Expensive Eggs, The Scariest Car Buy And A Live Ferrari Reveal - C.R.E.A.M. #48

0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin

Oh, we're looking for people called Vabo.

No, but what I'm saying is I have no horse in this race.

Oh, they're my eggs.

Harold.

Ian.

Harold.

So, guys, what's your favorite breakfast meat?

Hello, and welcome back to the 48th Cars Rule

Everything Around Me podcast with myself,

Edwin, William to my left or your right and

Ben Hamine behind the camera.

I'm so excited for the podcast.

Nice.

At the beginning of every cream podcast,

we asked the question, do cars rule or ruin

everything around us?

William, what is it today?

I'm going to say rule.

Okay.

But there's a little hint of ruin in there.

A looming ruin?

Because a car has left.

Casa de Chandler.

And it's my clear.

It's gone.

I'm actually very, very sad about it.

I do not get sad when I get rid of a car.

I come to that decision of, right,

it's time to go get something else.

I am still looking for something else.

But the Clio, I decided of months of looking

at it on the driveway and not using it,

which is the main decision that I made,

really.

It had to go.

And this is the perfect place to sell a car.

Under like five grand.

You will sell a car.

You come to this unit, you go talk to Alex,

anyone here, you will sell that car in 24 hours.

Someone will buy the car.

You might need to badger that person and keep

on at them.

But I said to Taylor, I was like,

would you?

And he went, yeah, shall I let everyone in on

the little secret?

Oh God.

You know what?

People aren't going to feel bad for us after this.

Will said to me, I'll get rid of it for like

two and a half grand, which would be very,

very cheap to just get it moved on.

And I said, I'm pregnant.

You can get a bit more like I'll buy off you

for two and a half grand.

And the table walked in, I went,

Taylor, surely want Will's car for three and

a half grand.

Yeah.

We talked for a while and then what?

He paid you three grand for it.

Yeah, he takes me that night and I sent him

all the details and he went,

William, don't clear.

Will you sell it?

And then he offered me three grand and I

said, you know what, why not?

And he collected it two or three days later.

And I was actually, I had that thing where

you, when you sell a car and I went through

loads of the details, he knew about the car,

but I went through everything.

And as I was going through the details,

I thought, God, I spent so much time on this car.

Why am I selling it?

I spent well over 10,000 pounds on that car.

I sold it for three.

It's a tough one.

It's investment advice is not what you're here for.

No.

is not the place to come from.

But other than that, it's, well,

actually, I don't actually know why it's a rule.

I don't have my McGahn back yet.

My Clio is gone.

Well, we've bought something.

Oh, yeah.

And that is also quite ruined.

It's, well, not yet.

But it could be.

It could be.

It really could be.

Do you want to tell me about it?

We bought V10.

We bought the Wells Only, turbocharged V10.

I won't go on any longer.

It's an Audi RS6.

It is.

Which is, if you don't know,

one of the scariest prospects for ownership,

you will ever come across in a vehicle.

Yes, they might be cheap.

And ours is exceptional cheap.

The video is coming soon.

But God's

3:06 Audi RS6 Purchase and Maintenance Concerns

there.

Just don't Google it.

Don't.

We Googled it.

And we're now, we live in fear.

Yeah.

Basically, everything requires an engine out job.

An engine out job is 40 hours of labor.

We thought it was a, we asked Chet GPT and it

told us that.

And we were like, yeah, pull the other one Chet GPT.

No, we then spoke to our performance.

And they said, yeah, no, we get that way down.

We get that on to like 30.

30 hours, days and days, that's a week-ish,

it's not week, but you know,

for us, that's, that will be a week.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We're getting it out well into a week just to

get it out.

So you're just going to leave it in and drive

it as is.

Drive it as is because it's in great condition.

Great condition.

Great condition.

And what is your Rule or Ruin?

I, it's been a week of ups and downs.

Okay.

But I'm in rule.

Firstly, for the first reason,

I before, I can't remember if I mentioned it

on the last podcast, but I had it.

a track day booked and I was going to go in

my M3, which makes the logical sense.

You know, M3s they are used on track all the time.

You know, they're, they're good fun.

I've driven mine on one before.

Perfect idea.

So what I did was I brought my 100

horsepower, three on six I instead.

So I took that and I had to drive it up to

Anglesie, which is a four hour,

45 minute journey away.

Luckily I had some friends there.

So went up with, with some friends,

it was fine on the way up.

I am proceeded to beat the ever loving piss

out of this car.

Manybody else was there.

You would have seen me Scandinavian flicking

it into corners, because that was the only

way I could get it to do anything.

But it was incredible fun.

And then right on the last lap,

I was with my friend in the car and we were being dumb.

And I was literally, I was, I was going,

and we're gonna go hard into that.

And as I said that, I heard,

boom, boom, boom.

And we both looked at each other and went,

that's a, that was weird.

What was that noise?

At the moment I touched the accelerator,

I heard an earth shattering metal clunk from the back.

And so I just put it in neutral and rolled

into the pits.

And again, it made the noise.

And I said to go have a look underneath the

back of the car.

And yeah, the whole diff was just smacking the subframe.

Because one of the diff mounts had just fallen out.

It disintegrated and just, you know,

vaporized.

So I went around the pits going to anybody

that had a BMW and said, mate,

do you have interest?

Do you have any 36 differential bush?

You need those.

And obviously no one did, but the next day we

got it fixed and got it back up and working.

But I'm very pleased.

I'm glad I did one track day with this original engine.

It may now get the new engine.

He's signed off.

He's done his work.

But there is another

piece of information.

You know about this, everyone around here

knows about it.

So I won't stop talking about it.

But there is a development on the Ferrari front.

You see, we were talking in the last episodes

about wanting a Ferrari, a 550 Maranello,

I wanted one that was crashed.

And I said, hopefully we put the video out.

And someone happens to comment who has a crashed one.

Full well-knowing, no one's doing that.

And yet, a man called Jeremy commented,

not JC commented on the video and said,

yeah, I've got a crashed one in France,

I'm recorded, it's been sick for three years.

And I looked at it and I was like,

nah, there's no way.

Scam, skier.

I saw a reply and said send an email.

But he sent me the photo, which was his

profile photo, which is this,

which is a conveniently cropped.

It's quite conveniently cropped.

But you can see there's some damage on a

Ferrari 550 Maranello, asked him for some more detail.

He literally responded to the email with that photo.

And a full photo of the V5, with the whole

number as well.

So I could just transfer it.

So it's your car now.

And it just said, you can contact me here.

That was it.

That was the only message.

I've replied and Ben, we were in the car multiple times.

I was getting, I replied, I gave him like five days.

He hadn't responded.

He was like, what's going on,

man?

What's happening with the car?

And he finally responded and gave me some

more information.

It sent me another photo.

It's not looking good, bro.

Oh, and that's oil.

That's, that is oil and coolant and everything.

That's quite a crashed Ferrari.

Dip is aimed way too high.

So yeah, for those of you that can't see,

it is a quite well-crashed Ferrari 550.

It's in France.

It's still there.

He is still, it was crashed two years ago and

is still going through insurance at the

moment, trying to get them to pay out on it

because it's UK registered in France.

But I'm speaking to him and in the middle of

trying to work out how I could sell my family

members, Ben is up for sale,

by the way.

I have a very good deal.

I've got him on sale or return.

He's

going to.

No, no returns.

No.

No returns.

No.

29, 28.

A little bit scavenging.

Yeah.

A little bit of YouTube trickery.

A little bit of my girlfriend literally said

I could go and crash into one in the UK for

you to get written off.

I said, that's not really how that works.

You'd have to like run to like Sicily or

something for a year.

And then come back afterwards.

There's no extradition over there.

Yeah.

So you can't do that.

Okay.

Well, that is exciting.

It is very exciting.

I'm excited at just getting photos over email.

Jeremy, if you're listening,

big shout out.

Come on.

Let's get this deal going, shall we?

Benjamin?

Hi.

Ruin for

8:35 Ben's X5 Maintenance and Clio Overheating Issues

me.

Okay.

I'm just dealing with cars.

It's not actually that big of a deal.

I'm just doing maintenance bits on the X5,

Tada wheel bearing.

So I hope so.

I will not die on them that way.

Excuse me.

And the Clio, I think I mentioned last night

how it was overheating.

So I did some more testing.

Have we talked about that?

Yes.

Yeah.

It overheated, but I said I hadn't touched it since.

Oh, there he is.

That was when it was good.

Look at that.

Yeah.

You took it to the track there.

You had lots of fun.

Great fun.

And now- Ever since then, that was in June,

June the 20th, something like that.

And now it's- I haven't driven it since.

So it's gone off.

It's had its belt work done,

which needed was just maintenance.

It didn't need- Okay.

That didn't need it because of the track there.

And now it has, you know, it's not suspension

issues, but it feels very loose.

Gearbox issues.

Gearbox issues.

Now, Ben,

I'm just going to suggest something with that.

I suggest issues.

What say you to one night taking the trailer

and the Tokar home?

Oh, God.

here.

I don't know if you know, but we have like an

automotive podcast and a YouTube channel.

To two of them, in fact.

Do it.

That we make content on sort of like fixing cars.

You actually have to talk about it.

What would I do?

I actually think of this one.

I may have featured it in a very popular video.

Roughly a million people.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Yeah.

So if you want, you know, we're more than

happy to feature it.

It might be that to be fair because the poor

guy is not happy.

Is that you?

Yes.

So how do we hear you?

I did some investigation work.

It's a way of one.

It's a way of one for sure.

So y'all are in colon, but you don't know

where it's done.

Okay.

So I mean, we're quite very privileged to

walk you through it.

Okay.

Drove the car, hand it over by a month.

It came from getting the belts done and it

needs alignment really badly.

So we went to America.

Loads of stuff was happy.

I've been very busy.

So I just left it.

Been sat there, whatever.

I don't mean one of my good friends were

like, let's go for a little,

little, little, little blast,

you know.

And we went out, I got possibly a mile from my house.

It got a little bit overheated,

which was very weird.

And I was like, that's odd.

Looked at it, nothing leaking.

Cool.

Got quite annoyed at the car.

Went back down the road and parked it at my house.

When you say overheated, it got hot or it

went all the way through.

I didn't let it be, it would have done.

It would have gone, yeah, yeah.

I didn't let it, it got to, I don't know,

call it the orange.

It got to hot.

It doesn't have like a color thing,

but if it was, it would be the orange,

not the red.

But it would have gone to the red.

Anyway, parked it up.

Cool.

No worries.

I'll ignore this for like a week now.

A week later is the weekend again.

And I was like, okay, cool.

And I have a look at this car.

Went to look in the engine bay.

There was no cool in the engine bay.

Well, there was a bit, but like a lot less

than what was in there by fault.

That's great.

So I put it to my driveway and I spent the

next hour just, just investigating.

And I don't know much about anything.

But now one question I can't remember asking.

Yes.

I think Edwin did ask this and we'll get on

to fan related issues just after this.

Does the fan come on?

No.

Okay.

So maybe you might just have a dicky fan.

But here's where it gets weird.

So a twist.

So I spent a while looking at it,

checking whether, you know, different cool

pipes were getting hot, really investigation.

The reservoir, no longer pressurizes,

which is kind of weird, but and there's no,

it doesn't get hot in there.

But then a lot of other lines get hot and the

engine now doesn't overheat.

I've re-filled it with coolant.

I've driven it and it doesn't overheat.

Okay.

So you think, okay, maybe it's fixed itself.

New issue.

He's French.

Give him, bless him.

Of course.

It now only fires hot air into the car,

no matter what.

16 degrees on the climate control.

That's hot, hot air.

Okay.

There's that.

And now also, so all that happens.

I was like, cool.

I don't have to just take the specialist

client or clear anything.

And then I looked at it about another week

later and all the coolant was still in the car.

So something's going on and I don't know.

And these two thought it was a head gasket

and it may well could be.

It should not be now.

Because we were teasing, but it's not.

It has no other symptoms.

And also, because people are going to go,

okay, heat to matrix, but there's no water in the car.

No, nothing leaking to the car.

There are two pipes that go into the cabin,

which is obviously where that is,

but those didn't seem wet.

They look, also, the worrying thing about the

whole car is that all of the coolant lines

kind of new, not brand new, but they're not.

They're all silicone.

Yeah, they're upgraded guys.

I see each tenant track car.

I think that's the solution.

Well, it's gone to a specialist now,

'cause I don't, I don't.

And I told him the issue and he started laughing.

Well, that's tough.

That's never good.

Not laughing like, haha, look at it,

but that's not like, oh, that's a fun one to deal with.

To be fair, he touched part of the coolant

lines when he was doing the gearbox,

right?

So the only thing that obviously it's had,

it's had the belts done and it had water pump change.

So you can blame him, man.

I said to him on the phone, I said to him,

I was like, can you check the water pump?

And he said, he's never known one to go,

because it's a brand new OEM part.

I said, just give him a check.

But it would be, doesn't make any sense

because the engine doesn't overheat.

So surely the water's getting pumped around the engine.

Yeah, it's very strange.

And then, yeah, so then, I'll go back on

Monday, it was quite funny.

Well, we're gonna, that was yesterday,

it's Tuesday.

I almost couldn't come in today because I was

on the phone with the specialist for the X5

being like, please, can you finish this car quickly?

And I just thought, you know,

if you've got two cars, there should never be

a time where you don't have a car and it almost happened.

It always happens.

It's great.

It always happens.

It's great.

So, so, a ruin overall.

Oh yeah, a big ruin.

Sorry, I was a bit of a long-winded one,

but yeah.

No, okay, that's fine.

I think you're doing a change.

Yeah.

Yeah, but you can't shift a dead car.

You can.

You can.

I did.

Will's just a hand, just did it.

Yeah.

At the great expense.

Although, I will say, do you know what?

I will mention this, Ben, and you won't like this.

I sold that car to Taylor.

But what I think is actually a very,

very good price.

Well, here we go.

You need a couple of bits sorted.

I told Ben about this.

What did Ben say?

Now Ben, I'm gonna be the impartial judge

here, because I heard the word,

and Ben claims to have not said the word.

Ben said, "Oh, I would have bought

it from you for that."

Okay, now may the defense please make their case.

Please, after you.

So I didn't say that.

Okay, now, just as a sidebar quickly,

that doesn't tend to work in court.

You're on a nut, R.

Well, I did do nothing.

I did do nothing.

Will said, I sold it for, I said,

I should sell it clear for.

Thinking six, seven grand, he's better.

He spent 30, 40,000 pounds.

He spent 11,000 pounds in the car.

I thought maybe he'd not lose that much,

so I will.

He goes three grand and I said,

wow, even for that price, I might have considered it.

No, no, no, no.

I said Ben, I don't represent it.

They'll represent these little mites and

maybes and some maybes.

They should have cut her wooders.

He is the master gaslighter.

Any of you, any of you in the comments that

go, "Oh, you're so mean to Ben."

Ben is the manipulator.

He's done that with the strings.

But you have done that multiple times before,

you go, "No, I didn't say that."

And we get proof and it's clear as they say.

No, that's not proof.

I could put CCTV in this unit,

fine.

And you better keep that shit up.

That's the cream live cast.

Wait, no, I said might have.

No, no, you literally said to me,

which is why it surprised me so much,

is you said, "I would have bought that from you."

And I said to you, on the spot,

I said, "No, have I offered it to you?"

You would have said, "No."

You bought it and you said, "Yeah,

you would have said no."

There's no way.

Hang on, this is what happens though.

So in this scenario, it's actually no one

knows just right, 'cause these guys don't know.

And I technically don't know,

'cause we have a point of contention here,

okay?

But the thing is, hang on.

No, you two sit there and you go--

I'm gonna make a point here.

No, I'm not saying--

You go, you go, I'll say it right,

as if this is what I believe.

And you go, this is what I believe,

but also this is correct.

No, but what I'm saying is I have no horse in this race.

I have no reason to lie.

I heard, what I heard.

And it was you saying, I'd have bought it for you.

I used to have never met you if it was.

It was a fairly close, call to this conversation.

It wasn't, Edwin wasn't in another room.

I wasn't back at home.

Hold on, I hear it.

There's Ben speaking about buying cars.

I said buy to him as words.

I'm not a manipulator.

(laughing)

16:22 News Segment - McLaren Collection Sale

I believe I said that.

That's fine.

I believe I said that.

I don't want you to twist this narrative.

(laughing)

You don't agree with the secret.

You know what, you're just, you're big media.

You are.

You're big news.

You're big news.

Run the fake stories.

Shall we do some news?

Let's do some news.

We've got, we actually have news.

We, there are news.

Ben has been absolutely slinging news at us.

That I didn't even know about.

Ben, you are quite the liar.

Slinging a bird.

Shall we start off with, wait,

hold on.

Is this just information of the week?

I think this is information.

Lovely.

You are, in fact.

More 'cause also, I've just been called a

manipulator in front of thousands of people.

I'm excited to not lie now.

It's actually tens of thousands of people.

Wow, okay.

Wow, okay.

No popular podcast.

McLaren collection we spoke about.

Yes.

OJ?

Mansour OJ's collection.

Which is mostly one color.

Yes, I will be honest, when we first talked

about this, I hadn't realized that he'd

passed away, hence why he was selling for collection.

Well, he wasn't.

But yeah, the news is that the entire

collection was bought by one person.

Was it a rose?

I heard $75 million.

I think something around that,

that is absolutely crazy.

Oh, great.

Is you listening?

And that was you.

Can we have a go?

Come forward and say, was that true?

Listen, check out TDC Car Park.

But there's an RS6 in there,

I'm scared of.

So yeah, there it is.

But that is, I keep hearing about this more

and more, but only in the last like five,

10 years, is that I think cars among the

super elite are becoming more and more

fashionable or whatever you wanna call it,

because it's the same thing with that S1LM,

the Gordon-Marie thing, the same collector

bought all five S1Ms.

Now a lot of people, I saw a lot of people

being like, oh, so selfish, he commissioned them.

It's not like Gordon-Marie made them.

And one guy walked in and went,

I'll have them all.

It's not like people rushing into Tesco

buying all the PS5s and then putting them on eBay.

Yeah, he said, make the PS5 for me,

I'll buy it.

It wasn't anything from the trolley there.

It was, I'll make you make the trolley and

then I'll have the entire lot on that

brunette,

My energy, I think.

Yeah, exactly.

Make me this, I'll take them all.

So, but that, that is kind of crazy.

Also, it kind of feels like cheating.

Although commissioning five is a bit odd.

It is a bit odd, 'cause that's what makes it sound like.

We made five, one man bought them all,

'cause then you got the last bit itself.

Yeah.

If someone made, said, I've commissioned it,

but you can just make me one.

Well, I assume it is because there were five F1LMs.

Ah.

So, which people problems?

Yeah, exactly.

Look, there are five F1LMs, so you're gonna,

ah.

It's gonna have to be a five meringue.

Oh no.

What?

And you're gonna pay what?

Oh, is it that much?

Okay, all right.

All of the bread in the world.

All right, okay, we'll do that.

Completely understandable.

Should be some change left on that one.

Meanwhile, one and a half McLaren F1s.

So yeah, whoever's got that collection,

top stuff, I would like to see some of them

being out and about driven, not just that.

Partly looks at it, right, and says,

now, I'm the expert.

But I'm not saving $75 million in there.

I know a big chunk of that's the F1.

Yeah, big chunk.

I'm looking at the rest of it.

Some of this is, it's in the,

it's in, you know.

It's all like poor people territory of 100.

Thousands of dollars.

Yeah, how many of those things there are a million?

Well, what is, so.

It's retail a million or two.

Yeah.

I don't know an Elver, I don't know how much those are.

Now, Speedtail, there was one for sale at RM

when we went there, which was like three million.

No, it didn't sell for that much.

No.

It sold real low on its estimate.

Okay, okay.

If it was in pounds, I think it would start

with a one.

Didn't it also have like four miles?

Yeah, I would assume these will have the same.

Let's say that's two million.

This is Sabre.

Sabre.

Sabre, yeah.

I don't know what that actually is.

But call it two, call all of them two.

So I'm comparing this.

It's 25.

Now, the McLaren F1, the thing is they trade

behind closed doors.

So people believe there are 25 million

pounds/dollar car, but there are definitely

ones trading for far more than that behind closed doors.

So the P1 is what, two or three mil now?

Yeah, probably.

But interesting.

I guess also, whatever the cost is,

you don't have to add the tax off.

He is part of McLaren.

These cars are the only ones in the world

that have his name on it, as opposed to

McLaren badge, whatever.

That you pay more because it's the collection.

Wait, you can buy the whole collection.

But in theory, that should be at this count.

Surely I'm helping you.

It's like Costco.

It's like Costco.

Yeah, it's Costco.

Why am I buying from Alibaba?

Going into Costco, they go, you have 100

paper plates, well, because you're buying a

hundred, that'll be 600,000 pounds,

as opposed to 20 PE for one.

And then you buy those and they go,

"Oh, blow it till it goes to 50."

No, I didn't look that out.

But they go, "But you can have a hot dog."

So, you're like, "I'm there,

if it's a Costco hot dog, I'll pay 75 mil."

Just the F one will do.

Yeah, just the F one.

Always the F one.

I X3, I'm gonna assume that's not news,

is

that a story.

No, I shouldn't, that's a news,

Mike.

That's a news, Mike.

That's a news, Mike.

That's a new car.

Edwin, the new class, is that what's called a

Noyer

class?

So, this is the new I X3, it is the production one.

I think we mentioned it a while ago,

'cause it has a horrible steering wheel,

but this is now the production guy,

and it's the first Noyer class the new design

era for BMW, the reinvention,

and it is

horrible.

Now, at the first, I thought,

you know what, I could probably get used to

the front end, but I've just seen the rear,

and I'm not getting used to that,

that is, could you, do you know what,

that is like someone has sliced the new M5

down the middle, and then just shut,

you know, when you slice a cake,

and then you shuffle it together,

that's what they look like.

Why has the badge got like a nose?

Yeah, it really does.

It's so weird.

Now, there is a someone who is American,

at home, who is watching, for those of you

who are watching, have a look at the car up,

but he's a really not great looking car.

There is a Lincoln from the early 2000s that

shares that sort of rare end,

and looks horrible.

What has he got the mother of all diffusers on it?

This, what is this?

Why is it electric?

Why is it going to Le Mans, but it's diffuser?

It's electric, so it's probably got a better

aero, you know?

Oh yeah, it's got, you know,

it's got to keep that weight off the ground,

you know, yeah.

(laughs)

Now tell me, but that isn't a derivative.

It's a game, arse-feeding fish family.

That is tough.

That is a tough looking car.

Can we get an interior shot if possible?

Oh please, please offer me.

As far as I'm aware, the steering wheel we

mentioned before, which for listeners,

is imagine a two-spoke steering wheel,

i.e.

where your hands are, there's two spokes,

it's got one at the 12 o'clock mark and one

at the six o'clock mark, so it's like a

cross, and I hate it, it looks stupid.

So it's literally what they did in the 90s,

but instead of, they've taken a steering

wheel from the 90s and turned it in 90 degrees.

That screen, why is it, why can't it be square?

Why is it got to be, what shape is that?

There's a trapezoid?

A trapezium.

I don't, I don't think that's the six o'clock mark.

The steering wheel I don't mind,

I quite like the center console thing,

because it's very simple.

But why is the screen falling over?

And then you've got another screen at the top there.

A parallelogram.

A parallelogram.

Oh, it's got a hybrid, it's got a Nissan,

not Nissan, it's got a Prius-esque scream

thing over on the dashboard like that.

God, what's going on anymore?

Honestly, BMW looks that and went,

this is our new design.

This is what we're gonna base everything off

of, and God help you.

Yeah, I still like the three series thing,

even with those long lights,

but the new M3 thing we can tease with that.

I like that, I think that can be cool,

but if they run them out like this,

it's gonna be an XM season where everyone

looks at them and goes, you get rid of a big

scream, I think my interior would be all right.

Yeah.

Oh well, another common L for BMW in 2025.

Increasingly more so.

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There are four pages worth of that.

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Because they do so many parts for cars.

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We do need to try that out.

I've done parts on mine again on French cars,

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So thank you very much, Phoebe Billstein,

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We will move on to something,

apparently, equally as ugly.

I haven't seen it yet.

Ben has put horrible new Clio.

Now, I actually saw some comments about this.

This is the new Renault Clio about it.

People like in the design.

horrible.

That is a new Renault Clio.

That is a Mazda 3.

Now, what I'm, so you told me about this,

I, as in just before this podcast,

so I could pull the photos up.

For those of you that don't know,

it looks, it does not look Renault at all,

but I think, I mean, let me check it now.

I feel like it's actually a badge engineered

like Nissan Pulsar or something.

I might be wrong.

Other than you might, perhaps.

I'll say that rear end is coming like a,

yeah, whatever that, or like a,

one of the Nissan's.

They've also, I have got a car comparison.

I thought of I saw it.

What does that front end remind me of?

It's nose.

It's, yeah, there's something,

so for those of you that can't see,

it's kind of like a BMW has been mixed with a

Nissan mixed

with a, just, it's all different car

manufacturers rolled

into one.

It's quite weird.

It's slightly over-designed.

I

don't think it's that, the generation before,

well, I think it's the generation before,

the Mark IV Clio.

I don't think it was a good looking car anyway.

I think that looks slightly slightly,

it's no worse than that, but at the front

end, it's far too busy.

I don't mean to be rude, but I've just gone

on to YouTube and it said the world premiere

of the new Renault Clio.

And this is from Group Renault on YouTube.

The video has 12,000 views and zero comments.

Oh, no comments.

It was streamed live last night at about 6 p.m.

That's how many people care about this stuff now.

Just no one cares.

That's really tough.

If they're going to come out with a spicy

one, then fair.

But they're not, are they?

It's going to be an Alpine

version that's fully electric and has 8,000

horsepower

weighs 1.8 tons and no one's going to care.

It's directly into the grill.

But it's like they've gone, like you said,

they've just said, right, I like all these

designs, mash it all into one.

France, that's not your vibe.

What's going on?

So I've just looked it up and indeed it is

part of the CMF CD platform,

which has basically, it is Nissan and Renault together.

It is what everything is based on now.

The Aspass, the Carjar, the Talisman,

the Mégane, the Collios, the Scenic,

the old Strelman.

Yes.

The Spass, the next the Spass,

the Rafale, the Cangu.

Seast.

This was 2015 until 2023, the Aspass yet,

2023 until present.

And then it's also the Extrail,

Polsar, the Centra, the Extrail,

the Cashco, the Townsar, Townstar,

sorry.

The Outlander and the Mercedes-Benz Cytan.

What the hell?

It's all on the Cytan as a van type.

Yeah.

All of these cars are on the same,

so I assume this is kind of related then to

the new micro.

And another shocking set of wheels on it as well.

Yeah.

Now, one thing I'm going to say is,

when Renault has just brought back the five

in the way that they've brought it back,

that cool-looking retro thing,

you can't get away with this anymore.

No.

That is lazium boring.

Yeah.

You've done a bad job on that.

I know that it'll be like, eh,

it's fresh and cool, but I don't know where that is.

I really hate when this is my last point on

this, but it's just reminded me.

Yeah, it's a five-door, which I'm assuming

it'll be another case of eating only by the

five-door stupid.

rear quarter thing, and then you just look

like everyone very short doors.

Yeah, it never looks like a three-door would

have actual long doors.

It would kind of be further back.

So why would you do that?

Just put a handle there.

We all know it's there.

I know it's demand and it's because less

people wanted them probably,

but five doors look like ass.

Yeah.

But I guess they just want to sell cars.

Yeah.

They don't care about that.

They don't want a feature on the cream podcast.

I mean, yeah, it looks nice.

It's a problem.

If that's built on the same platform was

Nissan, Nissan is built their micro on the

Renault 5, haven't they?

That's what that's based on.

Oh, it's the other way around.

I don't know.

No, I think so.

The Renault 5 and the micro are together.

But then Renault is part of Nissan.

Yo, we could all be making something good.

We could be doing lots of things.

We could get, imagine, imagine,

right, close your eyes.

Imagine the Renault 5, the new one,

Ben's gone to sleep.

The new Renault 5, right, as it is to the old Renault 5.

Yeah.

So the new Renault 5, is a retro version,

retro modern.

Now imagine the new Renault Clio is a retro

version of the Mark 1 Williams.

Oh, all boxy.

But would you care if it was an electric?

Maybe not, I would.

I would care.

I mean, I would care.

I think it's still be cool.

I'm kind of asleep, Ben.

And you're back in the room.

What else have we got?

Slightly more interesting news.

Well, at least for possibly some,

992.2 turbo gas.

Oh, this is cool.

Now, Ben, you are the resident Porsche

commander among us.

Please don't lie.

So Porsche have announced the newest variant

of the Turbo S, the quick, quick boy.

I have some specs here.

Here we go.

Now, I've just got the seven.

I'm pretty sure I heard something.

It's 702.

The design is more that of a Gen 1 and 991.1,

Turbo S.

For those of, for those people that don't

speak Porsche out there, what's that mean?

That means will.

13-ish, that sort of time.

It looks like that.

So it looks like a better design sort of evolution.

However, I think in this design they've done

now makes the front end look higher.

So if you look at that versus the pre

facelift, the front end looks higher and I

think it looks less aggressive.

Now, Ben, I have for a very long time been in

the camp of not all Porsches look the same,

but I'm starting to struggle because if you

showed me that and just told me that was the

new 911, I'd go, sure it is.

But I can tell that it's got these fish gills

on the front bumper.

Maybe I'd spot that.

Otherwise, I'm starting to really struggle.

If you look at a 992 to burst versus that,

you'll be able to have a difference.

No, no, no, no, no.

Now, this is similarly related,

but you're going into now these details,

this is a lot different.

Hang on, we'll get to that.

Can I just list specs first?

Before you attack me, can I please?

So they're now hybrids, but in the way that

hybrid should be, which is helping your

turbos be better and there's no like,

yeah, you can see that.

That's just, okay, the bump.

It's a different from rubber.

But you see how the new one,

the front end is, it looks higher up.

Give me number, give me number.

Seven hundred and one horsepower.

That's nice.

Not 16, 2.3.

That's quick.

Sorry.

2.3.

It did a seven minute and three seconds of

nerve agreeing, which is 14 seconds quicker

than the last one.

What?

The 992.

Just 0.1.

It's hybrid as in hybrid, it has an electric

motor assisting one.

Yeah, it's also something.

Well, I think it's also for the turbos

helping them spool up.

They have electric turbos anyway,

right?

Yeah, 'cause that's you did that over.

Oh, great, well, I don't know anything then.

A bit of misinformation.

Good boy, that's one.

It's hybrid in the good way.

It's not a plug in that might be actually,

but you don't have to plug it in.

I don't know.

What I mean is that the hybrid is there for

performance to enhance it.

Yeah, it's not a Prius.

Ben's a magpie.

Ben sees all shiny and then puts it in the forecast.

Actually, there wasn't that shiny.

Now, please Will, let's get on to something

you would just think about.

Just before I forget, because Ben has tried

to cover that one up.

So Ben is telling me that that is a

completely different car because of--

The gills on the front.

The gills mean it's the 0.2 variant.

(car engine revving)

This is how I saw it all week.

The C6 RS6 that we have just purchased.

We're going over some details on this.

Some quirks and features.

Yes.

And one of them that I remembered from many

years ago is that the headlights,

or at least the side lights,

and date on running lights on an RS6,

have 10 LEDs in each headlight.

And the only way you can have 10 LEDs in the

headlight is if you have an S6 or an RS6,

10 lights indicating you have 10 cylinders in your end.

Oh, that's amazing.

And Ben lost his rag.

He went aching.

I actually haven't seen--

Something triggered Ben, that annoyed by

something so innate.

No, I hate the, it's the design jargon.

It doesn't mean anything.

You've just injected meaning into it.

Now, that's a better design.

I think that's better, but you know what you do?

You just make it look better.

You haven't got to justify and go,

"Well, the wheels have two more spokes

because my grandmother's "a second favorite

cup of tea was an "oh, grey tea."

But what's the name of that?

No, no, but it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

They're saying like, "We need to make the

headlights look different."

And again, what I like about that is it's

attention from detail.

It's not.

You don't have to, didn't they have to change

your headlights at all?

No, it's not.

They didn't have to change your headlights at all.

But they did.

So do you think feature that indicates this

is the feature?

So do you believe it was random?

Do you believe-- someone drew it and then

went, God, what does that mean?

Yeah, I do.

I believe--

What I'm telling you, Ben, is that you've

never met someone who's into design because

as someone who knows someone,

they will find something for everything.

Everything has a meaning.

It really does to them.

That is a, they went, I'm gonna draw some

extra dots down here for some reason.

If they're more aggressive and then they did

that and they went, oh, I'll tell you what,

I'm gonna make it give it 10 'cause the

engine's got 10 cylinders.

That is a crazy German accent.

So you're like 10 and it's the same amount of cylinders.

I don't know what it means.

It just annoyed me.

Not annoyed me.

I just don't understand it.

You went, you went, you basically,

you actually got quite violent at the time.

I think this may have been just a

conversation we had.

I mean, we were shutting the windows and we

had to sort of--

No, I don't like it.

I don't like it.

We had to give you some distance for a while.

But it doesn't, you were red in the face.

Not everything like that has to have meaning.

I don't understand why--

I don't understand.

But that does.

Why though?

It's LEDs on a headlight.

It's because of the amount of cylinders.

Just say you want a 10 'cause it look cool.

But why would it be 10?

That's my question to you.

Why would it be 30?

Because it's a V10.

Because they would have--

It's a design thing.

It's nothing to do with a V10.

They probably inject the meaning to it

afterwards, what I'm saying.

No, I don't think it's true at all.

But I think it's, I'm gonna draw this and

then they went, oh, it's kind of like a engine.

The designer of the Audi R6,

C6.

Step forward.

I'm happy to be wrong on this,

but I think, well, they'll just claim that

they did from the start.

The brand that designed the X5 and the mini

needs his royal.

I'm gonna start by blowing up Ben and his tiny mind.

There'll be so many comments being like,

being like, on your guys' side,

that's fine, I'm happy to have my opinion.

I agree, a lot of car designs talk is absolute.

Joy is a remnant of JAG, past what it got to me.

Yeah, because the new JAG is reminiscent of

the sky, which shows the infinite possibilities.

That's what I mean.

It's stupid.

It's stupid.

It's stupid.

But that's not the same as, okay,

all right, we'll agree to disagree that you

are completely and absolutely wrong.

I'm not wrong, I'm not denying it's a cool feature.

It's also, it's such a minor point.

Also, these two have subs, that one said it,

they both start, but they don't sort of dang

up on me.

We were excited by it, we went,

"Ah, that's cool."

That's not cool.

It's just stupid.

Yeah, I want to do that, that's just wrong.

I wouldn't say we came up with you,

we were more confused, 'cause you were so

angry about it.

I wasn't angry, I was, I said,

I don't like that, really.

Sorry, and then you turned on me and it became quiet.

Gaslighting Ben is back.

Surely we have the raw footage.

If we have the raw footage, I'm going through it.

No, I think actually, the Ben will have cut that.

No, I actually think we do have that footage.

I'm at my laptop right now, in the background

and I'll find it, no.

Would you like to move on?

Would you like to redeem yourself?

I'm not gaslighting you, man.

Would you like to redeem yourself?

Cool.

Right, can you please tell me about the SF90 replacement?

Ooh, that was meant to be announced today.

I put it in there, 'cause I saw it was being

announced today.

Well, how about--

So we can have a live look.

Okay, I'm gonna do that right now.

Let's talk about it.

You talk about--

So SF90 is the--

It's not flagship, is it?

It's the sort of flagship flagship.

I think it was Ferrari.

It's not the--

It's not horsepower hybrid Ferrari.

It's been out for a few years.

I thought it was brand new to me.

I don't understand Ferrari at all.

Nothing has been announced there

is a new-- (laughing)

Okay.

So there's meant to be a replacement for the SF90.

Is that correct?

I'm deleting all my groceries.

There's no point in me.

C-E-S-T, which is--

Is that central time?

That's like three days.

This isn't an hour.

Is it an hour?

No, it's a no, C-E-S-T.

It is in three minutes.

All right, so if we keep talking about it for

three minutes-- (laughing)

So the SF90--

So the SF90.

So the SF90.

So the SF90 right now.

What does the red represent on the SF90?

Well, that's my favorite meat is pepperonis.

And because of that, I've made my car red.

Well, actually what I did was I colored it in red.

38:53 Ferrari 849 Testerosa Reveal Reaction

Mm, interesting.

Okay.

Now, do you know what the stems from?

The stems from Ben not dreaming?

That's fair.

Well, well, well, if Ben-- You know what,

I've just clicked on Ferrari's YouTube

channel and we have got a video named,

"Welcome."

Now, this is quite big news.

Everybody's watched this.

I've found this out weeks ago.

Welcome, the Ferrari 849 Testerossa.

Whoa!

Now, this is quite cool.

So is that Testerossa with a space?

No, it's altogether.

Now, didn't they have to get that name back?

I believe so because the owner of that was a

model car company because there was something

around that they hadn't used it in so many years.

Yes.

So the name kind of became open season.

Correct.

But you can't just go, "I'm gonna have the

name test forever, but I'm not gonna do

anything with it."

So I'm gonna click play.

This is our genuine live reaction to this.

Oh, for our fried swallow, you know,

this falls under fair use, we're reacting to it.

Yeah, we're reacting to it.

There's gonna be two faces in the corner.

Now, what we're talking about here,

okay, so this is a 296 replacement,

so I'm gonna assume it's gonna be based on

the same thing.

Wait, no, no, it's an SF90.

Oh, SF90 apologies.

Please accept my apologies on this as well.

I think as well.

What have we got?

Now, for the--

Oh, I like that.

Do you like that?

It's a small--

This is a small SP3/F80.

Oh, it looks like an F40.

Oh, okay, okay.

If it's got a V6, I'm gonna swing.

It will hit

so surely.

No, but SF90 didn't, right?

Well, can you use the end to see the funnel reveal?

I don't like any of this.

I just wanna see the car.

Oh, it's the same interior that was--

I like that a lot.

It's sort of 308.

I really like that.

That is cool.

No, this is cool.

I like the shape of it.

I like everything, but I don't like the monobrow.

It's got--

You don't like that?

I don't like that.

It looks like it's frowning,

this is going--

The Ferrari A49, I'm pulling up on Ferrari's

doorstep to get some information.

I'm gonna say it's got a V6.

It has got a V8.

It has got a max power output of 1,050 CV,

which is, I think in PS like 900--

It's about the same as the SF90.

It is not 60 in 2.3 seconds.

Oh, convenient, but it has a convenient

number just after the turbo S come out.

2.3.

That was 2.5 years ago.

Yesterday, the turbo S came out and it went,

changed.

Why in the name of all that is holy?

Have you how old

that?

Why have you made that?

I like that a lot.

Wait,

why is that a V8?

And your flagship multi-million pound cut

is a V6.

Yeah, that's crazy.

That's baffling.

That's

really, really crazy.

Now, oh, I like this a lot.

Now, I know this is gonna be a little bit old

hat to a lot of you

listening.

You might've heard this, you might've seen it

on Instagram right now, but this came out

three minutes ago.

For us, so I'm not a fan of that spec,

but that is a bit, it's a little bit

slab-sided, I think.

Yeah, he doesn't have any--

Yeah, look at that, that's just a line up the side.

Also, that's just an SF-90, that roof line.

What about an SF-90?

What it needs, for those of you listening,

if you haven't seen it yet, it does look a

little bit tester-osiery, but more with like

a 458 roof, so it's kind of a slippy down

roof, but it doesn't have the strikes up the side.

That, I think, is what's missing for that,

'cause the SP3 Daytona does have that.

Does have that, yeah.

But I, oh, I think that's good.

That's good, cool.

I think that's good.

It's mini, it's mini F-A-T/SP3,

I think is a good thing.

But again, the sides of it, I don't know why

that is, you're very right, that is just a

block on the side.

And perhaps there's a reason for that,

and the flat door represents the flat plane

that you can drive at 300,000 miles an hour.

Yeah, it represents the flat V12,

which is in the tester on this car,

but was?

Man, I had a pen and thought I'm gonna draw this.

He was bored and Italian and couldn't be

bothered to design anything at all.

Yeah, I'm gonna be real.

I don't like this.

The tester or some name, I don't think belongs here.

I can kind of agree, but I do like this.

I think this is cool.

Do you know what, retire the jersey?

Fair, which they did, to be fair,

for a long time.

I don't like, I don't like, it joys.

That's GTA Ferrari.

I kind of, from the front.

I kind of understand it, but I like that.

I like that.

I don't.

Ben.

I like the shape of it, I like the rear of

it, but that front, that's weird.

We've breaking news on the cream podcast.

We need to get one of those singers that

rolls across the screen.

Breaking news.

Just in the 849 is called the Testeros and

we're going to get more from Edwin here.

Okay, I like it, it looks nice,

but I think calling it a Testeros and not

having, also very,

The design elements of it.

Because for those of you listening and you

can't see, we have Outrun 2 Coast to Coast on the screen.

We've got Ferraris Galore.

Do you have any more information on the 911

Turbo that I should know about?

You didn't care enough.

Lovely, on we go, is it just that you don't know?

Very fast, very cool, very fast.

Or more expensive.

You're not, Ben's Car Reviews.

Very fast, very cool.

Moving on, I like one.

Do we have, should we get onto some anecdotes?

We've got a lot of news there.

We've got a lot of news and the first one

you've put in here, anecdotes-wise.

Can I, just 'cause I have it on my screen and

it keeps making me laugh, I just need to get

it over and done with, is the

Saab.

Okay.

So now this was sent in, now this was sent in

by a viewer.

Have a name on your Instagram,

but it said BP.

Oh, this was sent in by the local BP garage,

which is very cold drinks.

Very cold drinks, we're always thankful for it.

Shout out the BP.

Now he sent a link to you.

Yes.

This is, we've kind of explained it before on

the podcast, but we have Don't Laugh,

which is, you see something funny,

you take a photo of it, or you tell a person,

you mustn't laugh at this.

It's very easy, it's an easy game.

And you point it out to them and they have to

try not to laugh.

This was one of those occasions,

they said to you, what did they say to you on text?

They just said, they're basically longtime

creamer, thought you'd find this funny auto trader link.

And I almost went past it, I thought it's

gonna be, I don't know, a silly car that

won't be that funny.

And I thought, you know what,

our curiosity, let me open it.

And I opened an auto trader link with a

single photo from Saab, and it was this.

Now yeah, for the audio views,

we will explore a little bit,

just for the

visual views, Don't Laugh, ready?

(laughs)

So for the audio listeners, that is a Saab,

93, two litre turbo, listed for self,

£1,950.

It's got 96 fair price.

96,000 miles.

Very nice to meet you.

And it has just one photo available,

and it is of eggs.

(laughs) It is a lovely, looks like a lovely

sort of place.

We've got a really nice plate with some eggs,

are they mushrooms

underneath?

Is it steaks?

Or is it steaks?

Also, why are the egg yolks being cut open

and folded over?

So we've got some steaks on a plate with some

eggs and some lovely pepper.

And you're wrinkled.

Sure.

Should we just give a little sort of half

point to the plate as well?

Yeah, no, that's not the plate,

yeah.

The plate is lovely as well.

A sort of marble top there.

(laughs)

Now, we all are absolutely cackled at this

for quite some time.

It's been only fantastic.

I was at home editing yesterday,

it will call me.

(laughs)

But unfortunately today, we clicked on the

link, and it's now here, I'm actually sorry.

I'm doing this quite disappointingly.

Interest fell off.

The car for sale.

It has many photos.

That's lots of them, but it's like a big bed

to a screenshot.

But what made me laugh even more is that it's a

46:05 Anecdote - Saab Ad with Eggs for Sale

dealer.

Yeah, it's a dealer.

It's like a van sales company.

He does it day in, day out and went,

"Screw it, have an egg."

He's going through a car, no interest on that sale.

Why is that?

Open up the egg.

I had, oh, they're my eggs.

Also, it's a very little reserve now.

So you can just online, you can press reserve

now and get the eggs.

We debated very briefly about just buying the

car, no matter what it was, no matter how bad

it was for the sake of, can we go there?

And do we get the eggs with it?

Yeah, can, if we buy this car,

rigging them up, saying, look,

I'm interested in the Saab on one condition.

I would like a plate of steak and eggs cooked

in the same way with the same format I want

to be saying of that in the same place.

And if it's good, I'll pay you for what I'm asking for.

You know, my knock it down a bit.

If it's not good, I'll haggle them.

No, no.

These aren't the eggs you advertise.

These eggs are really not--

One of the context.

Are they his eggs?

Did he make them?

'Cause it's--

It's a restaurant.

It's an accident to make.

First things first, please, you,

Creamers, don't go contacting them.

No, don't.

I know that it says their thing there.

It's not funny to do it.

Like, I don't wanna clean up not funny.

That's funny.

Don't mess with someone's business.

It's funny to look at it, but don't go,

"Ah guys, I found out what they would do."

And they've changed it now.

Yeah.

They've just tried to, you know,

upload pictures of a Saab and he uploaded one

picture of his egg dinner.

Now, did he, now, what's the person that sent

it to you?

The person that owns the garage and gone,

"Right, I know how to bring up some interest

on the Saab."

Cream to go, "Everyone look at the Saab."

I wouldn't like that as much,

that would feel.

If you are looking to sell a reasonably

priced performance automobile on AutoTrader,

simply upload it with a picture of an egg or

something funny, and we will go,

"Ah, that's an egg."

(laughs)

Also a quite clear distinction between news

of cream and anecdotes of cream.

One is about news of Car's big release,

the other one is of an egg.

So that's our egg-related news going.

I don't think that would be better.

No.

So, one of our anecdotes you've put in here,

Edwin, is James Bond in traffic,

which is happening.

Now, this was a thought I had the other day.

This is, if I'm honest, completely your name.

But I thought, you know in James Bond,

where they go, he has revealed his new car,

Q.

Q gives him, "Hey, here's your,

we call it the Vanish."

And they say, "You must now drive to Austria

to stop the man with the cat."

Yeah.

He's sitting in traffic.

Yeah.

But there are points where James Bond,

he's sitting at the channel tunnel.

Yeah, as we say, he's come over and go,

"Make your tickets been delayed till 515."

What is he driving?

This is what I mean.

Yeah.

In the movie, you see him, because I was

watching James Bond, he goes,

"Right, I'll be there in a moment."

And then it cuts to him pulling up at the swanky hotel.

It doesn't show him sitting at M25 traffic.

They also--

But he can't go around that.

No, you can't.

Well, there is a few, I think it's tomorrow

never dies, I think it is.

He's driving like an absolute ass on the street.

It's just in London.

I wanna say it's actually in the DB5.

I'm fairly sure there's gonna be some nerds

out there who are correct.

But he's driving in London and he's probably

just going to meet M somewhere or whatever.

And he's just absolutely slonking

49:14 James Bond in Traffic

it around on the streets.

And I'm like, "Well, yeah, I know like you're

James Bond, but you can't--"

I mean, let's calm it down a bit.

Let's just kill.

And that means collateral damage to--

He's pedestrians and everything.

Yeah, but I just have London traffic getting

frustrated seeing the red bit on ways.

Does he get onto the channel tunnel?

And then when it goes bing, bing,

boom, please open your sunroof.

That's your handbrake on.

Did he lean back in his seat and go,

"Right, get a bit of Kip."

Is James Bond sitting there asleep?

Go go and kill a dude with a scar later.

Do you think he has a road bridge as well?

That's what I mean.

Because he--

And the temptation.

Yeah, he is aggressive.

An X-5 pulls out in front of him.

Easy flashing.

He puts them.

Flash apart.

I blocked a secret agent.

Turns out he wasn't a doctor.

He's a doctor, no.

Yeah, no.

That's very good.

That was very good.

Yeah, James Bond, I would quite like to see that.

There is one piece of traffic in the jacket.

I think it's Skyfall.

Whether they're in the XJ.

I know, sorry, it's not James Bond,

it's M.

Oh, we should get--

Let's get out of the way.

Don't you know who I am?

I mean, whatever number it is,

blows up.

That's why he doesn't--

That's why he doesn't--

You don't wait for traffic, 'cause if he

does, I'm serious.

Then my phone blows up.

Yeah.

That also reminded me, when I saw that in

there, I was like, is this about someone

you've spotted with a number plate?

'Cause I saw someone with a stupid number plate.

And it was?

I imagine, I'm

gonna out them.

I'm gonna have to otherwise I can't tell them.

It's a Jaguar I-Pace, I saw in traffic,

and his number plate was 007.

E-M-H.

(laughs)

Now, I'll let you figure out what that--

How that's format, too.

No shade to anyone called in,

I'm called Edwin after it.

It's not the most swanky sounding name,

but no one in MI5's called E-M.

No, that says his name is H's.

Harold, E-M Harold.

(laughs)

He rocks up to his business meeting at five miles range.

(laughs)

He goes, Harold, E-M

Harold.

Quick chase out, man.

Mate, I can't, I've got five miles range.

Water, still.

It's a jag, it's not in the last one.

I didn't get a glimpse at the man behind,

I do believe anyone with it,

I don't care if it's, I don't care if you're

driving James Bond himself's DB5,

the one that went, I don't care what it is.

Yeah.

If you have a 007 plate, please.

007.

Please grow up.

Or a boss plate.

You are equally, you're on the complete

opposite ends of the spectrum.

Those are two humans that do not mix.

But you're essentially the same.

A boss plate?

CEO plates.

You're the CEO of the circus is what you are.

If it's boss and you've done it BD55,

feel free to crash a car into a wall.

Be a 55.

No, no, but you could be a 55.

But when they run out and your initials

aren't the rest of it, people go BD.

That means you're not even the boss.

You're the boss.

I'm the boss at this place.

If you got that plate, please,

yeah, just don't listen to the podcast.

What else have we got?

What else have we got?

Oh, Ben, you've put in here the radio.

I believe this follows on from the discussion.

There was more of more of you guys.

I just put it in there because I thought it'd

be interesting to talk about.

So do that, please.

I don't know.

You have a range of the radio.

52:20 Radio Listenership Numbers

I think recently, basically,

I've just got on your phone,

so I haven't connected my Bluetooth to my

car, so I've been listening to the radio.

And it made me realize who in God's name is

listening to the radio.

And that, because we do YouTube and whatever

else, we thought, what are the viewing

numbers on radio?

And they were just, well, it's just made up.

One of them claimed that there are,

I can't remember what the numbers were,

but let's say it was like, there are 35

million adults in the UK.

33 million people listened to the radio.

Sorry.

We literally thought, right,

so the three of us are the only people that

don't listen to the radio in the UK.

But like, my family don't listen to the radio.

My friends, I don't think listen to the radio.

Do you know what I think it is?

I think it's not every time we get in the car.

Let's say the radio automatically comes on.

I'll turn that off when we go to Bluetooth or to CarPlay.

Or maybe like the radio is just playing in

the background somewhere and they go,

"That's a listener."

That's a listener.

That's a listener.

You know what, he's ringing

in and going, "Long time, listener."

First time, caller.

No.

Keep the tunes coming.

I know.

Your man texted and says, "Keep the tunes coming."

I know it's rich from us with the Drost that we speak.

This podcast is absolute clown bait.

But at the same time, Ben and I were stuck in

the E36 and my Bluetooth dongle died on the

way back from

Ray Australian Retro.

Yes.

The 205.

And we were subjected to all upwards of an

hour and a half to two hours of.

So, guys, what's your favorite breakfast meat?

Come on, man.

What are we doing?

I had the same, I think it's Radio 1.

Also, I just don't like, why I've got to know

your number when I go, "Tune in to 97.45 and

you're going to get..."

Also, here's one for you.

If I'm listening to it, I'm already on it.

I can't get the country, I can't get it anymore.

Yeah.

I know DAB and stuff, but anyway,

I was listening to one and they were like,

"Oh, we're looking for people called Vabo."

And they went on LinkedIn and found a man

called Vabo who was exceptionally Dutch.

Yeah, show.

(laughs)

'Cause apparently.

'Cause I thought, what is this?

I mean, I was listening, I was actually quite

hooked by it.

(laughs) I hate this.

Tell me more.

Your whole argument falls apart because...

Yeah, no, it's fair.

You're engaging in about it.

But I was like, but also, if I had an option

to change to something else,

which I couldn't at the time.

You know, Will's next button.

What am I doing here?

But then you get into that thing where I'm

starting to seek, and then I don't know where

I am, and then I'm listening to...

What's that one called?

Or I'm listening to...

(humming)

Amen.

I'll tell you what, as a joke of the track

day, I put on Radio 4, what are going on?

Nice.

You know what, I'm smooth.

I'll tell you what, I was smooth.

So you've got to smooth them with...

What is the smoothest radio station?

It's got to be Radio 4.

Or classic.

It took to drive fast too.

Yeah.

But my question is, why is it right?

So Radio 1, allegedly, every adult on the UK

has it since that, every day.

Every one you know.

And that's not even including,

like, kids on the bus and they had to school

listen to it as well.

That's everyone in the country that listens

to this, right?

Why is it I can't get it halfway across the country?

But I could be on an island in the middle of

the Pacific Ocean.

I get classic FM.

It's all the way, you're always able to get it.

So people are on holiday.

They're saying that all these people listen to them.

Not all these people are in the country at

the same time.

True.

They're going abroad and just listening to the plane.

So Americans come to the UK to visit and

they're putting radio on.

Who listens to the radio?

Old people listen to the radio and they just

leave it on until they fall asleep.

Fire shops, tire shops.

That's it.

Which is still old people.

It's true.

Sort of old people.

And then who else?

Who else is listening to the radio?

Purely by accident.

Okay fine, I don't think it's 30 million people.

Chucking some shops.

Chucking some shops.

I don't ask them, that's not fair.

We're just going to play our YouTube videos

in shops and say we've got 30 million views.

Well that's where it's at because so when I

used to get a bus to school and I was younger

and they always had a kiss FM on the bus.

Classic.

And are you counting the 30 people on that

bus as listening to it?

I mean, if you're watching on the train a TVC

video, the person next to you looks at your

shoulder is not watching the video.

They had a meeting where they were like,

"Right, we've got to work out how many people

listen to our stuff."

They go, "Okay, here are the official numbers."

And then someone went, "Yeah,

but there's people at the bus and there's

people at the shopping center.

There's people here."

And someone just went, "Just stick them all

on it, then put them all in."

It's everyone.

It's literally everyone.

It's got to be everyone.

I don't trust radio numbers at all and I

don't know who listens to it because it's

eternally frustrating.

How do you, how do you work?

I don't know.

How old are you?

The technology behind it, but how?

Radio frequencies, mate.

No, but okay, so YouTube, right?

It's a server, everyone's log in to watch the video.

So you can count it quite easily.

Radio, you're coming over the airways.

How do you know I'm listening?

How can you count radio?

Yeah, inside.

But I mean, how do you count that?

That's why I don't trust about it.

They're just going, yo, 57 million people.

'Cause we used to live.

With YouTube, as far as I'm aware,

I don't know anything about anything.

It's a direct connection, right?

Whereas a radio, they're just,

they're going, it's going out into the ether

and then you're hooking on and you're

listening to it.

You know what?

I want to take a leaf out of their book.

Congratulations on Cream for being the most

listened to podcast on Earth.

We have beaten Joe Rogan and whoever else does podcasts.

We have had a concurrent 17 billion people

listening to this podcast, which is crazy.

Dead and alive.

Everyone to ever exist.

As a listening to the cream podcast.

It has to be at least 60 million viewers.

Will she work out?

Okay, so how many people in the UK like cars?

I'm going to do a shortcut for you.

Put them all in.

I think it's 10 million people who like cars

in the UK.

I think it's 60 million.

But how many people have seen cars?

60 million.

Exactly.

All of them, all of them.

Exactly, so you know what cars are?

Yeah.

Take some kids off that.

I did the animals.

They've all got two cars each.

That's 120 million.

Okay, and then, yeah.

That's it.

120 million.

Lovely.

Congratulations.

For that, let's make it 200.

Nice round.

Cream podcast has 200 million listeners.

Responses if you're hearing that,

please.

The rates have just gone exponentially.

Fevy right now?

(laughing)

You know, it's 3 million pounds.

We're real sorry about that.

Moving on from radio rambles,

58:08 Financial Crisis Car Prices

Ben, you've also put in here the financial crisis prices.

Yes.

I saw this was a post on Instagram from someone.

Yep, yep.

Somebody made a post about this.

And they know something.

And they know something about something.

And this was so, in 2008, there was a financial crisis.

You may know about it because everyone.

I heard on radio, I think.

Yeah, everyone did.

And basically, no one had any money and a lot

of people had a lot of money and I'm not

having very much money in the end.

So I also had to get rid of their cars.

Yes.

So I have some prices for cars that sold in 2008.

Yes, Jay, Jay, other video refer Jay sent

this over to me and I was actually saddened.

Okay, I would run for a few.

How old were you in 2008?

I would have been six years old.

Now, what I would recommend is,

no, you should have bought these cars,

Ben.

I shouldn't have been sat on the ground.

Playing with Lego.

Eating Play-Doh.

Probably, yeah.

I'll tell you what, the green one was the best one.

It tasted the most.

Right-hand drive, Ferrari F50,

October 2008, $620,000.

So we saw for reference a F50 sell at RM

Southern Beast for $11 million,

was it?

Was it?

Also, the right-hand drive car,

that's the Brunei car.

We've got a, this is a bundle,

obviously a rich guy, I'll assume that he's

lost a lot on the old stock market.

Ferrari F50, F40, Enzo, Toyota GTO,

all of them were listed for 3.7,

million, all of those together.

Is that, sorry was that all?

All together.

I got a bundle deal, yeah.

The whole thing.

And how much, sorry, I missed that number.

3,000, 3.7 million.

3.7 million, so that's, yeah.

So realistically, the Enzo is now worth two

to three, I think, is it, is the beginning of an Enzo?

And F40's starting at one or two,

you know, it's crazy.

Mercedes 300 SO going sold for $535 grand.

This is all dollars, by the way.

Yeah, assuming, I don't know,

yeah.

But they are like million, 1.5s too,

now.

I think it was 1.5, I want to say.

I don't know.

Twin Turbo Koenig F50 listed for 538.

No, I want to know that car that I love.

I really want to know where that car is now,

because it seems to have disappeared off the

face of the earth.

That car is special.

It was an actual F50 with

Twin Turbo's.

Koenig's XCCR 639,000, and F40 went unsold,

so no more on it, too expensive,

375 grand.

That kind of tracks actually,

that 2008 would have been roughly when I saw that.

I think I mentioned it on the podcast.

I saw one at Maranello when I was a kid,

and the price in the window was £225,000.

Did you say he bought it?

The guy bought it, drove it home,

no number.

But you didn't buy it.

Look, he should have been, it was a great

time to buy it.

No, no, he made a better offer.

Oh, yeah.

Well, you should have gone in the bathroom.

Yeah, I was like, well.

You came in at three Porsche dust caps that

you'd stolen, you know, sort of.

Have this chrome dust cap.

Brackets, actually true.

Yeah, true fair.

Probably for 3.8 million, McLaren F1 GTR.

Ah, that's a tough one.

That's a really tough one.

I have a few more here.

Also, at that point, flashback to then,

maybe feasible that I could have convinced

someone, maybe not on my age then,

'cause I would have been to drive it at three

mil, I know that's still obscene money,

but you might find someone who go,

yeah, okay, you can have a go,

but now it's not happening.

Yeah, sort of GDP of a large country.

Yeah, I'd say it's, would that be 27 million?

That's probably like half the amount of

people that listen to Radio 1?

You could, yeah.

Yeah, well, no.

If everyone listens to Radio 1 donated a

pound, we might be able to, we could get like

two F ones.

Crazy.

True.

So if Radio 1 got his thing,

yeah.

So basically, okay.

Sorry.

Be mean.

So yeah, we should have been investing.

Yeah.

But hey, what do you think, Ben?

One car, what do you think is gonna be that

right now, that in, what is that?

15 years?

No, 17 years, whatever it is.

That way you look back and go,

no 2025, you could get that for that.

I think it would be a plate of eggs for 1950 pounds.

Hey, if you bought that at the bottom.

Oh, you need to be gone.

I mean, like storing it would be difficult.

Well, yes, there's that they were eggs,

today they're a Saab, so they're good.

The stock is going up.

Oh, Ben, Ben's quotes.

Yes, yesterday's eggs are today's.

I think, I think, most Largo is gonna be up there.

Agreed.

I think, no, no, don't worry about that.

They're not going anywhere.

I don't know, but I think anything that's

manual now that's rare will be going up,

because I think when we're all driving

refrigerators and washing machines around.

I think, and it's not because I have any

vested interest, I think it's 'cause I

actually believe it, I think E92s and E46s

are gonna go up like E30M Theresa.

Yeah.

Because I think 'cause there will just be

this thing where everyone's like,

any 39 in five will go, "Oh my God,

do you remember when they just made them so

good when they were great?"

Meanwhile, the car that rusts.

E60M5 I think, 'cause with cars get to an age

where people look past any problem they have,

they become a, and it's not when they're 10,

it's not when they're 10, 15,

20 years old, it's when they're 30,

40, 50 years old.

If you look at when things like the mirror,

when they weren't that old, people go,

"Oh, it doesn't drive that well."

And like the bridge to Hammond thing,

we says the front end goes like,

"No one gives a toss about any of that now,

they just want the mirror."

Same as a Mercilago, anything,

any issue that Car

1:03:27 Car Investment Tips

might have had when it was new that a

journalist said, "Oh, this wasn't,

right, or this wasn't right."

They just lose that.

And that's why I think that even an SMGM5

will be one because there'll

be tons of M5s that are not maintained very well.

So there'll

just be those dead ones, ones no one wants.

So finding a

good one in a good spec that's been looked

after, it won't

even matter what gearbox it's got.

I would say that is the BMW E39M5,

where if you say M5 in

my head, even though it's not the one that I

want the most,

it's the one.

It sums up RS6.

It's the last RS6, RS6, if

you like.

But yeah, so investment tips from from TDC.

Meanwhile, Will selling his little lost there today.

Clio, I thought about that.

I was like trophy.

If I kept that car long enough,

it would be worth good money in the trophy.

I don't think we can actually mention that.

A trophy appeared the unit the other day.

I was really quite methodally,

really quite annoyed at that.

But a trophy again, another car.

That's why I'm sitting on mine.

And a fixed court system I've put away for a few years.

People want them silver ones with no service

history, didn't they?

I got some.

But even that, to be fair, again,

service history thing, car gets to an age.

Yeah, crash damaged.

It gets to a point where people just want a good one.

Listen, my clear is going to Miami.

All right, and it's fetching,

what are they, £800?

It's fetching two grand.

We spoke to Peter, who let us drove the M5

and he was looking at bringing a 172 to the US.

He did.

Which in my head would be awful.

Yeah.

Couldn't imagine wanting to do that.

But hey, how do you feed?

Cool.

Do we have anything else or is that?

That's all my phone's not coming on.

Here we go.

We've got Saab eggs, we've done that,

Clio, we've done that.

Could we meet at two cream pockets?

I also put egg in here again for some reason.

Death mileage.

This was a question you had before the

podcast, which Will asked me,

I was sat in that room.

and he quickly shouted at him,

do not speak.

We'll have a podcast in a second.

Now, it came about.

The first question was, how many mileage do

we think we would have as humans?

Yes.

I realized that was a dumb question.

But then realized what is like the,

what is, well, it's quite an interesting

thought experiment.

But what is the average mileage a car dies at?

He was talking like humans where,

you know, life expectancy is ever increasing.

Is life expectancy of a car ever increasing?

I always think this when I speak to people

who aren't into cars, they, there seems to be

a belief that once a car hits a thousand

miles, it's old and like, they only get rid

of this car, which is funny because then you,

like the RS6 has got 117 K on it.

And we're literally like, that's like one of

the lowest mileage cars

we've bought.

We're all borrowed time according to other people.

But yeah, I think that's 100 K is like the

mark of, oh no.

Oh, yeah, 100, once we go past that six mega.

We're not looking for a replacement for this car now.

I think it depends country to country as well.

Obviously in the US, they see 100,000 miles

and go, hell, just broken in,

buddy.

God.

Because they do more driving,

we don't.

So if you've got 100,000 miles on your micro,

God.

No, I think it's about, I think it's what

people do to it.

I think it could go longer, but put together.

I think it's 120,000.

I think it's 150.

I think you're thinking about retirement,

you're looking at pension about 100 K,

125, you're packing the job,

you retire.

and then 150 you're dead.

Interesting.

Dead.

Well, dead.

I do think I--

Car's gone, crashed.

120 is actually in my head, I think a,

'cause I see cars for sale very often at 120.

'Cause you've just surpassed 100 and you

might have done a year or two or more

driving, but you're not willing to take it into that.

'Cause also there's the, you're getting into

the next batch of big matins and dolterums.

And then once you get to like 180,

people just ride it through.

Like 180 to 300, you're just going and people

will live with that car.

And I'll keep it going.

Realistically, the second 100,000 miles,

she's second wind.

As long as you get your cam belt or your

chain or whatever it is done.

You're like, "Yo, I'm on life too."

You've broken the seal.

So you're ready to go all night.

I'm just new again.

Let's go again.

Never mind the bushes.

We're carrying on despite any of that.

But I say 120, which means your X5 is,

uh-oh.

Oh

boy, he loves it.

He was well past it.

What is that, 170?

180.

180.

You're almost hell.

Do you know what I'm saying at night?

Do you know what I'm saying at night?

The after life right now.

Is it?

I don't want to say anything 'cause I want to

get home later, so I'm just gonna carry on.

This weekend I went to an auction with my

friend and indirectly bullied him into buying me 36.

Nice.

He went to register for bidding.

He hadn't had no intention of bidding on my car.

I looked at it and the car went,

"This car's really nice."

I'd buy this, if I were you,

which I knew would work.

We got there, he went to register to bid.

I said, "I'm gonna go to the toilet."

When I walked out of the toilet,

he went, "I've bought it."

I went, "What?"

And he went, "In the time you enter the

toilet, "of you are my bidding card."

And the car popped up and the guy said,

"2,300 pounds, no bids."

He put his car up.

He said, "Okay, 2-4, assault."

And I was like, "Oh no, where is it?"

He went, "I don't even know,

I haven't seen it yet."

So when I looked at the car,

and it is the most immaculate,

the most immaculate you've ever seen,

60,000 miles.

But 60,000 miles, isn't a small amount of miles.

This car looks like it has never been satin,

like it's never been driven.

Every button is lovely.

I've seen 60,000 miles of cars that are haggard before.

It is kind of funny that I guess it's how you

live your life.

You could be 24 and absolutely matched or 28

and absolutely matched.

Or 23 and absolutely matched.

29.

Or 52 or 55?

But what is it?

Why is that so?

What do you have to do to really make a car

so haggard at the same mileage?

What are people actually, how do you give up amfisted?

Give up.

Car is three years old.

You've got one car that's at 100,000 miles

because it's, I guess there is the Moto A miles thing.

Yeah.

And you have another car that's at 20k but

it's got, it's got gob in it and tears and rips.

But that's, I think that is honestly,

it's how, it's how you treat the car.

Yeah.

Cause I, I've talked about it before but my

golf, my Mark IV, I bought that on 80k miles.

I think I put 20 onto it and it was still as

immaculate as I polished it every week.

I cleaned it every week.

Yeah.

I sold it to my sister.

It was ruined.

Yeah.

It was ruined at the end of it.

And she did.

She did do good mileage but still there was

no reason for it to be as ruined as it was.

So I think it's just how you maintain it.