Secret Santa, Our Favourite Cars Of 2025 And Who Said That? - C.R.E.A.M. Christmas Special #62

0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin

Edging, busting and nuts and beans and eggs.

My granddad is on his way out and I'm washing him.

That is you.

I thought

seeing as your back door's got smashed in.

It's a bad

thought.

I'd get you a new back door.

That's my back door.

Where did you get this back door from?

We planned it perfectly.

When we launched a podcast, we will get a

Christmas Day slot.

That's like a year down the line.

We've got myself, Will, Edwin to my right and

Ben behind the camera.

Hello, Christmas.

Hello, Christmas.

Now, at the beginning of every single one of

these podcasts, we ask ourselves,

do cars rule or ruin everything around us?

This Christmas Day, Edwin, would you like to

kick us off?

Hello, Mary Chrysler to you all.

That is a great question.

It's a ruin, unfortunately, on this happy and

holiest of days.

No, yeah, I've got no daily.

My E36 is falling apart around me.

I asked Ben to move it earlier.

Ben, what happened?

Oh, I got stuck in it.

So I asked Ben to move the E36 while I

moved now Taylor's Cayenne and I moved the

Cayenne, got the

jump pack out, did a load of things.

And as I was walking

back out from the pit, Ben was still sat in

my car and he looked over like a puppy and I

realized when I went and opened the door,

yeah, the door handles now.

broken the, I'm going to admit something.

The wing mirror still not there.

That's beaten month.

Sorry, the rear view mirror.

It's just, it's kind of falling apart around me.

That car is interesting because it was like,

I actually think it was what?

Not the best example.

It was all right.

It was very clear.

Yeah.

And then, and then you put the body kit on it.

I thought this looking good and it got pain.

So I was like, wow, this is clean.

And it's just, it's slowly becoming just an E36.

Yeah.

Door cards missing.

It smells of milk in there.

Yeah.

The seats are very dirty.

We won't explain that.

It just does smell of milk there.

And egg nog.

Best part is that you have, by far,

the smallest community out of all of us.

Oh, that's all right.

I didn't think that was going where I thought

it was going.

Oh.

And the smallest community out of all of us,

but I'm watching it in real time.

Just get worse and worse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, we'll, you know, we'll see the new year,

which will be next cream.

May bring a solution to that.

We'll see.

Maybe.

Have you bought yourself a car for Chris?

I haven't bought it, but there might be

something a foot.

Something a foot, really?

There may be deals going on.

Actually, perhaps, you know,

the one that I went and looked at,

not the one we talked about in podcast,

but the other one I went and looked at.

We will have Christmas cars,

though.

We'll get to that a little bit.

Wait.

Well, at the end, I will.

You bought a car?

No, I haven't bought it, but there's,

there's, there's, there's things a foot.

Do I know of this?

Don't, why don't, you know, do you know of this?

Well, you know, well, no, I don't know of that.

I sort of know of that, but I don't know.

Oh, I don't know.

So for now, it's a ruin.

I'm hoping that wherever I am on this

Christmas of day, it's better.

Yep.

Benjamin.

Me having issues with my daily.

What about you?

My daily is great.

Okay.

As in non-existent.

Okay.

What's not there?

Can't hurt you.

Exactly.

A daily can't break if you haven't got one.

The last podcast was shot possibly three days ago.

So nothing has changed.

Even if it had been shot a year ago,

nothing would have changed way to break the illusion.

Even in another year's time,

I don't think.

Probably not.

S2000 life is, is, is great.

Is it?

What is it?

It's actually fine.

The thing that, what Edwin said,

not what you said the other day.

It's, it's a great car.

The issue is, is the fact that there's what

there's two things.

Political.

There are two things.

There are two things.

Number one is I fear for it.

Okay.

Rust wise.

And number two is no cruise control,

which obviously it wouldn't have.

It's a sports car, but all traction control.

No, you said Christmas.

No, I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it on Christmas.

No, that's, that, that's maybe a new year's one.

There's nothing, there is nothing.

Yes, you are a politician.

Yeah.

You've lied to her.

And then the deadline you gave us,

you then pushed forwards backwards.

George, there's context to this,

everyone listening.

I'm not giving it.

But, but Ben, remember we talked about this.

We said you can leave it in 2025.

Otherwise, it comes with you into 20 things.

I'm not

4:16 Ben's S2000 Life

talking about it.

Well, what if we talk about it?

No, you don't want us to spin the story.

No.

No.

Anyway, the has no traction control.

That's gradually.

It's got no cruise control.

So it makes my journey feel quite long.

But apart from that, great car.

Anyway, big turning it around and coming over to me.

It will be a rule.

It's a rule because there's not again,

we haven't done many days since the last one.

There's not much reason.

Did you actually say rule or ruin?

I think you just talked about your daily.

Oh, sorry.

Ruin.

Okay.

Two ruins and a rule.

And I would say yes.

No reason to ruin and quite a big rule.

Not personal correlated, but somewhere we

visited recently, which we will get to.

It's wrong.

Yeah, we'll get to that later.

Yeah, we will get to that later.

We've got other things to get through.

I mean, we've got Christmas-y things.

This will be perhaps slightly longer,

maybe not.

We'll see.

Or happy holidays to those of you not

celebrating Christmas.

There'll be gifts.

I want to say one thing.

There'll be, here we go.

Everyone listening, I really hope you're

listening is on Christmas Day and you have

left your family in one room and you're

listening to the cream.

No, listen with the family.

Or perhaps you're gathered around the fire,

opening a residence, listening to us.

They're going good.

You don't.

That's not saying anything silly.

Please don't say anything silly.

Let me go.

Edging.

That's a bean.

Creamy.

Also, what I was going to say has left my

brain and that's okay.

Okay.

It's in your hat.

Christmas hat.

No.

Oh yeah, for those of you listening and not

watching, that's what I was going to say.

Also, lots of you may be driving today.

You may be heading from one family to another family.

Oh, working, if some of you've been driving

home for Christmas.

That might be it.

If you're working, make sure you're listening

to the cream podcast.

If you're an audio listener,

you will see Ben is dressed in a Christmas jumper.

What are you wearing with a hat?

I'm the same.

Will you've got a Star Wars jumper?

Yep.

Jumper.

And you've decided not to go with the

Christmas hat, but with the Christmas.

But it's not Santa hat.

It's not Santa hat.

It's Christmas cracker hat, which I believe is cool.

We'll hand them to me a box earlier of just

how many a thousand of those.

I think there's 400 Christmas.

400 Christmas hats.

It's for the next one.

And he said, I bought props.

I bought one very long piece of tinsel and 400 Christmas.

Does it not look festive?

The tinsel is great.

And we've got no game this this this this week round.

We've got a lovely fire burning.

Ben's makes tape up on the screen.

Also, there is a giant neon check engine.

I want to call it giant a check engine.

Neon light neon on the bottom,

which Paris is also a Christmas.

It was listed as genuine as large.

Genuine original manufacturer.

Now, there is also in front of it the ML 63

tire, which he would have now seen Ben give

me confirmation.

Yeah, even though you wouldn't have known.

You haven't heard anything.

You would have seen it in actually in about a

week or so.

Okay.

Well, we have bought.

We teased it in the last one.

We bought an ML 63 AMG with we're kind of

working, wrapping up work on that.

It's just the start.

This car is going to be cool.

It's very very.

We actually had a conversation today where we went.

Originally, it's been one episode where we

just made it nice.

And now we found mods.

There's too many things to do.

Here comes TDC boys.

So you will see that in the new year.

Right.

Things and stuff.

Sure.

Some of which are Christmas related,

some of which are not starting off with.

Is it this?

Is it what?

The thing you mentioned before we start.

Well, no, not yet, not yet, not yet.

This is the Leap Scrong T63 that Edwin has put in.

I'm honestly baffled.

It is called the...

Now, I was behind a car on the way home.

I was like, sorry, let me rephrase this.

It's much better TDC version.

We were working through lunch and we ordered food.

I accidentally ordered it to my house.

So I had to go to my house to go and get the food.

Will, how warm was the food?

8:00 Leap Scrong T63 Discussion

Well, it wasn't.

It's quite a way away.

So anyway, on the way back, I was trying to

get back as quick as possible to have our

Christmas lunch together.

And what bestowed in front of me that it was

called a leap motor, T03.

I'm going to put a photo of this car off on the screen.

That is a not real.

This is a watchdogs car.

Oh, I saw one of these the other day.

Why?

It's not really been matched.

Right.

What I foot for the viewers,

Ben, get the descriptions out of it.

Okay.

So imagine just the most tragic looking

machine you've ever seen.

It's a very small, very thin car.

I would make it...

What does it look like?

A long thing.

I mean, we'll hit that.

I think, yeah, it's a 500 mix with A-Class lights.

Now, however big you think this car is,

make it half the size of that.

And now microcar scale.

No.

So you know the dasia springs that you see

around the tiny...

Oh, yeah.

would be either the same size or just a

little bit smaller than that.

And this car was doing four miles an hour on

a B-road, 60 mile an hour B-road.

Maybe, look, maybe I'm being overzealous,

call it five.

It was going slow, up to 10.

But I was buying this car and I got angry,

not because it was holding me up,

but because I don't know what that is.

Yeah, no, that's not a thing.

There was a time, this is why I brought this

up for the Creamers.

It

was a very good car.

"Is this what the early 1900s was like?"

"It must be!"

"They came out with the car and went right,

Chevrolet here, Dodger here,

Ford here, BMW here."

"What's the model T?"

"Have you seen one of those Mercedes-Benz?"

"Never heard of it."

"I used to be a dangler, God."

"Was it Mercedes-Benz, why?"

"I just called me Mr.

Bens, please."

Mercedes is my father's name.

I had a look at what this is.

It annoyed me so much.

I was like, I have to do my research on it.

165 miles, you can do in this.

So compared to something like a leaf,

a leaf.

And it will do 12.7 seconds,

not to 62.

That's slow.

That's really slow, yeah.

And an 81 mile an hour top speed.

That's not fast at all.

But the thing that I will say is kind of impressive.

16,000 or 15,985 pounds.

Well, that would make it surely one of the cheapest.

One of the cheapest cars in the market,

which is kind of interesting because that

feels like 2010 cheap car money.

Yeah.

Like granted, 16 grand is not cheap to spend

on a box, a soap box with wheels.

But in today's money, we're a golf full costy

35, 40 grand.

That's kind of impressive.

And it's called the two three.

It's called the T03.

In today's money, I find it impressive.

But I still think, I'm in, but I watched,

is it the Ukraine special of top?

You know where they have the up,

the Fiesta and the Dacia Sandera.

And I'm watching that and thinking it's like

the Sandera was like seven grand new and grand.

I was inflation caught 10 grand now,

right?

But even then you're looking at cars that

look a little bit of maybe 18,

19 grand now.

now.

And you get a Fiesta, which at the time was

quite high quality.

I guarantee you get in that car,

it's going to feel cheap.

I was wondering if they're doing five because

they just couldn't there to live with it.

They're just, they're just, I just,

I have no, someone kill me.

It's, it's so soul sucking that I'm just

going to, I'm just going to not even,

they just put it in drive and let off or they're dead.

Or despite being however many years old it

is, it's the batteries just died.

Yeah, that is, that is as fast as it'll go.

I know that most people are going to buy this

on finance or on higher purchase or whatever.

But 16 grand, you could go out and get a four

year old Fiesta.

Yeah, for the same finance.

Yeah, oyster oyster.

Yeah, oyster oyster oyster.

But you could have a good car.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The 15 grand, you can go and finance something

electric.

That's a couple of years old.

You should get an L6, you should get an AMG.

You probably get a take-hand that's like six

months old for that sort of money.

But yeah, 16, 15, 16 grand, you all get,

you're getting something that's got,

like that, that'll have nothing.

No, that's just, it's nothing.

Badness.

And it's called a LEAP motor.

You can't, you cannot.

When someone says, what car do you have?

And you go, the LEAP motor.

What's wrong?

Is that sorry?

He's what I'm sorry.

A LEAP blower.

What sort of car are we driving here?

That's not a good name.

I can only imagine the sort of human being

that's driving that gray, beige and boring.

Sad.

Anyway, on to the next one.

Okay.

Merry Christmas.

Merry

12:52 Handbrake Dick Pick Joke

Christmas.

So if you wake up this morning to find a LEAP

motor, two, three under your tray.

You go, I wonder what it is.

Is it an A-Class?

Next.

I didn't know this was the next thing coming.

On this Christmas morning, I really hope

you're sitting with your family.

Because the thing we're about to discuss is a

handbrake dick pick.

Yes.

Now, Ben, we have not told you about this.

I saw, we have a chat on Slack where we put

in lots of things to talk about.

That's where we get the list that he has here from.

And I saw it come through and thought,

what?

Now, a minute ago, these two were like,

Will said to Edwin, "Oh, I'll send you the picture.

I'll send you the picture."

And I've been sat here quite scared.

I don't want to say-- Now, I'd like you to

describe what you think it's going to be.

I don't know.

I'd like to give you some context.

A little bit.

All right.

So we are about to do a video in the next

week or so modifying a friend of mine's mini.

So I've been looking for parts.

And I-- Ooh.

And there we go.

And I found a breaker of parts.

And he said, I've got some bits.

Do you want me to send you some pictures?

I said, sure.

Now, I'll send me over some pictures.

Now, stop there.

Ben, what do you think happened next?

So I think he sent you photos of the bits.

You know, there was something was out in the background.

So you think it's in the background?

So it wasn't an accidentally extra photosend.

Oh, don't be that.

OK, but you think it was in the background?

I think maybe he was trying to--

I don't know why he-- have it out.

[LAUGHTER] I don't know if it could be mixed in there.

You know when you're like taffing through,

and I'll send this one to this one,

this one.

You might accidentally tap the--

What a festive

conversation.

Wouldn't we like to see it?

No.

OK, I would

have followed the screen there.

[LAUGHTER]

[LAUGHTER] Now, for the audio viewers,

I would like you to--

[LAUGHTER] I'd like to explain what you're saying.

Now, we

will.

This will get an overlay.

I promise this will get an overlay.

It actually has to.

This is-- for starters, it's not an actual.

Yes, it is.

You can only pack at the screen now.

It's carbon fiber something.

I assume it's a handbrake.

It's a context.

It's being a little of perhaps a point of

view angle looking down as if you were--

He's kind of taking it from chin level,

like looking down his body.

And then his hand is just right at the bottom

of the frame, just kind of like holding what

you might hold.

I don't know what you might hold.

With the gear knob, just protruding,

outwards.

Direct.

This might be the worst way you could

photograph a handbrake on Earth.

Surely he knows what he's doing.

I'm not sure.

I can say I'm not interested in that.

It's lovely.

I'm sure you get a lot of offers on it,

but it's

not for me.

Maybe it's very, very small.

If I take it at this angle, it will hit the

half time zoom.

We went fisheye

on it.

Is that what he's got?

I'll get it from the base.

Is

that what he has a brake disc down there for

like trimming?

For scale, yeah.

I'm just thinking, if Ben's a brake disc,

by the way, that's an RS6 brake disc.

Also, I'm six foot one.

If any of you need me pointers on how to take

a photo of a handbrake, please get it done

for this mini-breaker.

Also, I'm not gonna out you,

but if you listen to the podcast and that's

you, shout out.

Just do a different act.

Like, put it on the floor, put it on the

picture of it, and then it removes any,

or blur it the next time, perhaps.

That was incredibly good.

I've been laughing at this for the last week,

since which will show me.

Really, quite funny.

Next up, we have Lambo.com.

Lambo.com.

Which is a story I only read about yesterday.

Sorry, I'm gonna have to speak among yourselves briefly.

How's your Christmas?

What'd you get?

I don't know.

This is

Christmas for me.

Right now, I'm probably enjoying a Christmas turkey.

What about you?

I'm just gonna talk about it,

nonetheless.

So, a man bought Lambo.com many years ago.

He bought the domain.

It's not a new thing to buy domains

and try and sell them.

He bought the domain thinking I might sell

this in the future.

I think he paid $10,000 for it.

And a big investment.

Yeah, fairly big.

I mean, I think this was like 2010.

In order to say, someone will know more,

'cause they did.

So, a lot of monies who don't spend on a

domain that you don't really know if you can

use it or not.

And apparently, he did many things over the

course of owning this domain where he was

basically saying it's nothing to do with Lamborghini.

I'm not trying to do that.

It's right to a nickname called Lam,

and then he put a site up that said he was

basically gonna go after the people that were

saying that it was about Lamborghini,

whatever.

And it's all gone to, a court of laws and what such.

And the overall that goes to Lamborghini.

Without paying.

So he listed it for sale, I want to say in 2018.

For reasonable?

It was $1.2 million.

Okay.

And obviously Lamborghini went,

well, I don't really want that.

'Cause I think we actually have a website

called Lamborghini, that's their name,

which is the name.

Now, famously, when you're trying to sell

something, you kind of start at a price and

you kind of move down from there.

That wasn't his plan.

No, yeah.

I read somewhere $75 million.

It's like holding someone ransom in a movie.

It's reverse bartering.

It's $1.2 million.

No, we're not interested.

But it went five mil.

It basically went to like an intellectual

property court type thing.

And they basically said, yeah,

you're a top mate, we're giving it.

And they gave it to Lamborghini.

So he's lost out on 10 grand.

You should at least get where you,

but it's because he was over the course of

how many years he was basically attacking them.

and just trying to get money out of it.

So it's just a ridiculous way to do things.

They were the same thing with,

I want to say it was Nissan in America.

And they went after him for years and years.

And he sold his business just to

pay for the legal fees to stay the ownership,

the owner of it, because they were coming after him.

And that was legitimately for his business.

He just owned it before them.

And they went, no, we want it.

It does be ours.

just tried to take it from him,

but he kept fighting them, which is in that

case, I'm on his side.

You don't just get to own it because you want it.

It's not yours.

19:07 Lambo.com Domain Saga

So even if he is a bit of a chopper about it,

just tell him you don't want it.

You can't be like, no, no, I'm not buying

that off you.

By the way, I have it now.

Thanks.

We had it for, I can't remember what it was.

I think it might have been at the beginning

of TDC or something.

Someone got in contact and said,

I've gone and bought these domains.

Do you want to buy them off me?

No.

And then he was like, oh, well,

why don't you want it?

I'm not paying you more.

I'd have bought them.

I'll do it, we'll call it Dot IT or something.

Yeah.

Or LT, we'll have it through our new website.

We don't care.

Cream it.

It's fine.

Someone's gonna buy that.

So whoever's bought Cream Dot-com,

have it.

I think Cream Dot-com might exist.

Creamier, we don't have that.

Or cars, Rule everything around me Dot-com.

You'd have it mate.

Have it, we've already got one.

And if we do.

We've already got one.

And I'll tell you what, next year,

we got some some of them submerged.

I just have.

I'm wearing a test shirt under my jumper.

Ben's the only one that doesn't have it.

Thanks guys.

Yeah, that's unfortunate.

Didn't think you made it with me.

It's gonna be good.

But yeah, Lambo.com man has been what I owe

15 years battling and just lost the domain.

Could I see you?

Quite funny actually.

But anyway, shall we do something in Christmassy?

Yes, seriously, we've got some more news and

stuffs than whatever else, but I don't wanna

push Christmassy.

You're now gonna have to listen to us eat an

entire roast dinner.

No, I'm curious.

We do have some points, Santa,

but we won't do that yet.

We do have that.

We won't do that yet.

I'm very excited for that.

A naughty or nice list.

Here we go.

This will be, it's been a year.

Basically, it has been a year.

Since last month.

Since last month.

It's been a year since last month.

That's crazy hard work.

But we have been very fortunate to drive,

be passenger in, be around, lots of very cool

cars this year.

Cool cars?

Yeah.

So we must pick one good car,

the best car.

We've driven being in whatever this year and

the worst car of the year.

Would you like to kick off?

Would Ben like to kick off?

Ben?

Yes, I've just thought of one in a moment.

Hang on.

So I actually have, I couldn't nail either

down to just one, I have two for both,

is that okay?

Hold on, now hold on, now hold on,

I would like this to be rolled back.

I know what you're saying.

Well, I hope you do know what I'm gonna say,

because Will said to us, I'd like you to pick

three cars each.

And you said before this podcast started,

why don't we make it one, it should be one each.

And then we have three all together,

yeah, but then I shouldn't mind.

And then he told me I couldn't pick a specific car.

I didn't say that, I said it--

You got it when, you got it,

Master.

Yeah, no.

You got your own car, by the way.

Obviously, it's gonna be that.

I didn't say that, I said it.

Right.

I suggested that, can we not pick our own car?

'Cause logically, I guessed 2000,

you go Galada, and then there's a four conversation.

And then I go, I think you don't.

Overall, you need your naughty one and your nice one.

You made these rules.

No.

Yes, you did.

So you choose one.

You can do a special one.

Okay, here's one.

My least favorite is controversial.

Don it.

I have a call.

That's it.

Can you review this?

Two or five GTI.

What the hell?

Okay, what the heck?

What the heck?

Why is that?

Why?

I'm not saying it's the worst car.

It's a great car.

It just, it's not a bad car.

Ben, what do you vote is the worst car?

I vote this is the worst car.

No, no.

And my reason is that it's not the worst car.

No, it's your least favorite and your favorite.

Let me explain.

All right, go, go, guys.

Isn't this not a podcast?

Let's just have your question time with it.

Go, go, gadget, Ben.

The two or five GTI, I accept objectively is

a very cool car, very cool history.

It's also a very good car.

I never felt anything towards it.

I am filming part of it, didn't really care.

Remember, we got it.

Usually, I think we get it.

So for me, our list of car--

Well, don't you understand, because you had a

one, eight, two, clear.

Yeah, I know, but it just didn't--

You could literally like a successor,

almost.

I don't know why it didn't do it for me.

Okay, and your best car, I'm gonna make it two.

No, you're--

Okay, on my actual best car is the Corvette

that we had.

Oh, that is a--

'Cause that was up there for a bit.

That changed me.

Yeah.

Did you try?

No, I didn't trust it.

Jesus, you wouldn't have it anymore if I drove it.

We would be doing it.

Two seats, we'd have a little photo of Ben

saying in the more--

He would be facing the wrong way,

at least.

I'm assuming you're allowed.

Well, not that you're allowed,

it would have been the SUV.

No, I didn't want to be.

No, I'm not allowed, I'm not allowed--

The S2000, as much as that is a very special

moment to buy anything, the Z06,

is that us?

Yeah, it was a Z06 basically,

yeah.

LS7.

So it was a vert, so it's not--

Yeah, but that was by far the most,

like, I won't say life-changing,

but I got an offer, this is crazy.

The noise is crazy.

To be fair, since that day have been talking

about--

It's just, it ignited something in me,

so that, and then--

No, when we go back to America,

we need to take Ben to one of those

takeovers, with one of those,

like, C7, with--

Can you imagine C2 to take over?

Tinted rail lights.

Hi, guys, and a 360--

Do you mind if I jump in the middle?

Hello!

I hit me next!

Okay, so best car Z06, worst car being the

two of five.

Not worst.

Would you actually really--

No, no, no, no, favorite and least favorite.

'Cause if it's worst car, I'm gonna say

something that's actually bad.

Well, no, it's naughty or nice.

All right, naughty car.

Which one's not me?

I don't like that.

Which one isn't me?

The two of five.

Wow, I just kind of mean--

I just don't, I just don't do it for me.

All right, fine, Edwin.

For me, the best, and in the same vein as

Ben, it was the one that made me feel so,

so much thing about the

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thing.

Okay.

It was the Tuscan.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Tuscan, I think about that really quite often.

And it's actually one of the things that has,

in theory, it should be the 550.

Because the 550 confirmed, I will work

towards that and I will own it,

but I knew, I always knew I would.

The Tuscan, I was like, this is,

I like this, but it's kind of drive like a

bag of shit, isn't it?

And then it was the most glorious thing.

And that was driven on skinny little B-roads

in kind of winter.

I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna,

when we got down one of that shoot,

I was putting gloves on and stuff to set all cameras up.

It was like minus one.

It wasn't an appropriate place to be driving a Tuscan.

And yet, it was fantastic.

I would still love, I don't know that it will

ever happen because of the money for them.

But yeah, I'd just, it was life-changing in

the best way possible.

Now ask questions for you.

For me or to me?

To you.

Correctly, from me to you.

But you could do that as well if you wanted to answer.

Okay, here's a question.

Here's one from me.

Now, the Ferrari.

Yes.

You're gonna have to get rid of everything

you own to have the Ferrari.

Yeah.

But surely the Tuscan you could have.

And you could have the Tuscan for a year and

send it to America and make money.

Now he's, he's actually a nice whale.

Thank you.

And you can do it.

That's not a usual Ben way.

I know, yeah.

Here is my actual thought on this.

Buying cars.

Here's my genuine thought on that.

If the Ferrari in France, if Mr.

Jeremy, and Merry Christmas Jeremy,

please get back to me whenever you,

you know, I hope you're having a great one.

If that car falls through, I think that is

what I would do.

'Cause I've been looking at Tuscan,

'cause I've been keeping an eye on them.

I just loved to own one for a bit.

But the issue is the color.

Just like the last podcast we talked about,

color's the biggest thing for me.

And it needs to be in flip paint.

But that's hard to find.

Sword-flish.

Please get it right.

'Cause I remember 'cause there is a lot of,

there are a lot of videos to be fair,

I think you'll admit as well,

where you say this is like a dream car,

'cause you're afflicted by it.

Oh, I have hundreds.

But there are, the Tuscan was one where we filmed it.

I remember thinking, he really likes this,

I did it, you really liked it.

And you still mention it now.

Yeah, yeah.

I actually think you've mentioned that more

than you have the Ferrari.

I have, but that's because the Ferrari has

always been in my mind.

It's like the Gallardo.

Also, you always, I guess the thing is,

it's similar to, that many of the cars we

talk about today, is drove the Ferrari,

but it wasn't the ultimate version.

No, I wanted to do stuff.

I wanted to do stuff.

The one you have in your mind is different.

Exactly.

Had you driven that car, it'd probably be

that car beyond anything else,

if you know what I mean.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I stand a car, like, there are little

bits, you drive it and you come away going,

when you come away from the car and you go,

there is nothing I would change about.

And I genuinely think about the Tuscan.

Yeah.

I could own that Tuscan, or Oliver's Tuscan,

and do nothing and love it.

Yes.

We should actually do that.

What?

It's actually called TVR, not Oliver's Tuscan.

(laughing)

Otherwise it'll be O-L-R, O-V-R.

O-V-R.

The question that we got asked the other day,

was that you that asked it?

Are there any cars that you'd never do

anything to?

That's actually for this example.

Oh yeah.

I would do some things, but--

Wheels?

No, I'd leave the wheels.

Wow.

I'd do spaces and loads and some other bits,

but like, 'cause it's almost,

TVR's are almost like they're modified from the factory.

Yeah, exactly, they're perfect.

They've got like AP brakes.

Yeah.

And a loud exhaust, it's like,

okay, I have nothing to do.

Oh, me?

(laughing)

Of course I know.

And then the worst car, I must think in,

yes, three was not--

That was last year, last September.

Last year, yeah, yeah.

Sorry, just thinking about things--

'Cause it's difficult to choose,

'cause we'd like many of the things we've

had, but there have been some disappointment this year.

Will, do you wanna tell everyone your

favorite--

Please, I'm just thinking through the videos.

Mine's blazingly obvious.

Well, actually, maybe not as blazingly obvious.

Cool.

No, I know what it is, 'cause it's not,

not a car I own.

I would love to have chosen that,

but it has to be the Mercilago.

It absolutely has to be.

Though the Glado is a dream,

Mercilago is the dream.

And like what Edwin was saying about the

Tuscan, driving that Mercilago,

that was it.

There is that car, it sounded it looked,

and it felt exactly how I wanted it to be.

There is nothing I could have changed other

than maybe keeping the car, forever.

Nothing I would have changed about that

experience, and it was genuinely something

that I was like, okay.

Time to lock in, chaps.

I think I have one.

And I've actually just forgotten it again.

Do you like me to go to?

Yeah, please.

Okay, so while Edwin's just forgotten,

I can remember again.

My worst one, it was a toughy,

because there are some cars that I've found a

little bit forgettable.

One for seven GTA scrung to mine.

Yeah, actually, I've forgotten about that.

It's forgettable, but I don't think it's bad

enough to go on a naughty list.

No.

The car that sits firmly on the naughty list

is a Jaguar XFR.

Oh yeah, that is a fair point.

And I don't actually know which one it is.

That's fair.

It's just Jaguar XFR.

That's fair, but as a car.

And as a car, it's fantastic.

But Bob, I never want to see it again.

Or another Jaguar-

Yeah.

It made me completely, even though I love the

car, the car is fantastic.

I think I actually said it's almost as good

as an M5 or as good for much less money.

But the absolute headache that both of those

cars caused, is, I don't think there has been

another car on the channel yet,

maybe, and it's not more than the S3.

The S3 was a headache, but the XFR-

To the cost of money was more complicated.

Absolutely.

And there would always be something else.

The first one, we couldn't fix.

Yeah.

Like that's the first car on this channel

that has happened.

Yeah.

That we've just had to give up on.

The thing is-

Let's just give it away.

Is that everyone says Jags are unreliable,

but we bought, and God, they were cheaper

ones, of course, and that one was crashed,

but stuff like, you're telling me that,

okay, we're gonna buy two separate cars.

They're the same model, but two completely

different ones, different lives,

different mileages, like almost double,

one has almost double the mileage,

and owning them within like a month,

that much stuff goes wrong, it's a bad car.

Yeah, we did beat the shit out of it.

Yeah, but also-

I will say that.

They are both bottom of, do you know what,

the blue one less so, I will say actually,

the blue one less so, that was a,

one of the cheapest cars for sale,

but I don't think it was that bad.

No, green one was an unknown car from Copart.

And it turned out that lots of the stuff that

went wrong with it was because of previous

people not looking after it,

not cleaning up with that kind of thing.

But still, two cases where they both caused

ridiculous headaches.

And two timing chain failures.

Yeah.

On separate cars with different managers,

different lives, like mental,

and I know, yeah, fine, that does happen,

but if you have a 500 horsepower car,

surely it should be able to have 500

horsepower back, but it should be able to be,

not beaten on, like ragged, but like if it's

warmed up properly, you do a pull,

and it doesn't make a timing chain go loose,

much like what happens.

I mean, look at the amount of GTRs on Earth,

they get at like all of them.

Not all of them, but let's say the majority

of our 35 GTRs get abused and yet the

majority of them are on the road.

Yeah, they have problems, but they don't do

that where they just die.

I do think that I'm sure that there'll be

either later cars or well looked after ones

and they're fine, but in our case,

that's firmly on my, at the top of the

naughty list for me.

What was it?

That's tough one.

It's the Cayenne.

Oh!

What?

Because the Cayenne, I think of literally of

anyone in this, in our extended universe,

me and him were the tightest.

I took that Cayenne everywhere to go and get

pick up parts.

I went up to the top of the country,

across the country, all over in that car.

I think I probably did the most miles in

this, 'cause it was kind of communal between everyone.

I love it and I loved it and I literally

moved it around today.

And when I got in today, I was like,

you let us know.

down.

It broke, we fixed it, we helped it,

and then it died.

And it obviously was fixable.

But even then, driving it today after

Taylor's done some work to it and got most of

it back, I'm running.

It doesn't feel the same.

He's lost his magic.

His magic touch of being untouched and yet it

would just feel like it would go forever.

Even moving it around there,

I was like, you've got to break,

aren't you?

You're not going to work.

You felt delicate after, genuinely.

So that's completely fair.

Sorry, man.

Now I changed mine.

To what?

two.

I thought that let me down as well.

That's not fair.

It's another one.

That's not fair.

That's not fair.

No, I'm not going to change it.

You have that one at all.

I think it's fair.

Sorry, you beat its head in.

Not that much, though.

I'm not having deferred maintenance.

I'm not having deferred maintenance.

I went into that was maintained very well.

Before you?

No, I maintained it.

I did in that car.

Like 10,000 miles.

I did two service.

Hey, look, someone looks after that.

That's what these people are doing.

It's like 100k miles.

had a new belt.

I spent a lot of money on that car.

I lost quite a lot of money on it.

But what I'm saying is that it gave up after it.

Also, one of you, which one was when you said

to me, well, you only did like seven laps.

It should have survived that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look at your E36.

I mean, Brian, it did eventually go.

Look at your E36.

Yeah, look at it.

You did like, what?

50 laps in it.

Yeah.

And it was fine.

Do you know what, actually?

I mean, my consideration.

My diff.

Yeah, you did it, but it was one mountain by,

right?

Yes.

It was an entire gearbox.

Dying.

My consideration for my, for my Nautica was

my blue clear.

Really?

Oh, just because in the same fashion as the

Jag, every time I did something,

something else would happen.

But I've now.

Fine, you know, I've been cleansed myself.

You get your, what, some honorable mentions

for your good ones.

I've got mentions, good ones.

Glaude, obviously.

Yeah.

Both Glaude.

Well, actually, no, just my one.

Who else has got things?

I need to remember things.

Ben, do yours, 'cause I've...

Well, can I say something?

My old M3 as well.

Can I suggest one for you?

Yeah.

I'm not trying to speak for you.

Well, but one that I know you're like,

The Hwara are.

Oh, yeah.

Secret me.

Oh, sorry, yeah.

Because, yeah.

But you experimented, 'cause we,

me and Edwin left, and you went back into the

event and sat and waited for it to grab a track.

And I listened to it good with it as well.

Yeah, no, that is one of them.

But I've kind of heard that before.

I'm trying to think of things that either

driven or been in, 'cause that's one of them.

Yeah.

I think that makes it more special.

Drum molding through again was painful,

but cool.

Glaude will buy in the glaude and driving

both of those was very, very cool.

What else to be doing in the US?

Hommer.

Hommer.

I do love that.

Hommer.

Love it.

I don't think I'd put it up there.

It's a memorable, it is memorable.

We're not off on that car.

I remember that.

More than a lot of other cars were driven.

The Hellcat.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, sorry, actually, top of the list of the

list that isn't the top, as in third place.

It would go, most of that would go,

Glaude, Mustang, the GT350.

Oh, yeah.

That car, I would say it's the most memorable

after I've forgotten it for the last five cars.

But that car, I think about regularly,

it honestly was, I would like to buy a car like that.

It would have to sit in a collection of other things.

You'd have to, yeah.

But it's be moneyed.

That car is so cool.

I was really impressed with that car.

Ben.

I want to say Mersh Lager, because you got to drive it.

I've got to drive that and that was mental.

What else have we, I haven't driven very much.

So we see, you guys have driven a lot of stuff.

I've been a passenger in it and filmed a lot

of stuff, which is cool.

So I can really speak from that angle of it.

What have we had on the channel that I'd driven?

There's six stuff there.

It's pretty cool.

That is very good.

Very good.

Very good.

Very good.

Very good.

I was good, yeah.

That actually was quite...

Oh, the Chevy Traverse that I rented for a

day as a camera car.

Francisco.

Yeah.

That was good?

That's me?

Yeah, that was good.

Yeah, 'cause it's from San Francisco.

Did you enjoy filling that car up as well?

No.

Very difficult.

Oh, you're done.

Sorry, you were so keen to, you know,

reel off a list.

I thought we had one prepared.

Trustee, you were so keen.

You lost me the question.

Yeah, I know.

That's what I was expecting.

Oh, I don't know.

Interesting to me.

S2000's still not mentioned.

S2000's on the list.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The door, the X5, up there for me.

Now, now, hold on a second.

That got me.

That has got me.

That has

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got me to, to, to so many shoots and it's

done so much.

And that car did, it is, is us in the other day.

That is up there with the client as one of

the, one of the big heroes of TDC.

Ben, Ben, just of my cement,

you just let me, his X5.

I love you so much bang straight to the back of it.

No, what I'm saying is that,

is that, that, that car took Will back and

forward from North Amsterdam here every day

for like, how long?

Three months?

We described a daily track.

No, but, but it's a long journey.

Then me and then.

Talk about it like it's a donkey or something.

What I'm saying is that that car,

that car never complained.

It had issues, but never complained.

Honestly, like, you know, it's never said a word.

It's fantastic.

It was a great car.

It was, yeah.

And Jamie, he also says it's fantastic.

Exactly.

It really is a little knife in the ribs.

It is that that car has provided a lot for

TDC this year.

It has.

Log tracking shots to that car.

Three different people at TDC.

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

And I think that's up there for me.

I didn't drive that many cars.

I didn't drive a Galardo.

I'd drive a much longer briefly.

I'd been in one.

Sure.

I'll put that on this.

Possibly the loudest ever car.

On the day that you got it.

Ben's ever growing list.

No, it was nice.

On the day you got it and you took it all,

each hour in it, that was nice.

That was a good day.

When it was loud, that was rather incredible.

Sometimes I do miss that noise.

Yeah, probably.

Right.

We've got Tuscan.

You said that.

550 is first below that.

Then it's the turbo TVR.

Oh, yeah.

That is, I will build.

And also worryingly two TVRs on my list.

I don't want to become Englishman,

Englishman, because that's a rough one to get into.

I mean, well, people listening with rovers right now.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Sorry, the TVR, I'll never forget when we had

on the go-kart track.

And just from last time just hearing all the

turbo blow off every time you went around the

corners was just great.

And then it's E55, because that guy,

that's me.

I do believe that car is me,

the most me car.

That's your boy.

Other than the starlet, which was also very much me.

I was about to say, I just thought of two

more, and it was the Fiesta and the Corsa.

Yeah.

The Corsa, because that was right at the

beginning of the year.

That was one of the, not first ones,

because it's some other cool stuff on the channel.

But up until that point, we took that car out

for the first time.

I was like, this is a really cool car.

Yeah.

Like a really, really cool car.

and the Fiesta obviously that we're doing recently.

Yeah.

Is that, is, you know what Ben?

We've now listed off a big list.

Yeah, I was going to say enough.

A, if you don't watch TBC channel,

apologies.

Thanks for sticking with that.

And B, we could probably do just,

we just do all of the cars on the channel.

Yeah.

We only buy stuff we like anyway.

Exactly.

But let us know in the comments what your

favorite cars that we worked on or owned or

drove this year.

Some of your favorites, tell us your any,

give us your, your stories, what you've been up through.

We will have a read through,

pack some non-Christmasy things,

but still quite funny, hopefully.

We'll do some news things.

What have we got?

We got Brabas and Bentley.

Ben, you know this.

I didn't know it was a thing,

but Ben, you put it in.

I've done a huge amount.

Okay.

I know there is 888 horsepower,

Bentley Continental.

And what there is, I put it in here,

I saw it very briefly.

And that, as a Brabas machine,

it's not bad.

The one, the, the, the, for the people who

can't see it, it's a Bentley Continental

jazzed up, which I think is still wrong

because it's meant to be an elegant,

car, but it is not ridiculous,

Brabas.

But here's my, here's my opinion,

my thought on why it's like good looking is

because you'd be some, some people would be

hard pressed not to think that was just an OEM kit.

Yeah.

Which is weird because now the manufacturers

that are doing aftermarket stuff that stick

more close to the OEM stuff are better than

if you look in the 80s, 90s,

like Koenig specials and stuff,

they're mental, but they're cooler than just

a little lip kit.

Yeah.

It's weird that it's now first because it's

so terrible like an M performance kit.

Yeah, exactly.

But yeah, but also just a considerable amount

more power, 888.

I think I'm fairly sure all continental GTs

now are V8s.

Oh, really?

I don't think they'll be 12 is the thing anymore.

I'm pretty sure that this is a V8 as well,

which is what surprised me even more.

I thought W12 surely that the W12's got headroom.

It's not that sort of so stressed of an engine.

Is this related to RS6 Eurus?

Is it that four liter twin turbo V8?

Now, I, isn't the cut the new facelift one hybrid?

And that's what I'm just reading.

I might have made that up, but I feel like I heard that.

The tuned version of the latest,

it's a plug-in hybrid continental GT speed.

So if some of that, some of that pure is coming out.

So they're adding in the electric motors.

So the, the V8, no, no, is in the back power.

No, no, there's in standards.

The Bentley has a, is a plug-in hybrid.

Oh, okay.

Because it's just because it's just V8 now.

And I think someone will know something about

something at all, but I'm pretty sure it's

just a twin turbo V8.

So the V8 now makes about 700 horsepower.

They've added almost 200 horsepower of,

of motors as in that's the Bentley side.

Okay.

But still, that's just a ridiculously fast thing.

I believe this, the power figure should never

be combined.

I don't want to hear, because when I hear

like 1000 horsepower, whoa, I'm like 300 of

that's electric.

Nah, no, I want to hear what the engine is.

But they're still making it.

Of course, no, I agree, but I want them as

separate figures.

I want it, I want it to be 1000 horsepower combined.

Cool.

Now I'm, because otherwise I assume Yeah,

exactly.

Otherwise I assume it is just engine power.

Yeah.

With then that added on after.

And they go, oh, sorry.

Oh, you know, it's 900 horsepower electric.

I don't know, one liter three point out back.

The BMW I am.

Okay, great.

I've got some cream silence in the middle of that.

Another piece of news from Ben,

I'm hoping you might know something about this one.

I don't.

MR2?

Yeah, what I actually wanted is to bring this

up, so we could have looked,

threw it together, because I don't,

I didn't know this was a thing.

Apparently, So from what I understand,

they have repatented the name,

MR2, and then they have also talked about

some form of development in terms of reusing

the engine from the GR Yaris,

let's say.

But I know nothing other than speculations.

I don't like the way that looks.

It looks, it looks very Gran Turismo,

which, yeah, I don't know.

If they made a small GRGT, well,

that's what I was going to say.

I do think though, with what we've seen,

if that's concept, fine.

But what Toyota's converted into road cars,

I like what they've been doing.

So as long as they don't stray too far from

that, we'll get something cool.

I know it's way above what the MR2 was in

terms of like price bracket and class or whatever.

But if they made like a mirror spec,

it was cool like Yaris engine or whatever,

or maybe a smaller version of that V8,

whatever.

And it was a mirror sort of size and power

and proportions and manual, then I could hear it.

Well, the other thing is MR2s,

Mach 2s and 3s, people were always swapping

V6s into them.

Maybe that would be cool to go into that 20 years later.

All right, we'll swap the engine.

Next up, Ben, another piece of your news that

you're looking quite blank in the eyes at me

when I say it is that the more news on the

Genesis, the 20 we have this.

Now I only put that in for one point and one

point only, as Edwin actually did mention

this earlier on.

I think Genesis are making some of the best

looking new cars.

I agree as well, the concepts of what they're doing.

So the Genesis, the G90, the wing back is

what they're calling it.

is their wagon thing, the one that they

debuted that has the silly cool side strikes.

They have introduced some new information.

There's nothing solid on it.

They now believe, or lots of people have been

talking about, that it will potentially be

that 3.2 V8, same one that was gonna be in

the big sports car in there.

But the man, the myth, the legend,

he's called Luke Donkelwalk,

he's the guy who designed the Glider and the

Mercier Margot.

Key is the Chief Creative Officer for Genesis.

And he said, "At the moment,

there is, let's say, a multiplication of

SUVs, and this fast growth will create a saturation."

This is when other typologies of cars are

going to become attractive again.

This is why I strongly believe in not having

a typology monoculture.

Now, get rid of a little waffle.

Bro say in too many, too many 8-4x4s.

Yeah, 2x4x4s and you're all gonna get it.

He's saying, run me some wagons.

mistake.

So if the man who is designing the mini MX-5

note, the Lamborghini Galado Mercilago and

also I just looked on here at some other cars

that he has done, this man has done.

He's Belgian.

He is done.

He's Belgian.

Head of design at Lamborghini from 98,

meaning he did the Lamborghini Diablo VT,

the Mercilago and the Galado.

He was also voted, wherever I see this here,

Nobel Peace Prize.

No, not that one.

I'd give him that.

alone.

This is, I love this.

This is really good.

He was the design director of Volkswagen

Group Bentley, Lamborghini, Skoda and Audi.

In 2022, a jury panel, he went to court for

this, of 102 journalists named him the World

Car Person of the Year for significantly

improving the automotive industry.

Now, B, I want that.

Yeah.

I want TDC to get that.

World Car People of the Year.

I think we should at least choose it.

We should be a deciders of World Car Person.

I'd like to be in the jury for it.

How's that been?

Worst Car Person of the Year.

But if, right, naughty person of the year,

if the World Car Person of the Year is behind

this, please, man, we're so close to

greatness.

Please make it happen.

And it has an actual engine and it looks very nice.

It's not over complicated.

It's not ridiculous.

You know what?

This is the type of thing that I would put

myself in a horrible debt to finance.

I do the like 600 billion pound balloon

payment that I could never pay off knowing for.

Well, that I at least get like six months of use.

It does have, it has slight hairs of sort of

take-hand, coach built take-hand,

or like the, was it the cross take-hand.

But that's been in the previous photo where

it has that little cutout on the part on the wide arch.

It's nice.

Simply.

Little bits of design like that are what's

missing where they go.

Actually, I think we'll just put line actually.

Only thing is.

And zeds and crosses.

That with the front plate was going to ruin

that front end.

No, I think it'd be okay.

I think you get one.

here, V-shape plate.

It's going to ruin that front.

That's lovely little middle section.

Genesis confirmed don't want people to run plates.

Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

You don't need it.

You don't need it.

It'll block the air or whatever.

So, yes, sir.

I'm very, very impressed.

Shout out to you, Genesis.

And that is all the news we've got.

Now, next on this list, before we get to some

more Christmasy things, is we were quite lucky.

We got invited to the Ford Heritage Center.

Hell, yes.

Ford reached out.

Ford Racing reached out.

to us, somehow, and said, "Love your,

love your work."

Do you want to do some stuff?

And we said, "Love your work."

And we said, "Oh, God, I love your stuff."

And we specifically requested,

"Can we go?"

It was the first thing.

We were on the phone with them,

and we said, "We would like to come to the

Heritage Center."

They said to us, "Oh, we said,

can we please come to the Heritage Center?"

They said, "Oh, we thought you could ask us

for like press calls and access to things."

And we went, "No, no, we just want to look

around your old cars."

And that's the next question we're looking to ask.

But the first thing was Heritage Center.

Lots of manufacturers have a Heritage fleet,

but there are more and more now that are

getting rid of them, selling them.

But Renault have just got rid of some

concepts recently that have sort of French

fleet, Mitsubishi, really sadly,

sold off their entire fleet in the UK a few years ago.

And they all sold for ridiculous money.

They're like, there was a Tommy McAnon signed

by Tommy McAnon with ridiculously low miles.

And it's quite sad because they're never ever

going to get those cars.

No.

Once it's gone, you are never going to buy

those cars back.

It seems that lots of manufacturers don't

really care about that.

It's just a, it's a sort of black hole that's

like, well, it's not selling cars.

So why do we need it?

Yeah.

Whereas the Ford one is, and it's not just a few cars.

No.

Audi have got a few and whatever.

The best thing if you're, if you're real

nerds like us, it's not just the best,

it's not just RS's or Escort Mexico.

There's just Mark three and four Fiesta's in there.

Yeah, it's normal ones, but nice ones.

Yeah.

So Ben, you, a usual video like us,

walking around retro power, how long was that?

I was gonna say this, right?

So a usual sort of walk around video like

this, we would do probably 20 minutes.

And we're there most of the day and we get,

it feels like we shoot quite a lot for it.

Yeah.

I wasn't there.

No.

Jay, other videographer went to film with you guys.

He said, "I'll send you the footage this evening."

I didn't receive the footage,

which was interesting.

I was like, okay, message Jay.

He said, "Yes, sorry, I'm still transferring

this so much of it."

Next day it comes in, it's a lot.

Anyway, fast forward today, Joe,

other editor has been on it.

He sent through a one hour 20 minute edit.

And that is, and he says, like,

everything out that I think I can without losing content.

And I was like, which means you guys,

I mean, that's an errand 20 minutes of pure video.

So that's four hours of fair in mind.

We spoke about 70% of the cars.

Yeah, if that, we actually, Charlie,

who works at Ford, said to us,

"What cars do you want to look at?"

And he then sent us a list

and he said, "Are you sure you want the full list?

You don't want to just tell me you're interested?"

And we said, "No."

And that's the full list.

And by Jeeves.

It was a list.

Not all of it's there.

Some of the cars, they go out to events or

they go out to the US or whatever else.

But it was a list of, well in excess of 100

cars, well in excess.

And we sent a few back that we were

interested in and talked about most of them,

to be fair.

So this collection is not public.

They're considering making it public.

So you won't be able, nobody can just go in

and look at this.

So we're very, very thankful that they let us in.

If you want over the Christmas period,

then is it coming over Christmas?

No.

In a few weeks time, 9th of January,

there you go.

In a few weeks time, if you are looking for

things to do, you can watch over an hour of

us being genuine nerds about Ford's.

But more important than that,

Ford have given us two press cars over Christmas.

And it's been, it's up to you to do something.

I'd be so excited about this.

Because they have given us, just so cuddly,

a dark horse Mustang and a Ranger Raptor,

Will gets one I get one for Christmas,

Ben unfortunately nothing for you yet.

Sportkale or something for you.

Yeah, that's like a Fiesta one liter.

Gone mate, gone.

Actually, not gone.

We'll talk

50:36 Ford Heritage Center Visit and Press Car Gifts

about that in coming weeks back,

supposedly.

As an electric car.

I've given a lot of thought to this.

So, Ben, you need to choose who gets what car first.

I don't want to offend any of you though.

Because we'll swap over Christmas,

so we each get a turn in each.

So if we've got like three weeks-ish with the car.

Right, I'll choose under one condition.

You get, I know it's hard to get exact,

but I want you to both have equal amounts to

have each car.

Yeah, okay.

Because if it's a case of one person,

you get it for like two weeks and everyone

gets it for four days, I feel like a bit of a

penis giving one person.

No, not that they're worse cars,

but you know what I mean?

We'll swap them out.

Because also, the thing I want to try them

both, so I don't care that much.

But you must choose who stops it.

I've already stopped it.

Okay, here we go.

Okay, no offense to anyone if you don't.

I mean, they're both great cars.

We're not saying that.

It's just what one is- I don't know what's going on.

It's an annotation of Ben is back.

I don't want to- No offense to anyone.

I mean, only us.

Right, Edwin, you are taking the ranger.

Because, and we're taking the Mustang.

And there's a reason for this,

right?

Okay.

Edwin is- You're a country living man.

I am right now.

I think over Christmas, I can imagine you

doing the Christmas shopping in your big SUV.

But you can't imagine me doing skid out of junctions.

I can't really do that with the bicycle.

I think that's a- Well, do we start a year,

put it that way.

Okay, okay.

I think that over Christmas,

when you know it's- You want to help cozy in

that car, you're having that.

And I think, Will, whilst, you know,

there's no McGahn in your life currently.

So, perhaps performance car mustn't destroy us.

No, that is- That's fair.

And I wouldn't have thought of it like that.

I was quite excited- Well, I'm quite excited

about both, to be fair.

But what's quite exciting is that those cars

are being deflated, basically afterwards,

so that they won't be pressed on anymore.

So, we get to keep them there.

But we'll be the last ones.

Yeah.

We'll be like- There'll be journalists

everywhere who've driven those cars,

and we are going to be the final ones,

not journalists.

But still, very, very cool.

We've had- We haven't really had many press cars.

We've had the Dacius and Aero,

which have the Renault 5.

Yep.

And we've had- That's maybe it.

The Ford.

That's it.

At least the Fords, which are the most

exciting out of all of those,

really.

So, thank you very much, Ford.

Merry Christmas, Ford.

Is that okay?

Well, I've checked out.

That's how I'm happy with that.

Not one's better than the other.

I just didn't want someone to be like,

"I really was looking forward to that one specifically."

I'll be honest, I legit have been excited for

both equally.

Okay.

Well, I want you to swap over Christmas.

Yeah.

So, we're going to get those on Monday.

There will be videos.

There will be two separate videos on each car

on the second channel.

We also might have, if Ford decided that they

don't quite like us, some more videos coming

with some of the other driving sort of like

heritage fleet.

Ford GT is getting dailyed.

This is the thing we did.

Well, to give you, it's not just like UK spec forwards.

They have everything from Model T's,

race cars, rally cars, all the way up to,

I mean, the end, no more.

Some of them are drivable as well.

Two, the most recent Ford GT.

Yeah.

And we said of Mach 3, of Mach 1,

if you're a nerd, you know what that means.

Mach 1 Ford GT from the '60s.

2005 and Mach 3.

It was quite scary, actually,

because yeah, they have GT40,

05 GT, and then the 2017 GT,

right next to each other.

I wouldn't say they're all easy cars to get

in and out of.

And they're not parked, they're not parked

close, like supermarket close.

But they're also, Ben, I don't know if you'd know this.

We actually like children, they said to us,

by the way, you can like sit in them.

And so, we're like, excitedly ran around

sitting in cars.

We wanted to sit in, and we took turns

sitting in the 2005 GT and going,

literally holding steering wheel and going,

oh.

GT?

Not brand new one.

But the most, yeah, it's very cool.

Is it?

Yeah, and it is very easy to get in and out

of, you know.

Yeah, it was very graceful.

It's not graceful.

And we had to specifically ask,

because GT is like electric door hinges and

whatever else, and the battery was dead.

They said, we might not be able to open it.

And they very kindly said that they would go

and do it.

So you went and got the manual key and did it.

Also, actually, do you know what?

I shout out to the guys that run that place,

because a lot of you will think that it's a

million people running it.

There are two guys.

And a volunteer guy who comes in and they

clean them, they maintain them as if they're

their own cars.

And he said, so they don't have any budget

from Ford to do this.

They have to spend their own money,

and then they get expensed back anything they

need to do.

But they are on Facebook Marketplace,

looking for parts to fix these cars.

And you'll see in the video,

they are immaculate.

They go out and get driven.

They come back, they clean them,

they detail them, they polish them.

a few heritage-type things where they're kind

of forgotten.

The cars just sit, whereas Ford Man in

England, he's keeping those nice.

And there's guys that MOT slips on passenger

seats 'cause they're maintaining them.

They look after them literally as if they're

their own cars.

And they kindly said to us, we can not do

where we want, but we can open them,

have a look at them, look at them.

And it's not just broke, there are quite

special, there are development cars.

That's really cool.

There are some escort Cosworths with some

really cool stories.

They're all pre-production development cars

over test cars, the RS 500 Focus,

that was the press car, that would have been

the one that Alex drove back in the day.

So many of those, and some of them are still

driven by journalists.

And it's really cool.

Not to get you too excited, but there is a

pink street KA.

There is.

That was just a quick one.

Not sponsored, nothing to do with that.

Ford just said, do you wanna look around our,

sure.

Yes.

Shout out, thank you very much,

Ford.

We had four hours to, sorry,

five hours to be there, and we used the entire time.

Depends the whole time.

They said in the email, thanks for being

punctual and for using up the whole time.

But the guys, they're really,

really cool, they know their stuff.

I think they're really, they get a little bit

hesitant with some people that come in that

might just come and mess around,

but I think they understood that we were,

we were one and the same.

Yeah, they understood him in seconds when

they make it.

Oh yeah, we walked in and I went,

is this, what is the color code on that?

Is that this one?

And they offered that from 71.

But a really cool place, if you ever do get

an, I think they do it with car clubs

sometimes, or if you work at Ford,

if you ever do get to go there,

go there, it's very cool.

I think Ford's that much, there are some cool

cars with some really cool stories in there.

Next.

Next.

Back to Christmas, wore out of news,

wore out of things.

Is it time to?

So, I think we're on to, we decided to do a

secret Santa, but just between the three of us.

So, it's not secret because it's basically

impossible to do that secretly.

I wonder who I've got.

Who was I first?

Who was I first?

Is it Rock Paper?

You know what Ben, I think, would you like yours first?

Now, so who's got who?

I've got Ben.

I've got Edwin.

Still, there we go.

I think we've sat perfectly for that.

Joe, what?

I don't know.

I can go first.

All right, cool.

I'll give Edwin his present.

Okay, let's do that.

Okay, I need to get it from my car.

I know what it is.

You know what it is?

Well, you can't get it before class.

I actually think this is quite a good present.

Also, maybe it isn't, so enjoy that.

Okay, well,

that's, you know, always nice to temper expectations.

It's

got you a nice carbon handbrake.

It's just his dick.

57:26 Secret Santa Gift Exchange

So, you having a good Christmas or having a busy mate?

I'm eating brussels sprouts again.

Oh, there we go.

Sorry for those listening.

Ben's alarm's got off on his daily driver.

Oh, here he comes.

Here we go.

Yeah, my alarm got off.

I did hear your alarm go off.

Now, what?

No, sorry.

I'll wait 'til--

What is this?

Right, Ben's back in his seat.

Ben's back in and what he's brought in.

Right.

Now, because we're sitting at a podcast,

you're gonna have to throw it.

I'll bring it to you in a second.

Okay.

What I will say, I'm gonna preface this.

Oh, bro, I've got a month.

I've got a prelude on.

Number one.

It is currently the 11th of December,

I think.

I ran out of time.

I haven't bought any wrapping paper yet.

Now, this isn't how Christmas present works.

No, no, no.

You don't pre-empt what people are gonna say.

You just give the gift and then let the gift talk.

No, so I had a wrapper, so I have had to use tin foil.

Okay, is it a rose chicken in there?

(all laughing)

Shout out to my brother who gave me this idea.

It's quite good though, isn't it?

'Cause you don't need any acetate.

Then it's going to hand me a literal,

it is, you know, a shoebox sized thing

covered in tin foil.

Well, it does look like food.

It's not food.

It's a scam and awesome.

Oh, and have your present.

This is in vain of apps.

It's inspiration for next year.

Oh!

Oh!

Can you guess what's fancy?

Thanks so much.

Here we go.

Thanks so much.

I'm going to wait.

I do, we are aware that this is an audio podcast.

You must describe what you're experiencing.

Edwin is unwrapping the prison.

I've opened, it's a fleece of some sort now.

I'll be honest, a fleece, I'm already happy.

I know.

I'm already happy.

Oh, now that's actually very cool,

Benjamin.

That is, that is a Ferrari fleece.

That is, also, that's a legit 1998 Ferrari fleece.

That's insane.

Now, I told Will, and he made a good point,

which is that if you wear that in your 550

when you get it, you will like a penis.

Oh, really big time.

But it's inspiration.

Now, here's what's going to happen.

The other option is that, oh,

it smells like rich people.

I don't know.

It really does.

It smells like Jeremy's.

It smells like old rich people.

This is not like Ben, does it?

This is a very cool gift, Ben.

Thank you very much.

That's okay.

There are the two options.

I wear it in the unit and ruin it.

I only wear it when I drive a 550.

No, you can't do that.

Which is a huge penis move, which I like,

and I would like to do.

Although I will say, it's not as bad as some

Ferrari stuff.

You know you get Ferrari, man,

who's got--

Red.

Yeah.

Red jacket with all the sponsors on.

Whereas that is, it's a black fleece with a Ferrari logo.

Exactly.

You could feasibly be a salesman.

Wait, I've left the price on it.

Don't look at that.

Is it beyond the budget?

We did set a budget, I think we may have--

I want our budget blasted the budget by how much?

Do you know 50p?

Bloody hell, Ben.

Can't believe it.

But only because I paid for next day shipping.

Ben, this is very nice.

Thank you very much.

There's one thing.

It's a large.

Yes, but the measurements on the website were

that of an extra large to Excel.

Okay, so it should fit you.

After this, I'm gonna try it on.

But I'm gonna see.

For context, I used to--

I quite like, just sorry, I know I'm just

interrupting you.

So, yeah, and I'm like a two Excel tour,

like an Excel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What size have you been?

Like a large.

Oh, interesting.

That was a, you just bought himself a gift.

So, I'm gonna try it on.

It's too small for me.

Oh, it doesn't fit you.

I could take that.

Oh, I mean, I'll wear it for you.

No, if it doesn't fit you.

Oh, you mean you look silly in the Ferrari

anyway, so I might as well.

It's inspiration for your purchase next year.

You know what, it's happening next year.

The context being is that I quite like vintage clothing.

I used to have a company that sold it and

that sort of thing.

I used to come in like car throw stuff with

different things.

And everyone got, "Oh, that's cool."

That's cool.

That's true.

That's why instead I've got a vintage Lamborghini jumper.

It really upsets me.

I have the same feeling about your

Lamborghini thing, that if I wear it in the

glardo--

Yeah.

But the Lamborghini--

Now I'm cocking on this.

So I found that.

Have you ever told a story about your puffer

jacket in the Lamborghini?

I do have a bright yellow puffer jacket that

suddenly you might have seen on the channel

once or twice.

And my girlfriend has banned me from ever

just being within a hundred meters of it in

the Lamborghini.

It looks a little bit charlie sloth with the Lamborghini.

Yeah, it looks really quite interesting.

Sort of like someone in the back of a central C video.

It's a little bit rough.

Right.

I won't match those two ever.

Is it my turn for you?

No, let's do it.

Here we go.

I've got mine just down here.

I have no idea what this is.

Edwin, I asked--

Oh my gosh, I dropped it.

I asked Edwin today, have you got Will's thing?

And he said, "Hope fingers crossed it comes today."

No, there are two presents.

What the hell is that?

Here we go.

Why have you bought me a Swedish flag?

No, well, that is, I didn't have wrapping paper.

I got three there, so I used two microfibers

and some tape.

That's quite cool, that's quite good.

It's light.

Now, I'm interested to see, you may actually

have this, and I'm really hoping you don't.

So, this is, we'll see.

It turns out it's a full-sized Lamborghini

glardo, because it's really tightly into a box.

Is it a pack of C4?

(laughs)

I'm ready to have you guys got one of these already.

You already have one of these already.

Okay, okay, it's a Russian doll.

We've gone into the box.

Yeah, no, look, I'm quite lazy.

I just repackaged it from--

Okay, it's the taped with, that's quite strong tape.

This is like Christmas where you watch

someone open a gift and you're like,

just open it.

The box is open.

I get rid of the front gifts.

Sorry, everybody.

Oh, sorry, everybody.

Here we go.

Well, that's not a nice way.

You get nervous around gifts.

I don't know, I get nervous receiving them

and giving them.

Okay.

Will's opening up.

There's a bubble wrap, here we go.

Hold the line, throwing the box,

there's nothing left in there,

is there?

Where's the fire for Dad to put the fire in?

To put the stuff in the fire.

Are we ready?

Here we go.

It is, on no way.

Yeah.

I can see, I can see, and I can tell you if

it is what I think it is, mine doesn't have it.

Whoa, whoa, we were.

So that is cool.

Explain what those are.

These are Lamborghini gloves.

They're not

like driving gloves, these are for working.

They are for when fixing your Lamborghini.

When you own a Lamborghini and you got to

change a tire, ugh, Jeeves isn't able to come

out and help you, you're gonna have to change

a tire yourself.

Lamborghini provide you with gloves to be

able to, fit the tires.

We should find those.

They are called service gloves.

I scoured the internet and I did find them.

Now, I believe they are either very late

Mercilago or right at the beginning of a vent at all.

Okay.

But I believe they are the correct,

they're a little bit, if they were mega nerd stuff here.

I did actual research on this 'cause I tried

to find Glardo.

Glardo ones have like a black seam,

but must super late like SV and SV,

the Mercilago and ventils were full white like that.

This is really cool.

I've looked at these and I've looked at it

'cause I wanted to buy, you normally get it

in the toolkit, I think.

Yeah, exactly.

The toolkit and then these will be in there

and I couldn't find any for the Glardo,

also they're very expensive,

but these, I don't wanna use them for working

out with a white glove, come on now.

White gloves for that is ridiculous.

We're gonna come to your house and you're

gonna be making pizzas with those on,

just oven gloves.

They are oven gloves.

But these are cool, I might use these on the Sim.

Oh, that's good.

That's a great Sim glove, but also very comfy.

And again, if we're gonna go for a smell

test, like the Ferrari, does it have rich vibes?

Yeah, it's sort of like just quite like an Italian thing.

Are they leather?

I believe so.

Yeah, I think they smell like leather.

Because they've got the old suede inside.

Yeah.

Do you know what, they don't smell used,

which is nice.

They've got a little bit of--

No, it's said they were unused.

They were unused.

But no one's ever actually used them.

No, I have to actually change a wheel.

Would you like your second gift or should we

go to Ben's first?

Let's have, 'cause I've got three for Ben,

but I'm not sure.

Three.

I'm not trying to upstage everyone.

Two of them, I'm very sure.

Let me do mine, and then we can end on the big three.

Why have you got--

Did anyone stay in budget?

No.

Yeah.

I feel almost, actually.

I was 50 people now.

You were closest to the budget.

I got told there was a budget.

I saw the budget.

Edwin, sorry, I'm just having a wrestling

match for his microphone in the corner.

And the foil on the floor.

It looks like a crack down now.

Do you need a hand or are you good?

Okay, cool.

Are you okay to pull the marshmallow in?

Yeah.

If it's the most, I would actually,

I would suck.

Would you cry again?

Yeah, funny.

I would, though.

Yeah, I'd cry my absolute eyes out.

Oh, God, I was laughing.

I don't want to see this.

Why?

You could open them now.

I thought seeing as your back door's got smashed in.

It's a back door.

I'd get you a new back door.

That's my back door.

Where did you get this back door from?

It has been fixed, but what do I do with this back door?

Hang on, I'll take a photo.

You can't see on camera.

The whole thing will overlay that.

So for audio listeners, this is an actual,

just a whole-

It's just a wooden door.

I want to get out, I don't-

No, I'll put it away.

I'll put it to the side of you.

I'm very grateful for my back door.

No worries.

Being repaired.

As an extra layer of protection,

perhaps for my back door.

David got a bolt lock on it,

which is lovely.

What do you do with such an item?

But what are you going to do with it?

What are you going to put it?

You never know.

Have you decided where you're going to put it at?

Yeah, my back door.

But if we hadn't you back door?

Well, I might replace that back door.

With that back door, I wasn't expecting that at all.

I knew it was, I spoke around the corner and

I was like, what?

Right, Benjamin, are you ready for your-

I don't even know if it's receiving gifts.

There's a very small game to play after this.

It's Christmas after all, so we're going to

play them or not.

No, we're not going to play them.

I've been dreading this.

I can't-

Because I find out Will had me.

I was like, great.

It's a clown costume with a clown car.

I'm going to have to wear it all day.

You did think I bought you a tailored clown.

Yeah.

Alas, I'm actually not that mean.

Now hold on.

Now this is-

I got a little stocking.

Well, you wrapped it properly as well.

Now I'm going to wait until you're back to

your mic before I say anything.

Do you know what this is?

Yes, I know.

No, I know what you is.

Do you know what it is?

Dad's at Christmas.

Do you know what it is?

Yeah.

Now, you did not wrap that.

No, not at all.

I asked my girlfriend to wrap it.

I knew it.

I knew it.

What do I open first?

Is there a specific order?

Pull them out.

Okay, I have one.

I have a presence out.

I have one last.

I have two.

You can do that one first.

I have, okay, this one first.

I have thin one of sorts.

Now, that's surely that's grandma's car that

slipped a little fibre in her sleeve.

Get yourself a daily.

Don't tell anyone about that.

Okay, that's nice to start with.

This is a doctor on call thing,

which I assume is my car.

Yeah, it's got a little suction cup on it.

Do you know what?

I might actually put it in my car,

just as a joke.

Now, quite good, because when the doctor

comes up behind you, they go,

fellow like me,