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Transcript

  • Edwin
  • Will
  • Ben

0:00 Introduction and Personal Updates

You're an idiot because you walk by bending your knees.

I'm walking straight.

I'm walking straight leg and there's no

cutting in there at all.

We're not, we're not going to start any fights.

Hold on.

We're not going to eat all your food.

We're going to be very quiet.

I will.

I am.

Everything.

Quail, quail, quail, quail, quail,

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quail.

Hello and welcome back to the 77th podcast

episode of Cars Rule Everything Around Me.

You thought I was going to trip,

but I didn't.

I stumbled with myself Edwin,

William to my left and Benjamin behind the behind.

At the beginning of

every podcast, we answer the question to Cars

Rule or Ruin

everything around us this week.

William.

Ah, a mixed bag I have for thee.

We know something that you guys don't know yet.

It's been sold and that is very sadly the,

you know, clear.

Can't believe it.

It was here for a day.

It was, yes.

It was here for one day.

We went out to lunch once.

I took it home once.

Yeah.

And that was it.

I'm a little bit sad, but

it's for a greater good overall.

And I thought, you know what,

I'm not really getting any use out of it at the moment.

It's currently with John at Cormoran and he

caught wind of the fact that I might sell.

And he said, would you, would you like to

sell that to me?

He said, how much that?

Yeah.

And then that sort of accent.

And I sold to him for what I think was quite

a good price.

He's helped me out quite a bit with that car.

And he now knows that car quite well.

Almost too well now.

He doesn't, he's not, it's kind of been the

bane of his life.

But now it is his car.

It all happened quite quickly,

actually.

It was like Friday evening or Saturday and

basically it was sold by Sunday.

I can't believe I had it in the car still with him.

It's a very weird sale because it's like it

wasn't with me.

He said, I have the car.

Can I buy it?

Yes, you can buy it.

You have no closure.

No.

You never got to say goodbye.

No, crazy.

No, I went for a good old drive in it,

used it a fair bit and that's it.

But also, got it back on the road and running

and now it works as it should.

It's done a few hundred miles now,

no starter motor issue.

I'm not happy.

I haven't mentioned this yet about this car

because you very casually came into the day

and told us you sold it.

Now...

Yeah, I forgot.

Remember a bet we had?

Yeah.

What you said you were, I said you wouldn't buy one?

Oh, sorry.

Did I miss out in terms of conditions?

Yeah, but it kind of feels a little bit like,

you know, it feels a little bit scamming that

you just bought it for a couple of weeks.

No, do you think buying an S2000 and putting

it in storage and letting it cross away to the point?

That's interesting, isn't it?

Now, the bet was not that he would keep it forever.

I know it just feels like...

I'm not saying...

Do you think he bought it simply?

Do you think he spent multiple thousands of

pounds just to simply...

I mean, we do know this man.

When a bet.

And we do know this man, he would.

But, no, I thought...

I'm not saying you don't even think wrong.

I'm just saying that it feels a little bit like...

It feels a bit...

I'll get what you're saying,

but you're going to have to suck out.

Also, do you know what Ben, that means?

What that means?

A space in the team has opened up Team Clio,

we know that there can only ever be two,

there may not be three.

So Ben, feel free.

I do feel free.

You never know because it's waiting for me.

At any moment, I could buy one.

At any moment, I could be back.

If things don't pan out the way,

you know, Will's hoping, I might buy like a hundred.

I will want one.

So that is now gone.

Basically, I will not see that.

Well, I might see it again, but not in my ownership.

Mégane, as you know, is back,

still good.

He's behind us.

Still working, it's right behind us.

The Range Rover, I'm yet to get fixed.

That's getting fixed next week,

I hope.

And then it will get sold.

And then, I only really lose one more car.

Well, I don't have any other cars now.

I'm unconfirmed.

Unconfirmed.

There has been a large movement in the garage

of me in the tides.

But unconfirmed yet.

So there will be news on that mixed feelings.

Creamers also have been on the such for a new

daily, because again, I've kind of resigned

to myself to the fact that I think the Range

Rover will go the CV Joint Exploding has been

almost a final nail in its quite large coffin.

Otherwise, a really trouble free coffin.

4:11 Range Rover CV Joint Issues

Otherwise, a really trouble free car.

And I've done 30,000 miles in it.

But after a while, the cost does get a little bit.

Even if it works, you're still getting 20 to 25 MPG.

It still costs well over, even for me,

as an old man with a clean license,

over a grande year to ensure a large number.

You need a tire.

It's going to be expensive.

So I would like to end that and put that

money into fun cars.

Yes.

That would be nice because you don't mind

spending that on a lovely blue sky weekend car.

A yellow sky.

You know, well, maybe you can't see the sky.

And so I've been looking at dailies and I

haven't come to a decision, but there's a vibe.

But there's a vibe and it's an Italian vibe.

And they've been looking at one five nine

second, Lamborghini glass.

I thought I go with the vert.

Yeah, that one.

But I've been looking at one five nine's

because I think they've, I think I do.

So good.

So cool.

I've been trying, I've been looking at like,

Prasats and I'm very sorry to say it like,

golfs and even like Fiesta's and Folks is,

I can't bring myself to do it.

They're economically work and they're cheap

to fix and they're cheap to run,

but I can't do it.

But it's something like a one five nine just feels.

Hey, you're speaking to the wrong person.

Ben famously hates them.

You hate the one five.

I forgot, but do you not remember this?

This is from early podcast.

Oh, even Ben, I don't remember now.

I don't know what car it is.

you're picturing a sec.

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Ben, here you go.

So, of an Alfa Romeo 159, don't tell me that

is not one of the best looking modern cars.

I know it's modern, I'm saying we're talking

about a 17 year old car, basically,

at this stage.

Almost 20, the old ones.

I know what this is now.

I like the rear is nice, the interior is

nice, the front, I just, doesn't do it for me.

I don't like those headlights.

The best front ends of your time.

I don't think Alfa have made a better looking car since.

Agreed, fully agreed.

I like the Julia looks great and stuff,

but there's, it isn't that.

You know what, the Julia could be any car.

If you took the front, if you took the front

nose, the Alfa...

Scabetto?

Is that what it's called?

I should know that and I don't.

But if you took that off, it could be any

car, could be an N3, it could be this one.

But when you look at the design of this,

like the inset lights, and then the like

overhanging bonnet is so perfectly alpha,

it's so good.

I used to want one many, many moons ago and I

ended up having a Brere when I was like 19.

To be fair,

7:21 Alfa Romeo 159 Discussion

it was actually a bit of a letdown.

It was kind of, as a 19 year old with V6,

it was cool, but it was not a great car at all.

But now I want to one five nine either,

probably be a diesel, just because of economy

and what such, but that's a T.I.

one, at least that's the T.I.

wheels.

It's got a really cool wheels.

I don't mind red, but there you can get them

in black on tan, Benjamin.

That would be a good one.

That would be a best spec.

And it all feels they've got like alpha

stitched into their head rest.

It just feels a little bit more,

not necessarily premium.

Special.

It's a bit more Italian.

Yeah, it's a bit more, a little something.

But when you compare that side by side to an E-93 series.

Yeah, just rep my bill.

There's just something, like the three series

is just a three series.

There's nothing to make you to make you stir

to use the James May coin as.

Yeah, when I was looking at them before,

obviously it was like 13 years ago or

something and they didn't have the same sort

of issues they do now, which is rast.

I was quite surprised, I thought,

okay, I'm on 5.9, they're perfectly good.

And then you have a look online and it's like

subframe corrosion, sill corrosion is a massive thing.

So try to find a clean one, maybe difficult.

I'd quite like a two-litre diesel,

Volkswagen.

That's perfect.

Also they have Volkswagen, not Volkswagen.

They have a Vauxhall GM engine.

And the gearboxes and whatever,

but the gearboxes are massive,

weak point, apart from apparently the two-litre diesel.

That's awful.

Two-litre, ideal world, two-litre diesel,

or wagon, which sport wagon or spaghetti wagon.

I'll take a salon.

But wagon of course.

Color, I like black, I like,

I saw a white one, I was very surprised that

I liked that.

Like a white, even over a tan or a black

leather will do me.

Or I don't know, there's not many colors,

if I'm honest.

I always liked, and I looked when I was,

this would have been just when I met you at

Carthrel, I was looking at 147 standards,

'cause I couldn't ensure anything else,

but they did like a metallic red,

a dark red.

I'm number one red hater.

We're also competition, I think.

It's the 8C color.

Yeah, exactly 8C color.

That on a 159 and 147, that's nice,

I like that.

I think it might either isn't,

I think it's quite rare.

It's very rare.

Someone did it on a braero.

Yeah, it's really rare.

But yeah, just feeling a little alpha,

I mean, there could be a dreadful mistake,

Yeah, you've got to have some form of Italian

in your life.

Yeah, you've already got one.

Sorry, yeah.

You've got to feel that gap,

haven't we?

Ben.

I don't think I have any updates,

I'm going to go rule.

Okay.

Okay.

On this occasion, as you've been driving your

S2000 round.

Well, it will be coming out next week.

Okay, we'll be.

You know what, seeing as the McGahn is back,

we need some sort of for Gazy to keep the

creamers going with.

So like, you know, it switched from McGahn's

coming back every week to I'm getting the

S2000 every week.

Next week, I'll be asking you very nicely.

At some point, if you would take me with the

storage unit at lunch time, and I hope we go

and get my S2000.

I think this time next week,

Ben's gonna go,

No, no, no, there's a reason.

There is not a something shelled before you.

And you will go, I can't.

I can't, how could I?

I can't.

Very supportive.

I can't, why?

Because I can't.

Now, would you, you're gonna start draining it,

then.

You're gonna start driving it home back forth.

No.

What if, so why is it?

How's it coming back from the unit?

I'll leave the golf, I'll swap for a bit.

You'll swap just the food and fuel.

So the golf, we go off sitting in the unit,

you know, we're touching it.

Working out away for the summer.

I'm keeping the miles off it.

More in the car park, but I'll do it.

Okay.

And then I will drive that into the last food

and fuel, and then at some point,

well, once I have space and I've moved and

stuff, I will then bring it home to me.

Nah, surely not.

But I don't, yeah, right now,

I don't have any.

I should put it.

Ben with the Ben with the West 2000.

Why the West 2000?

In deep storage.

Yeah.

In deep rust.

So are you excited?

Yeah.

Okay.

That didn't sound, that sounded not convincing.

Yeah.

Me?

Yeah, sure.

I don't, I don't know, I feel quite,

I feel quite a new tree to it.

I want to get driving it again and then I'll,

I'll just solidify if I'm happy with him.

So you want to put it, like,

you want to put it to the test,

basically?

No, he's, I just want to flashback to the

last week where we were making fun of Ben for

him, you know, Skitto Ben for the shopping,

where he go, "I don't know, I'm ready to tell it."

And then last week he was, "I love it."

That's an amazing car.

And then this week Ben is, "Yes,

you know, I'll see if I like it."

You're at that stage, it's like the,

it's a relationship that you're basically at

the end of it.

One last thing we got, look,

let's have a sit down.

Is there something we can do?

Is there something we can do?

And the S2000, it has to perform.

Is that that?

The S2000 has to do something,

that really gets your hair going.

And then the back end.

The back end just switches around and he

goes, "Right, that's it."

You're like, "You've always been like this."

No, I'm gonna keep it and use it.

Okay.

I like it.

But at the minute, I just have--

Don't like it.

It's not on the front of my mind currently,

I've got other things to think about.

So yeah, it's not, I don't know.

Like what else?

Other thing.

Investment portfolio.

Yeah.

Well, that's the front of the line.

Or you're a state agent.

Business.

That's the one.

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah, no, I'll get that out.

So yeah, it's a rule for me.

Have you successfully managed to buy the

entirety of Bristol yet?

No, I'll try and try, but obviously after you

let stuff--

Well, exactly.

They're a little bit frosty now.

Yeah.

Liquidity's not great until that one becomes back in.

The negotiations have broken down.

I'm going to say it is rule for me.

It's rule for me.

I drove the, I've been driving the TBR a little bit.

I do really love that car.

I know it's, it keeps making me think,

do I have that?

And I go, look at it, I'm like,

I have that, I have that, that's mine.

I took it to take

Will to an undisclosed location to pick Will

up, sorry, 'cause

he didn't have a way home, from an

undisclosed location on

the weekend.

And then I went, oh, let me run into town and

get a haircut.

A part of the car up, a creamer actually came

up to me.

And as you speak to me, someone reversed into

the TBR, which was nice.

How did you do that?

It is green.

Do you know what the guy said to me,

right?

I was actually not too upset because it's

150,000 mile car.

13:07 TBR Minor Incident

It has scratches all over the front anyway,

and it didn't make much of a mark.

But he said, I parked up, got the car,

I was talking to this guy for a few minutes.

This guy just reversed at two mile an hour into it.

And he went, "Oh, are you always there?"

I went, "It is bright green,

if I'm honest."

And he went, "Yeah, fair."

He immediately backed, he was really like,

"Yeah, no, sorry, I was sorry."

He was trying to get out of it.

No, you must have just dashed into it.

He must have reversed into it.

You mean by me, bright green objects right by

the alien UFO.

But no, that's fine.

I've polished it out already.

It was just a little scratch.

'Tis butter scratch.

But other than that, I think I'm happy.

I've driven the Clio Tour every day.

That's working.

Elignment's a little bit rough on that at the moment.

It kind of went from quite a cool little road track car.

I put the coilovers on, haven't aligned it yet.

And now it's kind of just Cadillac in nature.

A little bit soaring at the wheel,

which is nice.

But not much to report.

It hasn't been...

We are doing something this week on Thursday.

I'm quite excited for...

Oh yeah, we are going on an Ollie day.

To buy a car.

Ben's not.

I'm not.

Ben deliberately set this all out so that he

wouldn't come with us.

It was a country.

It was a country.

It was a country.

I don't want to go there.

I know someone from there.

I'm busy that day.

And then we said, "What about this day?"

And he went, "I'm on holiday that day."

So, yeah.

That's for usual, yeah.

I'm joking.

You take one holiday.

Yeah, one like seven week holiday.

Yeah.

Ben is the person who scans the calendar for

like how to maximize those holidays.

So, if Ben's not on the podcast for next,

I don't know, three months, just because he's

taking, he's only taken three days off,

but we won't see him.

Now, I will admit, you take less holiday than

I do,

but I still take, comparatively to most

people, not like

eight days a year maybe.

Well, you're on holiday doing

niche.

Yeah.

You'll go away for two weeks.

Right.

So, that's three.

I don't, I didn't actually give an answer.

Yeah, mine will be a ruin.

Okay.

It will be a ruin.

There's nothing, nothing.

No, no major reason, but it's just,

it's 'cause it's up in the year.

Two rules on a ruin.

Back to the classic.

No more, no more triple rules.

Shall we get on to some anecdotes?

Edwin, you've been here, that the brown barge

goes on holiday.

I've been so excited to hear this.

I saw it coming on Saturday evening.

I'll be honest, it's not exactly what you think.

As we said in previous episodes,

I have to remind ourselves by adding extra

anecdotes privately to work out what it is.

I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna describe to you a car.

Can we explain the brown barge first?

The brown barge is your old BMW E61 Wagon.

It's just an old five series wagon from the 2000s.

Brown in nature and it was, you know,

a car I'd say for sure for a while.

It was brown on brown.

It was brown on beige.

Yeah, which is an interesting aspect.

But it was also, it was triple brown,

because it looked brown.

It looked out.

It looked brown externally.

It had basically a brown interior and then

also it had been parked in the field so it

smelled kind of like brown and a bit of green.

Okay, I'm going to describe to you a car.

It is a 2010 BMW 535i.

That is the N54.

That is the big, big engine.

In an E60 wagon, five series wagon,

but it is an X drive, which is an American

only as a manual.

Wow.

Yeah, manual with an M sport kit.

So he's got the full kit.

Cars and bids, a rival podcast,

you know, podcast to us and one that we have

kind of beef with, a little bit of quiet beef with Mr.

Always good to mention small creators.

With Mr.

Demure himself.

How much did that car sell for?

Dollars, it's America.

Is it low miles?

I'm just going to put you out your misery.

It was $52,500.

What the hell?

Five.

Surely it's low miles.

It's 50,000 miles.

Okay.

So it's low miles ridiculously low,

but not crazy.

Yeah.

And it was a real I was served of Mr.

Demure and his band of merriman talking about this car.

And they're going, dude, this thing's perfect.

Dude, this is the ultimate wagon.

This is the best car on Earth.

I think that's a great deal.

What are we talking about here?

50,000.

What's that in pounds?

Like 30, 30?

Yeah.

For, like, that is mint M5 money.

Yeah.

That's perfect M5 money.

I get it, right?

It's manual and it's an all-drive one is,

but this isn't special.

I know it is and it's rare.

I looked up and apparently there's something

like 50 of these made.

So it's a rare car.

That's because it's a weird combination.

It's a manual four-wheel drive estate car.

But

17:52 BMW E61 Wagon and Brown Barge

they're going in like the ultimate station

wagon, like the ultimate wagon.

That would be an M5.

There's a, I've just described an RS4,

but with a bad engine.

Exactly.

There's RS4s, there's RS6s, there's M5s.

Why are we getting so excited about an engine

that is, hey, look, you can fight about the

M54 until the end of the earth.

They are not great when they're not well looked after.

Oh, they can be.

If they're well looked after,

amazing engines.

But they're not bulletproof.

We can run them like a 2J badly or no oil

when it goes.

Yeah, I'll just deal with it.

Also, it's not special.

I know it's a good engine and you can make

power and it's powerful enough as it is

standard, but it's not like you know,

lost of its kind.

No, it's not like an S8 of V10 or V8.

Replaced by the M55, which was arguably better.

People are going to get upset about that.

But hey, the M55 made it into an actual M-car.

Yeah, one M you can argue.

And then it replaced again by the B58.

Let's stop the argument there.

Yeah.

But more importantly, you spend $50,000 on an

E61 on a brown barge.

A very brown barge.

It's a brown barge.

I know it's black.

I thought we were going for.

No, but unfortunately not the...

Is it a wild?

Is it like a...

This is individual sepia green,

green, McGrunick, and the interior is an

extended half extended half leather half suede,

Majingas.

Black of a black.

Great.

It's just black of a black.

Or maybe it is an individual color,

but it looks to be black of a black.

It's individual black.

Yeah.

It is in.

This is the only one of this exact car

painted in this color.

It's black.

But I just...

That's...

You know what?

It just confused me.

But it confused me all that I was expecting.

I was expecting some reaction of like...

What's going on?

Yeah.

And they were all like, "Yeah,

no, this makes sense."

That's totally normal.

Absolutely.

I paid up.

I'd happily pay that.

Well, which was at the auction.

Because the thing...

I've had it in my hand.

The equivalent is when an American car comes

here, we don't go, "Whoa!"

Yeah.

That's so rare.

We need it.

No, it's still worth £11.

Yeah.

And we go...

Mm-hmm.

That car's ripe for just sitting in the

corner of Facebook Marketplace.

Yeah.

On a slightly overgrown, grassy driveway.

Yeah.

With a sort of grey painted house.

The corner of an American flag visible

somewhere hidden behind perhaps a voxel combo van.

That's also on the drive as well.

What we've got next?

James...

No, not James Bond.

We'll get to James Bond.

Perhaps that was a crafty little retention

thing for you.

Oh, Ben is the new James Bond confirmed.

That's it.

M3 wagon thing.

And for that, I will have to tell you.

Last year, BMW did some form of japery,

some jokery.

They did an April says thing saying...

I've pulled up the wrong photo.

Apologies.

Oh.

I thought you meant that thing.

No, we can briefly mention that afterwards.

This is a race car that BMW are actually

going to race this year.

I've seen this.

I've seen this.

This will be some weeks old by this point,

but we missed it last week.

I heard it here third.

You've possibly even later than first at this stage.

But yeah, last year, there was April Fool's

thing saying...

Why have we made these guys?

I think one was an M2 Dakar,

and then there was an M3 Touring GT3 Evo.

But now they've said, yeah, no,

it was funny, but actually we are making that.

Car is actually going racing,

going racing.

So it's got a ridiculous rear wing.

It's kind of crazy.

It reminds me a little bit of the John Olsen

RS6 many, many moons ago.

Look, wagons have had in previous times a

place in racing.

You've

got 850 BTCC, Volvo.

So why not?

Run it.

Let's see what it

does.

I think it's called P58 Engine.

It's apparently a little bit longer and a bit

wider, I think, than what you'd have usually

had with an M4.

of some width on it.

But what I now want to see, I now want to see

is that without delivery on the street.

So we can have an M3 Touring Touring.

A Touring Touring Touring.

It's a Touring Racing, non-race car,

or it'd be a Touring RS.

Touring Racing Touring.

It's for Touring, but racing.

But like racing.

Not the one you're thinking of.

If you try and put your dog in the boot,

he's going to hit his head on some scaffolding.

He's going to be a little bit upset.

And also news that we weren't expecting

perhaps to speak about, or at least I wasn't,

is that there's a company making an E46 Touring.

I'll be honest, I know nothing about this.

Well, no, that's called BMW.

They make the E46 Touring.

But what a company in the UK has done is they

are now making E46 M3 wagons,

something that you can just buy.

So if you don't know until now,

the E46 M3 only ever came as a coupé.

There have been people over the years

converting them to M3s, perhaps even Otto

Alex himself built himself.

The wagon that he wanted out his old car.

However, this company, which are called,

I think, Petrile?

Oh, I've got a photo here.

Petroleum.

Petrile are building E46 M3s wagons,

but to whatever spec you want.

So they've done a launch, which is Laguna

Sacred Blue over cinnamon.

Makes sense.

I don't like that spec.

I'm not fan of the spec.

I love Laguna Sacred Blue.

I'm gonna say it.

Sometimes I like more than Oxford Green.

It's the one that originally took my,

my heart for the E46 M3.

But over cinnamon, I'm not too sure it works.

I don't, I don't really.

I just don't like it.

I kind of get it.

I understand it.

Do you know what it is?

It's because from, if you look at the rear

quarter, like the upper rear quarter,

the boot, let's say, the boot and the roof

from that corner, that's just the normal E46.

And also the, the rear lights are the normal

touring ones, which are all like the pre facelift ones.

So you don't have, I don't get it.

And it's beautiful.

But no one really knows why.

they like it.

If you know what I mean, it's just like,

they like it because, oh, that should be cool.

So I think it's cool.

I, that is a bad shaped car.

It's not as good as a coupe.

It's, it's way worse than a coupe.

Yeah.

Right.

I don't, I get it.

It's, it's the car that BMW made one and now

people are going, I'm going to make it.

But anyway, as BMW would have done,

but it doesn't look as good as a coupe.

Now what is cool that they, because,

because it's a company offering it,

they have said, you don't have to have a S-54.

We can do a zero mile S-54.

Or we can do a V10.

We can do an S-85 for a while.

We can do a V8, an S-65.

We can do an S-60.

You know, whatever you want,

they will put in there, which is that,

I think is cool.

If you can go to a company and say,

build me a wagon.

But yeah, I'm the same.

It's just, it leaves me a little

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bit, eh.

You cannot tell me that from the back,

like if you cut off the sort of the front

arches and stuff from the back,

but you know, halfway back.

And it looks anything other than just a long way forward.

It needs a little something,

not a lot, not a certain way,

but like a little bit of a frontal round.

They do look a little bit like frontal round,

which are the 18 inch wheels.

They also, they're also technically the incorrect color.

They should be a shadow crime,

not full silver.

Thank you.

But do you know what I get?

I can see why a company has done that,

because there's going to be a million and one.

Yo, no, I've been yearning for,

I'm touring you for this.

I just wish they built.

Could I have hands, tooth over,

hands, tooth, like houses on the outside?

Green do you do?

And then on the inside, like a brown con yuck.

On the new M3, where does the M3 wagon sit in your space?

It would sit just below, as in,

so you have M3, M3 normal,

M4.

It goes M3.

Yeah, M3 touring.

I love the new M3 touring.

It's important to be so.

Yeah, if you know what I mean.

And then it would be a M4 after that.

I don't even like the M4.

I'm the same.

M4 is-- Ben?

Well, the option is going to go again.

So, well, actually, you can have--

so you've got M3 touring.

Yeah.

Normal M3, which is a four-door.

Yeah.

The M4, which is a two-door coupé,

and an M4 convertible.

I'm ranking them.

You're ranking it.

I'm going M3 normal, M3 touring,

M4 normal, M4 touring.

Do you know what?

No, do you know what?

Sometimes I care so little about the M4 coupé.

That the vert goes above it.

Okay.

Because sometimes I see like a Miami spec,

which is like kind of a silly,

loud color on the outside, some big chrome

wheels, and then like a light-colored champagne interior.

I think, do you know what?

I like the M4 coupé so little.

Yeah.

I can deal with that somewhere,

but it somewhere sits somewhere between--

I have an M3.

Yeah.

But perhaps if I had to have an M4,

maybe I just would-- I'll get the vert.

But yeah, no, the touring-- I don't get that.

I'm possibly in a minority there.

I'd be interested to see more specs.

I want to see what people come out with.

Because now that it's a thing that you can

just go and buy-- Yeah.

That's the thing that a lot of people won't

want to deal with.

They'll have the money for it,

but they're going to go, so I need to--

I need to go and buy two cars.

I need to then pay someone to pull an S54 out.

Then I need to go and find a body shop who'll

put a rear quarter on.

I don't want to deal with this.

Whereas if there's a company like a singer

that you can go to-- Yeah.

That's what I mean.

It makes sense.

Make me something.

We'll start probably seeing some cool specs.

Do we have no idea?

No idea at all.

OK, so just revealing it.

Because I think we spoke about it briefly on

one of the last-- last podcast,

about Mcroft.

Yes.

There's one M1s and a man.

That I'm hearing.

That one M1.

I like one M's.

And even because we were talking about colors

and it was like how I'm not normally a fan.

If someone makes either a recreation or

something like that or a rest in mod,

I like it to go a factory color.

But like a factory color, not necessarily a

BMW color, but one that fits that model.

Yes.

And it's like if someone starts painting it a

San Marino blue or whatever,

it starts to look-- It's BMW,

but if it was available there--

It becomes a show.

No car.

Yeah.

It looks like a show car.

But those are like, as an Alpina green one

and there's a Hockenheim silver one.

And man, it's because they picked the right wheels.

It's sat just right.

It has the right engine, man.

That is a dream build.

What is your ultimate?

No, we're in BMWs here.

No, it's the same BMW.

What's your ultimate BMW build?

Does it exist or would you like to make it?

It does.

Okay, what's that?

It would be basically the current generation M3.

Right?

Underneath.

And that's it.

Thanks so much for coming on.

And then I just pay them under the fence on it.

No, as in like the-- the drive train and all

that sort of thing.

And then I'd have the current Alpina 3 Series,

whatever.

A B3s.

Yeah, but is that the design?

Yeah, 'cause that's got that--

Well, with S58 engine.

Does it?

Yeah.

I've talked about this multiple times.

I love the shape of the-- I guess now it's no

longer the current 3 Series.

The current 3 Series saloon.

I've loved that since it came out.

So that was-- Front end, yeah.

That with that other front end would be--

Right, Alpina B3 Touring S.

What color?

I would do it.

Black with a tan tier.

Oh, lovely.

It's a big old silver.

You see a really tasteful M3 now,

and you can get BMW make bright silver wheels

from factory.

Yeah.

Well, those wheels are.

I thought-- Or on those wheels.

Yeah.

You're right for a little rest,

though, company to come along.

Yes.

You can't pinpoint it.

If you go to them with those options and they

go, "What about this?"

You go, "That is the car."

There is 150,000 pounds.

There they go.

Thanks for the deposit.

Pay the number 400 in a minute.

The sixth generation of Alpina B3 in

September 2019, followed the sedan version,

car is powered by the same S58 straight-six

engine as the M3, but tuned to produce 461

horsepower and made it to an eight-speed

transmission and all-wheel drive as standard.

So meaning that you have the looks of an

M340, non-big-goping grille.

Yeah.

But with the running gear for an M3.

That's my guy.

I'm assuming that's diff and everything and

all the driving-- Yeah, I'm going to--

Real drive mode and all that stuff.

OK.

That's been interesting.

Simply fantastic.

I like those all well.

For me, I would still love one day.

One of my end goals ever is E31A series with the V10.

With the-- I knew you were saying that.

Yeah.

Because that's my favorite-looking BMW of all time.

It is, for me, perfect.

For me, impossible.

Ray Romano.

Revera?

Yes.

Revera.

For Ray and Speed Shop.

He built that.

He did.

But again, as we've spoken about in the--

Again, he wasn't necessarily going for the

sort of rest-stone mod thing as such.

He's just modifying it as he wishes.

But it was that vibe, Ray.

Because it had a V10 in it, it was very

clean, well-made, but just a tad,

just a bit too much.

Yeah, a little bit too much off the market.

I just want some Alpina 18s,

an Alpina front lip, and some nice interior

stuff, and then I'll be happy.

Yeah, but a lot of people have done it,

but there are challenges that you have to deal with.

For instance, the car at the engine doesn't

like being in there.

Oh, that's some major.

I don't fit between these strut towers,

so if you could deal with that and then you'd

have to get an angle grinder out and you go,

"Hey, hi."

Ben shouting at the world, turning.

It was badly old stuff.

It was better, but it was way better in 2016.

You remember the summer?

Ben's bonir James Bond in a B-Y data.

What sort of bollocks is this?

Yeah, it's a weird one.

It's what it is.

There he is, looking like a thumbnail.

It's a crazy photo.

Basically Daniel Craig, who played James Bond

until recently, has signed some sort of new

ambassador deal for Denza, a Chinese brand,

which is owned by B-Y-D.

So he's on the face of it.

Lovely.

So he's gone master Martin.

Can you describe on the screen what you're saying?

Okay, so we have got a car.

Imagine a steak car from Watch Dogs 2.

Very good description.

And now imagine a giant Daniel Craig staring

down a planet.

He is upwards of 40 foot tall.

Yes.

He's also staring directly at you.

He's actually looking at the car.

He's sort of looking at you going,

he's going, this is a B-Y-D.

And you know what, this is speculation,

but he probably got paid, you know,

we could probably tens of millions of pounds this.

I was going to, I thought you were going to

say this is speculation, but he might not be,

he might be Photoshopped in that photo.

And do you know what, Ben?

I'm seeing where you're going with that.

Well, see, it's not very well Photoshopped.

That's like my level of attempt.

Well, we've got this one.

There's another photo here.

I saw another one where I actually saw a

different one to this.

Maybe I saw a four by four one.

I couldn't get it up.

He looks three or four different ages.

Yeah, in every single one.

Because, because there, that is,

that is...

Oh, so that's just a kind of baseball cap on.

Now, this is, I knew this would become a

question and I've been wondering this for many years.

Any moons, the car has a taxi light.

You know when you see an old American,

no, no, it's not.

But you know when you see an old American

film from New York and there's taxi and

they've got their little baseball cap thing

right above the windscreen, a little thing

that lights up taxi, or perhaps an English

taxi, you know, whichever one you like.

I've been noticing it because I saw this in

my review of the other day.

Evolvo, which can you see has the same thing?

It has a bulge.

What it is, I just looked it up for,

is a Lydar scanner.

And it was something installed by like an

aftermarket E sort of company,

they

won like a bid with Volvo to install Lydar

detectors in the

front of the car to help prevent crashes and

for say three

months.

phone camera up to it, it would destroy your

phone's camera, which is nice.

But so yeah, it's Lydar to try and help prevent crashes.

It started as a factory standard equipment

thing for Volvo's, then it became optional,

and now it's being canceled.

So I'm not sure it's gone that well.

But I believe it's Daniel Craig.

Well, he's going and you can say Daniel mate,

what is the new Z9 GT's roof line about?

They'll go, that's the Lydar scanner.

It prevents what it does is shoots rockets.

It can scan your baddies in front of you and

really print them for you.

And you can do whatever them with them,

what you like.

Well, I just think if it's like a cop out,

doesn't it from old James?

But I mean, hey, money talks.

Money does talk, but let's be real here,

James.

You would.

I don't think I would.

I would for like, okay, right now,

I'm a Chinese factory, making cars.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Hi, William.

You're from the Cream Podcast,

is it?

I think so.

Yeah, I know that I love your work.

I know you haven't swatched a single thing.

I've watched all of it.

How about $10 million to have your face on?

Yeah, I don't care what you've said.

Okay.

I'm doing it.

Okay, yeah, no, that makes sense.

Is it enough to, or 10 mil?

10 mil, you're buying a Zollars.

Yeah, no, we're going to go,

yeah, dollars.

There's taxes.

I'm only really talking like ones on during a

bit of chump change.

You're talking like four mil take home British.

I was talking about the tax as well.

No, it's not worth it.

No, you're not.

So four million quid takes home.

Four million pounds in your hand right now.

Yeah, but how can I come on this podcast ever

again after?

How many times have we abused electric cars?

It's true, but at the same time,

you'd have us on the sick behind us,

not with a gun.

Yeah.

Perhaps.

Perhaps.

So you're saying no to four million quid?

It would make things much easier.

It would, yeah, no.

Yeah.

Your life would be, I'd say,

I'd call it life changing.

Also, people forget.

Exactly.

People forget.

Do you know what?

If, right, in 20 years, if someone says to

me, "I'm a Daniel Craig, I'm gonna go that

bloke from the Denzerads."

Yeah.

No, I'm gonna go.

Stop promoting them electric cars,

Woody.

I'm gonna go, what?

James Bond.

But then what you might get is,

yeah, he was James Bond.

You go, "Yeah, he sold out though,

didn't he?"

Yeah, BYD.

And then he drives past you in his Zombra.

Yeah.

I think we'll, four million pounds,

I think you're doing it.

What's the number?

Clear in your account, you finished it.

I'll go and post tax number.

Do you email?

If I could clear a, if I could clear

35:27 Daniel Craig's Denza Deal

a comfortable seven figures in the account,

seven.

Where's the decimal point though?

It's 200, but with the point.

Yeah.

The cut up, a million quid, just like flat,

arsed taxes, I'm happy.

Okay, yeah.

So just know that they're going to be

listening to this, writing it down.

Yeah.

Oh, they're going to give me a million quid.

Oh, please don't do that.

That's what I'm saying is, but by you're

underselling yourself by saying two.

Exactly.

They just wrote down one, and they did the comma.

Yeah, 'cause you can say zero,

zero, zero, and then they went,

"Oh, you said that number," and they just

cropped it off.

Yeah, you can give them a grand.

Don't speak to them anyway.

You can come down, but you can't go back up.

That's a great question.

So I'm a jock, 10 mil, but I'll take a million.

So basically it's two mil.

You're just laying it out on the table.

You're like, "Let's save some negotiation time."

You're gonna knock me down to two.

I'm gonna go back up to, "Let's just call

that a mil."

I call that a million.

It's not a million.

Two mil, bit of time.

Who is that?

No, it's a subsidiary of B.O.R.E.

They're all related to B.O.R.E.

They're called Denza.

There's no amount of money, but this week's

episode is sponsored by Denza,

and I'm a big fan of them.

They've got these new electric cars.

I couldn't say that much.

I heard you arrive in your news under this one.

That was a surprise for sure.

I do it for-- Can I guess?

Yeah.

I think you do it for half a mil.

I think I do it for less than that.

Really?

Sure, why not?

Really?

What if there was an offer of a car?

A Denza?

Yeah.

I take it.

You know what?

I really love the offer.

I think you guys are amazing.

I think I have to pursue different

opportunities at this time.

What's it worth, really?

Yeah.

OK.

How much to-- OK, so it's the same question,

but you can only drive a Denza now for actually life.

Now that-- Wait, wait, hold on.

I couldn't-- Just not.

Just to daily?

Or that's my only car?

You have one other car.

Oh, you can't be seen.

I have to be back, man.

But you know, like-- No, no,

no, no.

That's my thing.

But you know celebs do, like,

they're like, I'm sponsored by--

you know, like, F1 drivers are like sponsored

by Tag or whatever, and it's like,

oh, you've got to work that on.

And they whack them off.

I want a little variety as the spice.

You can have one other fun car of your

choosing, obviously.

But at any point, as in any time,

I can keep them swapping out.

You could have a BID or a Denza.

Oh, that's a good one.

No, you know what?

No, you have one.

You can choose one fun car as well.

But ignore that part.

This is just basically how much are you

taking for this?

I don't know that that's-- Because I don't know.

I do not.

I do not.

I do not.

I do ask your two obsessive cars.

No, because I'd be like, is it indefinitely for life?

Or is it like 10 year?

No, definitely.

You have one car.

No, I can't do that.

Because if it was like 10 years and I'm

getting like a billion pounds,

then I'd think about it.

Because I could build my collection in the back.

Do you know what that is?

That's just doing prison.

Yeah, it's 10 years of prison.

No, you get out and you're like,

I'm free.

It's car arrest.

I'm on Denza arrest.

You get a brand new Denza.

That's what Daniel Craig's on right now.

You get a brand new Denza.

It doesn't look very pleased about him.

Now, this is what I wanted to say earlier.

All of the ads I've seen, he looks angry.

He looks like he's ready to punch out the

lights of the man who's just gone.

All right, just take a step in front of that

Denza, please.

Can I have your-- He's giving it the James

Bond sort of smolder, which is ruining,

you know, it should, yeah.

I don't think you should do that.

Sorry, but can I actually have it number as this manager?

What?

Well, you didn't say I don't have it number.

So it's not, I can't, I can't be that.

You say no.

For doing it with a lifetime.

Lifetime?

Yeah, one other car.

Lifetime signing with Denza.

No other cars are allowed sometimes.

So Will, but you could have like,

sometimes better.

You have to, but I can't use it,

can I?

Why?

I said one other fun car.

Yeah, I know, but I want other things.

Wow, okay, so maybe the most like it isn't

that important then.

I want to say other people as well.

That's what I mean, variety.

If all you have is from that to one other

car, it will get tired.

I know, Will, you got as much like it.

Oh, it's like, it's like just going from your bedroom.

to the kitchen, forever.

But with a billion pounds.

No, but you never go outside.

What do you do with a billion pounds?

What are you going to do?

Just keep eating?

No, because you can still do other things.

It's not like you can.

Also, this kind of argument is a bit lost on

Ben, because Ben's already there.

Ben's like, what am I going to do with

another billion pounds?

Why would that make a difference to

me?

Oh, a billion, is that it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, God.

I

have you ever heard the term drop in the ocean?

This one won't even make a noise.

Notify me that that's gone in.

They might say we are your bank,

so they won't say a deposit of a billion pounds.

You see it come in and you go,

oh, lovely, that's my 1%

interest.

Fantastic.

Oh, interest rates a little bit less.

So yeah, Chinese companies just rolling us

out left, right

and center there.

Shull our tensor.

And James Bond and

Volvo and the baseball cap thing,

didn't know about that.

Ben, I'm going to read this verbatim.

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale, Cale,

Cale, Cale.

Right, and me when I'm on a shooting trip,

but

I'm blind.

Could you, could you, could you advance?

At the time, local time for them was 3 a.m.

Yep, so I haven't heard back today.

So we're, we would like to extend anyone who

has any access on as anything about anything.

Get as in, please.

Now, this is what I'm, this is why I decided

to let this run.

I'd like to understand, could you think he's

watching this?

I think this, good thing about it.

We went

somewhere recently.

We went somewhere recently.

We went somewhere recently.

We went to.

What's that mean?

Where did we go?

Where did we go?

We went to an exquisite car selling department.

Who, what does that mean?

The department store for selling it.

So you famously enjoy Montrecht.

They famously enjoy Montrecht.

We have been visiting there,

visited there once, and we had a tour and

what such, and we very much enjoyed it.

And we launched to our surprise,

two or three people that worked there.

They had, oh yeah, I listened to the podcast

and one channel.

I was stunned to my core that someone who can

deal with what they deal with every single

day will then come home or on their commute

to work or come home and go,

you know,

not.

We don't know who's out there listening,

but it's worth an ask.

Who do you think is listening?

Gordon Murray,

Christian Ronkonnigsek, Matt A.

Rhemak.

We can also provide entertainment in the form of jokes.

Yeah, you haven't seen it here yet,

but just trust we can do that.

If the time came, we'll make the song.

Exactly.

We'll do Christian Ronkonnigsek's exit day at Quail.

We just want to go to the Quail,

more than anything, please.

Okay, so let's shout it out.

I don't think it's a lot to ask.

We're not asking.

What we're not asking for?

Well, I'm not saying it's not like,

give me a car.

No, I want you to just let me into your establishment.

We'll stream them all that they charge right now.

But what is that actually worth?

They're renting the place out.

What's it worth to you?

They're renting it out.

It's not worth anything to me.

I'll do it in an Instagram post.

For Denza.

We're not going to start any fights.

Hold on.

We're not going to eat all your food.

We're going to be very quiet.

I will.

I am.

I'm going to eat everything.

Hold on.

We're missing.

It's been looking us in the face the entire time.

Denza can get us in.

If they can put a giant Daniel Craig

behind their car, they can get us into the quail.

The C line goes up to a road which is public access.

So you drive by boat just to be on the same

road that you're on

without access.

Yeah, exactly that.

You kind of arrive and

then go, I'm in it and go, they go,

no, their line starts

here.

But depending on the boat, if I point them

out and go,

I've just come off that boat,

they go, oh, true, yeah, no,

that's true.

I just got out of a Yukon.

I've got to go, well, you're probably a

tourist, don't you?

Now, if I had shorts on as well,

let's get crafted.

How are you then?

I've said it before, I'm willing to sneak in.

But Ben doesn't want to do it.

I think we go in and go big,

long trench coats, all three of us sat on each other.

Also, it's going to be very long.

That would be 18 feet of man.

Sure, yeah, well, that'd be big.

Bit less, and they go cold.

It looks like it's a thing.

I reckon we could, like, our way in.

I think we could, but also the same people

who do have the ability who were just about

to say enough, send off a message here and

just go, "I'll sneak in."

Yeah, I'll go, go, go.

All right, what do you mean by that?

No, we won't.

No, we won't.

On a real one, please.

We will be good.

No, we won't.

We'll be good.

We should behave ourselves.

Last minute.

We'll behave ourselves.

We'll try to behave ourselves.

Last minute.

If I look through the gates and I see

something I'm interested in.

You're making a rough right.

I will have to use some speech skills.

Speech, you're going to try.

You're going to try and smooth.

What would you do?

All right.

I'm the security guard.

I'm the security guard.

I'd laugh.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we're together.

We haven't gone to the quail.

I'm dead.

I'm not sneaking in.

I'm going to go back to the pill beach.

I'm going to go back to silliness.

I'm done.

Okay.

So you're now on your own and you see that

you're coming with me.

It's just me.

It's just me.

You've got to get in.

And you're dressed the part.

You look great.

What time is it?

I go, why are you looking over there?

I'm here.

It's still early.

Was it nine o'clock at open?

Why is it too scary?

It's 10 o'clock in the morning.

Who is?

Who is?

You're all security guy.

It's 10 o'clock in the morning.

So quite early.

You're wearing linen.

You're all carried out.

You're all carried out.

I'm sorry.

I haven't got a pass.

I forgot my pass.

Incredibly prestigious event.

Hi.

Hi, you're English.

You're clearly not from here.

Yeah.

I came all the way.

You're English.

I came from here.

I came all the way.

Sorry.

Why did you give me attitude there?

That's a bit of a crazy way.

I came all the way here.

And I've left my pass inside.

You left it inside.

I came out for a smoke with Christian.

Do you know, Christian?

Which guy?

No, Christian and Gordon went out for a segue.

Who are they?

They made some of the greatest cars the

world's ever seen.

Okay.

Mr.

Koenigsegg and Mr.

Murray.

Okay.

Tash, shirt, not a lot of hair.

Another shirt.

That's one guy.

Two guys.

In one shirt.

Don't take the piss out of my face.

Two guys.

Death friends.

Okay.

Okay.

And your security.

Let's not take the piss out.

All right.

I'm sorry about that, sir.

Sorry.

Okay.

So if you've side note, I've got a guilt check in.

I've got it now.

So now he's thinking I've offended his mate.

Okay.

I've left my pass in there.

Right.

Okay.

Let me get to that.

Well, I may expect to do a speech.

Hold on.

You've already been inside.

Right.

Yes.

So where did you leave your pass?

You've already been so you know where you

went in the VIP area.

Where's that?

In the top.

It's all flat.

Done a golf course, sir.

Yeah.

No, but it is at the top because there's a

elevated area where you wouldn't know.

No, I've already been here.

Like, how would you know at the gate?

Yeah.

Idiot.

Gordon and Chris, you can see them walking off.

Okay.

Look over there.

Okay.

Look, can you see them?

Oh, just.

Yeah.

I'm

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in.

But you could have just I would just go on.

The sexuality and deception are powerful

agents to the uninitiated.

Okay.

So you're in at that point.

Yeah.

And then he turned around and go,

well, yeah.

Oh, he was going to match a trench coat coming.

But it's just you in a really long trench coat.

Yeah.

No, I think we're in.

So please, the quail organize us listening to anyone.

So, absolutely.

Let's ramp up security.

If you do intelligence of security.

Work for the quail.

Sorry.

Can we come in anyway?

Can we come in?

We'll make some content.

We'll have a good time.

We'll be very polite and we'll say please.

And thank you.

But we will eat every single piece of food.

Absolutely.

Yes.

And right.

What do we have next?

We have, I think our penultimate.

Yes.

penultimate.

Before we get to something else,

which will happen at the end,

we will do a tier list.

We did a tier list.

I think a couple of weeks ago.

It was last week.

We were the world's worst drivers.

Yeah.

And that was actually pretty poor list.

Pretty annoyed about how that came out.

But this week, games of the game,

we will be speaking about and ranking the

worst modifications, I believe.

Better visual modifications.

Okay, sure.

So I've gone through and I've made a list of

what I think and what I think you think are

the worst visual modifications.

Where does stretchy tyres and rusted arches

come on that?

And let's just...

I was teasing Ben about what's on his list.

Have you got this?

He went, yeah.

So visual mods only.

So like pops and bangs.

I did have pops and bangs, but then

you decide you wanted visual.

Pops and bangs, sorry.

Speak

of stage, you decided you were.

I've heard it.

I mugged on ones earlier and you said...

So that could be next week.

It could be short next year.

We don't know.

I have 13.

It's not helpful for a top 10,

if I'm honest.

Can it be top 13?

So it would be top 13.

Why not?

And we are going to, you're going to give

them to us and we will rank them blind.

We'll do 10.

Great.

I'm happy with 13.

All right, we'll do 13.

This is what TDC is all the way,

by the way.

It's just a shallow share of it.

Top 13, worst modifications,

blind ranking.

Yeah, so where this works, listeners is that

if they put in, if I say, Will's mods,

something, I don't know, something,

a mod they're like, and they say number one,

that's my worst mod.

That's locked in, nothing can go.

If something worse than that comes up,

tough.

Hey, that's where C where it goes.

Right, let's start.

F1, Rainlight.

Ooh, tough.

Really not a fan.

Difficult to rate something or something.

You've got one through 13 is free.

But realistically, not, there's going to be

some worse ones.

So I'm thinking as a mod.

Do you know what I think, maybe?

I think this maybe starts at like a six,

because it's middle of the road,

then we can gauge the rest of them from worse

or better than that.

Seven.

Seven is like, gives us some space.

It's not halfway, because we can't actually

physically do halfway.

Ben's maybe stupid list.

Right, let's do that then.

Number seven.

Number seven is F1 Rainlight.

Well, Ben just texted on his phone,

isn't he?

And our next one.

Could we get the next one so we can think

about it while you message, please?

Okay, the next one is going to be wheels,

but no lows.

So you're putting art market wheels in your

car, but you're not lowering it,

you're keeping the standard fitment.

You know what, it really upsets me.

It upsets me, but I think that you have to

identify cause and, what they mean by it.

Okay, could they only afford the wheels at

the time being and next month means they're

getting the lows?

That's fine, it doesn't matter.

Have you put the wheels on?

You go, that's fine.

You've just seen

the car.

For that reason, I think it's possibly ranks low.

Wait, what does it mean?

As it ranks, it's not that, it's

relatively inoffensive, but it depends on your intent.

See to me, it's more...

What if, though, you see someone's delicious

set of T37s on their car, but it hasn't quite

got around to lowering it.

But that's my biggest issue,

because you were so close.

You had everything, but it's kind of at fault.

But you don't know that next week.

You do not know that next week,

lows.

But how do you know that?

But this is the thing, you're making assumptions here.

And that makes an arse out of me,

isn't you?

No, not arse, arse, but sure.

Assume.

Right, I want to say, I want to go in at five.

Ooh, I would have put in lower,

but I would be happy to meet you at five.

I think it's harsh on some, but I think there

are many that deserve five or more.

Yeah.

Okay.

Next one on the list, we've got big stance camber.

We're talking, we're like 10 degrees of camber.

You know what?

This ranks highly for me.

I hear it.

I can't.

I know everyone was saying it is in respect

to all builds and all of that.

If our tastes were all the same,

it'd be boring.

That looks like ass.

Like a one you are destroying your car drives

like us, like actual feces.

Your car drives like she eat and it looks

like ass and you're going through tires at a

rate of knots.

What are you just swapping around,

mate?

What's cool here?

You've got the other inside of the tire for you.

I don't get it.

Three or four.

'Cause we got to leave one or two,

there's going to be something work.

I could, I could, I could, I could go two.

Should we say three then?

I'd be willing to say three.

If I'm, if I'm four, then you're two.

Three.

But just know if it's you, I could easily see

you at one or two.

Okay.

Especially if you're planning to things with my friends.

Especially if it's, if it's not solid,

it's static.

It's static, yeah.

No air ride.

Yeah, but it's no air ride.

Why, why, why would you do that?

It's like me saying, you know what,

you're an idiot because you walk by bending your knees.

I'm walking straight, I'm walking straight

leg and there's no cartoon in there at all.

Straight up smashing bone on bone.

Fantastic.

But not because they've had any sort of medical issue.

They've just gone.

I think it's cooler.

I think it's better.

All right.

Bent legger.

More like you straight legger.

It's just stupid.

You're a stupid, stupid trend and it needs to do that.

I don't see it very often though.

No, I'm not saying that.

Disappearing more and more.

Thankfully,

because they can't make it.

So that's three Ben we've locked in.

Next up, chameleon tint.

Annoying, but not that high up for me.

It's normally joined by other mods.

I'm thinking it has to hover around the F1 line.

Do you know what?

I'm going to say something.

I think a chameleon tint is an accoutrement.

It's an addition to a bad build anyway.

A whole car can't be made bad by a chameleon

tint, if that makes sense.

It's not nice looking, but it's something

that adds on to an already terrible car.

You know, a car with a lot of stance plus

chameleon tint as a multiplier.

That's a 2x multiplier.

But on his own, just a bit annoying.

Double points.

I'm saying, I will go in it.

10 on that, eight, nine.

Okay, nine.

Let's run that.

Ben, I have no idea what numbers we have left.

I'll tell you.

This is why 13 was not great.

Well, it's my list.

We've got what, 10 left still.

So we're now into the top.

I think we've done much.

No, you've got nine left.

You've done four.

So we've got, right now, one clear,

two clear, three big stance camber.

We've got four clear, five wheels,

no lows, six clear, seven F1 rain light,

eight clear, chameleon tint and nine,

and then 10 left.

10, 12, 13.

Okay, we've got the top, top available and the bottom.

Right.

So next up is lows, but no wheels.

It's a grip.

Now, less offensive.

What do you mean?

So we've lowered the car, but some standard

wheels, standard fitment.

Okay, standard fitment.

Standard wheels.

That's important.

So it's everything but your actual physical

coil and spring.

What does that mean?

No, it has coil and spring.

It has coil others, but nothing else.

Right.

So you bring it down, you can't bring it out

with a spacer.

Less offensive.

It's an opportunity is missed,

but nowhere near as bad as wheels,

but without the right fit.

I think it could look worse.

It can because I think a car that's a

standard ride height and a fitment hasn't been sorted.

It's standard.

It is what it is.

This is somewhat vanilla.

If you decided to lower it.

Now, again, some people will say the drivers

among you will say, I have learned the center

of gravity and I fitted a set of racing shock

absorbers so I can go around corners faster.

And I have appreciated the fact that adding

spaces will ruin my geometry and will mean

I'll be tramlining all over the road.

That will be that, those people in some

cases, but also it looks like ass.

If you lower it a load like your tucking

wheel on a standard fitment like sunken wheel

with standard wheels, then that's quite offensive.

But on the most part, I think it's less

offensive than wheels without suspension.

I'd like to go in at like 11 or 12.

Next up, tinted lights.

It can be front or rear, just any kind of tinted light.

They really do upset me.

I'll be honest, they are very rarely.

Odd is that some manufacturers have a sort of

smoked light and I don't mind it.

But it's like aftermarket window tint where

you can see the bubbles, you can see that

it's a film.

It's not like having a tinted glass where you

can see that that was glass designed to be tinted.

It is a tinted glass.

tinted lights, aftermarket tinted lights are

the whole unit is dark.

It just works less.

It's not doing anything anymore.

You just now have a black box on the back of

your car that glows red vaguely.

There's no point in this.

What you're doing, you've just taken away any

design language that they built into the light.

You've taken away functionality of the light.

You've made it worse.

What's the point in this?

Especially bad when it's a really dark tint

and you've basically made the light black

where you then have a car that hasn't yet to be unlocked.

That I don't understand.

People go for that full blacked out effect.

Again, you can't see anything either.

Choppers, Whoppers, Coco.

What have we got around six?

We've got anything around there?

Seven is seven three.

We've got, no, seven has F1 Rainlight.

Five, seven wheels, no low, six is three.

Six is three?

Six feels it's in the same sort of area as an

F1 Rainlight, but it's almost more idiotic.

Yeah.

I think six is nice.

Okay, next up.

Sticker slogans.

So when someone puts some stupid,

what is it?

The classic sports mind towel by four cars,

all over the thing around me.

Yeah, clowns.

That's a stupid slogan.

That's pretty cool.

Good branding, really, I think.

Will be available

soon.

It's a good one.

They are almost never, and when I say almost,

I mean, certainly always, never funny.

No.

Especially if it's a sarcastic one.

I think it might need to go near the lower end.

Yeah, it's

somewhat harmless.

I'm not a sticker man.

No, I don't like

stickers.

On the line, you have eight,

10, 12 and 13.

Oh, maybe 12.

What's at 11?

What's the lowest?

No, we need to

know what's around it.

I think it's less offensive.

It is.

It's just a sticker.

It's somewhat reversible.

It also depends.

I fitted one actual sticker that had slowed down.

How bought was it?

And it was on my fiesta.

I hated them then.

And I came across it and I thought,

that's funny.

It wasn't.

It said, how is my driving?

Go let my mum know.

And that was on the back of my fiesta.

It was the only sticker I had on that car.

What about one of the fiesta that was a baby on board?

Break it to me, I'm crying.

Ah, yes, the famous.

That was good.

So stuff like that.

That, if that, don't, let's not do that.

Okay.

12?

That is in at 12.

Next up, our list.

We have got quilted interior mess.

That's a tough one.

That's not what you have available to do.

What are the top three?

You got one, two, four, eight,

10 and 13.

It's feeling four for me.

It's feeling four.

It doesn't feel, I'm not hating it enough to

be at one or two.

No, but it's, we've had a car recently come

in as a good car that has got that.

But every time I see it, it makes me shudder.

It makes me want to start swinging.

I'll be honest, I'm burning it.

It's probably worth some money because of the

car it's in.

It's probably quite sort after I'm burning it.

I'm setting it on fire.

It's never, it's always deemed as a like,

it's comfortable upholstery.

It's just a matte shoved in a car and you can

still see the edges.

You can see where it ends.

You can see where it folds and it moves around.

It's never, ever good.

I'm going to extend myself.

What does that mean then?

Yeah.

I believe, I used to like it.

I believe all, nearly all diamond quilting in

any form of car interior, whether it's from a

factor or not is bad.

I would agree.

I would agree.

If not for, if not for Bentley.

No, because it's bad.

That's, I

used to think the same, but in a,

in a continental, but

like there's some of the continentals where

it's just a little bit more subtle.

I don't mind it.

I hate it.

I used to love it.

I used to diamond stitching used to be like a

Lamborghini stitching.

It's saucy.

It makes me want to vomit.

Diamond stitching is a cheap nightclub.

Yeah.

It's, it's, it's horrible.

It's nasty.

What's the headboard?

I mean, what's that then?

I mean, the buttons in the headboard,

that.

Oh, a Chesterfield.

I'm not a Chesterfield.

I've got, I've got that.

Crushed velvet.

Oh, crushed velvet.

That's what that is.

It's crushed velvet and neon's on my,

I'm not a white LEDs on my house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So that's in at where?

This is a cream podcast, the judging episode.

Four.

I'd say four is a solid.

You could easily be higher because again,

your property, you are harboring enemies of the state.

of the other mods.

You're gonna get very upset about this one.

All your car.

What's this, that's all with them?

Painted break drums.

It's tough.

You know what it's tough, but it's not that

offensive because- Oh, I thought you'd have

more intense reactions than that.

Do you know what it is?

Okay.

Sometimes they're really bad when they're red.

Like, come on, man, what are you doing?

But do you know what?

A painted break drum is a sign of a novice.

Oh, hold on though.

It has to be like a color.

It can't be like black.

No, no, no, I know.

That's what I mean.

I'm saying, but it's the sign of someone who

hasn't yet understood the goal,

if that makes sense.

It's a first mod.

It's something you do without knowing.

You haven't got budget.

Why it makes sense.

Someone goes, yeah, break out as you go.

I'll make my break for it then.

So it's, you know what I mean?

It's a little bit innocent.

Yeah.

There's no older choppers doing this.

Who's going, if there aren't,

it's bad, but it's unlikely.

It's unlikely.

I would let it off lightly.

What have we got on the-- I put it at the--

Is it 13?

I'll let it prop the table up.

Wow.

You're eight, 10 and 13.

13 feels right now.

I thought you'd have a much more intense rate.

It's not great to see.

It doesn't film in with range.

No.

I'm seeing a quilted floor mat.

Okay.

Next one.

Stretch tires.

Again, it kind of, it falls in time with the

stance geeks.

But then you've got-- Do you know what?

Let's all be honest here.

Let's all have, you know, Ben smile.

I could see him.

It actually upsets me more on your car than

it does on a stance car.

Because on a stance car, it has a fight.

No, it was an action.

The function is to get the widest possible

wheels and then stretch your tires in so it

still fits under the arch.

But when you have a car that is at a height

that it could have chunky tires,

it's worse.

Who would do that?

But yours was not done out of,

out of-- Fennum.

Out of deliberosity.

No, it was a necessity.

It was done out of, oh, these are actually

quite stretch tires and I didn't mean that.

And I will, I will be changing it.

Exactly.

Because it upsets me great.

I will suck.

No, this is going to go against everything I

said about stance cars.

But there is a level.

There is a point you pass.

Perhaps it's a camber setting.

Perhaps there is a, there is a degree at

which when you go past and I go,

no, no.

Seven and a half that will help you.

I have no interest.

Seven and a half degrees, possibly.

But where, you know, when someone,

especially if it's on air or even maybe if it

is static and it sits just right on the wheel

and it's stretched, I can go,

you know what?

A level of craftsmanship or more,

or our time and effort and research and

attempting things has got into this.

So I can appreciate it.

I would never do it to my car because I don't

understand-- I don't understand why,

but I can say that someone didn't just buy

the wheels and put them on the car and didn't

just buy the wheels and buy suspension and

put them on the car.

There was some work that had to go into it.

So I can understand that, but also,

some stretch tires are just dumb.

Yeah, they really are bad.

When you see some tire shops,

like, well, people trying to fit them with a

tire machine, wow, well, we were.

Ben, what have you got left?

One, four, eight, 10?

Hold on, if you're looking at eight or 10,

one.

Sorry, one, one, two, eight,

10.

I think it's somewhere in reality between two

and eight, but we can't do that famously at the point.

So I think we go eight.

Eight's fired by me.

So we've got one, two and 10 left.

One, two and 10 remaining.

Oof.

It's tough one.

What could come next?

Steak, carbon fiber.

No.

You know what?

I don't know if it can be one for me,

but two, it could be.

It could also be 10.

Because it also feels like that I can't afford it.

My budget's low, but I like carbon.

So I'm going to make that mistake at a young,

young age.

It's true.

It's trying because it could be tasteful design.

Yeah, true.

No, I don't know what you've got to come.

Also, there are levels.

There are levels to fake carbon because there

are ones like we took off the M140I,

which have the weave is literally,

it's all over the shop.

And there are ones that just kind of look

vaguely like actual carbon, but aren't.

Now, when you say fake carbon,

do you?

in there?

That would count.

Yeah, that's bad.

Because I've done it.

You do.

But I'd never do it again.

But as a younger, as a young job,

I went, well, I've got trims in my

car, haven't I?

So I have to wrap them in carbon,

right?

It's

also it's not me.

It's not me.

Well, the Ben is carbon.

I can't say anything because it's not.

I'm young.

Of course.

Yeah.

But what if I was to advise you,

I would personally say that if you're going to.

No, no, no, you can't do this.

You can't do this.

You can't do this.

If you're going to say, no, you have to let

us make our mistakes, Ben.

Let's lay land, lay land.

But you were talking about people like paint

and break drums is being like an obvious mistake.

Of course.

You're putting that low.

It's sort of a low sign.

One, two and 10.

It's a big gamble.

I'm willing to do it if you want to do it.

Lock it in 10, Ben.

On it.

So burn and two.

We have the hope that these are some ruffians.

Remaining the final two.

What?

Fake vents.

It's a good, it's tough.

That's quite tough.

I'm quite happy with that.

It does feel similar to the carbon thing.

Yeah, but it is.

I've never felt the need to do it.

Vents are events that you are choosing.

There's no innocence in that.

There are.

I want to make this look bad.

I'm making a judgement.

Yeah.

I am making a judgement.

I'm seeing that.

Do you know what?

Sometimes maybe it's a Ford thing or a

Vauxhall thing where they actually cut it

into the bonnet and you are doing it for function.

You're doing it because everyone else is

doing it and because you think it looks cool.

If you have to stock it on.

Yeah, full stick on it.

It's tough.

The interests of, I think this is possibly

exactly how the last list went is that we

left one to throw last.

Tough.

Perhaps on the next one, we'll just pick one first.

No, no, straight away, whatever it is.

So are we locking in at two?

I think, you know, we can only find out.

Oh, we put that one at one.

All right, let's do it and we live with regret.

Let's let the game- Face vents at the number

one worst modification you could ever make.

And do you know, if someone said that to me,

I'd go, yeah, potentially, that could be potentially bad.

No one that you didn't know about.

What is it?

Window Flectors.

Now, you know what?

Now, here's the thing.

Now, here's the thing.

I think this is played out perfectly.

Because for me, it could be one,

but realistically, most people actually,

the majority of people quite like them for some reason.

You've had window flecks.

So I think it's perfect that this fits too.

It's not the worst, but in our company,

it's bad.

Less offensive than a fake vent.

Yeah, I'm still making some judgment,

but I'll go, do you know what?

I've been there.

I love, I hate them.

with just such all my heart and soul.

I think people's argument is that,

and I can kind of get it from using them,

that you can have the window open when it's

ever so slightly raining.

Yeah.

You can do that anyway.

Here's something for you.

Don't do that.

Have your window closed when it's raining.

Have your, have your heating system in your car work.

So that you do not need your window open when

it is raining.

Do you in your house open your windows when it's raining?

Do you, do you just open the lid to your bin

so it just gets wet in there?

What are you doing?

Don't do that.

Stop doing that.

And it looks shit.

it.

So your final list is this.

Yeah.

Number 13.

Painted brake drums.

Number 12.

Sticker slogans.

Number 11.

Lows with no wheels.

10.

Fake carbon fiber.

9.

Chameleon tint.

8.

Stretch tires.

7.

F1 rain light.

6.

Tinted lights.

5.

Wheels no lows.

4.

Quilted mats.

3.

Big stance camber and 2.

Wind deflectors and finally 1.

Fake vents.

I've done well.

I think wheels without wheels.

Low and low Zart wheels could probably be

closer together.

Yeah.

I think they're a little bit too far either

end of the spectrum.

But I'm pretty happy with that.

I'm pretty proud of you guys.

That was better than the last one.

Yes.

I was more well thought out.

Because we're still.

We don't quite know.

They'll inevitably be mods that we've missed out.

Sure.

Mainly because Ben came up that list.

But also Ben, good list.

Thanks.

Good stuff, Ben.

And it's really lovely to know that you came

up with a complete on your own.

Yeah.

Despite asking us 15 times, if we could

please tell you which ones.

Anyway, so what are we?

What's my one?

I got one.

There's one.

Yeah.

Everyone knows what that one is.

What is it?

It's the.

It's the it's the it's the.

It's the it's it's the it's the again.

It's the, it's the, it's the,

it's the, it's the, it's the,

it's the, it's the, it's the,

it's the again.

It's the, it's the, it's the again.

Must be elegant.

Yeah.

I got that.

It's how you say it.

Um, but other than that, which is obviously

one five nines in there.

Yeah.

But you know what, a one five nine with a

twist, a one five nine that doesn't exist.

I want, oh, I want the one five nine that

should have always been.

She's a V six or V eight.

Yeah.

A one five nine with a Maserati V A.

would really tickle my pickle.

It would really would be a stupendous.

DCT?

Well, I don't think they have them like a gated manual.

Would be stupendous or.

Yeah.

What if we cut, what if we were to cut the

floor pan of a like a quadruport eight or a

Gran Turismo might be closer and then put the

body of the one five nine over it.

Oh, okay.

Chokes thinking about that.

We need to have a Gran Turismo though,

and a quadruport.

We don't have that.

We don't have that.

And a one five nine as well.

We don't have that.

We don't have one of those.

No, no, yeah, one five nine.

But also still lingering in the background

because I'm still in a car limbo at the

moment is Mark on RS is lovely.

Any other form of Ford?

I haven't told you this this morning when I

was on the way into the unit.

I was following a, do not know the blue is a blue.

Imperial blue, the darker blue.

Focus RS, but Mark two, Mark two.

I was like, I'm drawing and I was like,

that's Will.

Will was bought on you daily.

And then the guy was going so slow,

I thought, that's not Will.

1:11:04 Will's Dream Car Decision

I thought you just bought yourself on your daily.

A Ford of

some variety, still the little,

like an escort or something.

And also car would be lovely.

Just anything really at this point.

And also perhaps him.

Well, he was, again, he exists always.

I can't ever, one day it will be here,

maybe.

One day.

Well, oh, Ben's bought a mercy market.

I bought a mercy market.

No.

I had a very enlightening experience at

Supercar Driver last week.

I tried it to Edwin.

And I have decided something.

Yes.

I think we did talk about this last episode.

No, we didn't.

We were going to come back to it.

We didn't come back to it.

Oh, OK.

I told you we were getting too off topic.

Retention, isn't it?

Yes.

Retention for a week coming next week.

My dream car has changed.

OK.

So it's not long ago.

I don't change the stand.

It's not changed.

It's not changed.

It doesn't work like that.

It's it's this is the dream car.

No, it doesn't dream.

It's been.

It's been confirmed.

OK.

I've decided.

Who confirmed it?

Is it like a very helpful conversation?

I've been thinking about it.

I've been telling a lot of people.

So now it is.

I have actually.

Random people.

So what conversation do we have?

I said to you because you pitched it better

than I did.

I said, wait, hold on.

I might need to think about this.

We were discussing.

Edwin said to me, basically,

my dream car, Oh, my car, would be a manual.

That's it.

I remembered it.

I remember that.

Aston Martin V12.

Yeah.

I said to Ben, you buy your Aston Martin V12.

You get the money for it.

You get it together.

But you realize at this point in your life,

that's it.

You've now got other commitments.

You're probably going to be buying a house,

you've got kids or what sort of stuff.

You know, the billions of gone.

They've been taken by the government and by U.L.E.S.

cameras.

I wouldn't get it.

So the V12 vintage is the last big car you're

ever going to buy.

Which would be good.

Not to be ungrateful, but that would be what

you would end on.

Yes.

Would there be a part of you that was

disappointed that you didn't make it onto an

event at all?

Yes.

And you were upset.

I was upset.

I thought about it.

And it hit me when you said that.

Now you've got an event at all.

It's the final big purchase you ever make.

Could you die knowing that that was the last

bit car you had?

Absolutely.

And there it is.

Yeah.

So that's it.

Because the V12 vintage comes in with the

thing I want to do with the tunnel.

I want to wear a suit.

I don't know why.

Always do suit.

I just want to be cool.

But when you see one, when you see a V12

vintage, does it make you?

It does.

Does it make you feel like a very small boy?

No.

It makes me feel excited.

Okay.

But in a grown up way, Yes.

Michigan Bloody hell, that's nothing more to

do to it.

Oh, lovely car.

A frightful amount of road tax on that.

I'd certainly buy one of those if I had the money.

No, but the end store, it makes me,

it makes me feel like a giggly little guy again.

There it is.

And I thought, and at that moment,

I was like, you know what, that is the guy.

And it's been, it was the first car I ever liked.

It's the car that I will always stare at.

There was one at Food and Fuel last year.

And I just couldn't stop looking at it.

Shout out, shout out Tom, shout out Horsepower Hunters.

And so I've decided that's my one of the life.

I heard.

He said so.

Can I get an age?

30.

Just in general.

Come on.

There'll be, there'll be on the depreciation

curve possibly.

I think by 35, I'd like one.

35 years.

The big A doors going up.

And it's going to be.

There are two specs.

Well, this is, this was the,

the, the, I think the way that you know that

it's real is that I said to Ben,

what if it was a normal event at all?

Would you care if it was not an SV?

And he went, no, I said, what if it was an SV in it?

Wasn't an SV J?

And he went, I don't care.

I would like an SV J, of course,

but of course, but actually a LP 700,

the early boys, or a white one.

A white one, a white one.

There's not one expecting.

No, a white one with Roadster wheels.

Yeah, I saw one with very subtle yellow calipers.

I've seen that.

And I thought that, that, that is great.

Or I would actually like, if it was a

Roadster, a muted launch spec,

which isn't very lamborghini.

It's a little.

Like baby blue metallic with the blue.

Which isn't very lamborghini,

it's not very loud.

But I like that.

No, but it is very Lamborghini Roadster.

So there's your, that's early,

early event at all.

But that's got the, I will say,

I know that the SV and the SVJ,

they're going to be worth more money.

They're more special, they're faster,

they're more power.

But I actually think the shape

1:15:18 Lamborghini Aventador Appreciation

without wing, that event door silhouette,

as it sits, like look at that.

That's, that's the fact.

I think it interrupts.

I agreed.

That shape is, well, it is very nice.

more and I was not, I was not always a

Lamborghini man, well, I was never a

Lamborghini man other than the Mercilago.

The Mercilago for me was the one exception to me.

But I remember when the event all came out,

I had a wallpaper of a Viola,

a Thilia, a ventilor for a long time.

Early one, six, just 700 and just the shape

of it, the shape of it is unmatched.

I think they will be worth one day a lot and

a lot of money because Mercilago is special

to quite a small demographic people and they

are now quite in.

They are quite, you know, influencer to be

like, "Oh, I love the Mercilago."

But everyone loves an event at all.

But this is the last non-hybrid V12,

obviously it's not manual, which is why they

are not super special.

But these, because it is non-hybrid,

it's like the last real kind of big V12,

Lamborghini.

It's just there.

There are older ones that I think are better,

but...

Sorry, this was...

You first.

I can't...

Well, it's a 200 pixel thing,

but look at that.

It's cool.

That's such a good color.

I sent you on...

Oh, go on the cream podcast chat on Slack.

It was a real life.

I saw the other day.

I liked it.

I don't know who made it.

Sorry, I can't give you a credit.

But...

I took a screenshot of it, which I've just

sent to you, which that is...

If I had a normal one, it's this spec.

If I had a roadster, it's the spec you just saw.

And if you're listening, imagine an event

store in two different colors.

That is quite special.

Those wheels change the game.

They really do.

Also, I'm not a big fan of color callipers,

but yellow callipers on that.

That's big for me.

You are on that UAE spec.

You're on that device.

I don't care.

That's fantastic.

You need, yeah, to get a white eventador,

unfortunately, what comes with it is a red interior.

And that's happening.

You don't get a choice in that matter.

It's coming with tints all around.

I might have a roadster in that spender,

in the silvery blue, with the tan interior.

I saw a roadster.

It's one of the few times I will accept it.

It's not really convertible to be fair,

but something where the roof comes off.

We did say we agreed it's a target.

It is.

It's a little thin section of roof that comes

off between your front windscreen and your rear.

And you know what?

It's not for feeling the wind in your hair.

It's for the noise.

It's for the sounds.

That with big.

But you are also, you want the high pitch,

the gintani spec.

But it can be done.

I like-- It can be done.

I like the-- It's possible.

I was doing research seven night.

Ooh.

I was trying to find out what--

For your event at all.

You know every SVJ has the flames,

and we're not talking like a pop and a bang.

We're talking like, it spits a fireball for

three seconds.

I found out what that is.

I can't remember the name of it,

but I did find it.

I've saved it on my phone.

You know what?

This is why you come to the cream podcast

because we might have information.

I've done some research.

And what I was is-- It's beyond me.

But there's many ways you can do it,

but there is one kit that everyone has,

which is the one you always saw on Instagram

with them flying past.

Yes.

And I can't remember it now,

which is great.

Well, Gintani.

No, it's not Gintani.

It's a different brand.

Oh, OK.

But it's something to do with--

It gets rid of the valve, so it has--

Oh, valve flow.

No.

Because they have valves from factory,

but part of it, the reason flames so easily

is because when you put like a Gintani on it,

effectively, when you go and course them in

the track mode, it opens the valves.

OK.

OK.

So when you put these exhausts on,

they delete the valves, and then you are

basically in normal driving mode,

but it always has coarser exhausts.

Big flame-- You get a bit of heat in there.

So I can't remember what the look of the kit

is called, but it's like 20 rounds.

So you've got that on all of that?

You've got that on all of that.

I don't understand the values of exhausts on supercars.

It's funny.

It's like maybe they are slightly more

advanced because there's, you know,

there's more to get round, but there's always less pipe.

Yeah, there's less pipe.

So I was like, we were at Unknown Place

recently, and they were talking about,

I think it was F50 exhaust.

And F50 exhaust, like a standard one.

You're talking in excess of 50,000 pounds.

50,000 pounds.

He said, the guy, this guy was just,

to now have this chubby exhaust for,

he was either 17 or 27,000 dollars.

And he was like, it's an amazing deal,

he got on that.

That's crazy.

Sorry, why are we not just cutting back boxes

out of things?

1:19:30 Supercar Exhaust Systems

One that I found, when they have,

on the website, just a photo of the whole

exhaust, it's like three feet of just pipe,

in like a relatively.

Rich can do it, rich could do it.

Trust me, I mean, I'm like, should you just

take it, see like, drop the event at all for rich.

It's interesting, but yeah, see if you could recreate it.

We just need someone event at all.

He's willing to let it be chopped up.

Also, SVJ exhaust is higher,

slightly, so they're not at the bottom.

Possibly, it's slightly shorter,

I don't know.

Possibly, like our 600 LT, they literally

have the amount of pipe they have is very small.

Well, same.

Massive, really.

I haven't seen, the ones of a spit,

you can get flames from events still quite easily.

It's bits of flame, but what I'm talking

like, it's three second long,

almost flame kits back there.

I like the flame, where it's not like a

liftoff flame, it's when you're on the throttle.

It does need for speed nitrous spec flame.

Which you can get from which McLarens do as

well, and it's just, again, people will say

that you're childish, but if a car shoots

flame, organically, it doesn't have a spark

plug in it or something, I'm about it,

I'm hearing it, I like what you're doing,

I love your work.

If you can get, so it's the SVJ and the

events that are ultimate, whether it's the

final one, both have that mid-mounted exhaust

on the rear, and only those ones would do the

big, big flames, but the rest you'd get a

flame from quite easily.

The one you're talking about,

where you just accelerate and it goes,

you can get from a normal event.

Yeah, just a normal event at all going hard,

there is a, hey, I have a video of one doing the classic.

Why is that cool?

Flames.

Yeah, why is that just too?

I find it funny because imagine,

is just a regular person seeing that come past you.

You would think that the world did it.

The video you showed me the other day,

which was literally a 97 foot flame coming

out of the back of the vent store.

If you were Doris going down the road,

you would have heart failure.

It's a dude, people have probably seen it

'cause it's got millions of views,

but it's a guy who pulls up in a tunnel

alongside and lifts off through on the same

time and it just goes, it just stops.

We're gonna say, imagine, just being on your

way to work and seeing that,

mental.

I mean, it's like a badge of honor,

anyone who's had a car that can shoot a flame.

And you reach a new level.

Yeah, it does.

In your own life where you go,

I have had a car or a now owner car that can

shoot a flame basically on demand.

And I figured out how to do it.

And it doesn't matter how shit the car is.

If it spits flames, you're cooler than the

person that doesn't spit flames.

This is the classic video which is hog with

the early car.

Just doing ultimate, like that's fighter jet.

Yeah, that's just going to outer space.

A car accelerating with blue flames firing

out the exhaust.

I'm sort of psychological reason why that's

cool to everyone.

Only thing with an eventador,

it's not what it's the exhaust,

is it doesn't have that, it doesn't have the wing thing.

The bad wings.

The events, they have it, but they don't.

I think they missed out on that.

Yeah, yeah.

Because that was a unbelievable design thing

on the Mercilago.

And then the eventador, it was like,

there's a couple of flaps.

A couple of flaps that you won't really

notice as much.

Whereas the Mercilago, it was like,

when they were up, we got angry out here.

Will knows about this, but my onto the week

might be happening.

Oh.

What is it, Ben?

What's my want with the week?

It's always happening.

Is it a Ferrari?

No, no, no.

That's two more pants.

No, no, no, no, no.

What's the other one with the week?

The one that he's beat, he's come and gone,

but he's always there.

He's from England.

He's in English, which is rough,

because I've already bought a TVR,

which means two English cars are not a good

way to--

You're going, what's your name?

Ben, come on now.

What's the car that suits me more than any

other car on Earth?

Ben's going, Volkswagen Beetle?

Car is it?

Ben, you know this.

What car?

English?

Yeah.

Oh, a Range of a Classic?

1:23:04 Will's Range Rover Project

Yeah.

It's happening.

A perfect spec one has come up for sale just

a few minutes away from my mate,

Will of Estes customs, who is a Land Rover

and Range of a specialist.

He's going tomorrow morning to have a look at it.

So we will find out it's probably gonna be a

rule next week if it's not happening.

You didn't tell me this?

No, I didn't, you were having on the weekend.

Wow.

So he's gonna go have a look at it tomorrow.

That's nice.

And if it's good.

We can't trust Edwin anymore.

No, I'm doing all sorts of sneaky stuff.

You're gonna go next week and go.

But it is.

I'm the names Klinkenberg.

It is a black hard dash, so

not soft dash, on factory air suspension,

quite round,

quite sore.

Too tough.

No, no, it's pretty simple, that

system.

Okay.

And black interior with a bit of a

project.

So, oh, I'm so excited.

That's my one.

That's

my one.

Will I get to work challenge?

Yeah, I'm too enamored by the TBR to want

anything else at the moment.

So that's the only thing I was thinking of,

woke up Saturday morning, bang,

Facebook marketplace, first scroll of the morning.

Screel!

And they're off.

Wow, exciting.

I think we're getting a little bit delirious.

We're going to choose this moment to wrap up,

Ben's scared, because the camera's going to turn off.

Thank you very much for listening to this

episode of the Cream Podcast.

We will see you next week with updates,

galore.

Oh, yes.

Cream, Ben, it's a door.

Ben's buying an event.

Event.

I'm sorry, I thrived straight.

A door.