0:00 / 1:25:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin

Brake Pad Tax, Ben's New Daily And Too Many Inches? - C.R.E.A.M. #68

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Transcript

  • Edwin
  • Will
  • Ben

0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin

Pulling out of planes, right?

You might occasionally actually cut someone up.

I'd rather be into guard men than cars.

So that was a, I don't know what that is,

12 inch, 13 inch.

8 or 9 inch?

Okay, so let's say around 10 inches.

That's too big.

Hello and welcome back to the cream podcast.

The Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast

with myself, Will, Edwin to my right and Ben

behind the camera.

Hello.

Now at the beginning of every single podcast,

we ask ourselves, do Cars Rule or Ruin our

lives this week, Edwin?

It's, I think it's gonna be a rule.

Okay.

I still

don't have an engine in the Clio.

That's something we started today,

but I have the new engine.

It's, we put most of it together.

It's looking nice.

I'm excited to drive it.

My friend dropped off his Clio 200,

which we'll get onto in a minute.

He's 200 for me to please sell for him.

So if you're in the market for a very rare

Clio 200 Silveston edition, get at me soon.

I'll be, I'll have that.

And I was driving that around.

I love it.

And I was excited and I liked that.

So overall, it's pretty okay for me.

I have made a decision though.

It's become too late for the Ranger of a

classic for this, for this year with what?

No, it will come back in next Christmas.

If that makes it like a winter.

It's now past the point where I wanted it as

a winter daily.

Now I want it for next winter,

but I'm now no longer looking as actively

before it was every day.

No.

You need to start looking in September.

Exactly.

If you keep doing this, you go to the winter

and then you need a daily.

If one comes up at some point in the year,

I will look at it and buy it,

but I'm no longer every night on every forum.

Are you ever saying this?

So people stop saying you blew one.

Please stop doing it, man.

It's so

annoying.

This always goes for the 99% of Creamers are,

they get it, they understand it.

But there's just this 1% of people that don't

listen, that just don't listen.

But I am selling a micro.

Oh, I've just found this green one.

Oh, I've just found this red one.

Brother, I don't care.

I don't know if you know, but a brand new

range of us, like 120 pounds.

I actually had someone, someone sent me a P38.

What are you doing, man?

I appreciate all of you helping.

But the thing I've said, we've said before,

is that if it's on the internet,

Will and I've seen it, Ben will tell you,

every moment that the camera isn't rolling,

I'm online looking at things.

I'm not online.

You can't out-find us.

We'll find something, we'll get to that.

Mirror signal maneuver before you send the message.

But just think, shout out, appreciate that.

Just start, just starting off the podcast with everyone.

I thought I was in this podcast.

Go on, Monos.

But no, rule for me, will you?

Ah, I have reasons to ruin.

But I'm going to go with a rule.

Okay.

Because, well, I don't really know why.

I know there is a yellow reason why.

Yeah, two yellow reasons.

Why?

The glardo is back and fixed and actually

working after some warranty work that cost

Β£2,000, but didn't cost me Β£2,000,

but it would have done.

And there is a, you did some work on the

glardo, didn't you?

I did put a head unit in it.

Nice.

What else did I do to it?

No, that was it.

Yeah, I put a head unit in it,

which is very nice.

It's only a simple thing, but even on that,

I was a bit scared.

I pulled it out and I was like,

if I drop this, it's like a bomb.

Oh, if I drop this, it's going to chip the,

like the bash and then I'm in,

I'm just going to drive it into a wall.

But it all went very smoothly.

That's very good.

And then a wee French yellow color arrived

today on a trailer that doesn't start.

And I'm very excited about that.

So the, the bit I had with, with Ben is now sealed.

Is it in your name?

It's not, not yet actually.

The V5 is just in there.

Okay.

But it's here.

And I've paid the money and,

you know, V5 not actually legal.

Pro for the owner.

I just wanted to be five.

I'll write the letter.

So next week, we'll get a little official.

Yeah, next week, we'll get a little apology

letter, right?

I'll, I'll, I'll throw out to get a few at some point.

A little official.

Times, I need it written.

Fine.

I'll even get you a pen.

Okay.

If you get me like a proper fountain pen,

I'll throw it for you.

Yeah.

I've had a look around that car.

It's good.

It's going to need some bits,

100%.

I think it needs a can belt and what else.

It was quite funny when you got in it to get

off the trailer, click the start button.

It just went.

And that was it.

No, it doesn't even attempt to start.

What was worrying was it was like,

Oh, it will need a starter motor.

And I looked through the paperwork.

It has had.

How many would you like four starter motors?

So it does need a starter motor.

That's true.

Sure.

But I also need to investigate why the

starter motors keep dying.

You can't take away the fact it just needs one.

It does need one.

But if it keeps needing what it's not,

it's not like Ben putting oil in the car.

You know, you can't just do it every week.

It's had a reductive amount of starter motors

added to it.

But still I'm excited.

It looks true.

I've only seen it in the dark,

but it looks like.

It didn't look nice.

It looks pretty good.

I'm excited.

Now Ben, I hate to say something,

but I own a Clio and will owns a Clio and you don't.

I can't then.

Yeah, it's true.

It's just a time.

But you could break the car.

I don't want to.

Because then if I break the curse,

we don't know what will happen.

No, but do you not think that everything

would be so up right now?

If you were to get a Clio, you don't know.

Also, we have two broken Clios.

That

5:10 Discussion on Ben's New Car Purchase

leaves space for a working one for you.

And that was up.

Our luck would be up.

And then they'd all work.

But I'll probably break it myself.

Because we've said before that back at Carter

at all, when it was Will and I and then our

manager, Jake, the rule was all three of us

could never have a working car together.

One of them always had to be down.

That's maybe what it'll become.

I would like a 197 or a 200.

Hey, that's, that's good.

I've got, it's not that.

I've got, it's not necessarily an additional.

It's really rare.

I can't afford that.

But I would like, I'd like that.

I think I'm done with 182s for now.

I think I've done that.

But I'd go a little bit newer.

Ben's a 200T type man.

Yeah, a little flappy puddles.

Yeah.

Isn't that nice?

Yeah.

No, five doors, lovely pentacles.

Over to you.

What is it for you?

It's a big rule for me, actually.

Oh, why is that me?

My daily is sat directly behind you.

If you're, if you're watching,

that's the one, not listening.

Well, both.

You can watch me, your eyes on YouTube or

Spotify or whatever you want.

They've got just a picture on us muted.

Yeah.

You can see silent movie.

You can see my daily behind you.

It's a Golf GTD.

Now we were.

No one knew it was a Golf GTD.

No one knew it.

No one knew it.

We kept that pretty secret.

What a surprise.

And viewers, viewers will notice the null

plate on the car.

It's different.

It's Benjamin's not my plate.

You've privatized it.

I have.

I have.

Yeah.

That's my plate.

No.

How about would you like to walk us through

what happened after the video?

I can't remember.

What happened after the video?

Well, no, the debacle that's been going on

for the last week with this car.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

So part of the video was very kindly these

guys said that because they bought a car with

absolutely no history whatsoever.

They said some none.

They had a service at 36,000.

And you went and you went to Volkswagen when

they got you something, maybe.

But they?

Yeah.

They said 36,000 miles.

Yeah.

They had one service at 36,000 miles.

Okay.

Fine.

More than enough.

You only said beforehand because the car didn't have.

If you've seen the video, you'll notice that

because the car didn't have any history.

You guys said, we'll get a DSG service for

you and we'll get the camber done.

And that's been done.

You had it done in last week.

It was great.

So I've had.

By a speckey list.

Specialists did it.

So it's full DSG service, camber,

war pump, war pump.

They didn't do it.

They didn't have to do it.

And then I had this issue.

I came back from the podcast and I just

couldn't get warm.

I thought I might ill or something.

I can't get warm in my car.

The heater doesn't work or it didn't work,

which was odd.

So I said, I looked at some research and

there's a couple of things it could be,

you know, it could be perhaps a thermostat.

It's a little thermostat.

Fine.

And it does take a while to get up to temperature.

They're doing a water pump.

Easy.

So I said, cool, sounds good.

Guy called me after he checked out and he

said, yeah, I've diagnosed it.

It's just the worst case scenario.

Not the worst case, but for the price.

Yeah, it could be.

Yeah.

But in terms of the common issues that would

cause that, it's the worst one,

which is that the heat metrics,

which is done tough, done for.

So I have that done as well.

So that was nice.

Expensive week.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It helped the water pump.

The contribution helps bring the build out,

but it was a a big old bell I wasn't expecting,

but...

But you're happy.

Now it's sorted.

We need to put the brakes on still.

We haven't done that.

Yeah, we need to do a break.

And we can do that.

I need to do the brakes.

We can help.

We will certainly be there.

But we can just keep an eye out for you and

just sell it.

Yeah, those are brakes.

You should keep doing that.

And it's still stopping?

Yep.

No more headlights working.

I want to change the other headlight though,

because they don't quite match color-wise.

It's annoying me.

And am I in a battery?

He's giving some symptoms of needing...

All-you-glade plugs, so.

Yeah.

Yeah, but it's quite inconsistent.

But that was a...

It does it on a somewhat warm start,

right?

Yeah.

Would you think go plugs?

Yeah, that's what they're called,

right?

Go plugs.

They make you go.

It's completely spark plugs.

Yeah, true, it does.

Because I've been doing a lot of times.

Maybe I would try any battery.

It's a relatively...

We've experienced it in the past.

Weka battery and things.

And it like bent rods, dodgy timing.

I should have done that in my 172.

From the research I've done,

a lot of the symptoms have for it is battery.

Because it's not that the battery's dead,

it's just getting low.

And it has a thing where I don't know what's called...

Cold, cranking amps.

Yeah, basically, it doesn't actually turn

over, but it won't actually put any fuel in

the engine until it has a certain amount of ambience.

It's cranking.

It's a bit tired.

Yeah.

But it doesn't...

Because I've been doing it on the weekend a lot of...

It's got every morning goes,

sorry, two hours.

Which is two hours to ready.

No, I'm going to bed.

Over the weekend, I was doing a lot of smaller journeys.

So it would do...

I'd be getting out of the car,

going through the shops, coming

9:25 Dream Garage Setup and Track Cars

out.

So I turned it on and off, very described as

small journey.

No one saying it is, and I turned it on.

I'm going off my shop, I come back out.

I did a lot of like a longer half an hour

drive, go out, and I did like a 10-minute drive.

And all of that, none of that affects it.

It just randomly takes a while to crank sometimes.

So who knows.

But there is a photo I've given you to put on the screen.

Sure, because this to me is faked.

This is a photo.

That's it.

This is a photo of a Christmas menses in family.

Yep.

And there was this lovely Golf GTD parked at this place.

And my dad said to me, he went,

"That'll be a great two car garage.

So I'll park next to it."

And I thought, "You know what?

Snap a little photo."

Was just to see how it sits.

You're a Gen Z, what is it called?

No, not Gen Z.

Manifestization.

I remember thinking I was like,

"I'll just get a photo of that because it

looks like a great two car garage."

Lo and behold, that's what I've now got.

There is.

Now what's the perfect three car garage?

That and...

An SD-1000 with some oil in it.

I didn't do what?

And an oil tanker.

A track car.

What's a track car?

Is it clear?

Probably clear, actually.

I think you need something big turbo in there.

A turbo track car.

Or a turbo like with words.

This is like...

You make it, you go out a bit scary,

that.

SD-1000 is your NA.

I'm really revving through.

I'm really just getting into the red line.

But if you're just quiet for the track,

then the GTD is your ring car.

Is it there?

Yeah, for no bug ring.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I'm having another car in here.

I'm going two at a time.

We had a discussion earlier and we said,

Will and I said, "I want lots of bug ring

trip this year."

And then we said to Ben, "Ben,

are you coming with SD-1000?"

"Yeah, I'll come with."

And we said, "I think you don't go around the red line."

And Ben didn't even hesitate.

He said, "No, I know, probably not."

No, I said, no, I said.

So you'll drive it all the way to Germany?

No, that's not what I said.

I just parked it up in the car.

I said to you, I met Ed, and this stuff is just fair.

I said to you, I would drive it there.

I'd enjoy the road trip.

And then when we get there, it would depend

on the weather.

If it's raining, I

would not take on that because of an instant.

I've only done one driving, one drive on the red line.

And I feel like I've been robbed because it

was like my first, your first one is like

that, that bars of like, it's amazing.

Whereas I don't get as much desire to go back

because I haven't experienced it properly.

Like a proper Nurburgring trip.

So I think that needs to happen this year.

I mean, no, I wouldn't go.

Cream Nurburgring trip.

Cream Nurburgring trip.

We get all of the creamers.

Every Creamer has some rubber cream.

Lovely, new old Creamers in Australia.

I need drive.

But so overall, it's a real,

overall big rule.

It should be soared now.

Lovely.

Touchwood.

But it's been working.

Tune in next week when Benjamin has a broken baby.

No, I'm not done.

No, no.

Bend the chair.

Oh, a little side note.

I will mention this, Ben.

You've meforgotten it already.

Your little P-brain.

Ben was checking the oil on his skull.

Ben, it was a little bit low.

It was a little bit low.

We do think it's because we check the,

we put, it's got like 4.87 or 4.8 litres.

We check, we put 4.2 in.

So it's fine.

Ben, I have a quote here from you.

Put this in the chat.

What is this?

This is a little, a little while ago.

I have my notes app and saw it in there.

Now I think this is from, this is from the S2000 debacle.

It's a quote from you and I'd like you to

back this up.

Sure.

And then also I'd like you to justify this.

You said, you know what?

This is all bullshit.

I'd rather be into gardening than cars.

Do you stand by that?

Not gardening, but other hobbies that are better,

yeah.

At the time, you said I'd rather be into

gardening than cars.

It's an affliction.

Yeah.

Like, we've actually had this conversation before.

I think there's worse afflictions.

Yeah, like drugs.

Yeah, like that.

But what I mean is that

13:08 Ben's Car Affliction Discussion

you're into cars.

Oh God.

The issue is that multiple times I've been

like, no, I could have just a boring car.

Like to be fair, I mean, I think GDD is a

little bit one up from like a base normal

goal, obviously, in terms of like,

interestingness.

Yeah, by default.

Yeah, kind of how it's marketed,

I guess.

But it's somewhat interesting,

but it's not, if you had it as your only car,

you wouldn't, you're not taking it for a

quick blast on the B routes,

are you?

So I could, I feel like I could have that,

but also then I, then we come and do this

sort of thing, or I see a loud car,

I'm like, I know what.

Do you think if you didn't work in this

arena, this, this place that you would not be

as, because that's normally the thing,

you could get sucked back into normality and

also go back to normal?

But you would, I've

asked completely wiped my brain thinking of

that joke

instead, but because you're not around it,

you don't, you don't care about it.

When you come in and you see someone's got a

cool, someone cool car arrived or someone

made something look cool, or it sounds cool,

or you go out on a car, you go,

I want a piece of that.

I don't know.

I

think you'd be like, I think you'd be GTD,

you'd be solo GTD.

You'd be like, I didn't want the baseball

thing, I wanted

it something interesting, but I can't be bothered.

I'm

probably still go to places and look at cars

by ownership

of stuff.

We have access to cars.

The ability to make our cars nice and fix

them more easily than the average cars.

We're very lucky because we have sponsors and stuff.

And mess them up.

Oh, yeah.

More clear next door.

So that one was put me off, not being able to

do that as easily.

But I like what we do, I'm pretty happy.

You're about to fire me, what's going on?

I feel like...

No, no, I'm saying I reckon it is interesting.

It's probably partly because of us that we

bully you into buying and buying cars.

You literally, you said, you stated so

confidently, so loudly, I'd rather be into

gardening than cars.

You chose gardening.

Yeah.

Like gardening, you're not like your home breaks.

You know what I'm trying to say.

I've got to send my hoe to the bedroom.

So easy to make.

My trowel has broken.

My rake has broken a prong.

Bloody hell, I've got my project rake over this today.

There's never been a time, there's never been

a time where somebody's gone wrong with cars

and I've after you.

Point back in, I haven't actually gone,

you know, I'm glad I didn't give up.

Just when I thought I was out.

Okay, cool.

No, we will stay very briefly on the GTD

subject on Ben's daily subject because

something I'm itching to hear about this.

Edwin, you put him here.

Clown GTD man strikes again.

And you wouldn't tell me about it earlier.

I'm desperate to hear.

That's not gonna be me.

That was just me reminding Ben to be on the

podcast today.

When we, Ben, you've now seen the footage,

the white golf GTD that we went to look at.

The one with the wet boot.

Did we fully, I think we might have

deliberately not talked too much about it on

the one before, but basically the car had all

sorts of issues.

It had decent servicing history,

but the boot was absolutely full of water.

There was rust and stone chips all over it,

needed front brakes.

There was all sorts of other little issues.

And we said to the guy, look,

I understand that you're a dealer,

we weren't trying to be dickheads about anything.

We said, I think some money needs to come off here.

And he said, absolutely not.

He was quite aggressive with us,

not a penny.

He was like, no, I don't even care about five pounds.

And then Flex thought about the fact that he

makes 100 grand.

That was him.

That was him.

Wow.

I don't need this.

This is a side thing.

I make 100 grand a year in something.

And then Will did hit him with something

quite funny, which was call me if you change your mind.

And Will said, we won't.

But anyway, I'm sitting at home a

couple of days ago, and I get a call from an

unknown number.

I love picking up on my number cause.

I just like, I don't know why I think I love it.

And so mainly because it means sometimes I

can argue with someone, which is fun.

But anyway, pick up the phone.

This guy, and he goes, well,

it's someone.

And I go, I'll work for this dealership.

You came and looked at a golf last week.

Doesn't narrow it down for us.

Looked at about 20.

Did you leave a set of Audi keys in a car?

Is anybody lost some keys?

And I was like, not that I can think of,

which car was it?

And he went, the golf that you came to look at.

And I, again, immediately annoyed me.

So I said, okay, I looked at quite a few.

So like, which one was it?

And he went, oh, the white one,

the one you lowballed me on.

And I went, oh, the one with a boot full of

water that was rusty.

And he went, yeah, that's the one.

I went, oh, no, I don't think that's us.

Anyway, good luck with selling the car.

And he went, yeah, and then it was about to

say something.

And then he put the phone down,

he went, yeah, and then put the phone down.

So I don't know if that was someone with him.

He was like, no, just leave it,

leave it, he's not worth it.

He's not worth it.

I was praying that it was going to be him

going, I'll do no deal.

That would have been absolutely perfect

because he was so, he was the one that we

mentioned, we mentioned about the curb wheels

thing, although they're down the wheels.

He was obsessed with the fact that he

refurbishes the

wheels on all the cars.

Despite the fact that there are far

more important parts of cars than the wheels.

Look at all my other cars that have really fun wheels.

I

don't care.

It's

a slog to get through.

How could this be my fault?

I don't care who's fault.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't want to get a crash.

No, it's someone bumps into the golf and you

get a little bit of a set.

Here's my...

Here's my question a

minute.

You crash.

It is your fault.

Right.

Just, you know, put yourself in...

Yeah.

In your shoes.

How soon after the crash are we talking

milliseconds, seconds, minutes that you

think, "Oh God, I have to tell them about this."

Like they're going to find out about this.

I'm pretty numb to these days.

I think about it in the, I reckon,

definitely the first half an hour.

Maybe, before that, 15 minutes.

More recent, if it's your fault.

No, it's your fault.

You understand it into a hedge.

Yeah.

I think it's the first thing you think of.

Doing something dumb, it would be up there,

yeah.

If it was straight away, you just go,

"Oh."

Before it's actually happened.

Yeah.

You're just going into going,

"No, no!"

I did think that during the redacted S2000

instant, as well as the S2000.

That was the first thing.

Obviously, we won't go into it because

obviously it's ridiculous.

We can't, we're not.

Yeah, it's all blocked out.

21:00 Brake Pad Taxation and Emissions Regulations

confidential.

But it was one of the first things I thought,

which was the Edwin's watching me as we speak.

He's

directly behind me.

Okay.

So that's good fun, isn't it,

everyone?

Thanks for that.

I'm sorry, it burns a bit.

It

burns a bit.

It burns a bit.

It burns a

bit.

You're a seven emissions, which is the newest

emissions regulations.

What does that mean?

All new cars have to do to be able to be on the road.

Basically, it means there are a certain level

of clean to be on the road.

Currently, you're a six, it has been for 10 years.

From November of this year, it's your seven.

And that's all new cars.

All new cars have to comply.

Now, do you know what it's meant to are?

This is the reason I brought it up.

Obviously, right now, it's emissions.

It's your CO2, your knocks.

Now, it's about even things like brake pads,

pads and brake dust.

They're measuring what comes off your car entirely.

So I have a certain amount of wear.

People with track pads?

No, no, no, no, no.

That's not having the wheels that collect the dust.

So you can't like the car again.

That's part of it.

They're testing.

It's all everything that comes off the car.

They're testing.

What?

Yeah.

So how?

I don't know.

This is what I read.

I guess there's not much else that comes out

of the rubber.

Yeah, rubber and then heat from the engine.

I guess it would be heat that makes things come off.

on the road, government.

That's water.

That's condensation.

That is something money.

That's that water come from you or

your car?

I bless myself.

Where's that water come from?

You

owe us for that.

I just don't mind.

It's the one before me.

I'm honest.

I don't even have AC.

Please.

AC leaks right

now going through the roof.

My house comes out of the car.

Farting.

Right.

Charge me for that?

It might be.

You fart and you open the door and the

government's there going.

Put that back in, bigger.

No, no, no, you are smiling on that.

That's a bad one.

I just felt it, dealt it though.

So now it includes electric vehicles as well.

Meaning like as

tires and brakes and that sort of thing.

So is that just

for electric vehicles or it's all everything,

but electric

vehicles now, obviously, electric vehicles

are just taxed.

They've just found a way to work out a way to

tax electric vehicles as well.

Now, all cars, it's just, if you want to get

a new car, it has to have, it also has to say

that you have to have electric vehicles as

standard to introduce minimum performance

requirements for battery longevity,

80% of health after five years or 100,000 kilometers.

Vehicles must maintain this compliance.

So if you'll call it old, it must maintain it

for 200,000 kilometers or 10 years.

So if I hate that all 10 years,

well, it's just not, no one's getting to 200,

10 years, no one's doing it.

It has to be Euro seven and it has to now,

I don't know how

they test for that though, but it has to now be rated.

That is now I think they have to,

I assume it's for the

manufacturers when they initially produced the car.

25:00 Brabham BT92 Overview

Unless it's the way the car works to wear them down.

So if the braking system has to work in a

specific way so it doesn't wear the pads down.

Because it's cars with brakes getting really

bad, because they don't want to use it.

Like brand new cars with just like tiny

little one-pot brakes.

That's good for us.

California, would try to bring costs down.

Yeah, no, that just sounds dumb.

Yep, to me.

I'm sure someone's thought about it somewhere.

Someone knows something.

Someone said, well, I don't actually know if they did.

onto far less boring topics.

That was quite interesting, I thought.

It was a topic up for discussion.

Say your next thing, if better be the most I

might have been thrilled by this.

You actually should be.

Go on.

But seeing as your garden, I'm more than your car person.

Do it.

This is the Brabham BT92.

Show me.

And it came out in 2008.

Now, Ben, this is the equivalent to you

seeing a tulip on a beautiful,

subtle, subtle morning.

As a gardener, you go bar, then someone took that.

got the tulip when it was like made,

when it was invented, and they went,

put steroids in that tulip.

So the E9-2 M3, well known, 40 V8,

high revving, bloody bloody blah,

you kind of know what it is.

And there's been modified versions,

people have supercharged them,

people have got some more power out of them in A.

But in 2008, Brabham, Brabham as in the race car.

I didn't know they did anything else other

than, I think they do some like actual race

cars of their own, but not tuning cars.

So they took any 92, when it was brand new,

but a carbon fiber, that is a carbon fiber

body kit, it's not just stuck on fiberglass and stuff.

And made 500 horsepower.

NA.

What?

Out of the engine.

So I think it's like cams and a few other bits.

And it baffled me when I saw it,

how that, 'cause I saw it on Instagram,

I think it was on, it might be Bimmer tips or

one of those top pages.

And it baffled me that I never heard of it.

Never in my life.

'Cause it came out when the E92 was new.

Yeah.

That is an aggressive, how much?

How much that?

In 2000, I think $2.09 is when I saw the price.

I'm gonna say it was a 120,000 euro.

Okay.

Okay, it's more than that.

You know, it's 250,000 pounds.

Oh, God.

Which, a just for inflation is gonna be more.

I can't be far off.

400 and something grand.

Do you want me to find out?

Yeah.

Do that.

But I mean, it's, yeah, just nuts.

Like an unbelievable amount of engine work,

a carbon fiber.

So, there's a lot of mad stuff in there,

but I don't think it was received very well.

No, I've, well, seen you've never heard of one ever.

I think not many people bought.

Just trying to find videos of like how they sound.

They don't sound that, you sound like any

actor in turn three.

I would be, 508 horsepower.

It's a 4.4.

It's like a GTS, but with

more power, like 80, 70 or 80 horsepower

more, 190 mile an hour, not 64 seconds.

I was, yeah, I've never heard of one.

412,000 pounds.

Woo, but apparently they're,

now, so the 500 horsepower figure was like

the, if you buy one, one, that's what you'll get.

The custom, the, the, the development cars,

I think this blue car is the one that they

said, hey, yeah, we buy one of these.

We could do this as 460.

Okay.

Which could just be a sort of slightly,

'cause obviously you can get,

I think you can get like 440 out of them with

cats and-- Oh, interesting.

So I wonder if that was-- It is a 4.4

apparently, but still.

So I wanna know, I wanna know if anyone who

knows anything is anything at all,

but also more, I don't know if you have an

engine-based picture on there.

It had a carbon air box.

Wow, but all the way back, it had a sort of

CSL style carbon air box and intake system

all the way back in '08.

Wow, that's meanwhile of all of a look at that.

All right.

Okay.

I would do that.

'Cause not here in the GTS got that.

Don't have an engine-based shot of it.

I can't remember, I saw it, but it does.

It definitely does.

And eight and a half thousand idea.

I found one out in the wild.

A grey one.

There is, so there's at least one that was sold.

I found one, it was it.

Yeah.

This is on auto despot.

I think I found a video somewhere,

but yeah, break, suspension,

everything.

The general consensus was it was just like

race car harsh for the road.

It wasn't necessary.

And everyone went, I think I'll just buy like

a normal one.

I think I'll take my 250,000 pounds elsewhere.

'Cause I mean, the M3 would have been what,

like 50K or probably like 60 or 70K like they went.

But for like 200 grand, you could not make it.

Also, I think it looks like ass.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

It's that rear arch is just,

there's wide body and then there's that.

It looks a little bit need for speed movie.

Yeah.

It's a bit of a carbon body kit.

It's not very nice still.

But I was annoyed me when I saw it because I

thought I should know about that.

You should, yeah, that's something you should

have at least seen it in passing.

I should at least see the picture and go,

I've seen that.

I know what that's something I've never seen

the photo before and I want to know how it's

eluded me all this time.

That's a long years.

That's a long years.

That's one of 18 years.

That's one of Will's quotes.

One of the hour context.

Exactly.

That is a long years.

Next up from you, Ben.

BMW have said, no one misses the I drive knob.

Yes.

the I drive knob.

We all know it.

It is all twiddly dial down by your hand,

your cup holder, in the 2000s,

they

start.

And mid to late 2000s.

And it's what you control the screen with.

And it's, and you know, it will agree.

Everyone in the room, everyone in the

creamers will agree.

It's the best way to operate the screen.

It's a good way.

It's the best way.

I'd say a touch screen is the best.

A touch screen is the best.

Yeah.

I think, well, I don't, a touch screen is

going to be better because you can just

choose the thing you need to do.

But then you can also do it.

I think I don't think an optimized interior

is having a screen as close to you.

Hold on.

Ben, you just said, but you have to look away.

You're telling me, like a safe cracker,

you can put your hand on the iDrive knob,

stare straight ahead and go.

No, but if I, if I know.

If I look over and glance and just go,

I'm going to say that the swivel along to.

So you just look, look, you looked across.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is I have to think

about like when my fingers going and,

and we'll actually press brother.

I'm just like twisting along.

Will guess me.

going to do it because it's never that,

it's not that simple.

It's always, you always have to do that.

You're not pressing something else.

Yeah, you can't type anything.

You can't do any of that.

Now, not all iDrive, iDrive,

iDrive knobs past the same.

The early iDrive, iDrive, iDrive,

iDrive, idriven.

They're not all built the same.

Early iDrive is CAC.

Yeah, it's, it's NAF.

It can't, it's, it's not to be used anymore.

It's for the past.

Then they updated it.

I think it was like 2009, 2010,

the CIC and then it got good.

because it started to make sense.

It worked like intuitively.

You would scroll one way to go down the menu,

scroll the other way to go out the menu.

You could flip left and right.

You had multiple screens.

It just worked.

Do you can it also, Ben?

Someone had to draw one on the top.

That was pointless.

Absolutely bullshit.

Stop doing that.

I hate when they do this.

A, typing should not be in cars at all.

That should be, you should only be allowed to

type when there's a passenger there.

The driver should not be allowed to type at all.

The whole, the whole, again,

like a safe, safe craft.

could go.

A, Z.

Stop, man.

I don't know what it is.

Maybe it's just because I was familiar with

that car, but that gen of I drive it just worked.

Even even a keyboard in that worked.

It didn't feel like a work to actually scroll

through it, because it would scroll through it quickly.

And after a while, if you'd drive in the car,

you would know where things are in the menu.

Yeah, you would have shortcuts to stuff and

whatever else on the steering wheel or on the bash.

So what is it they're saying?

What you say interests me, because I will

quote the man.

So the reason this came about is because the

new, I think it's an IX3.

It's the new class thing.

Without thinking we talked about one.

Weird shape thing.

That doesn't have it.

It's one of the they're they're phasing it

out for this new new series of cars.

I'm sorry.

I will say something.

Yes, go on.

I do believe that if there is a touch screen,

there should also be a button,

a non-touch screen button to navigate with.

No, that's fair.

So I drive should have that you should have a knob.

We all should.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to

touch a screen if you want.

I think we're all on the same page.

So this is from Stephen.

Stephen.

Don't know which one it is.

Just direct, which is

senior vice president of UI and UX

development at BMW.

So

should know what you're talking about,

Steve says, I quote, after using the

technology, not a single person has requested

that we return to physical dial.

Not one that has

to be a lie.

No, yeah, I agree with that because even even

dentists know you have to say that one of

them says, yeah, one of them does not

recommend the same.

Statistically, one of them hates that toothpaste.

Yeah.

It's got to be the same.

One out of those hundred test people goes,

I drive's pretty sick.

Like we have to admit, guys,

come on, that was quite nice.

It's quite pretty cool.

We have another one.

It's fine if the majority of you can't say

everyone feels a little bit like you are lying.

Like you're telling me that 0.01% of bacteria

is not there.

Yeah, it's there.

I was telling me if the three people in this

room can't agree, you're saying everyone

you've ever met is never safe.

Also, he's talking about he is the head of

34:03 BMW iDrive Knob Debate

design.

How many people are going to go to him and

go, I hate you.

Also, do great job.

It's amazing.

They're getting a focus group together.

Everyone in this focus group of people who

applied for new modern design stuff,

they seem to love this new modern design.

I know we're only paying them and getting

them nice lunches and stuff.

I was in an Uber recently.

Anyway, that's the podcast guys,

thanks for listening.

It was quite fortunate.

It ended up being a new 7 Series.

Wow, I was quite excited with the screen.

Hidious, yeah.

Hidious and ugly though it is.

Wow.

Yeah, nice.

Wow.

Most modern stuff where it's sort of flashing

lights and glitzy panels and stuff.

I'm not that wowed by, but that I got in.

You can't concentrate in that.

Did you?

There's just stuff you want to be on the screen?

I was in the front.

Oh, I was in the front.

That's great.

No, because there were three people in the back.

Okay, that's fine.

So, you went rimful.

And I told my dad about it.

he pointed it out because the screen folds up

and goes like above the head and he brought

it down and you can see the driver being

like, "Okay, there we go."

But the screen, I mean, unbelievable.

And you've got like touch screens in each door.

It's like phone size things,

you know, like in the sort of grab handle for

the sort of phone you could take in the grab

handle for the door where you have it.

It's like sat there and that's how you can

scroll through the menus on there.

And then in front with me, not only is the

handles, yeah, he was there.

(laughing) (laughing)

I liked me a lot.

When did

technology equal luxury?

When did that start?

Well, I think

'cause like S classes have always been like that.

But the

technology has not been about screens and

things and buttons.

It's been about things that make you feel nice.

But a lot of minds.

But a lot of minds, though.

Night vision.

Yeah, but that's, you can have that.

But it's just, it's people like a gadget.

But what I'm saying is I'm talking about designs.

Like I don't look at a screen and go,

whoa, money.

I don't feel more comfortable when I see a screen.

You could have, like an E38 has no screens in

it, but it's soft and comfy.

That's not the comfiest thing on earth.

But I just don't understand why this,

session with luxury, meaning it has to have

lots of screens and now lights.

And lights everywhere.

The lights in that seven series was obscene.

It was an actual nightclub.

I don't know if it was the, if it was the

driver with an absolutely stupendous,

smelling aftershave.

But I know that, that,

some of those modern binoculars have a,

they have a, like,

a sense of the sort of thing,

'cause it's smell.

It was

just, it was just a nightclub bathroom.

A light up panel.

It looks like something out of a space age.

It's not just ambient lighting.

It's like a full light up trim panel that

goes all the way around the panel.

Oh, I've seen that.

It's in the five series as well.

And when you, I don't know if it was the

hazards or the indicator.

I think it was just the hazards.

Open the door and you put the hazards on to

let us out.

And that flashed red.

I don't know.

So in the car.

In the car.

What is going on?

The car's like, we're going to panic you now.

Everything in the car will flesh.

It felt like the car had been locked on by a missile.

GTA.

I mean, I was impressed by it.

I definitely, 'cause it was also,

it's also unbelievable.

Unbelievably uncomfortable.

Unbelievably comfortable.

But I was just like, there's so much,

but there's so much going on.

It's just locked here.

All I wanted to do was, I was just going,

turn it all off.

Turn it all off.

Just get it over.

Gets home and turns the car off.

Oh God, that's better.

That's nice.

I would have like, screens need to get in the bin.

I would like a seat.

Not all screens.

All of the technology in a seat.

I'm with me when I'm trying to buy a cheaper golf.

Nice.

All of the technology in massage seats and

that sort of thing is great.

I love that.

Yeah.

But I don't, like when I have a TV in a car,

I just, I've got my phone.

Make it really comfortable.

Maybe not, don't be driving.

Make it really comfy if we just scroll reels

in the back.

You know what I mean?

I don't need some weird TV, it doesn't work

all the time.

I believe that they're, I don't know what it

is, that there is an optimal screen size out there.

'Cause I think the screen is nice.

You don't know what it is.

I think you need it because you like,

'cause we have now CarPlay and blah,

blah, blah.

So it is nice.

But there's an optimal size.

But what is that size?

So I look at my Range Rover size,

and I actually think he is a smidge too small.

I would agree, I agree with that.

But then if you go to the tablet thing that

was in Ben's old X5, I think that's too big.

I agree, it's not too big.

So there's some people listening for vlogast

who have no understanding of the size.

So that was a, I don't know what that is,

12 inch, 13 inch.

And then the screen was also like--

Yeah, so I think the screen was that big.

I totally say.

8 or 9 inch.

Do you think?

Yeah, it wasn't that big.

Okay, interesting.

There is an interesting noise.

I think, so let's say around 10 inches.

Ben, I think yours in this golf mark seven is too small.

But then if you get a mark 7.5 and the new

screen, perfect.

What size is that?

What size is that?

That's a 5.8 in there.

So I'm gonna say peak--

I think seven inches.

Just going off what the numbers we're reeling

off here, which I'll here say.

I'm gonna say eight inches.

I'm gonna say seven to eight.

I wanna see a 55 inch in there.

I wanna see the seven series for absolutely no reason.

I won a early 2000s plasma.

Okay.

So the image burns in.

But it's a fact TV.

Yeah, no.

One of those like rare projector TVs.

I want box TV.

I like one of the very little ones from the 90s.

So when you put your hand there,

it goes-- (laughing)

One of those ones is with a glass screen.

It's really thick glass.

It needs an aerial.

You have to have a--

I have a remote.

Gembla for no reason in the 80s.

Okay, so eight is a 10 inches.

So perhaps tell us your perfect screen size.

Sounds really like an Alan Partridge.

Don't say anything else, just put inches.

So that people who haven't yet listened to

this far podcast know what the hell.

YouTube and Spotify, look at it and go.

Okay, ban that.

Get rid of them.

Actually don't do that.

Monetize.

I'm going to get in paid this month.

No, you're not.

Ben, there's a section here that's raged from you.

I actually can't really say it.

It says

40:18 Motorway Driving Behavior and Safety

rainy motorway.

People.

It starts with people.

Yes, people.

This was actually about a week ago now.

That one song, that one.

Oh God.

Bit delirious to me.

What am I thinking about?

I was driving on the motorway in the rain,

in my nice new golf.

No fog.

No fog on this day.

You could see.

Very rainy, no heat.

My boot was probably filling up with water.

Of course.

It's a Mark 7 Golf.

As it was.

And I was driving.

I realized people lose all ability to think

in the rain.

It's amazing.

It becomes a carnage.

It's actually amazing.

It is raining.

Yeah.

Okay, the road exists in the same layout.

We're all driving to work.

We do it every day.

Also, if we lived in sub-Saharan Africa,

where rain is an incredible sight.

Yeah, to see.

I get it, but it's England.

Guys.

Well, it's rains in October.

We're all aware of this now.

So what was really annoying me is that,

okay, so pulling out of lanes,

right?

You might occasionally actually cut someone up.

Okay, it depends on something to it.

And I might crash it.

I accidentally cause a multi-car pilot.

We've all been there.

Guys, we've all been there.

No, and I can forgive you pulling out in

front of me, right?

I got radar guided cruise now.

It's fantastic.

A little flex.

Nice, I can just sit there and it works,

right?

The thing that annoys me is that in the dry,

people are quite considerate.

In the wet, people are just doing it six feet

from your bumper.

Yeah.

Why is it when they go right?

The conditions are worse.

The chance of death is higher.

I'm gonna be more risky.

I don't think they actually realise that though.

That's exactly it.

No, I don't think that either though.

They only realise it when there's ice,

and then they go the other way.

When it goes snow happens, they go,

"Right, now I'm being careful."

But rain, they go, "That's fine."

A bit of water, that'd be nothing.

But I was driving--

My tyres are only bald.

What's the point?

But the M4, I think it was the last Tuesday,

was just, it was just mental.

Everyone was cutting each other up and I was

like, "That's gonna be a crash."

Why is it that you've gone right,

dangerous?

We probably shouldn't be exceeding 70 here,

because we don't have to play in central reservation.

Let's just go eight, you're five and just cut

everyone up.

What's going on?

I don't have to do an emergency stop,

on the motorway in the rain.

So that's my rent.

Ben, can you all fully agree?

People, it's like, it feels like evidence of

there being an alien population on earth,

and water glitches them out for a minute.

They all go, "Ooh, this is not great."

It's NPCs.

It's actual GTA driving.

Someone's shot a gun at them,

and they will run, "Ooh!"

and start weaving it out of traffic.

(laughing)

It's smashed them up!

Okay, Rajon,

quite restrained Ben that.

Yeah, you know, considering the words you've

used here anyway.

What do they use?

It doesn't matter.

Starts with a P as well.

Was it P or is it C?

No, no.

I can't say that 'cause then everyone will

know what it is.

Oh, okay.

I've put in bullshit roadworks and temporary lights.

Okay.

This happened on the way to the unit,

not far from the unit, recently in the last

couple of weeks.

I remember this.

There were some temporary lights.

Now, temporary lights appear to be this time

of year, everywhere.

I cannot move more than a centimeter without

some orange people putting out cones and

fences and temporary lights.

And do you know what?

I can't, they work.

Yeah.

But when they don't work, the human brain

turns into the size of Ben's brain.

It goes, it goes P-size.

Yeah.

It goes real small.

I was at a set of temporary lights.

What a random straight a catch.

Well, you know when they're temporary lights

and you can't see the end.

So there is a risk attached.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you just probably fly through at 18,

aren't you?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

On your side of the road, just taking out all

of the--

Yeah.

Through the roadworks.

Yeah, exactly.

So then when you come back, okay.

(laughs)

You're the first person to stop at the red

light and I go, "You're welcome."

(laughs) And then I fixed it.

(laughs) But there was, I could see the other people.

So I've pulled up to these temporary lights.

There are maybe three or four cars in front of me.

And you can see the other people.

Right.

I don't know how long that light's been read for.

So hold on.

You're waiting.

And they're waiting.

They're waiting.

And I thought, I've pulled up to it.

So I thought, we must be in that no man's

land where they go.

Just pull a still coming through.

Swapping, yeah.

And I waited for a minute or two and there

was still no movement.

And after like, I don't know,

time seems to go on forever there.

And no one moved.

Nobody was moving.

There was nothing happening.

So I drove around and we went through it.

And I looked in my mirror.

So I couldn't see it for like another 30

seconds or so.

Still no one.

Nothing.

I think they're still there now.

Turns out it was a three-way one.

(laughing) Unfortunately, I know the road.

So I know that there's not gonna be that.

Yeah, I was just stunned.

The fact that the lights don't bloody work.

'Cause there's people there.

Well, I can go on it.

Builders just dig in a hole.

Right, fix your light or do something.

The builders, turn them all red.

It'd be funny to watch this.

(laughing)

I don't know what, that would be quite something.

So peaceful.

Yeah.

There's no one going past.

We could do what we like.

But it's just, I've had it multiple times.

Even like normal, there was a traffic light

in London ages ago.

And it would not turn green.

I vividly remember this.

And I just had to drive, I bibbed the horn

and this woman looked in her area mirror as

if I had strangled her.

baby in front of her.

She looked like, like, what are you doing?

I just drove around her eventually because it

was, again, it was a T-junction in London.

So you could see and you can tell if you've

been there for 10 minutes, do you really

think a red light is going to stick your stairs?

It's the rules of the road, basically.

These guys are going to go, then these guys

are going to go, and then they're going to go

again, and then these other guys are going to go in.

You're not going to get a choice in this.

You're going to wait.

It feels like people don't have the brain to

look at how that works.

You said, I can see they go,

then they go, then we go.

Sometimes it's like, a difference there,

or whatever, and this get going,

that side, then that side, then that side,

and this person just sat there.

Also, the worst thing is, you know that

that's what they're saying.

They're kind of going, this is ridiculous.

Fix it.

You do it.

Use your brain.

I know some people, they think that if they

go through it, they will be,

they will be struck down.

Police will turn up instantly,

kill your whole family, straight and prison.

You're off to prison, that's it.

100 years sentence.

Gone.

Yeah, if that's ever been you,

look, we all have mistakes.

But let's think, we have to put our brains in gear.

And they go through the red light.

I'm not saying go through red light,

but sometimes it's okay.

Cream endorses the red light.

Next, we have Ben, you, electric vehicles are

outselling ice.

I mean, at this time, yeah, I would have

thought ice isn't really something that I

couldn't be that much to mom.

I have to bought some ice.

To be fair, so do I, I'm an ice,

drink or do you make ice?

A bit of both.

I consume so much that I go through my homemade ice.

Oh, cause I don't like buying sacks of ice

because to get the ice, you have to smash the

sack of ice on the floor or something.

Yeah, okay.

And I don't like that noise.

That's the most wheeled thing.

Well, you smash it on the floor to not the floor.

I'll do it on the floor.

It's the best thing you do.

You pick it up like six, seven,

eight inches and you drop it on the floor off

the ground and then you drop it on the floor.

So what's your work surface made off?

What's your work surface made off?

I don't know, like, I don't know.

Fake.

What's it made off?

Solid, it's solid enough.

I've got the

nuclear tabletop this one there.

Yeah, so waterbed.

Is it,

is it wood?

I don't know, man.

It's probably MD.

I didn't build the place.

But what does it look like when you touch it?

I don't know if they've actually painted it.

It's just wood.

It's paint.

It's made out of paint.

Anyway, I have a wooden work surface.

If you drop the ice on it, it will damage the

work surface.

So what I do instead is I chuck it on the floor.

He slashes it off his marble floor instead.

I get one of my servants to come and break

his help from it.

Yeah, but I get this in my house and make it round.

The floor is fine.

Basically, what I do is I gently place it on

the floor and then I elbow drop it through.

I legit elbow dropped it once on the work surface.

I'm really mad about that.

A huge bruise.

Anyway, what we're talking about?

Electric vehicles are outside of ice.

Yeah, let me get that for you.

Absolutely random tangent there.

I went on a tangent there to help Ben.

I saw him research.

I don't know what.

Let's talk about my research and I haven't.

And he went, "Yeah, yeah.

So what's your work surface,

Ben?"

And then we cut up the fence phone.

It's just ice cubes, although he's Google

blood ice cube.

Okay, so the European marker,

well, the European car market.

First time ever, EVs have officially outsold

pure gasoline cars.

So in what aspect?

Just in general?

More units being sold.

We're talking hybrids up in that.

Because you're saying pure gasoline.

Yeah.

Which, and you know what, that's like,

that is, you're

kind of tooting your own horn here because

you banned them basically.

You can't say, right, you're all banned and

then turn around and go, "But yeah,

this is great.

We've got a

lot of numbers and I'm not going to win numbers."

So EVs,

in December 2025, EVs were 22.6% of the market share.

Okay.

Petro-only cars were 22.5%.

Wow, so a 7.7%.

Right.

And then we've got a whopping.

I've lost the number.

Where's it gone?

Hot thing.

Hybrid is 34.4%.

Wow.

I don't know what the rest is.

I feel like that is dumb.

We are missing a little bit there.

We're missing like 11% somewhere.

But essentially, if you look at it,

it is now

50:14 Electric Vehicle Sales Trends

hybrids are outselling, so everything.

So it's not entirely EVs, but EVs are now

more than in the rankings above Petro-only and deal-only.

The thing I want to know is it seems like

every week or every other week,

there's a flip side of a story that comes out.

One story comes out and it's like EVs are

selling great guys hotcakes.

And then the next week, it's like Porsche say

EVs was the wrong move.

We're backpedaling.

The next week comes out and it's like

Porsche's fully committed to fully EV.

What's going on?

Can someone just explain?

Who's like messing around with the data?

Yeah.

What is it?

What is actually happening?

I think synthetic fuel hybrids will be the future.

That's what we're going to have.

I think hybrids are kind of partially here today.

And also, I think said this before,

for around town, hybrid makes sense.

If I could knock around on the EV for a little bit.

Fine.

Okay.

That's fine.

If I can just roll around and do electric in a town.

Yeah.

I have recommended electric cars to people

because I think that's what I don't want it.

This is a bit my scenario, but I'm going,

you're doing eight miles a day.

Yeah.

And if you can charge at home,

you might as well have an electric car

because it's not going to cost you as much as

having to service a petrol car and do cam

belts in five years and blah,

blah, blah, blah.

The electric car makes sense.

also, it always seems like there's a,

there's a, there's always a drive to go.

Now, this is the answer.

Yeah.

Everyone should be driving hydrogen powered bombs.

They will be like, you have to go.

No, like the, like the person lives in the city.

They might have an electric car and then the

person lives on a suburb.

They might go, Oh, you know what?

A hybrid works for me.

Both.

And then everyone outside of that can have a

Lamborghinis.

But the, but the, but like what we said

before, there, there are cars for car people,

but not the majority of people are not car

people and they need cars too.

Yeah.

The movie.

They need.

Great film.

That's the one.

Yeah.

He's a great spy agent.

He is in my car's three.

Just racing again.

Yeah.

Just racing.

Hold on.

Oh, I've been looking forward to this one.

Now, Ben, you put in here, TDC ship posts and

I didn't know what it meant.

And then I didn't search for it.

I forgot about it.

And then I think I saw, I looked at my tag.

Yeah.

That's what I saw.

That's when I saw it.

And then I put two or two together.

Fantastic.

Fantastic.

I got exactly what we want to see from the

internet and from the Korean audience.

Exactly.

So I got tagged in a post and I usually I'll

check my tag posts and I'm like,

all right, what's going on here?

I don't go on Instagram that often.

And it was a meme.

I was like, that's kind of cool.

I could mean him here and there.

I thought it was for us.

No, it wasn't.

Completely unknown man.

I will give you who the man's name is.

His name is Ashie dot poached dot egg.

Now, first things first, you've got egg in your name.

Good.

Good.

See.

I didn't know that was the name.

So for instance, sorry, it's got music on it.

It's a first frame from a TDC video.

And it's a zoom in.

It's kind of as it's zooming in.

It's just the letter A is on screen.

And the caption is when someone asks me what

the first letter of the alphabet is.

Now, now a lot of people listening are going

to be going, why is that funny?

It's not that's not funny.

But unfortunately, this is directly our sort of here.

So yeah, another one is just it's a very

blurry photo of Will with the word the,

which is another first frame of a video,

which is when someone asked me what the first

name of Top Gear's tape racing driver is.

But are they all first frame videos?

They're all first frame.

Because they have this amazing zoom.

Same thing on every video with the zoom in,

because it's a little bit harking.

So shout out shout out to you for making chip posts.

Is there a one on there?

The when one made me laugh.

No, there's the what it's you's what.

Me after someone repeats the same thing for

the fifth time.

What?

So shout out.

We, you know what?

We love a ship post.

More of that you're you're coming up on to

see you laser level.

It's a different realm entirely.

See you laser.

There's an enemy on my turn.

Let's take him out.

See you laser been real quiet.

Where's the concept?

I've been posting memes.

Yeah, true.

Perhaps they're one in the same.

You know what?

It's it's there's a lot of room in this town.

Yep.

And really is.

This town's bigger than for the both of us.

Many of you.

Ben, you Tesla are killing models to build robots.

That's what the electric can use from Ben this week.

EV News.

So you know, the Tesla Model S and the X.

They got their dead.

Finally, 2012.

So three is the only one left?

Three and Y.

Because they're going to their future,

they believe.

No, wait, what's a Y to an X?

A Y is a sub, but

small.

You see everywhere.

So what's an X?

There's one with the weird doors.

That's a four by four.

Yeah, but it's the big boy.

What was it?

X big sub with Falcon door.

And then a Y is big model three,

small model X.

That's the same thing.

Like a crossover type vibe.

I think they're very similar.

But X is a big, big.

Yeah.

Oh, they look the same to me.

I thought they were the same car.

So they carry on.

So those are their two classic models they've

had for, I don't know, you call it,

2012, I think was the model S,

what I read.

They're now finally killing those cars after 14 years.

Okay.

They have face with them, but they're finally

killing them to make robots.

So what to make robots?

They want the manufacturing to make robots.

Okay.

So they're

55:35 Tesla's Robot Production Plans

making those humanoid robots,

right?

Are they making the robots so that the robots

can make cars?

No, I think it's so you can have your little

assistant pal, who comes on.

That's wack.

You close with you, what's it take up a seat?

Yeah, that's crazy.

No, just like, I don't know,

it does stuff for you.

Can he, oh, you know, could he be a co-driver?

Can I get him in and get him going for left?

But then he can use like AI to be like,

I've seen that there is an old video of the road.

Take the left, take it out, go around,

go around.

Meanwhile, Ben's in the passenger seat going,

another flip car up ahead.

Don't up all over, he'll help him.

No.

Master, that's the fourth one tonight.

Little robot, keep that doctor in my rear view.

Sire, he's trying to overtake.

Yeah, so he's going to the crash as I'm

trying to get to.

Master, you're over correcting,

you're going to lose the rear end.

It's got again, Master.

Basically, yeah, they want to,

here we go.

We want to make a human-wide robot,

basically.

Sorry, that was the pressure release.

He's a little bit rich and broader.

The Optimus Robot.

The Optimus Robot production.

Optimus Prime is what they're building.

Is that what it's called?

That's crazy.

I don't know, I read I thought it was interesting.

They're killing off their car production so

they could make robots.

That's so sad here.

No, I just thought that was a crazy business move.

There's not been many car makers that have

done similar to that.

But do you know what it is?

That's a Yamaha move.

Yeah, true.

Not quite as well as Yamaha move.

Not like, here's the R1, also piano.

It's like VW came the golf to finally focus

on the sausages full time.

Yeah, that part number, we've got it up that part.

I've been doubly setting hand sanitizer now.

We'd make way more money off this soap.

Ben, another one.

Ben, you're actually mashing this.

Sorry.

Yeah.

But this was interesting because I've seen

the post, but I don't know what it is.

So you're going to have to explain this.

Ford Granada with a CCX engine.

Let's research this together,

gang.

I've already done it, because I knew you wouldn't know.

I don't know much about the CCX.

Can I look again at that?

I thought you'd find it interesting.

Has someone said, because the Ford CCX is a

Ford engine, isn't it?

No, I thought this is why I did this.

Why did research?

Apparently, this is an actual coning set.

So if you didn't know, the V8 in,

I was going to say the early coning set,

but all the way up until like the rig get,

I think even there is a, no,

they're their own engine.

Okay.

So it's, yeah, all of your CCXs,

you CCR CC8 were basically a Ford modular V8.

V8 base engine, but really redone and twin charged.

So I thought it was going to be the same as

well, but no, apparently this was an XCCX

engine or at least a coning set engine,

but he then installed.

So this is a, there is a Ford Granada behind us.

I think it's in Norway, somehow got their

hands on a coning set engine and yeah,

built it into, into this Granada,

which is quite heavens, quite mental.

From what I don't, I didn't see what the

final figure was running, but I've said it

was prepped for around 1500 horsepower.

CCCX is what, 900,000?

Yeah, 900,000.

And they've, they've just gone twin turbos,

I think on this.

So no twin charged stuff.

Cause yeah, CCCX is twin charged.

I think so.

There was some of them coning things.

I want to say that early V8 modular guys are

all twin charged, super charged.

CCCX is just the best coning.

That's going to sound cool.

Just my favourite.

I like a Granada, but I feel like it doesn't.

CCCX is twin supercharged.

Okay.

1700.

1700.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

So the way, the way it looks,

it is, it's got little bit flared arches.

It's very beige, but with kind of split room

wheels, but then OEM other than that.

It's sort of very Granada, which I really like.

I dislike and I think, you know what?

The Scandinavian countries are very good at

doing this, making an OEM looking,

an OEM plus thing with city power.

If you have that anywhere else,

they'd be, it have 17 foot arches and then a

big wing and a livery that says,

I've got power.

Man, I don't need that.

Just give me something simple and nice

looking with all the power.

Oh, that.

Oh, yeah.

Koenigsegg engine.

What?

That's the classic, you know what,

one day gap bill.

That'll be very, very cool.

I remember that from magazine days.

Yeah.

I'm thinking I should be over 18 days.

What up next?

Ben, you've all put it in here.

A new S-Class, brackets, potholes.

A lot of news this week.

There's a new S-Class, they announced it last

week this week, which is a facelift.

And I think, you know what?

It looks quite good.

I don't like it.

I think we all looks better.

It looks money.

What does that mean?

You pull up in that money.

I think that's true of any S-Class.

up there.

It's compact.

So it's not new.

It's a facelift.

It looks the same.

It's the same shape.

Yes.

Yeah.

But one of the things they've announced of it

is, OK, so your car will read the road for potholes.

When it sees a pothole or you go through a

pothole and you jump a hole there,

it will upload the data to the cloud.

And every other S-Class will

1:00:18 S-Class Pothole Detection

register the fact there's a pothole there and

try and avoid it.

That feels a little bit elitist.

Maybe I can't just do it to ways.

Yeah, that's fair.

Yeah.

But also like the idea that the council fill

in the pothole, which they probably won't.

But if you follow an S-Class like,

yeah.

you should be good.

But then the pothole then disappears and it's gone.

They filled it in and then the car just

veering off into the other lane to avoid nothing.

Yeah, forever.

Because it would just assume that you've gone

around the pothole.

It would forever be going, there is still one there.

So you should watch out.

Yeah.

That's an old one.

Now, granted, I've cheated a little bit.

I've pulled up an A&G one, but I prefer that

for an end.

I just think they look very similar.

But I will say modern Mercedes stuff is what

disappoints me the most about BMW.

Maybe because I like BMWs more,

I have my own more and whatever else.

But I don't like many modern BMWs.

I think they all look like ass.

Whereas when I see modern mugs,

I think they look nice.

They're kind of messing it up with engines and stuff.

I saw a, what is it, a CLE?

I think it is.

It's like a coupe, the new thing.

C-class.

And it looks really, really cool,

but it just doesn't come with a cool engine anymore.

So it's not.

Yeah.

Same with the C63, A&G.

That's still objectively a cool looking thing.

I think it's one of the best looking

generations of C-class.

Looks great.

It's just A-class engine in it.

But I think they're making some of the best.

I saw an E-class.

It's not an E-class, it's an S-class.

They're, that's the other thing with work,

though.

They are, yeah.

They are, yeah.

I saw an E-class wagon, the new one,

and they have that, it's the light design

that BYD have copied.

So it's all jointed up, thin in the middle,

but it has the, the mace, the three-pointed

star in the light.

That, on the road, it looks really,

really cool.

And I don't think there's any BMW that even

gets close to it in terms of looks.

Well, you compare that, that's equivalent to

the new five series, I think looks like a

dog's dinner comparison.

Now, unfortunately, when this first came out,

this design with these real lights,

someone, I can't remember where it was,

likened to the real lights to an anus.

And unfortunately, I cannot unsee it,

or puckered.

A puckered anus.

And that's not great to think or look at.

No.

So I still not put off by it.

I was like, I like that more,

actually.

And there's the podcast.

Oh God, no, deck, thank you.

But I think Mercedes, fair.

I mean, isn't that the same company where

they design man's left, right?

He could go downhill or uphill.

BMW fang style very, very soon.

But please know.

Please Mercedes, start putting V8s back in those things.

And we're so back.

Next up, I've seen this and every,

I've disappointed in us.

Someone has flipped the ninking on.

Someone's done it, not the ninking on.

So we're not a ninking on.

Now, firstly, shout out Holland.

You're a responsible shit.

The moment I saw the Dumper logo,

which is above on here, Dumper is like a

Dutch social media platform that posts videos

like social media videos.

The moment I saw that label and I saw the

rear end of a ninking onk and knew what was

going to happen.

I'm not sure there's a car I'd like to roll

in, roll over in less than that.

No, it's really rough.

No, I think I still will.

It's like having a crash in a matchbox car.

Yeah.

Actually worse, because they're at least made

of actual metal.

For those of you that can't see the audio

listeners, it is an inking onk going around

the corner too fast and it basically casino royales.

It just, it just turns the corner and just

starts rolling into what looks like a pile of

rocks, which is not great.

But the thing that, the only thing I was

thinking when I watched this is that you see,

you hear a car crash.

Then you're very familiar with,

you know, you're not.

Apparently you've not turned activities out

to hand them out.

Oh, yeah.

Sorry.

Yeah.

The sound of a car crash is horrifying.

Oh, it's wild.

It's really, it stays in your soul.

But I can't imagine that this thinking about

crashing would have made a funny noise.

Yeah.

It wouldn't have sounded like,

it would not have sounded like metal crunchy.

Yeah.

It would have just sounded like someone

dropping a paper plate.

Yeah.

Just, just kind of plastic, just carty noise.

It would have gone, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa.

And then it would have been a bubble that said,

oops.

No, when I saw this, I panicked.

Well, for some reason, the Niki Nunk is so

ingrained in my mind as a thing that we've

had, that I forget they exist outside of TDC.

So, after a minute, when I first saw it,

I thought someone had stolen our Niki Nunk

and rolled it, and I was actually panicking.

I would actually love, I would prefer that,

that if someone did Nick, I mean,

that they rolled it, would be amazing.

Yeah.

It would show that not everyone could handle

a power, but

it's true.

The power only goes to a chosen few,

just shows how good of a drive you are.

I'd like to do again this year,

actually.

It's evening Nunk?

Yeah, let's see.

Do you think you could beat the time?

Yeah, 100%.

Maybe we should do some...

Maybe we should do some transportation.

Yeah.

Even if we don't end up doing the bike engine

before then, we can do something.

Yeah.

I'm good.

Enough aero that it just doesn't move.

Also, I could lose some weight,

and then that would surely help.

Lovely.

We can get some more.

Did we take the back seats out?

No.

We did it.

No, there were no back seat type.

Oh, no, there weren't.

It was clown shoe spec.

I also had Aidan, the social media man in

there with me, who...

What are you trying to say about Aidan?

Aidan, I like you, man.

But...

Wow.

You're not a person there.

No, he's got to go.

He's seeking to go too.

We'll drill some holes.

So for some aero, you know, behind that rear

bumper, that bumper, there's a lot of air.

The Ninkin' Nunk currently is locked away in storage.

You can't roll it, please.

We'll do a fresh tank of diesel for you as well.

Ninkin' on command tie racing,

coming to Shelby Walsh sometime this year.

That would be quite cool.

I'm now excited about it.

I want to put wider wheels on it and lower it.

That would not help you.

But I think it would look cool though.

It might help you not roll.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't think it would make you faster.

Ben, you've put a new Fast and Furious title.

It's been announced.

I've heard it and I've...

I have not.

So hold on, hold on, hold on.

So you watched it recently, didn't you fast?

Over X.

So this is now, now, can I just get a,

I promise I haven't seen this at all.

Is it 11?

Is it something to do with 11?

No.

Isn't it 'cause it's the second part of 10 still,

right?

So is it still 10, it's related to 10?

Is it not a fast time?

I don't, I don't care, but I die.

No, but I want to guess, I'll see if I can guess.

I don't know what it's about.

I think it is a second part 'cause the 10th

part one ends on a cliffhanger.

Yeah, kind of.

I thought it was a two part,

two part.

Yeah, I thought that, but it's not.

I reckon it's called, now the classic was

fast 10, your seat belts.

It's what it should have been the whole time.

Fast 10, your seat belts.

I reckon it's gonna be fast X this time it's personal.

Make it more emotional.

This time it's about fat.

No, like what would, if you were to call it

fast something, it's gonna be a motion,

it's gonna really--

Fast Finale.

You're getting close.

Fast Finale is--

1:07:05 Fast and Furious 10 Title Speculation

I wanna see if you can guess you ate it.

Fast, who's watching this shit?

(Carol laughs)

The one thing I mildly remember is they,

'cause I thought surely this,

I don't know when that last one came out,

but it felt like a while ago,

right?

2023.

Okay, so we're coming up three years,

basically.

When do you think the next one's coming up?

I thought maybe this year.

Maybe it's got--

Is it a while?

2028.

What?

March 17th, 2028.

Crazy.

It's two years out yet, and the rest.

Are they writing the Bible?

Are they writing every single word?

No, they're re-shooting the films from the

first one up to the end in one.

Well, I mean, every one take.

You've got this Christiano Ronaldo in it,

as Brian O'Connor.

They're bringing Paul Walker back,

right?

So, I mean, I must take a lot of

post-production to do that.

I think it takes a lot of work to do that.

The thing is a lot like I find is that,

right, so you made this one,

it's like a two-part, right?

I mean, the first part in, I assume you start

producing it in 2021,

Yeah?

Surely you'd know what the second part of

it's story is.

You can't then wait seven years.

And they go, we haven't filmed that yet.

Oh, we haven't written that yet.

Oh, no, we know how it ends.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, we absolutely know how that ends,

obviously.

If you've got that ending, I thought you had the ending.

Oh, no, let me get, let me get Cristiano on

the ref on the phone.

It's a stranger thing all over again,

whether you start filming the finale before

they've even written it.

What is the title?

Please, can you guess?

'Cause I think you can get that.

Is it got space in it?

It's FastX.

I'll give you hints.

It's the final one, it's the last one,

we're all a big

family.

Family, fast family.

Fast family finale finale

finale finale finale.

You could do it, you could do it,

you could do it.

Fast friends, oh no.

Fast friends.

No, not fast friends, Edwin was getting close.

Fast friends.

No, no, fast.

French, fast and French.

What is it?

Fast forever.

Oh, y'all.

That is an album title from the Spice Girls.

That's now, that's crazy.

Fast Forever sounds like the comeback video,

like film they do in 15 years.

Yeah, it's not the final one.

I thought you had to get that.

That's crazy, now that we have any

information on it.

March 17th, 2028, probably not written yet.

I like Fast Frenzy, that was.

No, but what do you mean it's not written

yet, but Christian Arundelvo's already been in it.

He's on the podcast, he's obviously been in it.

Wait, he's been in the, no, no,

no, the last one.

They're filming multiple.

Ben, you can't say the last one,

I watched the last one.

I did.

They're filming that right now.

Sure.

Talk to them yourself.

They're filming that right now because

Cristiano Ronaldo's in it.

Of course, which is the natural,

I mean, we all knew that was gonna happen.

It was originally called Fast X part two.

Which confuses me because when,

you know, big old Vin Diesel,

master writer, announced it,

he said, we can't backstreet racing.

And then someone said something to us about it.

He said no sentence.

He said no sentence.

You do know you've asked Cristiano Ronaldo

it's been, and you went, oh.

Oh God, and he drives a shear on,

right?

He's raced that, maybe?

Now, we actually briefly asked Chan Chippet

to find us all of the loopholes and face them

furious, and it is, it's not even worth going

through, there is an abundance,

but it is quite funny how they've saved the

world multiple times, really.

They're also quite serious criminals at this stage.

I do.

Terrible stuff.

But yeah, the government still goes back to

them, and all these secret agencies go to

them and go, these, these, like,

don't forget everyone else.

You know, train Marines.

These don't worry about them.

Get the ball dude in, he knows how to get this.

Snap a speedo, you've never seen in a Dodge Charger.

But, and yeah, the government goes,

despite the crime, the government says that

if you can do this, you're good.

One last bite.

But then despite all that, I still go back to

street racing.

Bear in mind, they robbed a drug dealer

billionaire and could have built a racetrack

on which to race.

And then when, do you know what?

I fancy a little bit of street racing.

I don't know, if you don't, as a street

racer, it does feel--

It's kind of in my blood.

I do, don't I.

But despite the fact I've been to outer

space, I still feel the need to street racing.

I think I've experienced every adrenaline

under the sun.

I've swung a car across a bridge,

just with its front wheel.

But you know what, a quarter mile sounds

pretty good right now.

I can go for one.

Edwin and Ben were telling me about the most

recent film 'cause I probably haven't seen

the last three or four and I found out that

Vin Diesel has a son.

And that was interesting, I didn't know about that.

The best part of it being, he's called Brian

and everyone's like, "Oh, he called him Brian."

in their universe, Brian's alive,

and well.

So you just called his child your mate's name

and everyone's like, "So beautiful."

I am right here.

I'm right here.

You just call your son me and everyone's

like, "Oh, rest in peace.

Rest in peace, Brian."

And one day we'll see.

One day.

One day.

When I see you again.

We know Brian, hello.

He's also gonna be in the next movie.

Coming back to the next movie,

that's Brian.

Brian, Brian.

I swear, do you mind going to die?

When I watched the other, my girlfriend,

that was one of the first things she laughed at.

She went, "Pfft, Brian!"

(laughs) Which is kind of fair,

in America, maybe a rare name.

But in the UK, Brian is just an,

it's an English name.

I doubt anyone's been called Brian in the

last two or three years.

Yeah.

I don't think there's been a newborn called Brian.

Little baby Brian.

That's my baby, Brian.

Who's 37, by the way.

So, yeah, looking forward to that.

I tried to do the re-watching it.

Trying to research whether they started filming.

No news, and I got so frustrated,

I just asked AI, told me no.

Do not, Ben, no news is good news.

Not for this.

Now, what if?

They've announced basically it's coming out,

but the principal photography has not begun yet.

We are a podcast.

Okay.

We are a podcast.

I will.

We also do YouTube.

No way.

So, there is a possibility we might get

invited to something.

Yeah.

Now, we slalned a Fast and Furious a lot,

but I think I'd still look past that to go to a premiere.

Well, Ben, Ben did.

Ben went to the premiere of the last one.

I went to the premiere of the last one.

It's an early screening.

Yeah.

Okay, well, I was on the red carpet.

I think that's worse.

I wonder we've given them.

I think we've earned.

Yeah, anyone's listening that can get us

there at the premiere.

Now, if you can get us in, we will be

required to show Ben every movie.

Yeah.

So we will have to do a load of live shows

across the country where Ben watches each

Fast and Furious.

I think that's what we're gonna have to do.

We're gonna have to do a tour of the U.K.

watching "Tentals."

We'll do "Tentals."

We'll do "Tentals."

We'll do "Tentals."

And then we'll just start watching U.S.

We'll do "Tentals."

We'll do "Jig Vannebruh."

Yeah, we're gonna be out in the field somewhere.

I think that's it.

Jor, I love that, I'll be great.

If we could do some shows, we'll watch it

with the creamers.

Yeah, and we do some live commentary along the way.

That would be great.

Also, someone's gonna go there,

having not watched it, who's like,

"Cool, I'm ready to watch this,"

and be really annoyed by us constantly

commenting about this.

"Hey, yes, let me watch."

That's actually gonna be you,

isn't it, Ben?

Yeah, I'd probably really get into it to be fair.

Stop crying.

Jor, I actually, so it was always a joke that

I hadn't watched it, and then obviously we

start the podcast, and now it's become such a thing.

I'd like to watch it.

I just now can't watch it.

Wow.

Because it's so much of a thing,

and I also know that there's a live event,

possibly, we've mentioned this before,

so...

Worth it, it's not.

Ooh, a little podcast silence.

A little bit of a silence there.

Edwin, you've put, "I've been had,

brackets, tester, roster."

I've been had, brackets, tester,

roster.

Horsepower Hunters, Tom, a good friend of

ours, sent a message after listening to the

last podcast, and said, "I'm fortunate I had

to break it to you."

That is not really an idea to capture a drive

in that car.

The account that's posting that just takes

videos of supercars and just lies.

How about he's driving them?

So apparently it's not him.

He doesn't own that tester or so.

Well, allegedly.

So, shout out for the correction.

That's exactly what the sort of manager of

Leonardo DiCaprio would say.

Mr.

Half.

All right, Tom.

All right.

He's trying to deflect a bit of Hollywood,

'cause again, he doesn't want,

he's in Hollywood, he doesn't want people to

know he's got my car, so he's got his PR team on it.

Cross around the globe, somewhere on a

Spanish car called past, podcasted

everywhere, all over the world.

Don't get it wrong again.

Don't say his name, don't get it wrong again,

he's also got a very wrong, thank you.

You've been, you've been had that.

I've completely been had.

You've been had Facebook style.

Yeah, no, I've been AI-slopped.

And then also I've been--

You've been old people.

Yeah.

Did you see DiCaprio driving that white Ferrari?

And then it exploded, prayers,

kisses.

I'm praying for his old family,

I can't imagine how they're feeling.

Coming, oh my God, this is so sad.

(laughing)

To end the podcast, we will end with a forum.

Let's go back, let's do it guys.

Let's run it back.

It's just a nice traditional.

This is from someone who messaged me,

no way, called Firsty Lasty.

Lovely.

Sure.

Creamer question, I know you all love manual

cars, but my question is, when you play video

games, do you prefer the automatic or the

manual controls?

I'm a manual man.

I am a manual.

There are exceptions.

Okay, that's true actually, that's fair.

There are exceptions.

I've got those exceptions, I think any speed

might actually be an exception.

Yeah, heard.

Because their manual's not very good.

Yeah, that's the manual controls aren't good.

Like a Forza manual.

Forza manual with clutch.

With a clutch.

Forza manual with clutch, 'cause I used to be

beginning to drifting in Forza,

I used to do drift lobbies, but it always

surprises me after I come back from playing

another racing game, that Gran Turismo

doesn't have clutch on controller,

which is kind of fair because it's a

controller, you don't actually have a clutch,

you just have an on/off switch.

I have to have, you don't have a clutch kick,

just a little round.

And it depends on a sim, you're gonna be

manual, surely you have to be manual.

Because you have a sim at home,

I want to get one soon, but you're basically

always in the car, are you in the car mate?

(laughs)

Can you click me open in the morning?

You're like, see Will in a sim,

are you in the car?

Do you put the gearbox to the car you're in?

Now, I'm getting mad at it, but a lot of the

set-of-course stuff, at least how I have it

set up on the content manager,

is it automatically does that.

Okay, so if the car's a manual,

you have to use the H pattern shifter,

which I have, if it's a, well,

it's not like if it's an auto,

it's an auto.

It'll be all flappy patterns.

This is a CVT mate, you just throw it.

I don't have the shifter for this.

(laughs)

But yeah, it just, it feels more.

There is a weird part of that as well,

'cause it's like, obviously I have mine set

up as a right hand drive thing,

'cause that makes sense.

When you go inside a car that's left hand

drive, it feels a bit like...

This is a bit weird.

One for each side.

(laughs)

Crazy flex.

A bit of boxes, but yeah, it's,

I would go manual most time.

Who would you think I'd do?

You're an auto man.

He's your full auto man.

Sounds like they are.

I'd go water if I'm just chilling,

but I also do enjoy...

Just chilling, Ben.

It's a race, Ben just drives off at five.

I'm trying to think of how midnight club I

would have been auto.

Oh yeah.

I think I would have been auto there.

I can't even, I wouldn't even know what.

Any game that has, like, nitrous and all

sorts of that sort of stuff.

Yeah.

All right, I forget manual controls.

Anything with break to drift.

Yeah.

I like to really...

Get into it.

Like, if I play Forza, sit at my desk with a

monitor close to my face rather than sitting

like a bed or on the sofa.

So it's close to me.

It feels like you're there and I like to wear

big headphones that have like noise canceling.

So I feel like I'm really in it and I can

hear the shifts and stuff.

If I'm just selling sofa chilling,

I can't really hear it well enough and I

don't want to blast it for the house.

When you, and then also when you're playing it.

Oh, crazy.

When you go to get, when you're playing at

your desk, do you walk up to the seat like

it's a car seat?

You can get in it.

Do you embrace the whole thing?

I treat it like a GT3 car, go in for the window.

So I have to jump over the armrest.

You let the car warm up as well?

Yeah.

No one don't.

You put it back on so it feels like harnesses.

Yeah, no.

There are, there are.

I've been seeing it in a few videos.

I think it's an old guy somewhere on Instagram.

There is an old girl on Instagram.

He's busting out harnesses.

I can't condemn that.

There's a level of realism, but we have to remember.

He's our games.

He's our games for our enjoyment.

And some of it is like practice and learning

and how to drive and how to drive faster.

But I think harnesses might be a step too far.

Now, here's my question.

Nine times out of 10.

All times out of 10.

Are you in your socks?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, 'cause it's quite funny actually,

'cause it makes me laugh.

I normally use socks, but it's annoying

because it hurts.

Yeah, fair.

If you're healing and telling it actually

genuinely hurts.

I don't want to take any shoes from downstairs.

If you've got some shoes.

They're not some shoes.

Is it Crocs?

Brown loafers.

(laughing)

We're out in the center over here.

Is there something like that?

Brown loafers, because they're like,

not that worn outside, so they're not like

disgusting, they're dirty, but they're

usable, and you

can just lick them on as well.

So I'm there, probably, in tracksuit bottoms,

white socks and brown loafers.

Gloves, I draw the line at gloves.

What?

How am I looking at?

Yeah, I'm racing, I'm racing.

Got 24 hours of Le Mans on upstairs.

Gloves, I draw the line at, Alcatara,

I cannot sort of understand it,

because the used Alcatara wheel I've got,

because of the whole set-ups I've used,

is disgusting, it's like unsavable,

at least to me anyway, so I can kind of

understand that, but just wash your hands and

clean your wheel every now and then,

rather than, I couldn't be found wearing

gloves in your own house in my own.

I think it's kind of crazy.

(laughing)

Oh, like a sim, I think I feel much better.

How would you dress for your sim?

I reckon Ben, Ben the type of guy to have an

outfit for the sim.

Yeah.

I'm a big, I don't really like--

Say suit and a hands device.

(laughing)

Safety first.

I don't really like wearing joggers,

so I probably have to dress up for it.

Would you be wearing your jeans?

Probably.

Or underwear?

Would you go underwear?

No, I don't.

But with the full Stig Alpine style shoes,

that goes up like, you know--

No, I don't like wearing, I'll wear some

joggers at home if it's, you know,

the evening, maybe, say it was Saturday afternoon.

In the evening.

Yeah, like an evening race.

Yeah, I probably would.

If you were doing 24 hours of Le Mans,

would you have multiple fits throughout the--

Well, you can just stop doing yourself for

four hours or something, yeah.

Yeah, because you'd stop and go,

oh, you just pose in the front of the mirror.

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to--

Yeah.

Short, lovely.

What would you wear, ideally?

Nothing.

No.

Completely naked, considering.

I'm sure I'd believe you.

I'd just do a post for a walk off and go,

"Whoa!"

(laughs)

Yeah, why'd you come upstairs?

You just crash.

(laughs)

No, no, I'd be downstairs.

I'd be like, the moment you open the door

with this--

I'd just like be right there.

It's bang in the middle.

Yeah.

You'd open it and then the screen,

you'd be looking at the back of the screen as

you open the door.

Yeah.

So I'd be, you'd just see me,

eye level.

I'd go, "Not now, busy, thanks,

I'm just doing spa."

(laughs) Come back in the day,

I'm doing 24 hours.

(laughs) I'm actually going quite into it.

Not into like sim racing, I can't really get

into that yet, but it's the whole PC and the mod thing.

It's cool.

It's incredibly hard now to go back to,

I will load up every now and then,

Forza or even Gran Turismo, and I'm like--

This is not the same.

You can do anything you want.

There's a guy, I don't know how well known it

is, but like the sound mod stuff,

there's a guy called Gabe IS 300,

and I think he's in the US, but he does sound

mods, and he has a mercy bar going on,

and I've spent so much time driving that,

because it's perfect, it's perfect.

I know that this guy, obviously he's focusing

on one mod, so you can say game companies

don't have time to do that, whatever,

but it is perfect.

He's done all the beeps in the car that the

shifter clicks on a manual version.

start the car, you have to key a button to

start the car.

I always wonder about that, and I know,

I understand that it's probably from a,

when you're trying to ship like a AAA game,

everything needs to meet certain benchmarks

that have to be done a certain way.

It's like you could've been anything,

you wouldn't want 30 different people doing

different sections of the video,

because it would be very hard to patch them together.

But why not outsource stuff like that?

Make a model, and then outsource the sound to

someone who can do it the best.

Give a little bit of a go.

to maybe it's something there's a specific

way they need to make it so the game runs.

I don't know what it is.

There must be some technical reason or a

budget reason, but the stuff this guy turns

out and others as well is actually like,

unbelievable.

And even some of the car models as well,

like they're actually putting together really

good car models based on nowhere near as much

like, with the tech that these guys,

the F10 that you, I tried when I was at

yours, that the fact that when you start the

car, the startup process is like a real car.

And then the bang and all of a sudden the

audio rises up like the real one and the

mirrors fall out.

That's so cool.

Yeah.

That's the sort of stuff that makes you feel

like, oh, this is actually a car person's game.

And there's little details.

To be fair, like the newest set of courses

doing sort of like the actual Evo,

'cause obviously that I guess is,

there's no mods involved there.

Like there's an M3 CSL.

Yeah.

And you can have normal and sport and sport

plus or whatever.

So there are actual like modes for each car.

And you can see the Manatino switch changing.

Yeah.

So those little details are cool.

But I just think that's where some car games,

that's where people like us,

which is made, I don't know,

maybe we're the most

We definitely are.

We definitely are games.

But those little details are what make me

really like a car game.

Hey.

Not like, hey, there's 800 cars and they've

all got no details.

Cream ever makes it big enough,

TDC ever makes it big enough.

We'll do a game and we'll make it proper now.

Cream, cream.

And we won't be taxing a brake pad,

so don't worry about it.

No, it's right.

We just might.

They'll be in microtransactions.

(laughing)

Right.

Shall we wrap it up there?

Thank you very much for listening.

by Cremontal, leave your interest in the comments.