We Met The New Grand Tour Hosts (They’re Proper Car Nerds)

0:00 Introduction and Welcome

You were right with the old married couple thing.

I think that's what it was.

Thomas and I were just ready to look

for a third.

I think you also mentioned on another podcast

about having a notepad with loads of cars in.

You mentioned Naushilago, which really.

He's got a surprise for you today.

Hello, and welcome back to a very special

episode of the Car's Rule Everything Around

Me podcast with myself, Edwin.

Will to my left.

And three very special guests if you'd like

to introduce yourselves.

Yes, my name is Thomas.

I'm James.

Perfect.

Francis.

Fantastic.

And if you can't recognize those voices,

that is The Throttle House lads.

Francis Wardwell, but together they make up

the Grand Tour Trio, the new Grand Tour Trio.

We've been very excited about this.

But before we get into any of this,

we have to ask the question,

the Car's Rule or Ruin everything around you this week.

We do it at the beginning of every show.

Francis, we start with you in.

Oh, that was quite quick.

So it's simply because they're either great

that week or

something's gone wrong and everything is bad.

So this is the first thing that's happened to

this car though, right?

It's been completely and utterly reliable up

until the second moment.

How much have you spent on

incorrect diagnostic hours?

I wouldn't say incorrect

diagnostic hours because they're just

diagnostic full stop.

We're just slowly finding the solution.

He's show up to

every shoot and be like, it's pulling to the

left this week.

So I'm not going to go into details.

as a solid reason to read.

Rear main sales stuff.

This sounds like it's a few more problems

away from us buying it.

You know what this is, Ryan.

I'm sure we all do have an

unhealthy connection to cars so much so that

you're past the point of it being financially

sensible to keep them on the road.

But not when they're five years old.

Yeah, but it's like if you're the last

second, it's adorable and you love it.

After this fix, everything's going to be fine.

Over and over again.

All right, we're in for you,

James.

We've been passengers this week.

So I would say it's not been good because

we've had such a mixture of London traffic

experience with people slamming on brakes and

slamming on throttles.

A lot of people drive quite bi-narily.

Yeah, taxi drivers, especially.

Yeah, they treat the throttle like a switch.

And our journey's a lot smaller,

two, three hours each time.

So it's just like this.

So doom scrolling down the window.

And so just staring out the front window,

I'm not going to feel sick.

I'm not done.

I just can't deal with the climate control

inability to understand it specifically over here.

That for some reason, it's universal in every building.

It's about three trillion degrees in here right now.

Every place I stay, there's no air conditioning.

And I'm losing my mind.

And every seems like every cab or Uber,

whatever I get in, they don't know how to use

the climate control.

They just push auto and pick a temperature.

That's that easy.

That's exactly my thought.

I get that a lot.

And again, someone's kind of like,

you have air con.

Yeah.

You have climate control.

You have a machine that controls the climate.

It's just let it do it.

Just let it do anything like this.

I don't have a window down.

The windows down and the windows up.

The options are windows down,

windows up.

It gets hot.

Turn the AC on full blast.

It gets too cold.

Turn the air conditioning all the way off and

put the windows down again.

I'm like, what is going on?

I'm like, my body temperature is doing this.

You're just trying to relax.

I didn't realize this, but I ordered an Uber

comfort and learned, behold,

a VW Tour and pulls up.

And all the windows are down.

I'm like, okay.

And this is when the with the recent heat

wave and I got in.

I was like, would it be possible to put the

windows up and turn the AC on?

It's like, that's for

execs.

Every time I got in the car,

Air would stop blasting to catch up with the temperature.

And I don't know if you noticed that when you

go to LA, you get into a car and suddenly the

Aircon is blasting and it feels foreign.

But now I'm completely the other way,

which is like, why aren't we controlling the air?

My mum has a theory that Aircon just makes her ill.

She just doesn't believe in it.

She just doesn't believe in it.

I just don't believe in it.

She'll turn up with a full-blown cold and

she'll turn the aircon.

That's a different way of thinking.

So we have seen episode one of The Grand Tour.

We were very

excited when we were told we could see it.

We were like, we

can't show anyone this.

Ben asked for many hours and we

didn't let him.

He's not here.

You can't see it.

So that's

the end of that.

Now, the sort of ending sequence of that

first episode was unbelievable.

It felt so, so good.

But

outside of that moment, were there any other

moments in what you were filming where you

thought, like, shit?

We are on the Grand Tour.

We are filming the Grand Tour with any other

big moments like that.

From a different

episode?

From a different episode, yeah.

Africa.

Yeah, we

went to Angola and Angola, to our surprise,

has

unbelievable motorsport where they basically

closed

downtown to do stuff.

You can't evolve.

And we partook in one of these events and it

was just wild.

This carnival event?

Yeah, wild.

6:00 Meeting the Grand Tour Hosts and Their Reactions

I guess, for me, my favorite part of Top Game

of Grand Tour is always the specials,

right?

So in Africa, it was such a place that they

went to to sort of be there with the crew and

then some old cars, you just kind of go like,

"Okay, now it's real."

That was the moment for me.

There's a torch running across the road and

there aren't a lot of people just like

holding onto the fences, just looking at you.

So cool, so cool, seriously.

Because watching that first episode,

that final sequence there, I was like,

"Bam, that's like..."

Because it was huge and it felt exciting,

wasn't it?

Which means not going 200 miles an hour.

(Laughter) So five days later,

finally, 200 miles an hour back to the future

start, might have carried on going.

(Laughter) So kind of do it and apologize.

It's not dangerous, it's not a problem,

so we will drive.

So on that, was that, were each of those

cars something that you guys chose or was

there kind of a pull where you each got hurt?

So that was something that you'd seen and

gone, "I want to drive that."

Well, I think there was a general consensus

that me in a 2031 bike course power hypercar

would be funny.

(Laughter) How do we break down the training guy myth?

(Laughter) And

that ratio saw it's real.

It's like real time, it was like

flying past as though I was stopped.

You can always tell we find it too,

where when you're getting really into it,

you stop speaking and there was in that lost

race, there was multiple points for the

camera just cut to you just going,

Yeah, I was like, yeah, bottom XLRometer,

like feedback through the steering wheel,

judging the set.

There were moments where it was like actually

gravelly and broken times.

It was super gravelly and especially because

the planes land in the center and we weren't

taking off from driving on the center,

we're driving on the edges where all the

dusting gravel has gone to, right?

Coupled out with the fact that the engineers

in my car thought that just based on,

I don't know, calculations or something,

we're like, we have to inflate the tires to a

higher size for the speed for safety.

They know things that I don't understand.

And that resulted in not very much grip.

But I was like, okay, I'm tired,

not blowing at speed is better.

A little bit better.

I'll take that.

But yeah, I didn't have a ton of grip

honestly and that was properly scary.

I wasn't really seeing this right foot.

I was just managing it.

You were tram-blinding, weren't you?

I was seriously, yeah, that was a wild,

wild, yeah.

I think it was a good one to stop.

I think that was a very good effect.

It was so, so exciting.

I think in any of the episodes first or

otherwise that looks, the viewers would have

seemed was scripted but isn't.

I've heard you talk a little bit about the

train in the first episode.

That's one of the most obvious thing that I

can think of is that that was genuinely 100% real.

It's why there's only one angle because it's

only the Cayenne camera car could keep up

with that moment.

I think someone swung around a long lens from

where we were like really doing that other

bit and they shot us with 250 mill lenses.

kind of tracked it from a distance.

That's the only other angle,

I think.

You think a behemoth of a crew like what

we've been working with 75 people to be able

to be that reactive immediately.

You think it would be, oh, could we do that?

But they could have these sort of intercom

things and you can see them just going and

it's like a domino effect and then we're out

and then we're doing it within the space of

probably about 30 seconds.

Yeah, literally they just moved it.

It's 75 miles now.

Slow down and we'll do the take again.

No one chance of it.

And what you can't really see is the Rover on.

It had been raining.

So on each, it was doing this and to the

podcast people up and down.

On the troughs, on the bottom of them,

it was like sand and wet.

So we were punching it and every time we were

picking up this water and sand and it was like,

yeah.

And also the car in front would disappear for

a second and we were trying to catch up with

the train, right?

Many million pound thing disappears in front of you.

News go, I hope he didn't break.

That doesn't suddenly appear.

I think he smelled it coming,

the train.

We wouldn't have been able to catch it

otherwise because it just literally you

couldn't hear anything.

And he goes, hold on.

It's an interesting part with the water saucy.

It's a pebble somewhere that just starts to vibrate.

If you can tell what train it is just by the vibrate.

in the UK, yes.

The vibrations but by track hiss.

I mean,

for you, that must have been a crazy moment

to be in a 2,000 horsepower hypercar doing that.

That was a real excitement.

With each location, we go to our planned

route if we stick

10:54 Filming the Grand Tour's First Episode

to it.

I try and gauge if we're going to coincide

with some kind of train track.

So it was all ready on my radar.

So half an air was kind of tuned in to try

and see if another thing would pass.

But again, going to America,

I'm not in tune with the train tracking

methods as in the UK.

I can just see what's coming.

So it was just a matter of trying to hope

something would pass.

Doesn't that make it more exciting that there

is a fog of war when you go to North America

that there isn't this map or this schedule

that you can obsess over?

Because I've always wondered that when the

train stop is like, for me, and I think you

guys mentioned it with your Monterey thing,

is at some point it just becomes a car park

of 90 cars.

It's more fun to discover stuff in the wild.

So that's why I've always been confused when

you're like, oh, Class 56 will be here in 20 minutes.

And you go there and you go,

there it is.

The thing that I suppose to be in your life,

yeah.

Surely the American thing is like,

finally, I'm surprised by a train.

Yeah, well, you look 25 years ago and railway

enthusiasm was just sitting and waiting and

word of mouth.

People who were kind of maybe in the train

planning departments, they might give an

inkling as to what locomotive might be on a

certain train.

But yes, it's different because then you can

see this day is going to be absolutely mega.

All of this stuff is going to happen at

Stafford or Creole, whatever.

So when the schedule came out,

did you go like, screw you bird watchers?

A couple of days ago, I was with Francis and

we were leaving the office.

And he looks at his phone and he goes,

oh, shit.

And I was like, what?

He's like, Mr.

Good Train last night.

(Laughter) It's the equivalent of being like,

seeing on Instagram that a car's got like a

cool car's been in a

certain place.

You're like, I wasn't that one.

I missed it.

I missed it.

I missed it.

It was a true bandit.

I want to see it naturally.

It's better to see it because you get car

spotters where they all, it's like the train

spotting thing where they have communities

where they go, we know that this bunch of

people, this car, this person's going to

leave their house at this time is,

they do, it's quite militant.

Yeah, you know.

Now, James and Thomas, you've been working

together for a long time.

Obviously, Francis, you've kind of come into

what is basically an ultramaried couple anyway.

Like, how was that?

Because talking to this review now,

it feels like you've known each other for a

very, very long time.

But how was it initially sort of just being

kind of dropped into that?

Well, we just kick-started our conversations

just the same way as we're getting to know

you guys now properly, just talking about cars.

And, you know, this podcast is probably run

until the end of the day, we'd still have a good time.

I'd be happy for that.

Yeah, but, yeah, we just started talking

about cars and then, you know,

we're figuring each other out,

working out, you know, each of our centers of humour.

You know how dogs sniff each other's butts?

Yeah.

You were right with the old married couple thing.

I think that's what it was.

Thomas and I were just ready to look for a third.

Yeah.

Spice it out of it.

Yeah.

There's actually, I can't remember it.

It might be the intercooler podcast that you

said something quite wholesome that you guys

would like go out on walks off the dinner to

just like, together as a result.

like, that's quite cool.

I don't for digestion.

Also, we're trying to hit our 10,000 steps.

You were trying to hit your,

he loves a walk this guy.

He gets really, he gets really antsy if he

doesn't do a walk.

You know what?

It's good for you.

And it's good for us.

Yeah.

Just discussing things as well,

how it's all going.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just nice to not just immediately go to our rooms.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We might have something about Ben,

but it would be more like we'd be taking him

like for as a dog.

Yeah.

That would come out with me.

So it does seem like obviously that it's the

car thing that we all seem to have,

or you all seem to have, especially is what's

kind of like sort of brought you together and

what's made the Grand Tour so,

so good in this sort of new iteration.

Now, I've completely forgotten my question.

That's exactly.

I mean, that happens a little bit.

Let me throw you a compliment while you think of it.

I think you guys have the same thing,

which is just that immediate warmth,

that sort of chicken soup for the soul and car world.

It's so easy to listen to you and develop a

parasocial

relationship that you don't return in kind.

Central to it again, and you're kind of

building your sort of relationships out from that.

And how much of that sort of that emphasis on

that convinced you to just give this a go and

say how it would go.

I think there is a lot of, we were very

aligned with the producers and what they

wanted to do on that.

But we did drive harder for more cars.

That was a pun that I didn't intend to make there.

Put it on a poster.

Yeah, yeah.

So yeah, for us, I think the reason that we

pushed and we did a lot of car focus things

is because it's what we know.

It's our happy place.

That's where we drive our opinions and our

hopes and dreams that says where everything

is placed is the car world.

So once we start there, you can branch out

into the stuff that the rest of the audience

wants to watch, basically.

The mishaps and the humor is kind of a

byproduct of us just doing what we love in

driving the cars.

You know, the 110 just driving along,

just suddenly the car explodes.

Yeah, yeah.

Every car in the show for every episode is

one that we've picked more to obsess about or show.

That was going to be a question.

That's I think something quite important too.

We were saying that the previous three,

they almost typecast themselves into the cars

that they liked.

Right.

Is that something, do you want to kind of

deviate from that and just go with,

but that's the same thing to go with cars you

want to go with?

Yeah, we do have our own preferences in terms

of the car world.

Actually, super weirdly, this is,

no, we're on a car podcast.

We can talk about this.

We happen to randomly align into BMW Mercedes and Audi.

I was gonna ask.

I don't know why or how that happened,

but like he's very much Mercedes guy.

I'm very much a BMW guy and you've owned

several Audi's and you're a big guy.

I love how you change the language there.

Like he's a Mercedes guy, you're a BMW and

I've owned some Audi's.

(laughing) (mumbles) No, I forget that

passionate about Audi's.

I don't think I can, but I do love owning

them, they're just great.

Yeah, so that is random.

So in some ways we are very different in some

ways we're similar.

I've been trying so hard to get a Rover 75 in

(laughing) (mumbles) It's so difficult.

Some reason Mustang GTD ZR1 Rover 75,

it didn't work.

Yeah, we had to explain that.

Yeah, did you pitch an idea for it just to

drive it around?

To destroy it might be a good pitch or something.

I love Rover 75, so if ever there's a way to

get one in, then I'll try my other one.

A V8 one, be cool.

We've talked about buying the Mustang engine

one at some point.

We're doing something silly with it.

Would you do EG1 at the MG or the Rover one?

See, the Rover would be cool because then

sticking like a whiffle supercharger on it

and then just driving around with the

National Trust sticker on

the back.

You know, umbrellas on the parcel shelf,

the

whole thing.

What would it be the equivalent to?

What does it mean?

It's basically, I believe it's a charity.

Yeah, I think that preserves beautiful

sights, whether it be buildings,

forests.

areas of interest, and you can become a

National Trust member.

And when you do, you get a little sticker and

it's a trope that older people will put the

stickers on their Jaguar-esque type,

or Road of 75, that they inevitably...

They get what it is.

You know what?

It's old people.

It's going to do that.

It's sort of an antidote to having an

Instagram tag.

There's an RS6 with National Trust on it,

then there's the RS6 with an Instagram tag.

And you know more about it, it tells you

something about it.

It tells you exactly what it is.

It's speaking of things on cars and being a foreigner.

Obviously, I spent the first 20 years of my

life in England, so...

But there's been stuff I've missed since then.

Why?

Because we've started to associate certain

drivers with this.

Why are people bolding their registration plates?

And then there's another stage,

there's Stage 2 plate, which is the sort of wrongness...

Diamond on the edge of this...

And then there's the bold outline on the diamond.

Is that all this other day on?

What was it?

30 or I or something.

It was the next three, like very bottom of

the range one.

And it had the plate, so it had all the things.

Bold, diamond, bold, with M on the...

It seems like all the people that drive the

cars that have those plates on,

they need to be killed by John Wick.

That's how it feels.

It's like they're on the far right axis.

We've got a bold last year.

I think it was even deeper than that.

Please get more than that, please.

Some that have, you can tint the number

plate, which is technically illegal.

Just because I don't know why you'd want to

do that, but you'd tint the yellow part or

the white part of the plate.

I also had colours behind it,

with colour behind.

There's 4D and 3D, yeah, 3D gel effect.

They're not really the difference between 3D

and 4D, but...

Yeah, 4D is like the square.

It has sound.

It just reads the non-plate,

braille number plate.

It is tiny.

I know what it is.

I just like another plate to be a number plate.

It is what it is.

It's just another plate.

But then some of those...

What about personalised plates?

I am a fan of a personalised plate.

It has to be fun.

It has to be an inside joke for me.

21:00 First Cars and Car Attachments

It was the last time we've ever explored the

ingenuity in the UK of working out a word.

We had an RM140i that was previously owned by

someone who stayed at his Majesty's

pleasure.

So we put prison on it.

P.R.

15, NNNM.

To a normal person, that's just a normal love plate.

Because we

know that's prison.

Is that car as good as I think it would

be?

It was great.

Perfect car for the US.

It's not too small, it's just right.

Perfect.

All we get is the M240.

It is a 240.

Yeah, but the coupe.

Yeah.

That car was, it was larry.

It would get down.

That was cool.

I preferred it to the golf we had.

There was a lot of footage that couldn't be

used on that car.

Like a lot of footage that was like,

you can't leave that.

Go and throw it over to the top of that.

You can see someone in the background.

It's your 10 minute cut.

So just to clear up the registration plate,

true or false, someone with a board plate is

a dick head.

Yes.

We're feeling this.

We wanted confirmation.

Every now and then you'll see it.

It'll be just an old guy with a 4D plate.

But then it's great because you have to

figure out how did he buy that car with that plate?

Did he get upsold somehow?

And to the 146 cream listeners who have a bold plate.

Don't worry.

We got rid of

that.

That was a cull.

I feel like there's a yin and a yang because

for those who own a car, that's pre-2001 and

have returned it to a plate with the proper font.

I love that.

Then that deserves a thumbs up.

Yeah, retro plates are so cool.

It's got the original dealer.

That's always cool.

Okay, good to know.

This is good.

This is good information.

Now I was doing some research into first cars.

We like talking about first cars.

We did a series on first cars just because it

always brings up memories and stories.

And I know you had a Corsa 1.2 SXI,

I think it wasn't.

You had Pontiac Bonneville.

And then I couldn't find anything on New Francis.

Right.

What was your first car?

My first car was my mum's Nissan Micra 1.2S.

Okay, 11.

Okay, 12.

Okay, 12.

Really?

Look at it.

Again, going back to feeling too emotionally

attached to cars, it's currently sitting on

my parents' driveway and they're trying to

get rid of it.

And I've been saying, please,

no, just wait until I have enough storage.

But that was not my first car I bought.

But the first car I did buy was Mercedes E320 CDI,

W211.

How is that?

With a two-tone, I can't remember what the

colour of the leather was called,

but it's like a two-tone, like,

cream and caramel with like the walnut in between.

Oh, crazy.

Four colours of the car.

Black.

Okay, it feels like a full beige.

Yeah, just a word that's original.

But it was a proper granddad wagon.

And is that sold?

I had a bump with that one.

It's still on the road, but not

with me.

This is the side of the road.

That's always nice

to see.

When you look at an old car that you had and

it's

still going right like, "Okay,

I did something right in the car's life that it's on."

It's sawn currently, I think.

We used to both own a V70, like a 2.3 T5

manual, but we got for 300 quid,

I sold to Will, and we both...

I can't do that to the front.

I would periodically check and see if it was

still on the road, and then one day the MOT

expired, and about the next day,

Will went in and said, "I'll follow those off the road."

So we've both been checking it in the

background, looking to see if it's still going.

It's not nice to know that it's dead.

Would you do a build on the micro?

Would you like to do something with it,

or would you like to just restore it and keep

it original?

If I were to do something, it would be like a

full back to factory settings.

Just original.

It would be good to get a jazz style on it.

Have it looked like that, but it's got some

sort of funky Nissan engine in it.

Yeah, slightly traumatized from the

expenditure on the jazz build.

So what are we after just hearing the number?

Yeah, maybe one for the future.

Now, talking of the jazz, I want to get some

car nerd stuff.

We always want to know what sort of cars

people have owned or do.

You've got the jazz, the R129 SL and also the E63.

Is there anything else lingering around currently?

2.5, 16 miles.

It's a 2.5, which are much more rare than the 2.3.

And it was December 1988.

So one of the last cars, one of the last 2.5s

with a Cosworth head, because after that went

to Mercedes built heads.

That's cool.

I had no idea of that.

So Mercedes is your main sort of thing.

We'll get on to your cars at the moment,

the other cars at the moment.

But a quick question is what would your

ultimate build be?

Because you're all, you kind of deviate,

I guess, a little bit from the previous three

in that you like modified cars,

you like building cars.

What would be your ultimate money no object,

time no object?

Rover 75 Estates, BTCC, Homage.

This is a good question.

This is a real answer to that really quickly.

We recently drove the TWR Supercat.

Oh yeah.

And that just driving a supercharged V12 did

things to me.

I would stick that engine in something.

I don't know what it would be.

It

sounds unbelievable.

It sounds beyond unbelievable.

It's

one of those cars that I can only put in the

same category

as a singer and a Title 911K where you get to

what you

think is the red line, but it must be judging

by the sound

and the speed and you look down and you have

fourth 1000 RPM left, right?

That's how it felt.

You're just like, no effing way.

Am I going all the way to the red line?

When you're afraid of the red line in a car,

you know that it's a good car.

So that thing really, I agree,

that was nuts.

It sounds illegal, but it sounds like how

they got that through.

I had someone new idea.

Spits flames too.

You come out smelling like raw fuel,

right?

It's unbelievable.

James, your current car collection,

your setup?

I have a Toyota Century V12,

which you saw at the beginning of the Grand

Tour, momentarily.

I have my daily family car as a golf bar,

Mark 8, not the 0.5.

I have an ND2 MX5, the last of the ND2s,

because I didn't know the ND3 was coming with

its lovely updates.

But I'm very grateful that MX5 to get better and better.

I have recently bought, well,

actually, I've been trying to buy the same

ISETTA, BMW ISETTA for over a year.

Finally got it from Florida Man.

Misrepresented, cost of fortune,

and has been a lot of headache and is still stationary.

I don't know.

There's only three parts.

I agree.

It doesn't make any sense.

Did you not do in the multiplier?

If you think of it as "bop it" where there's the four.

But if you change one, there's so many

different ways it can be wrong.

And all four have been wrong.

I've spent many days on a driveway already helping him.

We've branched on this car way too much.

There's nothing to do with it.

And somehow I've removed the skin from my knuckles.

It's hard to picture people working on an ice

mattress on a driveway.

Yeah.

One of you left us out.

When we jacked it up, we put the jack stands

on the only spots you can put

the jack stands.

This is the engines in the back.

It doesn't

weigh anything in the front.

So we had to go downstairs to his workout

room and get some weights to put them in the

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front so that it didn't just teeter,

totter, or the end.

I'll send you a visual so you can put it up

for the podcast.

Yeah.

That's really funny.

Yeah.

That's the sort of thing that you'd work on

your dining room table upside down on,

like a remote control.

Exactly.

It's actually funny to think is when he

bought one, his plan was to just bring it inside.

Just bring it inside.

I said, like, Janet, I know it's small,

but it's not actually that small.

It's still a car.

He's like, no, no, it'll fit 100%.

And then he still takes up quite a big space here.

It's still a car.

It's still a car.

Yeah.

My Honda beats the same.

I'm like, that will fit anywhere.

And then we try to fit it somewhere.

It's still 70% of a car.

Yeah.

That's small.

And I've had an auction problem lately.

Lately.

Lately.

You just have an auction problem.

Well, for a long time, I was trying to be the

second highest bidder, so I could just get the rush.

And then I won a few.

So we own a fire truck.

Yeah, we don't own anything.

Thomas made me do it.

I just made me do it.

It was not my problem.

The most ridiculous thing I've won is

something that we've not revealed to the audience yet.

Yeah.

Well, we sort of teased it.

Yeah.

But I now own a very, expensive Alfa,

and I'll leave it at that.

That makes sense.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

I wasn't.

Yeah.

You'll see why.

Hey, my cars.

I have a, I have a land cruiser,

a 70 series Prada, which I imported from Japan.

It's a 1994.

You got a private play.

Oh, Matt.

I do.

It's called, it's his LARP 4x4.

That's good.

Because I live action role playing.

You've camped.

You have done a few now.

And there was a gravel road into the campsite.

I put it in low range.

I don't think we've ever needed low range.

Everything we've ever done, we'd better get

in low range.

I've got that, which is freaked out to be

kind of like a camper thing.

I've got a Alfa Romeo Giulio Quadrifoglio

2020, which is my kind of my daily,

I guess.

I have an Aston Martin V8 Vantage,

which is the cheapest one that I could possibly find.

That's newer edition, right?

The V8 Vantage?

No, it's like, it's not quite recent.

You bought that.

Oh, sorry, it is a new edition to my collection.

Yes, yes it is, yeah.

You got the 4.2, not the 4.7,

okay?

The 4.3.

It's for the previous, yeah.

It's better.

Yeah, it's for free, actually.

Yeah, either way,

either way.

It is a 4.3, but it's inferior to the 4.7.

It's better for the reasons I have to figure out.

I'm trying to convince Ben to buy one of

those at some point.

Yeah, very good.

Okay, so listen, I want to tell you about

that car, because the Alfa, the Quadrifoglio,

is so light in its controls.

Everything about it is very,

controls are light, the steering is light,

even the shifter paddles are light.

And then I get from that end of the vantage,

and it feels like a manly car,

because everything is so heavy.

Yeah, and you just say, "Oh,

this is too much."

No, I know, I'm like, it literally is a

couple blocks of driving to adapt to driving

that car every time, which is why I really like it.

You genuinely feel like you're physically

operating a car when you drive it,

which is really cool.

And then I have two classic Alfa Romeo's,

a 1972 Spider, and a 1970 GT13 under Junior.

So where's the Alfa obsession come from?

That's a good question.

I think it's, I've always liked Italian cars

and I didn't necessarily have a preference

for Alfa, but then years and years ago,

the Alfaholix GT-RT90 came out,

right?

And just seeing that car and seeing like

Chris Harris skidded around before I ever had

a chance to drive it, I just kind of like

kept learning about that car and researching

it and just resulted in an obsession and then

the spider was like the closest thing that I

could get to it, right?

Same engine, right?

You know, lots of the under bodies really similar.

But we filmed the GT-V as well,

didn't we?

Yeah, a couple years later, we filmed the

GT-V and then that was the moment for sure.

I was like, this is where I go,

everything is focused here.

And then I bought the junior a couple years

later and then promptly had to drop it off

for an entire restoration.

Yeah.

That lasted three years.

Yeah.

I can't have a feeling, might be very similar.

A lot.

Are you finding out?

It's not from South Africa and it's not one

of the goods I have from Kals.

I looked under it one of the,

I won't say too much because it's on video,

but one of the chassis legs that's metal is fiberglass.

Oh, that's worse than mine.

Yeah, it's like, wait.

Yeah, it's light.

It's not doing anything, we're gonna cut the

front end off and weld on a step nose for an end.

There's a step nose conversion kit that you can get.

From alcoholic stuff.

From alcoholic stuff.

It's on the web and tempted.

Yeah.

So I'll have a dangerous website like that.

Yeah, it really is not great.

Everyone keeps telling me about it.

He's like, I'm on my website,

they do this.

It's this amount of money.

We'll just cut the nose off this car.

I'm like, you'll cut the what?

Off the car.

They keep sending me quotes.

They're like, by the way, I'm just out of the

coat on the side if you just wanted to do that.

I look at it and go, yeah, we'll do that.

Let's do that.

We'll do like a magnesium spoon.

Yeah.

We don't have to do it.

Every time I'm like, I don't eat that.

And then 20 minutes later on,

my other website going, it's only one of 10.

So this is an end.

Can you talk yourself into the pedals yet?

Yeah, the pedals.

The pedals are so good.

They're in my own pedals as well.

You can see them because you're steering

wheel is not a modern steering wheel.

There's no airbag.

So you can see the pedals.

And therefore when you're driving,

it's a thing to look at.

And I think of that.

It's just trust me.

Just spend this amount of money.

I want my whole life without saying billeted.

Like 12 times.

How many times you've got the one drop

knuckle after that?

It's a conversation.

No, it's a very dangerous world.

That's one of the reasons that I really stuck

with Alfas is because the modification is so easy.

And there's so many parts of it.

Yeah.

And almost build a whole car out of just parts.

But you like it for the same reason I like it as well.

It's sort of the anti 9/11.

Yes.

It's not a 9/11.

It's very specifically not a 9/11.

It's also not a Ferrari.

It's much cheaper than a Ferrari.

And it's like the every man Ferrari.

That's why I see Alfas, right?

So, yeah.

Is there much alpha action going on

throughout the Grand Tour series?

I feel like Alfas are not.

Clarkson was the one who said that you're not

a petrol head and tell you've had one,

but it's still for a little bit.

It's sort of misrepresented across social media.

If someone says alpha, it'll either be one of

the more boring sort of diesel things,

or it's just gonna be unreliable,

but is there much alpha going on this series?

There's not much, but my alpha does appear.

I mean, the intro won't say too much,

but your cars feature in the intro.

I think that's a really cool piece.

Was that something you guys pushed for?

Was that something kind of productive?

That was a very collaborative decision,

I think, right?

Yeah.

But it was the whole thing with it,

'cause you know, all cars were in Canada,

so there was a lot of rich.

When I watched the video, I was like,

"How old about England?"

(laughing) He just drove there.

Thomas is half a kept breaking down.

Okay, so at one point,

the steering box shattered.

Just fully, well, I wasn't even driving it at

the time, which was dangerous.

They're like, "Your car's not in very good shape."

I'm like, "What are you talking about?

"It's an amazing shape."

(laughing) The steering box shattered,

and the only one available nearby was the

Alcoholics Billet Steering Box,

the fully built one.

That is recently, I looked at that the other night.

Sorry to hear that.

It's so good, it's so good, it's really,

really, really good.

Yeah, so Thomas got to the point where he

kept hoping things would break.

(laughing) So he used to do stuff while it was,

yeah.

Yeah, it was on Amazon's budget to fix it to

get it ready for the suit.

It's a graphic game.

So he's probably, I probably need the carbon fiber doors.

Yeah, yeah.

(laughing) We'll boot this one up.

We'll get the carbon one.

It's gonna be a long shoot, the door's gonna be heavy.

Actually, the door hinges on both doors

failed, and then the window regulator on one

side failed, and the window dropped down,

so those are all new.

Yeah, and the drive shaft.

You're not exciting me for my ownership,

I'll be like, I'm so excited.

(laughing) I'm from ROC to the exact same experience.

I'm like, uh-oh, what have I done?

But once you get it right, it will be years from now.

(laughing) Let's see if happiness will speak.

It's very endy.

(laughing) It's all worth it.

You know, there's an image of the person digging.

They turn around just before they get to the

diamond, so you have to keep digging.

(laughing) And take off a gambling profession.

(laughing) So that's kind of like your,

obviously your current cars,

but obviously since doing the Grand Tour and

sort of social media stuff, is there any cars

that have been sat in your saved searches or

your watch list that are just there?

But you want to buy at some point,

but just not pulling the trigger on the end.

And so many.

As of yesterday, at BMW One M.

Oh, fantastic.

As of yesterday, literally so I'm scrolling.

I don't know about what I want to say.

You consider a one series with the V8,

so then S65 swapped in.

No.

So you want the one M?

Is that a common swap?

It's really, really common.

So it looks like a one M, but with the S65

DCT or manual, there's a desperate one.

Desperate, 'cause it just feels like the

perfect size for engine.

That would be crazy.

There's a company in the UK,

I forget the name, they're basically taking,

they're doing that build, they'll put the S65

in, but they've painted them in like really

cool, in the BMW colors and they look

unbelievable, that's me.

But one M's a cool, which color would you go for?

Is there one that you like the most?

I quite like that pearlescent,

Matallicky White.

Oh yeah, yeah.

I'm not really a white car fan at all,

I think it really suits it.

That era is good for white.

I'm a launch color guy.

Whatever the car was launched in,

that's the one that I got my M2 in.

So you like Phoenix GO, you want any 46,

I'm sure?

Yes, you do.

I wrapped it blue.

Can we wrap a ship of your mouth?

(laughs)

That's why I first dreamed cars.

Hello, yeah.

Probably 2004, I go to a Portuguese cafe with

my mum on Halston High Street,

and there was a car dealership that was opposite.

And one day there was a Phoenix yellow BMW M3

cab sitting there, and I was just like,

what is this?

And it was a Kiwi interior as well.

A Kiwi interior, wow, the combo.

It's the worst possible combo.

Yeah, but this snot on this.

(laughs)

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It is a bit of a dream.

And cab?

Yes.

You'd like it, wow, yeah.

I bought, you know, it's a bit anti-kind of car drive.

But that proves how much you want it.

Yeah, the fact that you'd be like,

the cab is the dream, that's the one I saw.

I bought a die-cast model of one for my model

railway, and it's existed in these kind of

pictures of my model railway,

and I'm now hoping to reunite this model with

hopefully in the future a Phoenix yellow cab.

Oh, that's cool.

I'd imagine there's probably not that many,

but it was probably the speck no one wants it.

It was quite easy.

Will you see that all the time now?

I've got the one of 12 brown on brown things.

This is so rare.

Yeah.

That rare doesn't mean good.

Yeah.

This is not the best one.

My ox for Green M3 was rare,

because everyone went, "That is an old man color."

The 2000 people want the Phoenix yellow Laguna Seeker.

They went, "I don't want dark green on my

brand new M3, this is not mine."

Oh my goodness, Seeker Blue is one of the best blue.

With red interior.

So the Phoenix yellow one that I had,

the reason I wrapped it, the main reason,

is not that I specifically wanted a yellow

car, it's because the car was kind of crap

and it was a bit rusty.

And you know how the bottom of the door is

rust on the right, the water gets trapped in

there, right?

So I was, my plan was to just take like a

flap disc and just kind of remove as much as

I could from the inside, but then as I kept

going, the rust just realized it wrapped up

around the front of the door.

So like I just got carried away,

there was like a little bit of music on,

I had the face shield, and I just kind of

stepped back and looked and realized that I

had now just removed the paint from most of my door.

So I called the shop, I was like,

"How much is it to paint this door?"

And I called the wrap shop, I said,

"How much is it to wrap the whole car?"

And I was like, "The delta's not big enough

to just wrap the car."

So I literally just changed the car,

even in front of me forever,

'cause you'd open the hood.

It was just-

Well, there's a green paint in the car too.

It's gross yellow up against the blue.

It was terrible, yeah.

Like gangrene.

Yeah.

(laughs)

Like you were just talking about saying that

46 new younger.

You also mentioned on another podcast about

having a pad with loads of cars in.

You mentioned the Nusci Lago,

which really-

I was so glad you brought that up.

He's got a surprise for you today.

Oh yes!

We literally said, we said on the trade-in,

we'd love to do a video, we'd just

sit with you for hours.

What was this one?

What was this

one?

This is it.

So this is one of seven.

The whole crisis.

For those who are listening,

it's a kind of a blue, kind of plastic covered notebook.

And on the first page, it says,

my car book, and at the bottom,

Super.

With the S on it as well.

Yeah, yeah.

The school.

So first page.

So what do you think?

So this is probably 2009, this one.

Okay.

What do you think's gonna be on the first page?

2009.

I'm gonna say like an E92 M3,

I'm gonna say it's a voxel, the meager.

Oh, which is a nine?

Oh, fantastic.

He'll just have written down every single car he saw.

Have you ever the two?

I want selective.

Jag XKR.

Oh, is there an R8?

Okay, let's see.

Yeah, so we have Mercedes CL63.

Oh, that's a great first spot.

Oh, which is probably quite important.

Fair

enough on the go, on having a go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If it just flew past, it was like,

I think that was what that was.

CLS320, S500, MX5, XJ8.

All right.

CLS320.

Gonna write that down.

So Alpine B3, so presumably an Alpine L.

But have you noticed that there's no information?

No, it's car, car, car, car.

It's car, car.

It's car, car, car.

Like sort of AI, just reading it.

Yeah, that's true.

But have a peak.

Also, there is, in pretty middle,

decent condition,

Well, I stopped writing in that notebook

because I dropped it in a puddle.

You'll see, the page is car and car and car

and then there's just a puddly page.

So how old were you with this one?

Wow, C-36-A-M-G.

A real one today.

And I know, so that was, I know exactly where

that one was.

There's, near the vine tree where Jensen

Button used to go in Froome.

A couple of giga down, I think it's Rodan

Road, and then there's, aside straight where

my friend, Target, used to live,

and then it was parked up on the driveway one day.

It's those, just even looking at the

combination so I can sometimes remember the day.

But then, I guess then that means you don't

need any of the other information.

But the whole thing is a legend,

right?

You can imagine, correct?

It starts with one card, yeah.

It's where I got a shiny mew.

Yeah, it's written shiny mew.

Yeah, it's just so.

This is a primary source for historians.

Yeah.

Because there's so much,

You can't fact check it, but after a while it

just copies.

Yeah.

It's like the first two pages copying over.

It's all so jased up.

But I can confirm, it's not,

it doesn't

feel like that.

We've got S4 apt in there, TDC.

Wow,

right.

If 500 bar for catering, R500 super light

with

super specific on it.

Yeah, yeah.

An over-vinch super

light.

It literally says over-finch,

written out.

The car drove away.

It's too quick.

It was giving me my

memory.

Oh, that's cool.

That's amazing.

I like that.

That's, that feels like a legendary thing.

Do you know what, you should publish the vault.

Just publish the vault.

Nothing else, just a forward one page.

Yeah.

These are my books.

And then just put them out there.

These are cars I saw.

I like the idea of turning into a calendar.

So it's just January, but then it just misses.

Yeah, yeah.

(laughing)

It's when you can fill out yourself,

just underneath it.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like, well I saw these cars today.

Because some of those cars, it goes like,

oh, it's for M3 E63, what day that was.

And you just saw those all in one day,

it's like, where were you?

But doing that wasn't a matter of,

kind of, documentation for the future.

It was just a matter of, like,

in the moment, satisfaction.

Yeah, it took off.

Just to see it, I saw it.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know, my parents were encouraging me

to date it, but I didn't ever felt compelled to.

When you were younger, was there,

do you remember spotting a car that was like,

that really sticks out like the LP640 was

when I wrote it down?

I mean, I used to do car spotting when I was

a kid, so like, early YouTube,

0607, I was just filming it on my phone.

It was like, some of the quality is crap.

I used to get abused by people on YouTube,

because they'd be like, potato quality,

three seconds, what's the point?

Every car I'd see that was interesting,

I would film, and just upload it to YouTube.

And that was like my diary of what I've seen.

And now I can look back at it and go,

wow, that's the, I remember the first time I

saw one of those.

And that kind of feels, it's a much more

wholesome version of that.

I was doing it for social media viewers.

(laughing) It's like I'm 11,

but I will get some views on this.

Yeah, you've got a day show.

(laughing)

But on that question, another off the back of

that I wanted to ask, is there a car you saw

as a kid where you remember the first time

you saw that car?

For me, it's the first time I ever saw a

yellow marshal, I'll go, I know exactly where

it was, partly 'cause I filmed it.

But I remember that, just in it,

it will stay with me forever.

Is anything like that?

SL65 Black Series.

Oh, yes.

Just seen Jeremy do the review on it.

Then sitting on a pile of rocks.

And then probably three weeks later,

near the Natural History Museum,

just this SL65 comes around the corner.

That's one of my dream cars,

even though I've heard it handles not particularly well.

Yeah.

I'd love to own one one day.

That's cool.

Sorry, an Enzo on Stan Moorhill,

and I just remember thinking,

opposite the Huco lounge, whatever it was called.

And I was just like, wow.

And then also a career at GT outside Lord's

Cricket Ground.

before it was sort of, you know,

it was just that weird big Porsche before it

was this mad thing that's now worth millions.

I was like, oh, that's cool.

So it's the ones you see naturally.

Yeah.

I grew up in an area in Ontario where there

weren't that many fans here.

It's mostly Corvettes and challengers and

whatever, you know what I mean?

It's very like America in that way.

But I remember the first time I saw a C2

Corvette specifically, because it looked

different to, you know, the C5s and C6s that

were just kind of rolling around,

right?

I remember looking at it and going like,

what is that?

It doesn't look like a '50s car,

which they do be 50s car shows all the time.

And it just looked so cool.

And I still want one of those to today.

Is that because you know that the astronaut

strove them, and they're all a strong head one?

That definitely enforced it now.

And Batman.

And Batman.

Would you have one of the C5s or C6s that

they put the C2 bodies on?

So you could just draw, it's a normal car

that you can drive every day.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah, that would be cool.

No, I think if I would just,

I would want the classic.

You would probably want the big engine and one.

I want it in black, I don't want the wheels

with all the hammer off.

Give me that.

Are there any of those childhood cars that

you'd still love to own or buy?

Because most of those childhood kind of wild

dream cars are quite mad to own or ridiculous.

But is there anything that you'd love to go to?

I have to have that, I have to own that one day.

I think some of the, well, this era of cars

kind of formed my interest of car era.

But to be able to look on auto trader,

or car and classic for some of the shows that

we were doing, some of the criteria that we

needed these cars for, it was actually

revisiting cars that were new with Jeremy

Richton, James Reviewer.

And it's kind of kind of leapt into the sort

of second hand kind of adventure realm now.

But yeah.

I mean, there's also '65, it's not about that.

Anything AMG of that era?

for me.

Like that was, I was always,

I love Lamborghinis.

And I drove a contour, finally.

And I was like, I don't really want this one.

I had that with the Cobra Shelby Cobra.

The Shelby Shelby Cobra should,

by all means, be my dream car.

And after that day, I was like,

never again.

He still has a headache in that day.

I did Photoshop.

I had a mercy, a black Mercilago as my wallpaper.

And I Photoshopped.

Actually, I got Kyle to Photoshop.

My previous business partner,

I didn't know how to do it.

He Photoshopped my face in the screen.

Obviously, he just didn't match the tint.

So it's

just this bright face of me.

But I actually have no desire

to own a Mercilago.

And you guys have done that for me.

And he found out that his wife had gone into

labour while we were filming it basically.

And had twins that night.

So I'll never forget Mercilago.

He calls twins day.

It didn't happen for me.

That you know.

Someone had twins that day.

Francis, there's a little bit left field now.

But I've seen that you doubled in some music

a little while ago.

And you've made some of your music now.

I won't say what the name is.

We won't go looking into it.

But you know Richard Porter.

I'm assuming you might know the name of Richard Porter.

He made us some music.

And I don't know if you've heard it.

We have.

You have heard it.

I was going to play it for you.

But if you know it, then you already thought.

Because James May famously somehow managed to

hear it as well.

He just said, I like it.

It feels like the resurgence of craft work.

It is very crafty, isn't it?

Yeah.

Yeah, no.

Richard Porter is great.

We saw Richard in Monterey and he told us he

may make one more song.

He's made us two songs and we said,

we can't have any influence on it.

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bit about.

He picks what it is.

He's going to make one more.

Maybe.

And that's it.

No more.

But would you ever consider going back to

doing some music or?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I have a song that will be made.

I've recorded with sort of a recorder,

sounds of a class four, five,

five.

So everything from breaks, releasing,

door shutting, windows closing,

like the all of that, including the one

that's now based at Strawberry Hill.

I've been up close and able to capture

isolated sounds of like the compressor

wearing and things like that.

And.

Sounds like it's going to be a banger.

It's a club out there.

Are there any vocals?

Those elements, those kind of raw sort of

sound recordings will be made into a track in due course.

Can I put a guitar solo in it?

Yeah.

You can't do.

I'm pretty good.

Like a sultans of swing style.

It's just two minutes interlude.

Can we plug the song you have made?

Yeah, one heart.

I had no idea this existed and I listened to it.

And I was like, this has, this has the

essence of trackers at night at Laurie's.

I thought this feels nice.

That was pre all of my videos by about a year.

Yeah.

And it was just my brother and I together.

I was going to see freight trains at Watley Quarry.

Great album name.

Yeah.

My brothers are very talented musicians.

So we, I kind of wrote the lyrics here.

Yeah.

That was

part of what made that video sound like

impactful and quite emotional.

Sometimes I did my old Top Gear episodes.

I was and couldn't afford the license.

We did try to suggest as many songs as we

could for this soundtrack.

This is our moment.

We've come from a world of YouTube where we

can't use premium

music.

Use these!

And everyone was like, "Mm-hmm,

that's

literally my job."

I was pushing for America F.

Yeah.

So when Thomas arrives in the corner.

It's just, yeah, on repeat.

It can't do that.

But just think about it.

As a slight tangent, like early 2000s top gear music.

Some

of the selections there are incredible.

I've still listened to Apex Twin because of that.

And the V12 vintage, what is it?

Ruin.

Yeah.

That's all I mean, that's for such a short

segment.

Probably the one of the most impactful top

gear segments ever.

It's so rare groove.

They're playing Crystal Castle before they're cool.

Sabers of Paradise.

It's a song that played in the 1M film where

the car is on

a Tron grid.

It's a really cool song.

I can't believe what it is.

It's interesting you mentioned the Aston one

though, and how impactful that was.

Because that was part of what reminded us cars first.

We can make it work.

We always think of it in this metaphor of the

sofa, the person on the sofa,

the primary person who loves cars.

But how do you make it work for the whole room?

But the answer is you've got to go cars first.

Aston one is one of the ones we keep thinking about.

Let the cars do.

Yeah, because it was what?

Two and a half minutes long,

the clips on YouTube.

It's not a very long, and it's not even a

review of a car.

No, everyone talks about it.

He just talks about cars as a thing,

and then goes, "Good night."

You can imagine the rigging as well,

because there was that amazing car.

So good.

Who did the rigging on that one?

Did we speak with them?

Oh, wait.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't really need details,

though.

Ben joined us behind all of this stuff.

That, to me, that segment was top kit.

That was the beauty of it, where it didn't

have to be about a car, but the car was in

it, and my mum would watch it and go,

"That was quite nice."

That was so sad, though.

As a kid, I was like, "Well,

what's the point?"

It's all done.

It's the end of the Beatles already.

Yeah, it's like the kid finding out that

aliens exist, and I'm like, "Well,

Ben, there's no point, is there?"

He's the good news, they're still around.

They're still around.

Yeah, it'll be 12.

Yeah, Clarkson has that ability to do that.

Yeah, it's like when you get a car that he

prays, they're

like, "Okay, all right."

Yeah, there's a good scene of

approval.

Yeah.

James, you posted recently about your dad

printing out lots of all of the,

like, AFOCs of paper over all the sort of

articles and things like that,

and then I also read about a story where you

had your dad come over to Canada to go and

pick up an F-type art, which must have been a

really cool experience, but like,

how much of the sort of car stuff comes from

your dad or if at all, or how much of it do

you share with him?

Absolutely.

Yeah, I was the daughter my dad never wanted.

I didn't like football.

He really tried to get me into tennis,

which held for a minute, and then that was dropped.

And

then when I started loving cars,

he was like, my son.

He's

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always been interested in a specific class of

car, which is the daily ball fast cab.

So he's had like a lot of the M sport cars,

so like M3, three, five eyes and stuff.

S Audi S5s and C43s, like that middle performance rung.

He had an Alpina.

He had an Alpina.

He had an E46 Alpina.

But he surprised.

None of the family were into cars at that point.

And so he had a normal 330.

And then no one knew he just switched it for an Alpina.

Yeah, that's amazing.

But

yeah, so a lot of it is my dad.

And a lot of the experience has been with my dad.

When I bought my Audi CTS, he came with me to

Tepbury to go get it.

And I thought when I bought the F type,

it was such a big deal.

Yeah.

I was like, I've got to fly you out there.

We've got to go get this F type together.

And I remember being really annoyed because

he had a party that day.

So I had to find out the next day.

And the flight was three times as much.

Anyway, so he came in.

We drove to Montreal with my Subaru BRZ.

Traded that in and drove home the five hours

in the Jag.

And it was very exciting.

But yes, now it's got to the point where he

just prints out.

I saw it.

And it sort of begun at the top.

And he kept going down.

I was like, oh my God.

Did you still hear him in the corner?

Sort of just sheepishly being like,

I've done this.

I was like, right.

He's like, you're buying a car.

It's all of the paperwork on the floor.

Yeah.

So I was like, oh, that's very cute.

He's got it in front of back.

I mean, it would have saved a lot of pay for it.

Yeah.

He also printed it horizontally.

He should have done it vertical.

And then he would have got socially minded.

He wasn't got reels in mind for that one.

But yeah, needless to say, he's very excited.

He doesn't, he doesn't share the audience,

some of the audience's perspective of how

dare you try and take over to him.

I just get to see more of this.

So hopefully as long as people think like my

dad will be okay.

Yeah.

I think it's something we said it before.

And so it's a good way to wrap up is that

having an open mind going into this,

we said it before as well that the other

three are not coming back.

They've said they don't want to come out.

They're done.

So as a new chapter to start,

it might as well start somewhere.

And I think it's a, it's very,

very good.

If you're listening and you haven't watched

it yet, it will be out tonight.

Or it would be, I can't remember.

It will be out.

It will be out in the next day.

Give it a watch.

It's worth.

It's very much worth it.

Try.

And if you to sort of forget the reviews and

any, anything anyone says about it or

comparing you to this person or that person,

what would have to happen in this series or

while it's going out for you to look back at

it and go, yeah, we really smashed that.

Like, but that was us doing the Grand Tour our way.

I feel quite satisfied already.

I just feel, I feel like we,

we all gave it our best shot.

All sides of the globe got to travel and do

car stuff that we would never,

ever otherwise able to do.

So.

back in and of itself is enough,

really.

But the audience opinion will shape it.

Like, you guys are content creators.

You get close to a video, you throw it out,

you hope it's good, you're not happy with it.

But then people like it and you're like,

it was all right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So there will be an element of that.

But I do know that we really tried.

We did.

We did.

We'd send you in the everything.

We instant our brains on it.

Yeah.

I also especially love that they're all

coming out in a batch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I can't wait a week.

I have that social media in mind.

I'm like, I can't wait a week.

I need it now.

Yeah.

Episode three.

That's three.

We were looking through the trailer when we

see we as just nerds, we're going,

it's got a back car.

Oh, there's an XKR in there.

There's a 350 in there.

So I cannot wait to watch the rest of them.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Well, congratulations to you guys on the first season.

I'm hoping that there will be lots more to come.

Thank you very much for joining us on a

special episode of the Cream Podcast.

Hope to see you back soon.

Thank you very much for listening guys.

We'll see you next week.

See you next week.

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