Ranking The Worst Car Mods, BYD Bond and Quail - C.R.E.A.M. #77
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- Edwin
- Will
- Ben
0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin
You're an idiot because you walk by bending your knees.
I'm walking straight.
I'm walking straight leg and there's no
carton in there at all.
We're not, we're not going to start any fights.
Hold on.
We're not going to eat all your food.
We're going to be very quiet.
I will.
I am.
Everything.
Quail, quail, quail, quail, quail,
quail, quail, quail, quail, quail,
quail, quail, quail, quail, quail,
quail, quail, quail, quail, quail,
quail, quail, quail, quail, quail,
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Hello, and welcome back to the 77th podcast
episode of Cars Rule Everything Around Me.
You thought I was going to trip,
but I didn't.
I stumbled with myself Edwin,
William to my left and Benjamin behind the behind.
At the beginning of every podcast,
we answer the question to Cars Rule or Ruin
everything around us this week.
William.
Ah, a mixed bag I have for thee.
We know something that you guys don't know yet.
One car I can confirm.
It's been sold and that is very sadly the yellow clear.
I can't believe it.
It was here for a day.
It was, yes.
It was here for one day.
We went out to lunch once.
I took it home once.
Yeah.
And that was it.
I'm a little bit sad, but
it's for a greater good overall.
And I thought, you know what,
I'm not really getting any use out of it at the moment.
It's currently with John at Cormoran and he
caught wind of the fact that I might sell.
And he said, would you, would you like to
sell that to me?
He said, how much that?
Yeah.
And then that sort of accent.
And I sold to him for what I think was quite
a good price.
He's helped me out quite a bit with that car.
And he now knows that car quite well.
Almost too well now.
He's not, it's kind of been the bane of his life.
But now it is his car.
It all happened quite quickly,
actually.
It was like Friday evening or Saturday and
basically it was sold by Sunday.
I can't believe I had it in the car still with him.
It's a very weird sale because it's like it
wasn't with me.
He said, I have the car.
Can I buy it?
Yes, you can buy it.
You have no closure.
No.
You never got to say goodbye.
No, crazy.
No, I went for a good old drive in it,
used it a fair bit and that's it.
But also got it back on the road and running
and now it works as it should.
It's done a few hundred miles now.
No starter motor issue.
I'm not happy.
I haven't mentioned this yet about this car
because you very casually came into the day
and told us you'd sold it.
Now...
Yeah, I forgot.
Remember a bet we had?
Yeah.
What you said you wouldn't buy one?
Oh, sorry.
Did I miss out in terms of conditions?
Yeah, but it kind of feels a little bit like,
you know, a little bit scamming that you just
bought it for a couple of weeks and sold it.
Well, do you think buying an S2000 and
putting it in storage and letting it cross
away to the point?
That's interesting, isn't it?
Now, the bet was not that he would keep it forever.
I know it just feels like...
I was not saying...
Do you think he bought it simply?
Do you think he spent over thousands of
pounds just to simply...
I mean, we do know this man.
When a bet.
And we do know this man, he would.
But, no, I thought...
I'm not saying that you've done anything wrong.
I'm just saying that it feels a little bit like...
It feels a bit...
I'll get what you're saying,
but you're going to have to suck out.
Also, do you know what Ben, that means?
What that means?
A space in the team has opened up Team Clio,
we know that there can only ever be two,
there may not be three.
So Ben, feel free.
I do feel free.
You never know because it's waiting for me.
At any moment, I could buy one.
At any moment, I could be back.
If things don't pan out the way,
you know, Will's hoping, I might buy like a hundred.
I will want one.
So that's now gone.
Basically, I will not see that.
Well, I might see it again, but not in my ownership.
Mégane, as you know, is back.
Still good.
That's great.
He's behind us.
Still working, it's right behind us.
The Range Rover, I'm yet to get fixed.
That's getting fixed next week.
I hope and then it will get sold.
And then, I only really lose one more car.
Well, I don't have any other cars now.
Come on, I don't, do I?
Unconfirmed.
Unconfirmed.
There has been a large movement in the garage.
In the tides.
But unconfirmed yet.
So there will be news on that mixed feelings.
Creamers also have been on the such for a new
daily because, again, I've kind of resigned
to myself to the fact that I think the Range
Rover will go the CV Joint Exploding has been
almost a final nail in its quite large coffin.
Otherwise, a really trouble free coffin.
Otherwise, a really trouble free car.
And I've done 30,000 miles in it,
but after a while, the cost does get a little
4:18 Daily Car Search and Lamborghini Interest
bit.
Even if it works, you're still getting 20 to 25 MPG.
They still cost well over it.
Even for me, as an old man with a clean
license, over a grand a year to ensure 800.
That's a large number.
You need a tire.
It's going to be expensive.
So I would like to end that and put that
money into fun cars.
Yes.
That would be nice.
Because you don't mind spending that on a
lovely blue sky weekend car.
Yellow sky.
Yeah.
You know, well, maybe you can't see the sky.
And so I've been looking at dailies and I
haven't come to a decision, but there's a vibe.
But there's a vibe and it's an Italian vibe.
And they've been looking at one five nine
second Lamborghini glass.
I thought I'd go with the vert.
Yeah, that one.
But I've been looking at one five nine's
because I think they've, I think it's so good.
So cool.
I've been trying, I've been looking at like,
perhaps, and I'm very sorry to say it,
like, golfs and even like fiesta's and folks
is, I can't bring myself to do it.
They're economically working,
they're cheap to fix and they're cheap to
run, but I can't do it.
But it's something like a one five nine just feels.
Hey, you're speaking to the wrong person.
Ben's famously hates them.
You hate the one five.
I forgot.
But do you not remember this?
This is from early podcast.
Oh, even Ben.
I don't remember now.
I don't know what car it is.
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Ben, here you go.
Don't tell me that is not one of the best
looking modern cars.
I don't.
I'm saying we're talking about 17 year old
car, basically, at this stage.
Almost 20, the old ones.
I know what this is now.
I like the rear is nice, the interior is nice.
Do not.
I just, it doesn't dearth me.
I don't like those headlights.
I don't think Alfa have made a better looking car since.
Agreed, fully agreed.
I don't think the julia looks great and
stuff, but there's, it isn't that.
You know what, the julia could be any car.
If you took the front, if you took the front
nose, the Alfa.
Scabetto?
Is that what it's called?
I should know that and I don't.
But if you took that off, it could be any
car, could be an N3, it could be this one.
But when you look at the design of this,
like the inset lights and then the like
overhanging bonnet is so perfectly Alfa,
it's so good.
I used to want one many, many moons ago and I
ended up having a Brere when I was like 19.
To be fair, it was actually a bit of a letdown.
It was kind of, as a 19 year old with V6,
it was cool.
7:25 Alfa Romeo 159 Discussion
Yeah.
But it was not a great car at all.
But now I want to one five nine either,
probably be a diesel and not only just
because of economy and what such,
but that's a T.I.
one.
Or at least that's the T.I.
wheels.
It's got a really cool wheels.
I don't mind red, but there you can get them
in black on tan, Benjamin.
That would be a good one.
That would be a best spec.
And it all feels they've got like Alfa
stitched into their head rest.
It just feels a little bit more,
not necessarily premium.
Special.
It's a bit more Italian.
Yeah, it's a bit more a little something.
But when you compare that side by side to an E-93 series.
Yeah.
Just rep my bill.
There's just something, like the three series
is just a three series.
There's nothing to make you to make you stir
to use the James May coin.
Yeah, when I was looking at them before,
obviously it was like 13 years ago or
something, and they didn't have the same sort
of issues they do now, which is rast.
I was quite surprised.
I thought, okay, I'm on 5.9.
They're perfectly good.
And then
you have a look online and it's like subframe
corrosion,
sill corrosion is a massive thing.
So try to find a clean
one, maybe difficult.
I was quite like a two-litre diesel,
(indistinct) and gearboxes and whatever,
but the gearbox is a massive weak point,
apart from apparently the two-litre diesel.
That's awful.
Two-litre, ideal world, two-litre diesel,
wagon, which sport wagon or spaghetti wagon.
I'll take a salon.
But wagon of course.
Color, I like black, I like,
I saw a white one.
I was very surprised that I liked that.
Like a white, even over a tan or a black
leather will do me.
Or I don't know, there's not many colors,
if I'm honest.
I always liked and I looked when I was,
this would have been just when I met you at Carthrel.
I was looking at 147 standards,
'cause I couldn't ensure anything else.
But they did like a metallic red,
a dark red.
I'm number one red hater.
We're also competition.
It's the 8C color.
Yeah, exactly 8C color.
That on a 159 and 147, that's nice.
I like that.
I think it might either isn't,
I think it's quite rare.
It's very rare.
Someone did it on a braero.
Yeah, it's really rare.
But yeah, just feeling a little alpha.
I mean, that could be a dreadful mistake,
Yes.
Yeah, and you've got to have some form of
Italian in your life.
Yeah, but you've already got one.
Sorry, yeah.
You've got to feel like that,
haven't we?
Ben.
Okay.
Well, Rule, because you've been driving your S2000 round.
Hmm, okay.
Well, you know what, seeing as the,
seeing as the McGahn is back,
we need some sort of forgazy to keep,
you know, keep the creamers going with.
So like the, you know, it switched from
McGahn's coming back every week to I'm
getting the S2000 every week.
I think this time next week,
Ben's going to go.
No, no, there's a reason.
There is a reason not to get a something
shell before you.
And you will go, I can't, I can't,
how could I?
I can't.
I can't, why?
Because I can't.
Now, would you, you're going to start
draining it then, you're going to start
driving it home back forth.
What if, so why is this?
How's it coming back from the unit?
You'll swap the, so the golf,
we go off sitting in the unit,
you know, we're touching it.
Backing out a way for the summer.
Keep the miles off it.
Okay.
Back it goes in.
Nah, surely not.
Me?
Cheshire.
See, you want to put it to the test,
basically.
No, he's, I just want to flashback to the
last
week where we were making fun of Ben for him,
you know, Skit-Toe
Ben, flip-hopping, where he go,
"I don't know, I'm ready to
tell it."
And then last week he was, "I love it.
That's an
amazing car."
And then this week Ben is, "Yeah,
see, I'll
see if I like it."
You're at that stage, it's like the,
it's a relationship that you're basically at
the end of.
But, like, you've got like a one-way one last
thing we got, look, let's have a sit-down.
Is there something we can do?
Is there something we can do?
And the S2000, it has to perform.
The S2000 has to do
something that really gets your hair going.
And then the
back end.
The back end just switches around and he
goes, "Right,
that's it."
You've always been like this.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't like it.
Right, okay.
Yeah.
Like what else?
investment portfolio.
Yeah.
Or you're a state agent business.
But he owns.
Yeah.
Have you successfully managed to buy the
entirety of Bristol yet?
Have they accepted the offer?
Okay, yeah.
We're exactly there.
They're a little bit frosty now,
aren't they?
Liquidity is not great until that one becomes back in.
I'm going to say it is rule for me.
It's rule for me.
I drove the, I've been driving the TBR a little bit.
I love it.
I do really love that car.
I know it's, I keep, it keeps making me
think, do I have that?
I go look at it, I'm like, I have that.
I took it to take Will to an undisclosed
location to pick Will up, sorry,
because he didn't have a
way home from an undisclosed location on the weekend.
And
then I went, oh, let me run into town and get a haircut.
A part of the car up, a creamer actually came
up to me.
And as you speak to me, someone reversed into
the TBR, which was nice.
How do you do that?
It is green.
Do you know what the guy said to me,
right?
I was, yeah, I was actually not too upset
because it's 150,000 mile car.
It has scratches all over the front anyway.
And it didn't make much of a mark.
But he said, I parked up, got the car,
I was talking to this guy for a few minutes.
This guy just reversed at two mile an hour into it.
And he went, oh, are you always there?
I went, it is bright green, if I'm honest.
And he went, yeah, fair.
He immediately backed.
He was like, yeah, no, sorry.
I was trying to get out of it.
No, you must have just dashed into that.
He must have reversed into all the bright
green objects right by the alien UFO.
But no, that's fine.
I've polished it out already.
It was just a little scratch.
Tis butter scratch.
But other than that, I think I'm happy.
I've driven the Clio Tour every day.
That's working.
Alignment's a little bit rough on that at the moment.
It kind of went from quite a cool little road track car.
I put the coilovers on, haven't aligned it yet.
And now it's kind of just Cadillac in nature.
A little bit soaring at the wheel,
which is nice.
But not much to report.
It hasn't been.
We are doing something this week on Thursday.
I'm quite excited for.
We're going on an Ollie day to buy a car.
Ben's not.
Ben deliberately set this all out so that he
wouldn't come with us.
It was the country.
It was the country.
And he said, I don't want to go there.
I know someone from there.
I'm busy that day.
And then we said, well, about this day.
And he went, I'm on holiday that day.
So I can't
really do that.
That's per usual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One like seven week holiday.
14:30 Brown Barge Car Description and BMW E61 Wagon
Ben, we're saying Ben is the person who scans
the calendar for like how to maximize those holidays.
So if Ben's on the podcast for the next,
I don't know, three months, just
because he's taking, he's only taking three
days off, but
we won't see him for a month.
He's managed to.
Well, you're on holiday doing niche.
Sipping peanut collarders in Exeter or whatever.
Right.
So that's three.
I didn't actually give an answer.
Mine will be a ruin.
Okay.
It will be a ruin.
There's nothing, nothing.
No, no major reason, but it's just,
it's 'cause it's up in the year.
Two rules on a ruin.
Back to the classic.
No more, no more triple rules.
Shall we get on to some anecdotes and what such?
Edwin, you've put in here that the brown
barge goes on holiday.
I've been so excited to hear this.
I saw it coming on Saturday evening.
I'll be honest, it's not exactly what you think.
As we said in previous episodes,
I have to remind ourselves by adding extra
anecdotes privately to work out what it is.
I'm going to show you, I'm going to describe
to you a car.
Can we explain the brown barge first?
The brown barge is your old BMW E61 Wagon.
It's just an old five series wagon from the 2000s.
Brown.
Brown in nature.
And it was, you know, a car,
I'd say for sure, for a while.
It was brown on brown.
It was brown on beige.
Yeah, which is an interesting aspect.
But it was also, it was triple brown.
Because it looked brown.
It looked out.
Okay.
It looked brown externally.
It had basically a brown interior.
And then also it had been parked in the field.
So it smelled
kind of like brown and a bit of green.
Okay, I'm going to describe to you a car.
It is a 2010 BMW 535i.
That is the N54.
That is the big, big engine.
In an E60 wagon, five series wagon,
but it is an X drive, which is an American only.
It's a manual.
Wow.
Yeah.
Manual with an M sport kit.
So he's got the full kit.
Cars and bids a rival podcast,
you know, podcast to us.
And one that we have kind of beef with a
little bit of quiet beef with Mr.
always good to mention.
Small creators with Mr.
Demure himself.
Well, how much did that car sell for?
Dollars.
It's America.
Is it low miles?
I'm just going to put you out your misery.
It was $52,500.
What the hell?
five?
Surely it's low miles.
It's 50,000 miles.
Okay.
So it's low miles ridiculously low,
but not crazy.
Yeah.
And it was a real I was served of Mr.
Demure and his and his band of merriman
talking about this car.
And they're going, dude, this thing's perfect.
Dude, this is the ultimate wagon.
This is the best car on earth.
I think that's a great deal.
What are we talking about here?
50,000 pounds.
I've worked their own pounds like 30,
30, 30, 30.
Yeah.
We do.
For like, that is mint M5 money.
Yeah.
That's perfect M5 money.
I get it, right?
It's manual and it's an all-drive one is,
but this isn't special.
I know it is and it's rare.
I looked up and apparently there's something
like 50 of these made.
So it's a rare car.
That's because it's a weird combination.
It's a manual four-wheel drive estate car.
But they're going in like the ultimate
station wagon, like the ultimate wagon.
That would be a M5.
I've just described an RS4, but with a bad engine.
Exactly, there's RS4s, there's RS6s,
there's M5s.
Why are we getting so excited about an engine
that is, hey, look, you can fight about the
M54 until the end of the earth.
They are not great when they're not well-looked after.
Oh, they could be.
If they're well-looked after,
amazing engines.
But they're not bulletproof.
We can run them like a 2J badly or no oil
when it goes.
Yeah, I'll just deal with it.
Also, it's not special.
I know it's a good engine.
You can make power and it's powerful enough
as it is standard, but it's not like you
know, last of its kind engine.
It's not like an S8 of V10 or V8.
It's replaced by the M55, which was arguably better.
People are going to get upset about that.
But hey, the M55 made it into an actual M car.
Yeah, one M you can argue.
And then it replaced again by the B58.
Let's stop the argument there.
Yeah.
But more importantly, you spend $50,000
on an E61 on a brown barge.
A very different brown barge.
It's black.
I thought we were going for.
No, unfortunately, not the, is it a wild?
Is it like a, this is individual sepia green,
green, McGrunick and the interior is an
extended half extended half leather,
half suede, Majingas.
Black of a black.
Great.
It's just black of a black.
Or maybe it is an individual color,
but it looks to be black of a black.
It's individual black.
Yeah.
This is the only one of these exact car
painted in this color.
It's black.
But that was, that's, you know what,
it just confused me.
But it confused me all that I was expecting.
I was expecting some reaction of like,
what's going on?
Yeah.
And they were all like, yeah,
no, this makes sense.
That's totally normal.
Absolutely.
I paid up.
I'd happily pay that.
Well, I wish I was at the auction.
Because the thing, you've got a paddle in my hand.
The equivalent is when an American car comes
here, we don't go, whoa.
Yeah.
That's so rare.
We need it.
No, it's still worth 11 pounds.
Yeah.
And we go.
That car's ripe for just sitting in the
corner of Facebook Marketplace.
Yeah.
On a slightly overgrown, grassy driveway.
Yeah.
With a sort of gray painted house.
The corner of an American flag visible
somewhere hidden behind perhaps a voxel combo van.
That's also on the drive as well.
What we got next?
James, no, not James Bond.
We'll get to James Bond.
Perhaps that was a crafty little retention
thing for you.
Oh, Ben is the new James Bond confirmed.
That's it.
M3 wagon thing.
And for that, I will have to tell you,
last year, BMW did some form of japery,
some jokery.
They didn't April for those things.
I've pulled up the wrong photo,
apologies.
Oh, I thought you meant that thing.
No, briefly, we can mention that afterwards.
This is a race
car that BMW are actually going to race this year.
This
will be some weeks old by this point,
but we missed it last
week.
Car is actually going racing,
going racing.
So it's got a ridiculous rear wing.
It's kind of crazy.
It reminds me a little bit of the John Olsen
RS6 many, many moons ago.
Look, wagons have had in previous times a
place in racing.
You've
got 850 BTCC Volvo.
So why not?
Run it.
Let's see what it
does.
I think it's called P58 engine.
It's apparently a little bit longer and a bit
wider, I think than what you'd have usually
had with an M4.
Got some width on it.
But what I now want to see, I now want to see
is that without delivery on the street.
So we can have an M3 Touring Touring.
A Touring Touring Touring.
So it's a Touring Racer.
It's a non-race car or it'll be a Touring RS.
Touring Racing Touring.
It's for Touring, but racing.
But like racing.
Not the one you're thinking of.
If you try and put your dog in the boot,
he's going to hit his head on some scaffolding.
He's going to be a little bit upset.
And also news that we weren't expecting
perhaps to speak
22:02 E46 M3 Wagons and Touring RS
about, or at least I wasn't,
is that there's a company making an E46 Touring.
I'll be honest, I know nothing about this.
Well, no, that's called BMW.
They make the E46 Touring.
But what a company in the UK has done is they
are now making E46 M3 wagons,
something that you can just buy.
So if you don't know until now,
the E46 M3 only ever came as a coupé.
There have been people over the years
converting them to M3s, perhaps even Otto
Alex himself built himself.
The wagon that he wanted out his old car.
However, this company, which are called,
I think, Petroyl, oh, I've got photo here.
Petroylium.
Petroyl are building E46 M3s wagons,
but to whatever spec you want.
So they've done a launch, which is Laguna
Saker Blue over cinnamon.
Makes sense.
I don't like that spec.
I'm not a fan of this spec.
I love Laguna Saker Blue.
I'm going to say it.
Sometimes I like more than Oxford Green.
It's the one that originally took my,
my heart for the E46 M3.
But over cinnamon, I'm not too sure it works.
I don't really...
I just don't like E46.
I kind of get it.
I understand it.
Do you know what it is?
It's because from, if you look at the rear
quarter, like the upper rear quarter,
the boot, let's say, the boot and the roof
from that corner, that's just the normal E46.
And also the rear lights are the normal
touring ones, which are all like the pre facelift ones.
So you don't have, I don't get
it.
They like it, if you know what I mean?
It's just like they like it because,
oh, that should be cool.
So I think it's cool.
That is a bad shaped car.
It's not as good as a coupe.
It's way worse than a coupe.
I get it.
It's the car that BMW made one and now people
are going, I'm going to make it.
But I know it adds BMW would have done,
but it doesn't look as good as a coupe.
Now, it's cool that they, because it's a
company offering it, they have said,
you don't have to have a S54.
We can do a zero mile S54.
Or we can do a V10.
We can do an S85 for a while.
We can do a V8, an S65.
We can do an S60.
Whatever you want, they will put in there,
which is that, I think is cool.
If you can go to a company and say,
build me a wagon, but yeah, I'm the same.
It's just, it leaves me a little bit.
You cannot tell me that from the back,
like you cut off the front arches and stuff
from the back, but you know,
halfway back.
And it looks anything other than just a
normally 46 or something.
It needs a little something,
not a lot of stuff.
They do look a little bit like frontal round,
which are the 18 inch wheels.
They also, they're also technically the incorrect color.
They should be a shadow crime,
not a full silver.
Thank you.
But do you know what I get?
I can see why a company has done that because
there's going to be a million and one.
Yo, no, I've been yearning for,
I'm touring you for this sake.
I just wish they built.
Could I have hands, tooth over,
hands, tooth like houses on the outside?
How many shades green do you do?
And then on the inside, like a brown con yuck.
In the, on the new M3, where does the M3
wagon sit in your, in your space?
It would sit just below, as in,
in, so you have M3, M3 normal M4.
It goes M3.
Yeah.
M3 touring.
I do, I love the new M3 touring.
He's been designed to be so.
Yeah, if you know what I mean.
And then it would be a M4 after that.
I don't even like the M4.
I'm the same.
M4 is, Ben is.
Well, the option is going to go again.
So, well, actually you can have,
so you've got M3 touring.
Yeah.
Normal M3, which is a four door.
Yeah.
The M4, which is a two door coupe and an M4 convertible.
I'm ranking them.
You're ranking it.
Go like M3 normal, M3 touring,
M4 normal, M4 touring.
Do you know what?
No, do you know what?
Sometimes I care so little about the M4 coupe.
That the vert goes above it.
Okay.
Because sometimes I see like a Miami spec,
which is like kind of a silly,
loud color on the outside, some big chrome
wheels, and then like a light colored champagne interior.
I think, do you know what?
I like the M4 coupe so little.
Yeah.
I can deal with that somewhere,
but it somewhere sits somewhere between,
I have an M3.
Yeah.
But maybe perhaps if I had to have an M4,
maybe I just would get the vert.
But yeah, no, the touring, I don't get that.
I'm possibly in a minority.
I'd be interested to see more specs.
I want to see what people come out with.
Because now that it's a thing that you can
just go and buy, that's the thing that a lot
of people won't want to deal with.
They'll have the money for it,
but they're going to go, so I need to go and
buy two cars.
I need to then pay someone to pull an S54
out, then I need to go and find a body shop
who'll put a rear quarter on.
I don't want to deal with this.
Whereas if there's a company like a singer
that you can go to, that's what I mean,
it makes sense.
Make me something.
We'll start probably seeing some cool specs.
No idea.
No idea at all.
Okay, so just revealing it.
Because I think we spoke about it briefly on
the one of the last, last podcast about Mcroft.
Yes.
There's one M1s and a man.
That I'm hearing.
That one M1.
I like one M's.
And even because we were talking about colors
and it was like how I'm not normally a fan.
If someone makes either a recreation or
something like that or a rest in mod,
I like it to go a factory color,
but like a factory color, not necessarily a
BMW color, but one that fits that model.
Yes.
And it's like if someone starts painting it a
San Marino blue or whatever,
it starts to look, it's BMW,
but if it was available there,
it becomes a show.
Yeah, it's like a show car.
But those are like, as an Alpina green one
and there's a Hockenheim silver one and man,
it's because they pick the right wheels,
it's just right, it has the right engine,
man.
That is a dream build.
What is your ultimate?
Now we're in BMWs here, let's say BMW.
What's your ultimate BMW build?
Does it exist or would you like to make it?
It does.
Okay, what's that?
It would be basically the current generation
M3, underneath.
And that's it.
Thanks so much for coming out.
And I just pay them underneath.
the drive train and all that sort of thing.
And then I'd have the current Alpina 3 Series,
whatever.
A B3S.
Yeah.
But is that the design?
Yeah, because that's got that has been S58 engine.
Does it?
Yeah.
I can talk about this multiple times.
I love the shape of the, I guess that was no
longer the current 3 Series.
The current 3 Series Saloon,
28:22 Ultimate BMW Build Dream Car
I've loved that since it came out.
So that was that with that other front end.
Alpina B3 Touring S.
Black with a tan tier.
Oh, lovely.
You see like a really tasteful M3 now,
and you can get BMW make bright silver
wheels from factory.
Yeah.
Well, those wheels are, I thought.
I want those wheels.
Yeah.
You're right for a little resto company to come along.
Yes.
You can't pinpoint it.
If you go to them with those options and they
go, "What about this?"
You go, "That is the car."
It was 150,000 pounds.
There they go.
Thanks for the deposit.
Paid another 400 a minute.
The sixth generation of Alpina B3 in
September 2019, followed the sedan version,
car is powered by the same S58 straight six
engine as the M3, but tuned to produce 461
horsepower and made it to an eight speed
transmission and all wheel drive as standard.
So meaning that you have the looks of an
M340, non-big, gopping grille,
but with the running gear for an M3.
That's my guy.
I'm assuming that's diff and everything and
all the driving.
Yeah, I'm going to see the drive mode and all that stuff.
Okay.
That's been interesting.
Simply fantastic.
I like those all well.
For me, I would still love one day.
One of my end goals ever is E31A series with the V10.
Yeah.
Because that's my favorite looking BMW for all time.
It is for me, perfect.
For me, impossible.
Ray Romano.
Yes.
He built that.
He did.
But
again, as we've spoken about in the part,
again, he wasn't necessarily going for the
sort of rest stone mod thing as such.
He's just modifying it as he wishes.
But it was that vibe.
Because it had a V10 in it.
It was very clean, well made,
but just a tad, just a bit too much.
Yeah, a little bit too much off the market.
I just want some Alpina 18s,
an Alpina front lip, and some nice interior stuff.
And then I'll be happy.
Yeah, but a lot of people have done it,
but there are challenges that you have to deal with.
Like, for instance, the car,
the engine doesn't like being in there.
Oh, that's some major.
I don't fit between these strut towers.
So if you could deal with that,
and then you have to get an angle grinder out
and you go, "Hey, hi."
But so just another episode of three old men
shouting at the world turning.
Bring back the old stuff.
It was better, but it was way better in 2016.
You remember the summer?
Ben, you've been here.
James Bond in a B-Y data.
What sort of bollocks is this?
Yeah, that's, it's a weird one.
It's what it is.
There he is, looking like a thumbnail.
It's a crazy photo.
Basically Daniel Craig, who played James Bond
until recently, has signed some sort of new
ambassador deal for Denza.
Okay, a Chinese brand which is owned by B-Y-D.
So he's on the face of it.
Lovely.
So he's got Master Martin to this.
Can you describe on the screen what you're saying?
Okay, so we have got a car.
Imagine a state car from Watch Dogs 2.
Very good description.
And now imagine a giant Daniel Craig staring
down a planet.
He is upwards of 40 foot tall.
Yes, he's also staring directly at you.
He's actually looking at the car.
He's sort of looking at you going,
he's going, this is a B-Y-D.
And you know what, this is speculation,
but he probably got paid, you know,
we're probably tens of millions of pounds this.
I was going to, I thought you were going to
say this is speculation, but he might not be,
he might be Photoshopped into that photo.
And do you know what, Ben?
I'm seeing where you're going with that.
It's not a very well Photoshopped.
That's like my level of attempt.
Well, we've got this one.
There's another photo here.
I saw another one where I actually saw a
different one to this.
Maybe I saw a four by four one.
I couldn't get it up without.
He looks three or four different ages.
Yeah, in every single one.
Because there, that is, that is,
what is the car?
What is the car?
I have a baseball cap on.
Now, this is, I knew this would become a
question and I've been wondering this for many years.
Many moons, the car has a taxi light.
Like, you know, when you see an old American,
no, no, it's not.
You know when you see an old American film
from New York and there's taxi,
they've got their little baseball cap thing
right above the windscreen, little thing that
lights up taxi, or perhaps an English taxi,
you know, which everyone you like.
I've been noticing it because I saw this in
my review mirror the other day.
Evolvo, which can you see has the same thing?
It has a bulge.
What it is, I just looked it up for,
is a Lydar scanner and it was something
installed by an aftermarket E sort of
company, they won
like a bid with Volvo to install Lydar
detectors in the
front of the car to help prevent crashes and
for say three
months.
phone camera up to it, it would destroy your
phone's camera, which is nice.
But so yeah, it's Lydar to try and help prevent crashes.
It started as a factory standard equipment
thing for Volvo's, then it became optional,
and now it's being canceled.
So I'm not sure it's gone that well.
But I believe it's Daniel Craig.
Well, he's going and you can say Daniel,
mate, what is the new Z9 GT's roof line about?
They'll go, that's the Lydar scanner.
It prevents what it does is shoots rockets.
Yeah, it can scan your baddies in front of
you and really print them for you.
And you can do whatever them with them,
what you like.
Now, I just think it feels like a cop out,
doesn't it, from old James?
But, I mean, hey, money talks.
Money does talk, but let's be real here,
James.
You would.
I don't think I would.
I would, for like, okay, right now,
I'm a Chinese factory, making cars.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Hi, William.
You're from the Cream Podcast,
is it?
I think so.
Yeah, I know that.
I love your work.
I know you haven't swatched a single thing.
I've watched all of it.
How about $10 million to have your face on?
Yeah, I don't care what you,
whatever you've said.
Okay.
I'm doing it.
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Can I, but, is it enough, 10 mil?
10 mil, you're buying a Zollars.
Yeah, no, we're going to go,
yeah, Dollars.
Dollars, there's taxes.
You're going to take me home.
I'm only really talking, like,
ones on during a bit of chump change.
You're talking, like, four mil take home,
British.
I was talking about the tax as well.
Yeah.
No, it's not worth it.
No, you're not.
So, four million quid takes home.
Like, four million pounds in your hand right now.
Yeah, but how can I come on this podcast ever again?
After, how many times have we abused electric cars?
It's true, but at the same time,
you'd have us on the sick behind us,
not with a gun.
Yeah.
Perhaps, perhaps.
So you're saying no to four million quid?
It would make things much easier.
It would, yeah, no.
Yeah.
Your life would be, I'd say,
I'd call it life-changing money.
Also, people forget.
Exactly.
People forget.
Do you know what?
Do you, if, right, in 20 years,
if someone says to me, "I'm a Daniel Craig,
I'm going to go that bloke from the denser ads."
No, I'm going to stop promoting them electric cars.
I'm going to go, "What, James Bond?"
But then, what you might get is,
"Yeah, he was James Bond."
You're going, "Yeah, he sold out though,
didn't he?"
Yeah, BYD.
And then he drives past you in his Zomburgos.
Yeah.
I think, well, four million pounds,
I think you're doing it.
What's the number?
Clear in your account, you finished it.
I'll go and post tax number.
Do you email?
Yeah.
If I could clear a, if I could clear a
comfortable seven figures in the account,
seven.
Where's the decimal point, though?
It's 200, but with the point.
Yeah.
The cut up, a million quid, just like flat,
arse taxes, I'm happy.
Okay.
Yeah.
So just know that they're going to be
listening to this, writing it down.
Yeah.
Oh, they're going to give me a million quid.
Oh, no, please don't do that.
That's what I'm saying is, but by you're
underselling yourself by saying 200.
Exactly.
They just wrote down one, and they did the comma.
Yeah, because you can say 00,
and then they went, oh, you said that number,
and they described it off.
Yeah.
You give them a grand.
Don't speak to them anymore.
You can come down, but you can't go back up.
That's a great question.
So I'm a job 10 mil.
10 mil, I'll take a million.
So basically it's two mil.
You're just laying it out on the table.
You're like, let's save some negotiation time.
You're going to knock me down to two.
I'm going to go back up to, let's just call
that a mil.
I call it a bit.
It's not a bit.
Two mil.
Who is that?
No, it's a subsidiary of B.O.R.E.
That's all they are related to.
Right.
They're called Denza.
There's no amount of money, but this week's
episode is sponsored by Denza,
and I'm a big fan of them.
They've got these new electric cars.
I couldn't say that much.
I heard you arrive in your news under this one.
That was a surprise for sure.
I do it for...
Can I guess?
Yeah.
I think you do it for half a mil.
I think I do it for less than that.
Really?
Sure, why not?
Really?
What if there was an offer of a car?
A Denza?
Yeah.
I take it.
You know what?
I really love the offer.
I think you guys are amazing.
I think I have to pursue different
opportunities at this time.
What's it worth, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's the same question, but you can only
drive a Denza now for a sure life.
Oh, that's not just a daily or that's my only car.
You have one other car.
Oh, you can't be seen.
I have to be Batman.
But you know, that's
my thing.
But you know, celebs do like,
they like, I'm sponsored by,
you know, like F1 drivers are like sponsored
by tag or whatever it's like,
Oh, you got to work that on.
And they whack them off.
I want a little variety as the spice.
You can have one other fun car of your
choosing, obviously.
But at any point is in any time I can keep swapping out.
You can have a BID or a Denza.
Oh, that's a good one.
No, you know what?
No, you have one.
You can choose one fun car as well.
But ignore that part.
This is just basically how much are you
taking for this?
I don't know that that's, I don't know.
I do that.
You asked your two obsessed cars.
No, because I'd be like, is it indefinitely for life?
Or is it like 10 year?
No, definitely.
You have one car.
No, I can't do that.
Because if it was like 10 years and I'm
getting like a billion pounds,
then I'd think about it because I could build
my collection in the back.
Do you know what that is?
That's just doing prison.
That's 10 years of prison then.
You get out and you're like,
I'm free.
It's car arrest.
I'm on Denza arrest.
Do you get a brand new Denza?
That's what Daniel Craig's on right now.
You get a brand new Denza.
It doesn't look very pleased about it.
Now, this is what I wanted to say earlier.
All of the ads I've seen, he looks angry.
He looks like he's ready to punch out the
lights of the man who's just gone,
right, just take a step in front of that Denza,
please?
Can I have your-- He's giving it the James
Bond sort of smolder, which is ruining,
you know, it should, yeah, I don't think you
should do that.
Sorry, but can I actually have it number as this manager?
What?
Well, you didn't say I don't have a number.
It's just not happening.
I can't, I can't be that.
You say no.
For doing it with a lifetime.
Lifetime, one other car.
Lifetime signing with Denza.
No other cars are allowed some time.
So, Will, you could have like a most lighter.
You have to, but I can't use it,
can I?
Why?
I said one other fun car.
Yeah, I know, but I want other things.
Wow, okay, so maybe the most luggage isn't there.
I want to say other people as well.
That's what I mean, variety.
If all you have is from that to one other
car, it will get tired and healthy.
I know, it's a most luggage.
It's like, it's like just going from your
bedroom to the kitchen forever.
Not with a billion pounds.
No, but you never go outside.
What do you do with a billion pounds?
What are you going to do?
Just keep eating.
No, because you can still do other things.
It's not like you can-- Also,
this kind of argument is a bit lost on Ben,
because Ben's already there.
Ben's like, what am I going to do with
another billion pounds?
Why would that make a difference to
me?
Oh, a billion, is that it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, God.
Have you ever heard the term drop in the ocean?
This one won't even make a noise.
Notify me that that's gone in.
They might say we are your bank.
They won't say a deposit of a billion pounds.
You'll see it come in and you'll go,
oh, lovely.
That's my 1%
interest.
Fantastic.
Oh, interest rates a little bit less.
So, yeah, Chinese companies just rolling us
out left, right
and center there.
Shull out, Tensor.
James Bond and Volvo
and the baseball cap thing, didn't know about that.
Ben, I'm
going to read this verbatim.
40:05 Monterey Car Week and Quail Invitation
I'm on a shooting trip, but I'm blind.
Could you advance?
So, we're going this year to Monterey Car.
We've got
another one before, but we're putting more feelers out.
Ben's
upset because he did a media inquiry for
media passes for
us for the quail.
And he has a big event at Monterey Car Week
and we didn't hear back instantly.
But at the time, local time for them was 3 a.m.
Yeah, so having her back today.
So we would like to extend anyone who has any
access on anything about anything.
Get us in, please.
Now, this is why I decided to let this run.
I'd like to understand.
Who do you think is watching this?
I think there's a good thing about it.
We went somewhere recently.
We went somewhere recently.
We went somewhere recently.
What's that mean?
Where did we go?
Where did we go?
We went to an exquisite car selling department.
What does that mean?
The department store for selling an exquisite automobile.
Enjoy Montreco.
They famously enjoy Montreco.
We have been visiting there,
visited there once, and we had a tour and
what such, and we very much enjoyed it.
And we launched to our surprise two or three
people that worked there.
They had, "Oh, yeah, listen to the podcast
and watch the channel."
I was stunned to my core that someone who can
deal with what they deal with every single
day will then come home or on their commute
to work or come home and go,
"You know, what?
Back with the cream pod cast on."
Let me hear Ben talk about his billions,
let us hear about custard and whatever else
they're talking about.
We just talked about custard.
We just cut in one quick custard clip here.
Birds custard.
Birds custard.
Is it birds?
No, birds.
Ambrosia.
Ambrosia.
That was nice in my ear.
I just want custard now.
Sorry, audio friendly.
No, it's just like, please.
This might be what ends up being on a Patreon.
If we do start it, it'll be a 30-minute
ramble about custard beforehand.
But anyway, Poincassants are one side.
I want to talk about Monterey Car.
We don't know who's out there listening,
but it's worth an ask.
Who do you think is listening?
Gordon Murray, Christian Vonkonigsek,
Materi Mack.
All together.
We know that they're not.
But what we're hoping for is that someone
close to them is their partners,
their best friends, their brothers,
their mothers.
Don't, we can provide social media content.
The video we can provide.
We can also provide entertainment in the form of jokes.
You haven't seen it here yet,
but just trust we can do that.
Like if the time came, we'll make the song.
Exactly.
We'll do Christian Vonkonigsek's Exet Day at Quail.
We just want to go to the Quail.
More than anything, please.
Okay.
So that's a shout out.
I don't think it's a lot to ask.
We're not asking.
What we're not asking for?
Well, I'm not saying it's not like,
give me a car.
No, I want you to just let me into your establishment.
Most three more that they charge,
right?
No.
But what is that actually worth?
They're renting the place out.
What's it worth to you?
They're renting it out.
It's not an airplace.
It's not worth anything to me.
I'll do it in an Instagram post.
For Denza.
We're not going to start any fights.
Hold on.
We're not going to eat all your food.
We're going to be very quiet.
I will.
I am.
I'm going to eat everything.
Hold on.
We're missing.
It's been looking us in the face the entire time.
Denza can get us in.
Denza can get us in.
If they can put a
giant Daniel Craig behind their car,
they can get us into
the quail.
That's true.
I think it's their last thing budget,
not now.
Where is the quail?
It's at the quail.
It's at the mincilla hotel.
Is it by the sea?
No.
It's in common now.
You famously drove past it.
Do you remember that?
I don't know why I thought I was thinking of
Pebble Beach.
I was thinking of getting in my boat.
Or by helicopter.
Also, just for people that aren't wearing the
sea line, it goes up to a road which is public access.
You arrive by boat just to be on the same
road that we were on without access.
Yeah, exactly that.
You'd arrive and
then go, "I'm in it."
They go, "No, the line starts here."
But depending on the boat, if I point them
out and go, "I've just come off that boat,"
they go, "Oh, true, yeah, no,
that's true.
I just got out of a Yukon."
They go, "Well, you're probably a tourist,
don't you?"
If I had shorts on as well.
How are you then?
I've said it before.
I'm willing to sneak in.
But Ben doesn't want to do it.
I think we go in and go big,
long trench coats, all three of us sat on each other.
Also, it's going to be very long.
It's going to be very long.
That would be 18 feet of man.
Sure, yeah, well, that would be big.
But in less than they go cold.
It looks like it's been him.
I reckon we could flag our way in.
I think we could.
But also the same people who do have the
ability who are just about to send off a
message here and just go, "I'll sneak in."
What do you mean by that?
You'll sneak in.
No, we won't.
On a real one, please.
We will be good.
No, we won't.
We'll be good.
Last minute.
We'll try to behave ourselves.
Last minute.
If I look through the gates and I see
something I'm interested in,
I will have to use from speech skills.
Speech?
You're going to try.
You're going to try and smooth.
What would you do?
All right.
I'm the security guard.
I'm the security guard.
I'd laugh.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we're together.
We haven't got the quail.
I'm dead.
I'm not sneaking in.
I'm going to go back.
It's just been you.
Edwin's swimming to the pill beach.
I'm going to go back to silliness.
I'm done.
Okay.
So you're now on your own and you see,
but you're coming with me.
It's just me.
It's just you.
Or you've got to get in.
And you're dressed the part.
You look great.
What time is it?
I go.
Why are you looking over there?
I'm here.
It's still early.
Was it nine o'clock at open?
Why is it too scary?
It's 10 o'clock in the morning.
It's 10 o'clock in the morning.
So quite early in the morning.
You're all carried out.
I forgot my past.
Incredibly
prestigious event.
Hi.
Hi, you're English.
You're clearly not from here.
I came all the way.
Sorry.
Why did you give
me attitude there?
That's a bit of a crazy way.
I came all the way here.
And I've left my past inside.
You left it
inside.
I came out for a smoke with Christian.
Do you know, Christian?
Which guy?
No, Christian and Gordon went out for a segue.
Who are they?
They made some of the greatest cars the
world's ever seen.
OK.
Mr.
Koenigsegg and Mr.
Murray.
OK.
Tash, shirt, not a lot of hair.
Another shirt.
That's one guy.
Two guys.
In one shirt.
Don't take the piss out of my friends.
Two guys.
Death friends.
OK.
And your security.
So let's not take the piss out.
All right.
I'm sorry about that, sir.
Sorry.
OK.
That's what I do.
So if you've side note, I've got a guilt trip.
I've got him now.
So now he's thinking of offended as mate.
OK.
I've left my pulse in there.
Right.
OK.
Let me get to that.
Well, mate, it's about to do a speech.
Hold on.
You've already been inside.
Right.
Yes.
So where did you leave your pass?
You've already been so you know where you
went in the VIP area.
Where's that?
In the top.
It's all flat.
Done a golf course, sir.
No, no, but it is at the top because there's
a elevated area that you wouldn't know.
No, I've already been here.
Like, how would you know at the gate?
Yeah.
Idiot.
Gordon and Chris, you can see them walking off.
OK.
Look over there.
OK.
Look, can you see them?
Oh, just.
Yeah.
And I'm in.
OK.
So I use, but you could have just,
I would just go on a watchability and
deception are powerful agents to the uninitiated.
OK.
So you're in at that point.
Yeah.
And then he turned around and go,
well, yeah.
Oh, he was going to match a trench coat coming.
But it's just you in a really long trench coat.
Yeah.
No, I think we're in.
So please.
The quail organizes us listening to everyone.
Absolutely.
Let's ramp up security.
If you do.
And intelligence of security.
Work for the quail.
Sorry.
Can we come in anyway?
Can we come in?
We'll make some content.
We'll have a good time.
We'll be very polite and we'll say please.
And thank you.
But we will eat every single piece of food.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And right.
What do we have next?
We have, I think our penultimate.
Yes.
penultimate.
Before we get to something else,
which will happen at the end,
we will do a tier list.
We did a tier list.
I think a couple of weeks ago.
It was last week.
It was the world's worst drivers.
Yeah.
And that was actually pretty poor list.
Pretty annoyed about how that came out.
But this week, games of the game,
we will be speaking about and ranking the
worst modifications, I believe.
Better set your modifications.
Okay, sure.
So I've gone through and I've made a list of
what I think and what I think you think are
the worst vision modifications.
Where does stretchy tyres and rusted arches
come on that?
And that's blue paint bike.
I was teasing Ben about what's on his list.
Have you got this?
He went, yeah.
So visual
mods only.
So like pops and bangs.
I just had pops and bangs,
but then you decide you wanted visuals.
Pops and bangs,
sorry.
Speak of stage, you decided you were.
I heard it.
I mugged on ones earlier and you said.
So that could be next week.
It could be short next year.
We don't know.
I have 13.
That's not helpful for a top 10,
if I'm honest.
Can I be top 13?
So we're going to top 13.
Why not?
And we are going to, you're going to give
them to us and we will rank them blind.
We'll do 10.
Great.
I'm happy with 13.
All right, we'll do 13.
This is what TDC is all the way,
by the way.
It's just a shadow.
Top 13, worst modifications.
Blind ranking.
Yes.
So where this works, listeners is that if
they put in, if I say, Will's mods,
something, I don't know, something,
a mod they're like, and they say number one,
that's my worst mod.
That's locked in.
Nothing can go.
If something worse than that comes up,
tough.
Hey, that's where C where it goes.
Right, let's start.
F1, Rainlight.
Ooh, tough.
Really not a
50:09 Worst Car Modifications Tier List
fan.
Difficult to rate something or something.
You've got one through 13 is free.
But realistically, not, there's going to be
some worse ones.
So I'm thinking as a mod.
Do you know what I think maybe?
I think this maybe starts at like a six
because it's middle of the road,
then we can gauge the rest of them from worse
or better than that.
Seven is like, gives us some space.
It's not halfway because we can't actually
physically do halfway.
Ben's maybe stupid list.
Right, let's do that then.
Number seven.
Number seven is F1 rain light.
Well, Ben just texted on his phone,
isn't he?
And our next one.
Could we get the next one so we can think
about it while you message, please?
Okay, the next one is going to be wheels,
but no lows.
So you're putting art market wheels in your
car, but you're not lowering it,
you're keeping the standard fitment.
You know what, it really upsets me.
It upsets me, but I think that you have to
identify cause and what they mean by it.
Okay.
Could they only afford the wheels at the time
being and next month means they're getting those?
That's fine, it doesn't matter.
Or have you put the wheels on and you go,
that's fine.
You just seen
the car.
For that reason, I think it's possibly ranks low.
Wait, what does it mean?
It ranks, it's not that, it's relatively
inoffensive, but it depends on your intent.
See to me, it's more, is it annoying,
more annoying than rain?
What if they, you see someone's delicious set
of T37s on their car, but it hasn't quite got
round to lowering it.
But that's my biggest issue,
because you were so close, you had
everything, but you don't know that next week.
You do not know that next week,
Lowe's.
But how do you know that?
But this is the thing, you're making assumptions here.
And
that makes an ask that a me and you?
No, not ask ask, but
sure.
Assume.
Right, I want to say, I want to go in at five.
Ooh, I would have put in lower,
but I would be happy to meet you at five.
I think it's harsh on some, but I think there
are many that deserve five or more.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next one on the list, we've got big stance camber.
We're talking we're like 10 degrees of camber.
All right, you know what?
This ranks highly for me.
I hear it.
I can't.
I know everyone was saying it is in respect
to all builds and all of that.
If our tastes were all the same,
it'd be boring.
That looks like ass.
Like a one you are destroying your car drives
like us, like actual feces.
Your car drives like she eat and it looks
like ass.
And you're going through tires at a rate of knots.
What are you just swapping round,
mate?
What's cool here?
You got the other inside of the tire for you.
I don't get it.
Three or four.
Because we got to leave one or two,
there's going to be something where I could go to.
Should we say three?
I'd be willing to say three.
If I'm four, then you're two.
Three.
But just know if it's you, I could easily see
you at one or two.
Okay.
Especially if things with my friends.
Especially if it's not solid,
it's static.
It's static, yeah, but it's no air ride.
Why would you do that?
It's like I'm saying,
you know what?
You're an idiot because you walk by bending
your knees.
I'm walking straight, I'm walking straight
leg and there's no carton in there at all.
Straight up smashing bone on bone.
Fantastic.
But not because they've had any sort of medical issue.
They've just gone.
I think it's cooler.
I think it's better.
All right.
Bent legger.
More like you straight legger.
It's just stupid.
You're a stupid, stupid trend and it needs to do that.
I don't see it very often though.
No, I'm not saying that.
Disappearing more and more.
Thankfully,
because they can't make it.
So that's three, Ben, we've locked in.
Next up, chameleon tint.
Annoying, but not that high up for me.
It's normally joined by other mods.
When I'm thinking about it, it has to hover
around the F1 line.
Do you know what?
I'm going to say something.
I think a chameleon tint is an accoutrement.
It's an addition to a bad build anyway.
A whole car can't be made bad by a chameleon
tint, if that makes sense.
It's not nice looking, but it's something
that adds on to an already terrible car.
You know, a car with a lot of stance plus
chameleon tint as a multiplier.
That's a 2x multiplier.
But on his own, just a bit annoying.
Double points.
I'm saying, I will go in it.
10 on that, eight, nine.
Okay, nine.
Nine in the middle of nine.
Let's run that.
Ben, I have no idea what numbers we have left.
I'll tell you now.
This is why 13 was not great.
Well, it's my list.
We've got what, 10 left still.
So we're now into the top 10.
I think we've done like four.
No, you've got nine left.
You've done four.
So we've got right now, one clear,
two clear, three big stance camber.
We've got four clear, five wheels,
no lows, six clear, seven F1 rain light,
eight clear, chameleon tint and nine,
and then 10 left.
12 and 12 13.
Okay, we've got the top, top available and the bottom.
Right.
So next up is lows, but no wheels.
It's a grip.
Now, less offensive.
What do you mean?
So we've lowered the car, but some standard
wheels, standard fitment.
Okay, standard fitment.
Standard wheels.
That's important.
So it's, well, it's everything but your
actual physical coil and spring.
What does that mean?
No, it has coil and spring.
It has coil others, but nothing else.
Right.
So you bring it down, you can't bring it out
with a spacer.
Less offensive.
It's an opportunity is missed,
but nowhere near as bad as wheels,
but without the right fitment.
I think it could look worse.
It can because I think a car that's a
standard ride height and a fitment hasn't been sorted.
It's standard.
It is what it is.
This is somewhat vanilla.
If you decided to lower it.
Now, again, some people will say the drivers
among you will say, I have learned the sense
of gravity and I fitted a set of racing shock
absorbers so I can go around corners faster.
And I have appreciated the fact that adding a
space will ruin my geometry and will mean
I'll be tramlining all over the road.
That will be that, those people in some cases.
But also, it looks like ass.
If you lower it, a load, like your tucking
wheel on a standard fitment,
like sunken wheel with standard wheels,
then that's quite offensive.
But on the most part, I think it's less
offensive than wheels without suspension.
I'd like to go in at like 11 or 12.
Next up, tinted lights.
It can be front or rear, just any kind of tinted light.
They really do upset me.
I'll be honest, they are very rarely.
Odd is that some manufacturers have a sort of
smoked light and I don't mind it.
But it's like aftermarket window tint,
where you can see the bubbles,
you can see that it's a film.
It's not like having a tinted glass,
where you can see that that was glass
designed to be tinted.
It is a tinted glass.
tinted lights, aftermarket tinted lights are
the whole unit is dark.
It just works less.
It's not doing anything anymore.
You just now have a black box on the back of
your car that glows red vaguely.
There's no point in this.
What you're doing, you've just taken away any
design language that they built into the light.
You've taken away functionality of the light.
You've made it worse.
What's the point in this?
Especially bad when it's a really dark tint
and you've basically made the light black,
where you then have a car that hasn't yet to be unlocked.
I don't understand.
People go for that like full blacked out effect.
And again, you can't see anything either.
Choppers, Whoppers.
What have we got?
Like around six.
We've got anything around there?
Seven is seven three.
We've got no seven has F1 Rainlight.
Five, seven wheels, no low, six is three.
Six is three?
Six feels it's in the same sort of area as an
F1 Rainlight, but it's almost more idiotic.
Yeah.
I think six is nice.
Okay.
Next up.
Sticker slogans.
So when someone puts some stupid,
what is it?
The classic sports mind.
Yeah.
That's not stupid slogan there.
That's pretty cool.
Good branding, really, I think.
Will be available soon.
It's a good one.
They are almost never, and when I say almost,
I mean, certainly always, never funny.
Especially if it's a sarcastic one.
I think it might need to go near the lower end.
Yeah, it's
somewhat harmless.
I'm not a sticker man.
No, I don't like
stickers.
On the line, you have 8, 10,
12 and 13.
Oh, maybe 12.
12.
What's at 11?
What's the lowest?
I need to know
what's around it.
I think it's less offensive.
It is.
It's just a sticker.
It's somewhat reversible.
It also depends.
I fitted one actual sticker that had slowed down.
How was it?
And it was on my fiesta.
I hated them then.
And I came across it and I thought,
that's funny.
It wasn't.
It said, how is my driving?
Go let my mum know.
She worries.
And that was on the back of my fiesta.
It was the only sticker I had on that car.
What about one of the fiesta that was baby on
board brackets?
Me, I'm crying.
Ah, yes.
The famous.
Yes, that was good.
So stuff like that.
That, if that, don't, let's not do that.
Okay.
12.
12.
Next up, our list.
We have got quilted interior mess.
That's a tough one.
That's what you have available to do.
What in the top three?
You've got one, two, four, eight,
10 and 13.
59:44 Quilted Interior Mess
It's feeling four for me.
It's feeling four.
It doesn't feel, I'm not hating it enough to
be at one or two.
No, but it's, we've had a car recently come
in as a good car that has got that.
But every time I see it, it makes me shudder.
It makes me want to start swinging.
I'll be honest, I'm burning it.
It's probably worth some money because of the
car it's in.
There's probably quite sort after I'm burning it.
I'm setting it on fire.
It's never, it's always deemed as like,
it's comfortable, it's just a matte shoved in
a car and you can still see the edges.
You can see where it ends.
You can see where it folds and it moves around.
It's never, ever good.
I'm going to extend myself.
What does that mean then?
I believe, I used to like it.
I believe all, nearly all diamond quilting in
any form of car interior, whether it's from a
factor or not is bad.
I would agree.
I would agree.
If not for, if not for Bentley.
No, because it's bad.
I used to
think the same, but in a, in a continental.
But like there's
some of the continentals where it's just a
little bit more subtle.
I don't mind it.
I hate it.
I used to love it.
I used to diamond stitching used to be like a
Lamborghini stitching.
It's saucy.
It makes me want to vomit.
Diamond stitching is a cheap nightclub.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's horrible.
It's nasty.
What's the headboard, man?
What's that then?
Yeah, with the meme.
The buttons in the headboard.
That, which, oh, a Chesterfield.
I'm not a Chesterfield, the belt.
I've got, I've got that.
Crushed velvet.
Oh, crushed velvet.
That's what that is.
It's crushed velvet and neon's on my,
I'm not a white LEDs on my house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's in at where?
This is a cream podcast, the judging episode.
Four.
I'd say four is a solid.
You could easily be higher because again,
your property, you are harboring enemies of the state.
of other mods.
Yeah.
You're gonna get very upset about this one.
Oh, your car.
Well, that's all this then.
Painted break drums.
It's tough.
You know what it's tough, but it's not that
offensive because- Oh, I thought you'd have
more intense reactions to that.
Do you know what it is?
Okay.
Sometimes they're really bad when they're red.
Like, come on, man, what are you doing?
But do you know what?
A painted break drum is a sign of a novice.
Oh, hold on though.
It has to be like a color.
It can't be like black.
No, no, no, I know.
That's what I mean.
I'm saying, but it's the sign of someone who
hasn't yet understood the goal,
if that makes sense.
It's a first mod.
It's something you do without knowing.
You haven't got budget.
Why it makes sense.
Someone goes, yeah, break house.
You go, I'll make my break for it then.
So it's, you know what I mean?
It's a little bit innocent.
Yeah.
There's no older choppers doing this.
Who's going, if there aren't,
it's bad, but it's unlikely.
It's unlikely.
I will, I will let it off lightly.
What have we got on the, I put it at the,
I'll let it prop the table up.
Wow.
You're eight, 10 and 13.
13 feels right now.
I thought you'd have a much more intense rate than that.
It's not great to see.
It doesn't film in with range,
but I'm seeing a quilted floor mat.
Okay.
Next one.
Stretch tires.
Again, it kind of, it falls in twined with
the stance geeks.
But, but then you've got, do you know what?
I'm, let's all be honest here.
Let's all
1:02:51 Stretch Tires Debate
have, you know, Ben smile.
I could see it.
It actually upsets me more on your car than
it does on a stance car.
Because on a stance car, it has a a function,
the function is to get the widest possible,
possible wheels and then stretch your tires
in so it still fits under the arch.
But when you have a car that is at a height
that it could have chunky tires,
it's worse.
Who would do that?
But yours was not done out of,
out of, Fennham, out of, out of,
Deliberosity.
No, it was a necessity.
It was done out of, oh, these are actually
quite stretch tires and I didn't mean that.
And I will, I will be changing it.
Exactly.
Because it upsets me great.
I will suck.
Now this is going to go against everything I
said about stance cars, but there is a level.
There is a point you pass.
Perhaps it's a camber setting.
Perhaps there is a, there is a degree at
which when you go past and I go,
no, no.
Seven and a half that will help you.
I have no interest.
Seven and a half degrees, possibly.
But where, you know, when someone,
especially if it's on air or even maybe if it
is static and it sits just right on the wheel
and it's stretched, I can go,
you know what, a level of craftsmanship or
more, or our time and effort and research and
attempting things has got into this.
So I can appreciate it.
I would never do it to my car because I don't understand.
I don't understand why.
But I can say that someone didn't just buy
the wheels and put them on the car.
And didn't just buy wheels and buy suspension
and put them on the car.
There was some work that had to go into it.
So I can understand that.
But also, some stretches are just dumb.
Yeah, they really are bad.
When you see some tire shops,
like, well, people trying to fit them with a
tire machine.
Wow, well, we were.
Ben, what have you got left?
One, four, eight, ten?
Hold on.
Feels like a few, eight, ten.
Sorry, one, one, two, eight,
ten.
I think it's somewhere in reality between two
and eight, but we can't do that famously at the point.
So I think we go eight.
Eight's fired by me.
So we've got one, two and ten left.
One, two and ten remaining.
Oof.
It's tough one.
What could come next?
We've got a fake carbon fiber.
You know what?
I don't know if it can be one for me,
but two, it could be.
It could also be ten.
Because it also feels like that it's,
I can't afford it.
My budget's low, but I like carbon.
So I'm going to make that mistake at a young
youthful age.
It's true.
It's trying because it could be tasteful design.
Yeah, true.
No, I don't know what you've got to come.
Also, there are levels.
There are levels to fake carbon because there
are ones like we took off the M140i,
which have the weave is literally,
it's all over the shop.
And there are ones that just kind of look
vaguely like actual carbon, but aren't.
Now, when you say fake carbon,
do you?
I've never done it in there.
That would count.
Yeah, that's bad.
Because I've done it.
You did it.
But I'd never do it again.
But as a younger, as a young job,
I went, well, I've got trims in my car,
haven't I?
So I have to wrap them in carbon,
wouldn't I?
It's also, it's not me.
It's not me.
But if I was to advise you, I would
personally say that if you're going to--
No, no, no, you can't do this.
You can't do this.
You can't do this.
No, you have to let us make our mistakes,
Ben.
Let lay land, lay land.
But you were talking about people like paying
break drums is being like an obvious mistake.
Of course.
You're putting that low then it's sort of a low sign.
One, two and 10.
It's a big gamble.
I'm willing to do it if you want to do it.
Lock it in 10, Ben.
On it.
So burn and two.
We have the hope that these are some ruffians.
Remaining the final two.
What?
Fake vents.
It's a good, it's tough, that's quite tough.
But you know what, I'm quite happy with that.
It does feel similar to the carbon thing.
Yeah, but it is, I've never felt the need to do it.
Vents are, vents are you are choosing,
there's no innocence in that.
There are.
I want to make this look bad.
I'm making a judgement.
Yeah, I am making a judgement.
I'm seeing that.
Do you know what, sometimes maybe it's a Ford
thing, a Rofoxel thing, where you actually
cut it into the bonnet and you are doing it for function.
You're doing it because everyone else is
doing it and because you think it looks cool.
If you have to stock it on.
Yeah, full stick on it.
It's tough.
In the interests of, I think this is possibly
exactly how the last list went is that we
left one to throw last.
Tough.
Perhaps on the next one, we'll just pick one first.
No, no, straight away, whatever it is.
So, are we locking in at two?
I think, you know what, we can only find out.
Oh, we put that one at one.
All right, let's do it and we live with regret.
Let's let the game.
Fake vents, the number one worst modification
you could ever make.
And do you know what, if someone said that to
me, I'd go, yeah, potentially,
that could be potentially bad.
That means the final one that you didn't know about.
What is it?
Wind deflectors.
Now, you know what?
Now, here's the thing.
Now, here's the thing.
I think this is played out perfectly.
Because for me, it could be one,
but realistically, most people,
actually, the majority of people quite like
them for some reason.
You've had wind deflectors.
So I think it's perfect that this fits too.
It's not the worst, but in our company,
it's bad.
Less offensive than a fake vent.
I'm still making some judgment,
but I'll go, do you know what,
I've been there.
I love, I hate them.
with just such all my heart and soul.
I think people's argument is that,
and I can kind of get it from using them,
that you can have the window open when it's
ever so slightly raining.
You can do that anyway.
Here's something for you.
Don't do that.
Have your window closed when it's raining.
Have your heating system in your car work,
so that you do not need your window open when
it is raining.
Do you in your house open your windows when it's raining?
Do you just open the lid to your bin so it
just gets wet in there?
What are you doing?
Don't do that.
Stop doing that.
And it looks shit.
it.
So your final list is this.
Number 13, painted brake drums.
Number 12, sticker slogans.
Number 11, lows with no wheels.
10, fake carbon fiber, 9, chameleon tint,
8, stretch tires, 7, F1 rain light,
6, tinted lights, 5, wheels,
no lows, 4 quilted mats, 3, big stance camber
and 2, wind deflectors and finally 1,
fake vents.
I've done well.
and lows and lows up wheels could probably be
closer together.
I think they're a little bit too far either
end of the spectrum, but I'm pretty happy with that.
I'm pretty proud of you guys.
I was better than the last one.
Yes.
I was more well thought out.
'Cause we're still.
We don't quite.
No, they'll inevitably be mods that we've missed out.
Sure.
Mainly because Ben came up that list,
but I also better.
Good list.
Thanks.
Good stuff, Ben.
And it's really lovely to know that you came
up with a complete on your own.
Yeah.
Despite asking us 15 times, if we could
please tell you which ones.
Anyway, so what's the week?
What's one of the week?
What's my one?
Is it?
There's one, everyone knows what that one is.
We don't need to talk about it.
Was it?
It's the again.
(speaking in foreign language)
But other than that, which is obviously always.
But you know what?
A 159 with a twist.
A 159 that doesn't exist.
I want the 159 that should have always been.
She's a V6 or a V8.
A 159 with a Maserati V8.
Would really tackle my pickle.
Would really would be a stupendous.
DCT?
I was hoping to have a gated manual.
Would be stupendous or.
Yeah.
What if we were to cut the floor pan of like
a quadruport A or a Gran Turismo might be closer.
And then put the body of the 159 over it.
(laughs)
We need to have a Gran Turismo though,
and a quadruport A.
We don't have that, we don't have that.
We don't have one of those.
Any of those, do we?
No, no.
Yeah, 149.
But also still lingering in the background,
because I'm still in a car limbo at the
moment, is Mark on RS's.
Lovely.
Any other form of Ford?
I haven't told you this, this morning when I
was on the way into the unit,
I was following a, don't know what the blue is.
A blue.
Imperial blue, the darker blue.
Yep.
Focus RS, but Mark II, Mark II.
I'm over four months.
I was like, I'm driving and I was like,
that's Will.
Will was bought on you daily,
and then the guy was going so slow,
I thought, that's not Will.
(laughs)
He was doing 70 miles, man.
Yeah, he's doing 70 in a 60,
I thought that's amazing.
I thought you just bought yourself on you daily,
so.
But for the some variety, still the little,
like an escort or something,
and also car would be lovely.
Just anything really at this point.
And also perhaps him.
Well, he was, again, he exists always,
I can't ever.
One day, it will be here, maybe.
One day.
Well, oh, Ben's bought a mercy lock.
I bought a mercy lock.
No.
I had a very enlightening experience at
Supercar Driver last week, attracted to
Edwin, and I have decided something.
Yes, I think we did talk about this last episode.
No, we didn't, we went on, we were going to
come back to it, we didn't come back to it.
Oh, okay, okay.
I told you, we were getting too off topic.
Retention, isn't it?
Yes, our attention for a week.
One week.
Coming.
Next week.
My dream car has changed.
Okay, so it's no longer.
I don't change the stand.
I change, it's not changed.
It's not changed.
It doesn't work like that.
It's, it's.
This is the dream car I'm on.
No, it doesn't dream.
It's been confirmed.
Okay.
I've decided.
Who confirmed it?
Is it like a third party source?
I mean, we're having a very helpful conversation.
I've been thinking about, I've been telling a
lot of people.
So now it is, I have actually.
Random people.
So, what conversation do we have?
I said to you, 'cause you pitched it better
than I did.
I said, wait, hold on, I might need to think about this.
We were discussing, Edwin said to me,
basically, my dream car, oh,
oh my car, would be a manual.
Oh, that's it, I remembered it.
Aston Martin V12, aren't you?
Yeah, I said to Ben, you buy your Aston
Martin V12, you get the money for it,
you get it together.
Yeah, but you realize at this point in your
life, that's it, you've now got other
commitments, you're probably gonna be buying
a house, you've got kids, all that sort of
stuff, the billions of gone,
they've been taken by the government and by
you, Les Cameron's own case.
That's not happening.
So, the V12 vintage is the last big car
you're ever gonna buy.
Which would be good.
Not to be ungrateful, but that would be what
you would end on.
Yes.
Would there be a part of you that was
disappointed that you didn't make it onto an
event at all?
Yes.
And you were upset.
I was upset, I thought about it,
and it hit me when you said that answer.
Now you've got an event at all,
it's the final big purchase you ever make.
Could you die knowing that that was the last
big car you had?
Absolutely.
And there it is.
Yeah.
So that's it.
'Cause the V12 vintage comes in with the
thing I wanna do with the tunnel,
I wanna wear a suit, I don't know why.
Always in suit, always in suit.
But when you see one, when you see a V12
vintage, does it make you, it does.
Does it make you feel like a very small boy?
1:13:25 Edwin's Dream Car Decision
No.
It makes me feel excited.
Okay.
But in a grown up way.
Yes.
It makes you go bloody hell,
that's nasty.
Oh, lovely car.
A frightful amount of road tax on that.
I'd certainly buy one of those if I had the money.
No, but the only store, it makes me,
it makes me feel like a giggly little guy again.
There it is.
And I thought, at that moment,
I was like, you know what, that is the guy.
And it's been, it was the first car I ever liked.
Yes.
It was the car that I will always stare at.
There was one of food and fuel last year.
Mm.
And I just couldn't stop looking at it.
Shout out, shout out Tom, shout out Horsepower Hunters.
And so I've decided that's my one of the life.
I heard.
He said so.
And we can't get an age.
30.
Just in general.
Come on.
They'll be on the depreciation curve possibly.
I think by 35, I'd like one.
35, that's your goal.
The big A, doors going up on Ben's driver.
And it's going to be, there are two specs.
Well, this was the, I think the way that you
know that it's real is that I said to Ben,
what if it was a normal event at all?
Would you care if it was not an SV?
And he went, no, I said, what if it was an SV?
And it wasn't an SV J?
And he went, I don't care.
I would like an SV J of course,
but of course, but actually a LP 700,
the early boys, or a white one.
A white one?
A white one, a white one.
There's not one I was expecting.
No, a white one with Roadster wheels.
Yeah.
Okay, with very subtle yellow calipers.
I've seen that.
And I thought, that is great.
Or I would actually like, if it was a
Roadster, a muted launch spec.
The Roadster.
Which isn't very Lamborghini,
it's a little--
It's a baby blue metallic with the blue.
Bazie cream interior.
Which isn't very Lamborghini,
it's not very loud.
But I like that.
No, but it is very Lamborghini.
Oh, okay.
It's really Lamborghini Roadster.
So there's your, that's early,
early event at all.
But that's the wheels.
But that's got the wheel.
I will say, I know that the SV and the SVJ,
they're gonna be worth more money,
they're more special, they're faster,
they're more power.
But I actually think the shape without wing,
that event door silhouette, as it sits,
like look at that.
Look at that, that's--
You had a wing twist, I think it interrupts a lot.
I agreed.
That shape is, wow.
It is very nice.
More, and I was not, I was not always a
Lamborghini man, well I was never a
Lamborghini man, other than the Mercilago.
The Mercilago for me was the one exception to me.
But I remember when the event all came out,
I had a wallpaper of a viola,
a filia, a ventille for a long time,
early one, six, just 700, and oh.
The shape of it, the shape of it is unmatched.
I think they will be worth one day,
a lot and a lot of money, because Mercilago
is special to quite a small demographic
people, and they're now quite in.
They're quite, you know, influencer to be
like, oh, I love the Mercilago.
But everyone loves an event at all.
But this is the last non-hybrid V12.
Obviously, it's not manual, which is why
they're not so special.
But these, because it is non-hybrid,
it's like the last, the last real kind of big
V12, Lamborghini.
It's just there.
There are older ones that I think are better,
but-- Sorry, this was-- You first.
I can't-- oh, well, it's a 200 pixel thing,
but look at that.
is cool.
That's such a good color.
I've sent you on-- Oh, go on the cream
podcast chat on Slack.
It was a real life.
I saw the other day I liked it,
or I don't know who made it.
Sorry, I can't give you a credit.
But-- Just do it.
I took a screenshot of it, which I have just
sent to you, which that is--
If I had a normal one, it's this spec.
If I had a roadster, it's the spec you just saw.
And if you're listening, imagine an event
store in two different colors.
That is quite special.
Those wheels change the game.
They really do.
Also, I'm not a big fan of colored calipers,
but yellow calipers on that.
That's big for me, absolutely.
You are on that UAE spec.
You're on the device.
I don't care.
That's fantastic.
You need, yeah.
To get a white eventador, unfortunately,
what comes with it is a red interior.
And that's happening.
You don't get a choice in that matter.
It's coming with tints all around.
I might have a roaster in the silvery blue
with the tan interior.
So, roaster, it's one of the few times I will accept it.
It's not really convertible to be fair,
but something where the roof comes off.
I would accept it.
We agreed it's a target.
It is.
It's a little thin section of roof that comes
off between your front windscreen and your rear.
And do you know what?
It's not for feeling the wind in your hair.
It's for the noise.
It's for the sounds.
That with big.
But you are also, you want the high pitch,
the gintani speck.
But it can be done.
I like the-- It can be done.
I like the-- It's not possible.
I was doing research seven nights.
Ooh.
I was trying to find out what--
For your event at all.
You know every SVJ has the flames.
I'm not talking like a pop in a bang.
We're talking like it spits a fireball for three seconds.
I found out what that is.
I can't remember it, but I did find it.
I've saved it on my phone.
You know what?
This is why you come to the Cream Podcast
because we might have information.
I've done some research.
And what I was is, it's beyond me.
But there's many ways you can do it,
but there is like one kit that everyone has,
which is the one you always saw Instagram
with them flying past.
Yes.
And I can't remember it now,
which is great.
Well, Gintani.
No, it's not Gintani.
It's a different brand.
Oh, OK.
But it's something to do with--
It gets rid of the valve, so it has--
Oh, valve flow.
No.
Because they have valves from factory,
but part of it, the reason it flames so
easily is because when you put like a Gintani
on it, effectively, when you go and course
them in the track mode, it opens the valves,
OK?
OK.
So when you put these exhausts on,
they delete the valves, and then you are
basically in normal driving mode,
but it always has coarser exhausts.
Big flame again.
You get a bit of a lot of heat in there.
So I can't remember what the look of the kit
is called, but it's like 20 rounds.
So you've got that on all of that.
You've got that on all of that.
I don't understand the values of exhausts on supercars.
It's funny.
It's like, maybe they are slightly more
advanced because there's, you know,
there's more to get round.
But there's always less pipe.
Yeah, there's less pipe.
So I was like, we were at Unknown Place
recently, and they were talking about,
I think it was F50 exhaust.
And F50 exhaust, like a standard one.
You're talking in excess of 50,000 pounds.
He said, the guy, this guy was just,
to now have this tubie exhaust for,
he was either 17 or 27,000 dollars.
And he was like, it's an amazing deal.
He got on that.
That's crazy.
Sorry.
Why are we not just cutting back boxes out of things?
One that I found, when they have,
on the website, just a photo of the whole
exhaust, it's like three feet of just pipe,
in like a relatively.
Rich can do it.
Rich could do it.
That's what I mean.
I'm like, should he just take it and see if I
can chop the event at all for Rich?
It's interesting, but yeah.
Let's see if you can recreate it.
We just need someone event at all.
He's willing to let it be chopped up.
Also, SVJ exhaust is higher,
slightly, so they seem to be at the bottom.
Possibly, it's slightly shorter,
I don't know.
Possibly like our 600 LTs.
They literally have the amount of pipe they
have is very small.
Well, same.
Massive, really.
I haven't seen the ones of a spit.
You can get flames from events still quite easily.
It's bits of flame, but I'm talking like it's
a three second long, almost flame kits back.
I like the flames where it's not like a liftoff flame.
1:20:13 Supercar Exhaust Flames
It's when you're on the throttle way.
It does need for speed, nitrous spec flame.
Which you can get from which McLarens do as well.
Again, people will say that you're childish,
but if a car shoots flame, organically,
it doesn't have a spark plug in it or
something, I'm about it.
I'm hearing it.
I like what you're doing.
I love your work.
If you can get, so it's the SVJ and the
events, the ultimate, whether it's the final
one, both have that mid-mounted exhaust on the rear.
And only those ones would do the big,
big flames.
The rest you'd get a flame from Quaysley.
Yeah.
But the one you're talking about,
where you just accelerate and it goes,
you can get from a normal event.
Yeah, just normal event at all going hard.
There is a, I have a video of one doing the classic.
Why is that cool?
Flames.
Yeah, why is that just too?
I find it funny because imagine,
is a regular person seeing that come past you.
You would think that the world did it.
Did the video you showed me the other day?
Yeah.
Which was literally a 97 foot flame coming
out of the back of the vent store.
If you were Doris going down the road,
you would have heart failure.
It's a dude, people have probably seen it
because it's got millions of views,
but it's a guy who pulls up in a tunnel
alongside and lifts off throat on the same
time and it just goes, it just stops.
I'm going to say, imagine, just being on your
way to work and seeing that,
mental.
I mean, it's like a badge of honor.
Anyone who's had a car that can shoot a flame.
And you reach a new level.
Yeah, it does.
In your own life where you go,
I have had a car or a now owner car that can
shoot a flame, basically on demand.
I figured out how to do it.
And it doesn't matter how shit the car is.
Yeah.
If it spits flames, you're cooler than the
person that doesn't spit flames.
This is the classic video which is hog with
the early car.
Just doing ultimate, like that's fighter jet.
Yeah.
That's going to outer space.
A car accelerating with blue flames firing
out the exhaust.
I'm sort of psychological reason why that's
cool to everyone.
Only thing with the eventador,
it's not one that's the exhaust,
is it doesn't have that, it doesn't have the wing thing.
The bad wings.
The events, they have it, but they don't,
I think they missed out on that.
Yeah.
Because that was an unbelievable design thing
on the Mercilago and the eventador,
it was like, there's a couple of flaps.
A couple of flaps that you won't really
notice as much, whereas the Mercilago,
it was like, when they were up,
I'm angry out here.
Will knows about this, but my onto the week
might be happening.
Ooh.
What is it, Ben?
What's my want with the week?
It's always happening.
Is it a Ferrari?
No, no, no.
That's two more pants.
No, no, no, no, no.
What's the other one of the week?
The one that he's beat, he's come and gone,
but he's always there.
It isn't gonna.
He's in English, which is rough,
because I've already bought a TVR,
which means two English cars,
not a good way to, I don't know what to tell you.
What's your name?
Ben, come on now.
What's the car that suits me more than any
other car on Earth?
Ben's going, Volkswagen Beetle?
Car is it?
Ben, you know this.
What car?
English?
Yeah.
Oh, a Range Rover classic, is it happening?
Yeah, a perfect spec one has come up sale
just a few minutes away from my mate,
Will of Estes Customs, who is a Land Rover
and Range Rover specialist.
He's going tomorrow morning to have a look at
it, so we will find out it's probably gonna
be a rule next week if it's not happening.
You didn't tell me this?
No, I didn't, it would have an on the weekend.
Wow.
So he's gonna go have a look at it tomorrow.
Sneaky boys.
And if it's good.
We can't trust Edwin anymore.
No, I'm doing all sorts of sneaky stuff.
You're gonna go next week and go.
But it is.
I'm the names Klinkenberg.
It is a black hard dash, so
not soft dash, on factory air suspension,
quite rain, quite
sore, tough.
No, no, it's pretty simple that system.
And
black interior with a bit of a project.
So, oh, I'm so
excited.
That's my one.
That's my one.
Will I get to
work challenge?
Yeah, I'm too enamored by the TBR to want
anything else at the moment.
So that's the only thing I was thinking of,
woke up Saturday morning, bang,
Facebook marketplace, first scroll of the
morning, scroll.
And there it was.
So, I think we're getting a little bit delirious.
We're going to choose this moment to wrap up,
Ben's scared, because the camera's going to turn off.
Thank you very much for listening to this
episode of the Cream podcast.
We will see you next week with updates,
galore.
Oh, yes.
Cream, Ben.
I'm getting money to door.
Ben's buying an event.
Event.
Sorry, I thrived.
A door.