier is of a four-cylinder Supra.

Often.

Wheels.

I know the wheels are different.

The wheels are smaller.

I felt like I've never seen one.

I don't know.

They had it.

There is something else.

I remember it because I have actually seen a

few and I don't know why humans are doing this.

Yeah, well, it's silly, isn't it?

Really?

You're not buying that car for design anyway.

Yeah.

You're buying it because it has a B48.

And you already know it in about 25 years time.

There's a few people going.

Well, a four-cylinder

was the one to go for because it was more balanced.

It was actually, it had a 55% front weight

balance compared to the car's 56.

And you really felt that as you left the driveway.

Yeah, shout out.

It was actually the thinking man,

Supra.

Yeah, that's, I hate that.

I hate that.

I hate that.

Meanwhile, doing silly dug-its in a three-litre.

Man saw it, you should be there.

You know what?

Almost joins in with Perish and Schod thinking man.

It's the thinking man's potato,

that one.

The sweet potato.

You want to see a chip?

Do you know what that is?

That's thick cup chips is the thinking man's spud.

That's what that is.

Anyway, Ben's the thinking man's ass.

I don't think I am.

He's the thinker, the big thinker.

Okay, next up.

This is a question from a

man who submitted, actually,

when we talked about the Karen

Mercedes thing, like the MP4-12 thing being

the thing

before it was a thing.

Yes, his name is Tex-Rafica.

But he sent a question in after talking about

the we had the liquid yellow on 2DC,

saying, what is the wildest factory color,

but on a cheap car?

It's not expensive cars.

It's easy, isn't it?

Like there's going to be, yeah,

this is a one of one brown mixed with green

and this, but now I had a thought.

I know what it is.

I think your thought is the same.

What is it?

Is it from this country?

No.

Okay.

Because it was originally, and then I had

another brain thought.

Now, Ben, we'll throw it to you first.

Cheap car.

Noiled color.

Cheap car with a crazy color.

I'd say cheap, like, let's say,

I mean, for you, it's not what a sub,

like...

A couple of mil, like, Ben's thinking,

all right, Gumpet, Apollo, those,

a couple of those.

A sub 10 grand.

A sub 10, I don't know.

Oh, oh, there is one.

It's in my mind.

It's coming to me.

36:46 Question: Wildest Factory Color on a Cheap Car

Here we go.

One.

Okay, what color is it?

Oh, what am I...

I was thinking...

Oh, it's down one color.

It's got really cheap.

It's got weird paint.

It's unfair, grand.

It's got mad paint color.

My thought is an MG or a Rover.

The classic.

There are some minis from back in the day.

R-53 minis.

You just see them in kind of wild colors that

you wouldn't expect from a car of that.

Would you like me to give you the correct

answer that I think I must be correct?

No, that's bad.

Mystique, which was an addition,

a genuine addition

that you could buy.

That is chrome effect.

A little 90s macro that you could get with

flip paint and they also did a Primera in

Mystique Green, which I've got photo here.

Now, they are rare and you don't find them very often.

So I think you're probably right that MG is

the

cheapest because you just find them.

But how many of the cheap ones are now fit?

That's what I mean.

A micro is

cheap, but I don't know how many of those are about them.

That's what I mean.

There's not many.

So they're probably going to be a couple of

grams still at least, but I still think it's

got to be the micro.

I can't see that there's the cleos are

relatively cheap and you can get.

If you're an audio listener,

it's orange and pinky red.

You're putting into like pink and red,

which is cool.

You can search micro, kale have a micro mystique.

How many of those have been written off

because someone had to paint them?

It got a tiny ding and then the body shop

went, "I'm not doing that."

I've seen quite a lot of those.

I've seen quite a lot of those micros in that spec.

Really?

Yeah.

I've seen like two in my life.

It was breast on a hotspot.

But hey, what is rare?

A black micro.

What was your answer?

You didn't have one.

I said like a-- Ben said, "I like one of those."

Yeah, like that.

A micro or like a Rover or MG.

I like what you guys said.

Can I please get something from you?

I don't know.

You don't have to know what the name is.

I just want the car.

I can't think-- What car have you seen?

That's a little bit mad.

There's a-- It's not actually a matter of color.

It's a car of course back.

You can get basically BMW Oxford Green,

but on insignia.

It is.

I've seen that, and I think that's quite cool.

Do you know what?

You can get-- Well, technically,

the cheapest one is probably the Range Rover we bought.

That's 500 pounds.

You can get the Rover 75s.

I think they're the V8 ones.

You've seen them a lot with--

With Krover Flares?

Krover Flares?

He's a Krover Flares.

He has the grossest parts.

But all over the place.

I like the first thing you think,

obviously, you just go straight to flip paint.

Yeah, flip paint.

So you flip paint or like a triple pearl type thing.

But yeah.

But there's been a few Toyotas I've seen.

And this isn't really cheap car because

they're kind of new.

But I see a Toyota and I'm like,

what a mental color.

Oh.

It's like a deep mauve.

Yeah.

It's kind of crazy.

I remember filming that thing with Ben in the St.

Louis car park.

This Toyota came past.

And it was literally like TV aspect paint.

Yeah.

Like a little bit slightly darker.

It was like a greeny like, what would you call it?

Like petrol blue kind of color.

Like 47 different colors.

Yeah.

I love that now.

We went through this thing in the mid 2010s

where it was like everything silver black.

And then now everything's everyone's like,

yeah, let's make it crazy.

Let's go weird with colors again.

I like when it's on that gray and I want gray.

Let's have gray.

Also I love gray.

Here's my other.

Here's my other thing.

If you're, I know that maybe there's not as

much choice if you're like leasing or financing car.

If it's not actually your car,

if it's like a lease deal, why not go crazy with it?

Spice it up.

You don't need to worry about resell value.

You're giving that thing back.

Run me some weird color and smash it up.

I will have chroma flare pink on my Aris.

I don't know how many offer actually cool colors there.

No, exactly.

BMW is good.

Actually, do you know what?

BMW probably not far in cheap car realm.

Under 10 grand, you're going to get something individual.

You can get in this.

That is a wild and probably maybe Mercedes

less, I don't know, less Audi that I see.

They're quite hard to find.

I think of like a Merlin purple on like a

city or whatever.

But in BMW Mercedes, you've got those like,

oh, a nice little tan snakes.

A one of 17.

Scrongulated green.

I saw there is actually for sale right now an

Arizona sun, which is a really rare color on

E46's compact.

which is kind of a weird cool.

Is that the, I know I've got that orange in my head?

I will show you.

It's basically kind of the same color as that

micro that we just looked at.

Here you go.

That's the smallest.

I recall this color, but it's a it's a very

bright orange.

Like I saw it the other night when I was on

Facebook and thought, Oh, it's a weird thing.

Well, can we just I've just only just looked

at the game where we've got on the screen.

I knew what it was, but the car that's being

driven right now is a would you like to

explain what it is?

I didn't know any two hundred was a thing,

if I'm honest.

But anyway, this is Mercedes-Benz world,

the game we've got on the moment.

Yeah, but it's a classic, which is just Mercedes.

I played it as a child and I also hated

Mercedes as a child, but it was a game to play.

There's damage in it.

Yeah, he did just crash in front on and the

rear of the cars bent.

All I used to do in this game was just turn

around, go the other way and just hit people head on.

No, that's probably a little window into my psyche.

Makes sense.

Next up, very small, angry.

I'm going to say before, I appreciate that we

have to have

horses and that people want to have horses

for the economy or we don't have to have

horses as a pet.

In order for freedom of the people,

people like horses, they want to use their horses.

And I somewhat accept that we have to share

the roads with horses and cyclists and potholes.

It's

got to be driven by something else,

isn't it?

You drive a horse?

No, but it's an external horse,

isn't it?

You just have a clutch and rail.

But basically, you know, we've all been there.

A horse is slightly frustrating.

Sorry, we've all been there,

horses.

You've been behind a horse and you're stuck

between a horse and a hard place.

Because you see the horse and you want to get

past the horse.

But you've got to go so slow,

so slow past the horse.

And also we've all been there and you creep

past said horse.

And not the horse looks at you.

The person on the horse looks at you and

goes, I slow down now.

The horse says, slow it down.

I literally, anything and all.

And I'll stop.

Also, I'll just be alongside you then for

longer, which the horse is not going to like.

But anyway, I was in passenger seat of my girlfriend's.

Of a horse.

Of a horse.

Of a horse.

Of my girlfriend's car.

Going down a, a, a side car.

It's like a mile an hour road,

like a back road type thing.

You know, you have these roads and there's

like t junctions that go off.

Very discovered roads.

Moving up to a t junction horse set of

horses, pair of horses.

But they indicate a horse.

Did they?

Yeah.

Who's right of way?

No, it was, we're already on the road.

Okay.

So it's our right way and we're doing 50

miles an hour, possibly 48, possibly more.

Don't know.

Circular for a few miles an hour.

Really, weird thing to specify.

Pause, pulls up.

And the road is lined by trees,

right?

So you can't see what's pulling up that road.

You don't see it when it pulls up.

So you'd have, you would be a cautious horse rider.

You'd have to be cautious.

Well, for one, I just don't think you'd take

your horse there, would you?

It's a bit silly.

It's like pulling up to a slip road to the M4

with your horse and going, "Oh,

on a mofe.

Go on."

I reckon.

It's all slow down.

Horse pulls up to literally last minute,

like the horse pulls up and we're going past it.

And the horse rider starts gesticulating.

Yeah.

It has slowed down.

It starts to like angry, it's slowed down.

And I started looking back and they're still

just telling people to slow down.

I was like, "Yeah, you pulled up to this road.

You are on the horse."

Also, there's fields everywhere.

Everywhere you could go and ride in.

People go, "Oh, well, I can't ride in those fields."

But you can't ride up to a 50 mile an hour

road where people are doing 50 miles an hour

and complain that they're doing 50 miles an hour.

When no one knew you were there anyway.

It's like going into a music gig with a book

and going, "Shh, excuse me, I'm trying to read here."

Or going in with your music on.

Going, "I just want to listen to this music.

Sorry."

And I'm here while you're playing your music.

Shout out.

Take your horse elsewhere to like a slow road.

I'm like a learner's girl or something.

You know what?

Like an industrial estate.

You know what?

Housing estate.

Perfect for a horse.

A new build.

Yeah.

I always look at new builds and go horses here.

If I'm in a new build, how's it going to stay?

I wake up in the morning and I hear horses

clapping around.

I would think it's the end of the world.

Do you know what happened to me?

This is on topic, but I've only just remembered it.

I woke up the other night.

You didn't.

Like one or two a.m.

the morning, early morning, late night.

Not lunchtime.

And I heard horse clapping.

What?

What?

And by the time I got to the window to see,

you know, it was a 50-year-old.

He

was going.

It was so foggy recently.

That is what scared

the living daylights out.

It was so foggy that I could

barely see my road.

But I know it.

I know clapping when I

hear it.

I was trying to think of what I could have

mistaken the clapping

for.

It's an unmistakable noise.

It was Ben's S2000 going

down the road with no oil, isn't it?

Someone was doing a

Monty Python sketch with a couple of coconuts.

I would assume it's frowned upon,

but maybe there's no law.

I bet there's lots of bullshit laws around

horses because

it's old.

Near us on my commute, we call it the bumpy

road, because

it's the most bumpy road.

I'm going waving his hand to slow down.

I'm doing maybe 35 on this road,

because I'm in a lowered E36.

I'm on the bumpy road.

And not a loud car.

The bumpy road is not kind to the E36.

So I'm not trying to do parried a car on it.

I'm at 35 and you're a quarter of a mile

going slow down, would you?

And it made me rage so much.

Maybe you could see with your bald tire and

knew you couldn't correct.

I wouldn't be driving with that.

I feel bad because I like animals.

48:00 Horse and Road Safety Discussion

I don't, you know, but just get your horse

out the way.

Take it as there are so many places to take a horse.

As far as I'm aware, I'm a horse expert.

I bet there's not.

There's not really.

Is there?

Because most fields.

They literally kept in massive fields.

Yeah, but I don't know if you can ride them

around in the fields where they live in.

Why not?

I don't know.

Well, it's like saying to you,

I'll go for a walk.

Man, you got to walk from your kitchen to your bed.

Where are they?

Where are they?

Where are they?

Vast expanses that you can just keep a car

in, but you can't drive it round in it.

Go out.

Where does this go?

Go out for a walk.

Yeah.

Have you seen a horse's field?

It's not like a back garden,

is it?

They're massive.

You've got a horse as a massive.

Maybe they're not that massive.

I think it's a new one.

But the horses you see on the road are they

absolutely galloping, gallivanting.

They're just clopping along.

You don't take it in a field.

You think you wouldn't even need to put shoes on them.

But how do they get from one field to the other?

They're going along the road.

You're just staying that field.

So you won't complain.

She can't complain.

Field, cows famously go to other fields.

Have you ever seen grasses walking with a cow?

Have you ever seen someone out on the cow on the street?

They move on discreetly, silently,

and out of the way.

Ben does live in Bristol.

So that's entirely possible.

Where are you still live?

My neighbour has got one of those.

Yeah, I'm moving cows all the time.

That's my station cow.

Where I lived as a child.

As a young child where I lived,

my mum would drop us at school.

The drive from our house to school.

If you left later in like a certain time,

you get stuck flat half now because they were

moving cows.

And their cows would trust the road.

They'd open one field.

They'd let them go and have,

they'd had to move the cows.

No, I was asking why is the cow crossroad?

Unstandable.

Right.

But

that's the same thing.

No, no, I don't believe it is.

And I believe that horses should have other

places to, you know, horse fields.

Sorry, if anyone can hear the rain,

it's just started World War III outside.

It's just been raining.

Yeah.

Yeah, go get the horse out of the road,

isn't it?

I think I might take it down the 50 road and

do it in the 60s.

What?

Like the wet zone or anything.

What?

Or the wet shoes on?

Maybe it's a road tune.

Yeah, no, they've got to do,

it's,

it's Sean, Sean from MSD Tuning from the

laptop going, right, give it some now in first.

To a pool now, Ben.

Now again, we should share the roads with horses.

We should all, and again, be considerate,

don't scare horses.

But I'll say if you are a horse,

a horseman, a horseman, be considerate and

take, just don't, don't go near noisy fast

roads if you don't, if expect,

if you don't want noisy fast things to happen.

You know what, I can usually get it,

but if you pull up to a 50 road,

that's on your head.

Yeah.

That's a crazy one.

Right.

And I could see the horse behind was starting

to, you know, like, whoa, when he,

when he does the, like the little,

like, yeah, kind of backwards entry where

they're just kind of like, they're just

getting angle on.

Yeah, they're getting lock on.

I'm about to, I'm going to go.

I make, there's a gap company that I've got for it.

You know, there's only one thing to do here

and it's not stay calm.

I think bolt.

I think bolt.

So yeah, horse, if you're any horse people

listening, explain.

I don't care what you've got to say.

Just go right around the field.

I've seen your fields.

They're massive.

If we had fields like that, I'd drive out there.

Yeah.

Also, can I hold on?

Surely we can drive in the horse fields.

If you're allowed on the road,

I get to come in and just do a little skid

and they should pay also things that I

remember you did in your F-10.

Well, I pulled up to, uh, we were on the way

to the Caffedy Machine.

And there was a little like,

uh, almost like a farm entrance type of,

it was like a rural road.

Not this would be a great place for a little photo.

Take a photo and then we'll just went into

the field and did a skid.

You have to turn around.

You're telling horses to get off the road

when you're in there.

There wasn't a horse in that field.

But yeah, 'cause you probably get a horse to

see that and go, "That's fair enough."

Yeah, nowhere else to go.

How else would you leave this field stupid?

Right.

Next up, Ben.

Yeah.

I'm a mentor's moment.

I've been looking forward to this.

We ordered the parts for it,

if you will.

The scroll, the apology letter and the official L.

A very quick backstory, please.

Ben.

Oh, I'll do it.

You give it because I won't be able to do it.

Benjamin made a bet with William.

I did.

This was at the tail end of last year when

we're coming back from Paris from an

unsuccessful trip to

52:17 Ben's Apology for the Yellow Clio Bet

buy a Fast and Furious car.

Perhaps successful.

No one knows.

Let's people on the internet keep saying we

definitely didn't win.

Yeah, keep going.

He'd go with that.

You made a bet that Benjamin,

the William would not buy a yellow Clio

November by the time he turned 31 to idiotic bet.

So we'll bought this clear.

So Will has bought this kind of...

Well, we have started new thing at TDC

because there can be a lot of bullying.

No.

Jay Paris is that a word?

Yeah.

Fogg based Jay Paris.

Okay.

Yeah.

Where basically things aren't let go.

I think this comes from.

And we need to let them go by having an

official scroll where we take...

I bought three of these.

Yes.

We can buy more of those more else.

And I bought an actual feather quill,

I think.

I'm written on it.

I rolled it back up right now.

If you're watching, you can see it.

If you're not.

Please, I'd like you to unsheathe your throat.

No, I'm going to give it to Will to read.

Okay.

If you hand it to me and then just as a decree,

like...

Would you like me to read it to you as the decree or...?

I quite like to read it because it is

addressed to me.

Now, one thing I must say is that...

I don't care.

Writing with a quill is a very difficult...

I know that...

It was time for the quill.

It was.

Yeah.

Surprisingly.

So the handwriting is shocking.

I can read it if you can't read it.

And it is a proper quill.

It wasn't.

It's not as long as you're over the feather on it.

I'm quite impressed by Ben, if I'm honest.

It was...

I spent probably 25 minutes writing this.

Don't, please.

Here we go.

Not very official about it.

No, not very official at me.

Just kind of walking into the key causes and lobbying.

Talk about how that's tied.

Not great.

So presentation Paul.

Yeah.

Hey.

Sad app.

No, that's tucked under.

Right.

Again.

So not very...

Paul, the coming of a king having to go.

No, no, just...

No, just put...

Once you've got...

Yeah.

And then it comes around.

Yeah.

And then it should just unsheat itself.

And move up the scroll.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good work, Will.

Here we go.

Here we go.

Will is...

Is revealing in the scroll.

Okay.

I'm going to have to roll it down a bit to

get to it.

No, I want to tell you that this was...

I wrote this.

There is it.

Okay.

I trust you.

No, you didn't.

You used chat to BT.

I didn't use chat to BT.

No.

I used chat to BT.

As a base.

To give me like an outline of how you would

write an apology letter.

Okay.

Officially.

As in like, this is what we want to say,

this is the middle bit.

The actual wording is on me.

Okay.

That's why it's shocking.

Balance of water used for your...

No.

I used it for the rough outline.

I wrote it.

No, that's fine.

Right.

We're starting off.

There is a colossal L on

top right.

Lovely.

My dearest William.

Nice.

I write to you with a sincere and humble apology.

And while I'm comfortable, I find myself

obliged to admit that I was entirely mistaken.

Indeed.

With perhaps too much confidence,

I waged that you would not purchase a liquid

yellow, clear RS 200.

I don't think we specified RS 200.

Just any clear.

Any clear.

Anyway.

Before the 40th of November,

2026, the date of my 32nd of birthday.

Thank you.

And a milestone which places you firmly

belong beyond your youth.

Thanks.

Now, I think when it starts to get a bit

silky that the apology starts to feel...

No, I wrote you the pleasure I wanted.

It starts to feel a little bit less like an apology.

Yeah, it is an apology.

No, this isn't nice.

I truly believed I was safe in making

such a claim.

Not because I doubted your taste,

but because

I underestimated your determination and your

willingness to

follow through on something so bold.

I can see the bet in full.

And

it now means that if there's a bet,

L, L, and it must

be written on a scroll.

Also, I want to make a point here.

We must write them like that,

formally.

It has to be formal.

Of course, of course.

Because that was really fun.

People will discover this and wonder what the

hell is going on.

Yeah.

They're going, what are they talking about?

All the old listeners.

What's going on?

Very sorry.

I was smashing my scroll off the mic.

Thank you very much for bearing with on that.

That is a well delivered L.

I didn't think you'd do it.

I didn't think you'd have the beans for it.

Good job, Ben.

Onto the next.

Onto the next.

Oh, the Ferrari Lucid.

The Ferrari Lucid.

The Ferrari Lucid.

Is that was it Lucid?

This is, I don't know.

I'm going to call it Luc.

This is, this is, this is Ferrari's first electric car.

Wow.

Yeah.

Who cares?

Anyway, it's not out yet.

And they haven't shown the car,

but they've shown the interior.

And the interior has been designed by none

other than Johnny I.

Steve Jobs.

I thought he was to do with rap.

Johnny I was the famous Apple designer who

did most of these stuff up until like the

last sort of, I think five or six years,

2019.

He's designed this interior.

And you can tell.

I mean, I want to say, I've actually watched

some videos on this and there are some quite

cool features.

For example, the key, you're the back of the key.

You take screenshot, if you get the breaks in

the paper, only acceleration.

That's the one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then every two years, the battery dies,

you have to get a new one.

The key goes sort of where the gear selector is there.

Right.

On the bottom, right.

If you're, if you're, if you're watching,

not watching, imagine a gear selector.

Is it over there?

Yeah.

And what happens with it is,

is the key is like a normal,

it's a Ferrari logo, like the full size of

the key, like on the wheels,

and it's yellow.

When you put it into that thing,

the yellowness of it disappears,

and it goes across to the gears,

like to just let you know you're ready to go.

Okay, sure, why not?

Like a cool little feature.

And then all of the materials are

like really high quality, and it's all very

well built for what I've seen in the videos,

but it looks like trash.

It does.

It looks like an apple.

It looks like, sorry.

Me and I see something fall from a tree and I

might as if you can.

The, the steering wheel I like,

I'm gonna, I'm gonna go out there.

I don't, I like the steering wheel.

It looks like an old school.

That is what an old 512 BB looks like.

And so does the, the dash thing,

but I draw your attention to this,

please.

Why is there a rev counter?

Yeah, no, that was, that was my next thing

was to be, I actually quite like the dials.

Yeah, they're very old school Ferrari,

but yeah, it's just not a petrol car,

is it?

So how are they gonna?

Although is that, because it goes up,

it goes up in odd numbers, because I can see

a four and then a five round theirs.

four?

Oh yeah, that's weird.

Is this some sort of vault?

Maybe, yeah.

The other thing I quite like in this teaser

press image, is that the car's doing 210

kilometres an hour, it's at the top of its

revs, if that is the revs.

And then we've got all sorts of details here

in G4, so, yeah, I don't like the pedals,

but I just like the idea that they,

if it was just a real photo,

just got to 210 and went, great photo for the promo.

Here we go, see if I can grab that one with

the old iPhone.

I'll make two points here.

(laughs) People unsuccessfully making a triangle.

(laughs)

Number one, that middle center screen thing,

that would be in for 10, usually.

Do you mean the iPad?

I think that middle bit is just a big bezel.

I don't know if that is a screen in the

middle, but it says Ferrari very dimly lit as

if it was a logo.

If that is the case, what are you thinking?

You've created five inches of space to put a

logo in the middle of your car.

Why is it got a bull bar under it?

Yeah, I was wondering that.

It looks like an old person's,

like shower rail.

And for getting out, you grab on that,

you pull the screen off.

I did see one cool thing I quite liked,

and it's because it's slightly fighter jetty,

is that I think it looked like it was on the

roof, 'cause I saw it next to an SOS switch,

is there's like a launch button.

It almost looks like something you might pull

or press or move, you have to do something funky with.

I feel like launch control.

Yeah, I think it said launch or something,

there was a fast word, but that looked quite cool.

Now, I'd like someone to tell me something.

While getting these photos up,

there's, I know that these are,

what do you call them?

Concepts.

Concepts, thank you so much.

Sand made concepts.

But they all seem to have this very similar look.

Now, have they said it's gonna be a saloonie wagons.

I think it is an SUV.

Okay, so they've kind of said it's Persang,

Purisangwa looking.

I don't know, I think so.

Okay.

Because all photos seem to look like that,

which for audio listeners, there is like a

render sort of thing of the car,

which just looks so bang average,

I can't imagine.

You could take the Ferrari logos off that and

tell me it was a cure.

What energy?

Yeah, or an energy.

The thing that I don't like about this is

that A, it looks like if a Ferrari made a taxi interior.

That's what it would be.

Yeah, fair.

And B, I can't imagine that what we're seeing

here inside a Ferrari, inside the shape of a car there.

Inside the frame.

Inside the shape of a car there gonna be.

It looks to me like a hatchback interior or something.

Are they indicators back on the steering wheel?

I thought we were done with that.

I don't know if they've, I don't know

anything about anything at all,

just doesn't work, basically.

And then I think the steering wheel looks

like something, it looks like a mid-2000s sim

racing steering wheel.

The one you would put over your legs.

So you're gonna go this far,

there's no feedback on it.

Ah, that's exactly what it is,

I've forgotten.

No, I've got it, I've got it,

I've got it, I've got it.

The, one thing I read was that,

so this is like a retro looking interior.

Which, what it's meant to be a steering wheel

is meant to be retro and ish,

London.

Oh, you're joking.

Okay, that's good.

(laughs)

The question is, why would you then have your

petrol powered dinosaur cars have a modern

interior with like, thick buttons that change

and then this interior in your electric

modern thing makes no sense at all.

The thing that the people who gotta buy it

are gonna be tech fiends who just want the word Ferrari.

Like when you bought back the testerosser

name, you could have put a retro interior in that.

Unless that's the, that was them feeling that out.

Like them feeling out this, do we go back to

this retro style and if people take up to it,

we change all of it over.

Yeah, I just don't, it just seems like no one

knows what's going on.

Not Ferrari.

They do still fit that.

What we said before, it's Disney.

They've gone, you know what everyone wants?

The Lion King.

Yeah.

Let's get the Lion King back.

This time it's C.G.I.

This time it's real.

This time it's there.

So everyone's like, "No."

Did you enjoy that?

No, because there already is a Lion King.

Were you confused that they weren't real

lines, if they like action?

No, but you can't let it do that.

It's not necessary.

Why have you made that?

And then you made it again.

And then you can, it's not, you don't need to

keep doing that.

1:03:27 Ferrari Lucid Electric Car Interior Critique

You don't need to keep going.

Oh, it looks like the old ones.

Something that, why didn't you do what you

were doing before?

Which was not copying things that were old.

I had no idea you were so passionate about

the Lion King.

No, no, it's such a wheels thing,

isn't it?

Like, for like, for like, for what I'm saying

is, is that Disney at a point,

like Ferrari, were the absolute business.

They were top dogs, you could not touch them,

you couldn't, they were building things,

obviously not perfect all the time,

but you couldn't get near a Ferrari for

however amount of time.

Right, that's fair.

And then you get to a point like what Disney

are now, where you don't have that,

doing that, they don't have that creative

spark anymore, where they can come up with

something absolutely groundbreaking,

so they go and make stuff that looks old.

Also, why are they making an electric car?

Because no one's gonna buy it.

Well the, what I thought about this Ferrari

though, so people, they'll still,

there are still, you know, real whoppers out there.

It's gonna be.

They've got a Ferrari badge on it,

I'll buy that.

It'll be 40 million pounds and a non-bike.

Footballers.

Do you know what, I bet it was,

I bet it was the result of the Perosang way.

No, I still don't know how you say it.

Doing much better than they expected.

I reckon that's what it's gonna do.

Did you do well?

Oh, I think, in Europe, I think they're doing

like, decently.

All right.

Do you see, it was a, Sam Ritz and like,

Fat Ice Race, someone doing a walk along,

and there's just like, 30 of them all parked

up on the side of the road.

Because, I bet you they thought,

right, no one's gonna buy, it's a SUV,

no, this is not what Ferrari is.

And they went, oh, well everyone wants this.

Okay.

This is interesting.

Same thing with Portia, Portia went out on a

limb with the Cayenne, hoping that it would

save you them and outsold everything.

Same with the Bentayga, same with the Coleman.

That's what people want.

That's what rich people with money go,

how can I waste this?

Oh, it's a badge that makes me look like I'm rich.

To be fair, yeah, I've just read it.

It was a massive success.

They were sold out until basically now.

So now, because there was, I think there was

a quote, I wanna say, maybe in the early days

of Creamy might've talked about this,

they said, an EV will be over my dead body

Ferrari, I think it was the CEO at the time,

where the mail ran it, sold it,

full electric, and it's an SUV.

(laughs) But the Purasangwaite is still a

V12, like, and it's still quite quick and

it's still somewhat interesting for what it is.

I mean, why would you then go--

Do they sell the V8s yet?

Is that a thing that they're doing yet?

Surely not.

'Cause that's what I wanna know.

I bet you that is what's selling now,

because I bet all of the early ones are the

V12s and then people go, "Oh yeah,

I should give you, I don't care about it."

Like, you can have it in like four in it.

As long as it's got a Ferrari badge,

I'll pay you 400 grand for it.

We're sad.

I should in, and Lamborghini is very

upsetting and sad, but you know--

But you know what?

I was thinking it makes,

not that that helps us because those cars go

off in money much quicker, but it makes the

old cars even more special.

Yeah.

There is a finite amount of good Ferraris.

There's no, and when I say good,

I'm no track man, so I don't know how good

the new one is, but to look at the feel of

it, that childhood feeling you get when you

see a Ferrari, that's gone for me.

I do not feel like saying a Ferrari now,

a new one.

There's no V8.

Oh, there's not, they never did that.

It says that there's rumors they might

facelift it in 2027, 2028 with a V8.

Oh, okay.

So it feels like that would make so much

sense to like, okay, you've,

all the people that couldn't get hold of the

V12, here's a cheaper V8, twin turbo one.

Also--

That's the same as the, whatever.

Then it's a direct comparison to a yours.

Yeah, exactly.

And then, you know, all the choppers are buying them.

But then I wonder if that's brave why they

didn't want to do the V8.

'Cause then they can do the Ferrari thing

when they go.

(laughs) They're not even comparable.

We have a V12.

Yeah.

'Cause if they've done a--

Well, we got three old men wistfully talking

around a campfire about how bad things are these days.

That is how it feels, but I don't believe any other way.

I tried to think openly about that,

but I'm like, I still don't,

the best Ferraris have been made.

Heard it.

Not the fastest, but the best,

the ones that make you feel,

that make you balls tingle.

Well, yeah.

Next up, we have something we spoke about in

the car briefly.

Is Track Corner Names.

Now, they are, do you know what,

slightly inspired by listening to "Rock Dogs"

by God instead of a podcast or a multiple

where they were talking about a guide to the

Nurburgring, basically.

Shout out "Rock Dogs" and we realized that,

let's say maybe the Nurburgring 'cause

they're German names.

Yeah.

But maybe UK ones.

Corners have names in this country,

but they always have, there's gonna be one of

those corners that has some bullshit name.

They've always got nature names.

And they all have a history,

they'll have this, but we're coming up there.

I can't wait to know too.

with bullshit ones, but they're,

what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna test you.

I have, I've come up with--

A cold corner.

Asshole.

Asshole.

Bonn, there is palm hole.

Yeah, that's me.

I laughed at bomb hole at a track day once.

I can't, it's an editor now,

I think.

And people looked at me as if I was mental.

It says bomb hole.

Why is that funny, bro?

Oh, bum hole.

I know.

These are actual names for corners.

Most of them are for the UK.

Yeah.

Now, I know that there's gonna be multiple

people going, I have, mate, the Scrum

Bidgets, of course I know that corner.

That's where John Serti's overtook Henry

Catchpole in 1992.

No, same sort of era.

The bus stop.

Now that's not, he can't be having that,

he's coming hard.

That's land out.

It is land out, right?

The bus stop.

It's not a good corner now.

Why is it called the bus stop?

'Cause what it is, it's just a little left,

right, left on what it would otherwise be a straight.

I guess what buses do.

Famously is what buses do.

They come into the chicane and just cook.

I guess buses do pull in,

I'm going through that.

We've got Chris Curv.

No, where's Chris Curv?

I don't actually know.

Where is Chris Curv?

It wasn't even worthy of the surname.

It's Cadwell.

Cadwell's got Chris Curv.

Now some of these are ones that people have

just over time given it where it's not

necessarily the official name.

But yeah, no, that is Chris Curv.

I'm going through Chris.

No, that is Chris Curv.

Same thing around Chris.

I'm haring around Chris.

You wanna be laying on the brakes into Chris.

This is where the origin of the conversation

came in that it's at times, especially when

you don't know tracks insufferable to hear

when people go, mate, when I came left into

Chopits, I was like Chopits.

I had the back coming out.

Were you trail-breaking through there?

I was trail-breaking through there,

which set me lovely up into Flower Chief,

and that was really nice.

Flower Potts was looking fantastic.

Let it settle through Screeve,

and then just push through and look at the

signs directly ahead.

As you come through the bends,

just don't worry about it, just go straight through them.

Through the Rogers, and then off you go.

I like the sounds they just call it like the

S's, because that's what it looks like.

Yeah, no name for that.

No, that's the S's.

We've got Peel Bend.

Oh, Peel Bend?

P-E-E-L?

Correct.

Okay.

We've got the gravity cavity.

Gravity cavity.

No, that's great.

The leave that, I believe that's an American thing.

Hold on.

The gravity cavity.

That's fantastic.

Cork Screw.

A little bit down on us.

Cork Screw is relatively, do you know what?

Not really a cork screw.

A cork screw?