He Predicted The Toyota GR GT, Driving An F1 Car Is Easy, and Mr Bugga Hates Ben - C.R.E.A.M. #61

0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin

Yeah, but it's a dog that you decided to

shoot because you

thought it was getting too old.

Myself, Edwin, William to my left and

Benjamin to the behind.

Hello.

I didn't mess that up, but hey,

we'll carry on with it.

At the beginning of every Cars Rule

Everything Around Me podcast,

we answer the question, do cars rule or do

they ruin everything around us this week?

Ben, I'm throwing it all back to you.

Can you stop with this?

It is going to be a mixture of the tooth.

That's not how that works.

It's going to be a rule.

No, a rule because nothing's happened.

I still have an F2000, which I'm dealing for

some reason unbeknownst to myself,

and I have no current daily or plans to buy one.

What is the current front runner?

The S2000.

As a daily.

Because I listened back to something that we

said before, which is that Ben,

at the next podcast, Ben will come in.

It will be a completely different daily.

And so far, we're true to that word.

I think we started on what it was.

There was a Golf 7 in there.

Golf GTI in there.

All sorts.

I was second on nothing.

I was second on nothing.

I don't

know.

Yeah.

Because we said, "Are you still happy about

dailying the S2000?"

He said, "I'm not."

But, so I don't understand where you're at.

You're sort of like, limbo land.

What it was actually quite funny,

we said, "So you're happy driving the S2000?"

It went, "Obviously not."

It looked an upset way.

Because what you don't want is to start

hating your S2000.

I am.

This whole operation was your right.

What is going on?

I have regrets in life so many.

I have regrets buying the X5 in the first place.

Now, that's a while starting work here.

I like it here.

No, the X5, it certainly very well.

But, pardon me, if I hadn't bought that,

I wouldn't just bought a daily then.

Does it hurt you seeing it arrive here?

Most days.

And arriving here.

Less than I thought.

It more annoys me the fact that I just don't

like buying cars.

I keep

having to buy dailies.

Would you prefer, would it make you feel

better if Jamie didn't turn up on morning and

we were like, "Where's Jamie?"

And then he was like, "Yeah,

Pablo, X5, blow up.

Would you feel like, maybe for my way worth."

Why?

Because I've sold them a dog,

haven't I?

Yeah, but it's a dog that you decided to

shoot because you thought it was getting too old.

You just gave away a dog.

I didn't shoot the dog.

And it wasn't just for Christmas.

There was no reason to believe the dog will die.

Sorry, I want to address this because it's

really annoying me all week.

I've got to December 26.

My dog is old.

My dog is old and at some point it will die.

So I'll get rid of it.

Can I just please?

I don't want to say it though.

Let me just say to you because this is not,

this is, I never said I was worried it was

going to die.

I said I was, that isn't what I said.

I got rid of it because I didn't want to run

it because of the cost of it.

Jamie, listen to this.

Vet Bill's got too much.

He took it to get its teeth brushed.

I think of how much.

But it's not even the Vet Bill.

It's the perspective of the Vet Bill.

It's the Vet going mate.

Just so you know, next year he's going to

want to get this remote.

If my dog needs a new heart,

it's going to be expensive.

Done, sell the dog.

Okay.

The car had some things and you'd go into it,

which Jamie is well aware of.

I sought him for a very good price.

question.

No, I'm saying that the reason I got rid of

it is because I didn't want to do those bits

or I didn't want to because it cost a lot of

money and I didn't want to have to do that

and then more stuff go wrong.

Because I'm doing the mileage on it.

It starts going wrong.

Funny at Goodwood.

Good event you didn't come to.

So busy selling daily as it appears.

Jamie came over and said, I talked of advance

with Benjamin.

I couldn't believe it.

I really couldn't believe it.

And he said, well, hold on, there's just a

list of things.

And then there was a message that was quite long.

Now, I don't know if we talked about it last

week, but technically you have been a hand of

an official L.

Yes.

I would like to read back and listen back to

show us because Ben did sell the car before Chrysler.

Yeah.

Merry Chrysler.

So I don't want to take the L yet.

Well, you have it.

It's gone to like a board of adjudicated.

And Edwin, is that board and his adjudicated board?

To be fair.

So we'll explain that one.

Overall.

Ruin.

That's surely a ruin.

That can't be anything but ruined.

Yeah, right.

The S2000 is good.

But I don't want to daily it because it's December.

It's just going to rust away.

We earlier on, Ben kindly said,

I'll go to the BP.

And so I would write in lines for things and for songs.

We know that that's what we do.

A Christmas song is coming out.

And we heard at the distance,

boar, boar.

I was like, oh, Ben's outside.

And then you arrived a minute later.

It sounds great.

It has, I don't understand this right by

5:33 S2000 Exhaust Noise Debate

that car.

This is just a very...

You just have it like...

Honda, and the whole point of that car,

as far as I'm aware, is that Honda said to

the engineers, "Make a really good car."

And that's why it's so good because there's

no bottom line stuff.

It's just make the car good.

And then it went exhaust.

Now, that, no exhaust on that.

It has about as much exhaust noise as me.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, I just sat for it.

Yeah, you know, that's quite a lot.

As you do care at all, I mean,

what's going on?

Yeah, factory cars are normally just a bit...

Yeah.

Even like factory sports cars have some.

It has nothing.

It has literally nothing.

It's sighted.

Someone getting exhaust on it.

But I don't know anymore what to do.

So it's a ruin for me.

Please, someone else tell me.

I will say rule.

Okay.

And there's a peak reason for that.

And that is that I put an amplifier in C.R.E.A.M.

recently.

And it made noise.

I'm so badly listening to the radio right now.

I have now switched to a new form of talk.

I don't know how lucky I am now.

I've now got audio and I'm like,

I'm already taking advantage of it.

And now all I have is the radio.

So I have got Susan saying that.

Now my cat has got AIDS.

I want to, Edwin, you'll be within this one.

I want to talk about something about your radio.

Will made a crazy statement earlier.

So Will hates the radio.

Has always hated the radio.

And he now has audio in his car.

But you have no Bluetooth, correct?

I can do telephone calls.

But you can't listen to music on Bluetooth.

Why don't you ring someone who has Bluetooth

and then they play it down the phone?

Well, this is the point I'm getting to.

So we said to Will, Will was like,

I'm going to put Bluetooth in the cold apple

car plus this week.

Yeah, it's a week.

But then you can play about listening to radio.

So Edward made a good point of why are you

just temporarily for the week?

Just get yourself one of those little radio dongles.

I have one in this thousand.

I've been using them.

Sorry, audio listeners.

And Will refuses.

He would rather listen to the radio and

complain and then just buy something.

No, the radio isn't good enough.

No, I'm not being like, man.

You are.

Yeah, I know that.

That is what I say.

But the radio is not perfect.

Absolutely not.

But it is better than listening to 109.7 on

your transmitter, which comes out of one

speaker and is crackly and you drive past

someone doing the same thing and it goes,

but like Edwin said, wouldn't you rather

listen to music, not very good quality?

No, I will put in the hours,

the hard hours of either silence or Chris Miles.

To be fair, two months of silence.

What's another week to a man?

Of

course, but you're not in science.

You're listening to the radio and complain about it.

As if you have no other option.

But it's got better.

Look, you're making the complaint here.

You don't want to hear that Wendy from

Hertfordshire has...

I don't care.

I've been reading three kidney stones this week.

Isn't that what we do?

Is this what this is?

It's dog-shipped.

The dog-shipped, free mentoring,

random stuff.

The dog-shipped, but it's not that easy.

I can't help.

Whenever I listen to the radio,

this is an entirely separate topic that I

don't get into.

But the radio is dog-shipped.

Yeah, actually dog-shipped.

I believe it's the original brain rock.

If you listen to like even the transitions

between each scene, it's like radio.

8, 9, and there's so many different sound effects.

That is original brain rock.

Ben's tuning into American radio station.

Ben's on GTA radio.

You want to burn out paradise?

But do you know what I mean?

It's streaker.

I think I said someone going,

"And today, we've got a giveaway."

And there's so many, it's so much shouting.

That is brain rock.

It's real, it's a good talk.

Yeah.

But why is it not, why's no one playing music?

Yeah.

I think there might be a thing.

It's like a mutually agreed,

like a gentleman's agreement where they say

like, you know, if one person is in an ad

break, they kind of all are not all,

but you know, like, so that you otherwise

you'd just put your radio on and find a radio

station, I'd wait 'til everyone else has got

the right advert, so I'm not going,

why?

Crank it up.

Play stunt 101, let's go.

Although that's the worst part,

because you go, someone goes,

and we're gonna go, everything's down.

So you go to the next radio station,

they go, these windows are for sale.

Why are they all on the ads at the same time?

It's so annoying.

But anyway, I hope you have audio,

which is a plus and hopefully this week,

I will have an actual thing in there.

No music.

You did have an air along the glardo.

Have you spoken of that?

I don't think I have no.

I got the car back.

It was all wonderful.

It was all fantastic.

It was all lovely.

It was all lovely.

This blowers came back, which was an issue I had.

Blowing blowers, this blower side,

hair, I could actually defrost the car.

Previously, I couldn't do that.

It was just missed up.

It was fixed and now it's not fixed.

It unfixed itself after the Christmas meet,

where I think I might have mentioned this.

I feel like I've said this.

Probably didn't have people.

But anyway, we left that dunk to the meet and

it was the foggiest day, I think,

on earth, record, like ever.

Yeah, it was time.

I had to stop in the middle of the road,

because I couldn't see.

The entire winds, everything was missed up.

Blind people when they drove.

That's exactly what it was like.

And then my girlfriend was a little bit

panicked by the entire situation,

because there is my absolute,

basically everything I own ever is in that

car, basically.

And then head out, like a dog,

shout out the window.

And you know, it's not even got doors that go

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It

is a ruin.

There is still no Range Rover.

You'll

probably go hear me say this for the next

eternity until I

get one.

But more so than that, I was working on my

Mercedes this weekend and thing after thing

went wrong on

that, but it's now looking like it's finally

ready to go for sale.

And then the gold, golf, the Mark IV Golf

that is ready to go.

When will this have come out?

This will be the interior.

The interior will be out.

So you will have seen that we have installed

the interior.

And that video was supposed to be about

finished about maybe a week,

now I call it half a week earlier.

So and it instead got finished this morning.

So it was an absolute rush, him and it's

seven to fit an interior to that car,

which is fun.

But it still, it looks cool now on those seats.

So there are silver lining things,

but overall a ruin.

It's the silver lining because it's silver.

It breaks over.

It's now Chris, the painters.

So he'll be sorting it out.

I'm genuinely so excited to see that car done.

It's just cool.

They're both cool.

They're just really cool.

Yeah, it's very cool.

We can't wait to see.

But to have them both on the road will be

very, very nice.

It's a ruin of a thousand small cuts.

People who work on cars, you'll know it.

Just being you get you get trodden down by

cars, driving over and over.

Cars just punching down.

However, there is something behind us.

Now we're not going to there is an upcoming

video on it.

So we're not going to spoil too much,

but we bought another car and we'll get on to

that soon and everyone's saying we've buying

too many cars.

We know we will get to them.

But we've bought a new tow car.

Yeah.

It's behind us.

Because the client has gone.

And it's sold to you.

We needed a sensible, reliable,

economical, sensible, economical,

reliable, tow car.

Yeah.

So, you know, not to spoil too much.

I think I speak for as all when we say that

the Land Rover's we have access to here,

possibly, you know.

terrible.

Just just really.

Now, it is, well, when you find out what it

is, and some of you will see and you'll

already know what it is, I still don't think

it's that dumb.

I don't

think it is.

I genuinely don't think it is a,

what we'll

say, it's a V8.

Yeah.

So it's not, he's got no turbos to

get upset.

It's a simple, a, a stalwart of the,

of the, of the brand.

It is an engine that has been known to just

live and go.

So, you know, we'll see.

It does make 500 horsepower.

towing needs power.

Exactly.

Towing needs talk.

And that's exactly what we've got.

And the absolute dog shit Land Rover's there.

Normally hanging around here,

tend to never work.

They really don't.

The amount of times I walk out and go,

I need to trailer something today.

What is available?

And one of the other guys goes,

well, there's the, oh no, that's broken.

Okay.

Well, you could take, oh no.

That one's leaking diesel.

That one's leaking coolant.

That one's leaking.

Got no motif because it can't pass one.

There's nothing.

You can't use anything.

Yeah.

It's all broken.

It's all broken this.

So the one issue is this car doesn't have a

tow bar, so we do need to get that fitted,

but it will make a simply great lunch,

lunch car for the gang.

So you'll see some of that soon.

This is a live reaction on the podcast,

Ben made a

15:13 Yellow Clio Deal Negotiations

deal with me regarding a yellow clear.

I was speaking about it earlier.

I've received a message.

I received.

So there's a guy called Ash who I bought on a

began, but yeah.

And he said, he sent me a message saying,

oh, if you'd like to borrow it for a week,

then actually if I can, I'll try and find the message.

He said, if you get your hand ready,

you get to sign on that paper,

basically.

But I said, it won't count if I borrow the car.

No, I can't borrow the car.

And I said, can I please buy it?

And he said, no, because I'm going to break

it for bits.

It is a twice written off liquid yellow clear,

197.

Now, 197, one of my favorite videos of all time.

I prefer that to a 200.

I agree.

But non-reno people are here.

1.8 or all these numbers.

What?

Versa 1.8.2?

I prefer 1.8.2, but a 197 is a more livable thing.

They legitimately feel like actually good

cars to use every day.

They're quite comfortable.

I got my friend to buy a Silverstone Edition 200.

And I drove it around for a while because I

owned it before him.

It's great.

Genuinely great.

It feels 1.8.2, if you've never driven one,

does feel like rolling around in a tin can.

If you feel any form of low impact,

there is a worry you die.

Yeah.

Like five mile out, someone's rolling a

shopping trolley in, written off cat S,

structural cat B, Death inside the car,

1.7200.

Great.

Solid.

Nice.

It's just nicer there.

And also, you can get them in some slightly

nicer colors and some nicer seats and some

other bits as well.

And there are just some different specs.

So I am quite distracted by that.

So he has just given me a price.

He has said he will sell it.

No, I've said it.

If Will doesn't, I might want to.

I really do quite want it.

Do I tell you?

Yeah.

I mean, the deal will be done.

What is the deal?

What is the deal?

I don't remember.

Basically, I just want you to lose.

It was something like, it was,

you will not own a yellow Clio by the end of the year.

But it was by November, but by the time I'm

31, you gave me until November 40,

31.

You are currently 31.

While I'm still 31, even.

That's a good time for that.

It really sprays around about 91.

I said, but it wasn't like 11 months to get a yellow.

No, I don't know why I did that.

Also, it was for an official L.

This is a

written one as well, right?

No, no, the written apology we didn't know

about everyone listening about.

And the forfeit was I had to give Will a written apology.

I would have provided extra.

Oh, that was for the, that was for the original.

X5.

So, the next five.

I didn't sell it by Christmas.

I would have to write Will a written apology.

So this is just for an official L.

A handshake with perhaps an L plate will sort

something out.

I'd like some paperwork with it.

Yeah.

Well, if anything, this will just,

if I lose this, it's just cancels out your current L.

Do you know how in, I think it's in America,

maybe we do it here as well.

Yeah,

I think you can both hold the L.

I think you can both

have one for separate circumstance.

We can all have one.

We

can also have multiple.

You know, you don't just get one,

you could have a handful.

What's the price?

Three and a half.

Oh, that's cool.

It's very cheap.

It's not that cheap for what it is.

No, it is.

Relatively high mile, double written off.

If you describe a clear 197 like that,

someone, that's a two grand car.

Yeah, like if that is, you'll probably be

starting with a one realistically.

And I've run this sent some issues.

Oh, there's another issue.

Just came through a minute ago.

It's just a third gear crunch.

It's an interesting one.

Well, when it's cheap for the color,

basically the color is very rare.

Also, I would look like Maximus Cockus with a

pearl, yellow, clear and glardo.

I like that.

That sounds nice to me.

I hope you enjoy third gear,

mate.

Yeah.

enjoy the daily and by not.

Right.

Shall we get on to some news,

dynamic boats after that big old waffle?

Big news.

A week later, we'd sort of did it live,

but before it actually came out,

it came out two a.m.

that day, basically.

And before before we carry on to any degree,

we made guesses.

And the creamers who who will have listened

to this episode now, the previous one will

notice we all got

19:24 Toyota G.R. GT Prediction Reflection

the number right for the horsepower.

I haven't double checked.

Do you know this then?

You say 641?

I think I said 3.9 meter V8.

I think I also said it was 4

will drive.

My Intel was off.

Is it?

I didn't know that.

I

thought it was electric at the front.

I'll be honest.

Well,

does anyone know anything about anything at all?

I know.

We're talking about the new Toyota G.R.

GT.

And I want to say something.

I was wrong.

Okay.

We'll get on to it because it's next piece of news.

We'll get on to that.

That's what I'm saying.

We'll get on to it in more detail.

But I read before it was a rumor,

to be fair, that I said last week that there

was the Lexus LFA successor based on that

same platform as a Lexus.

And we found out they leverage the concept at

the same time.

So talk about it.

Tell me about it.

It's electric.

So I've deliberately not read into anything

so that I may be a creamer listening.

You may explain it to me as a creamer.

There are three cars, kind of a one.

I think there's more than that.

I don't know what it's called.

So that is a successor.

Hang on.

It's a GT3 car.

So is it like an actual GT3 car?

A race car?

Yeah.

Okay.

Then there is a GGT, which is the road car,

which is this new long, bonneted,

quite nice looking thing.

And it looks a bit like an LFA,

but new, but long.

No, it just looks like a Toyota.

What?

But it's sort of the spiritual successor to the LFA.

To the 2000 GT.

Yes, 2000 GT has started it.

It has a V8, a fully a V8.

Will got wrong, isn't there anything?

And 641 horsepower, which will got right.

Somewhat hybrid?

Yes, so it's got like a hybrid system in the

gearbox, I think, for torque filling.

Okay.

Is it a rear wheel drive then?

Yes, it is.

Lovely skids and some fun facts.

Will told me the price of it.

But 100 grand, right?

That's quite interesting.

100 grand.

Because there isn't that much now around 100

grand, other than 911s.

Yes.

Like not base model, but just above the base.

base model 911.

I think it's...

What else is there?

MGGT 911 competitor type thing.

But I think it looks really good.

I quite like it.

I really like the way it looks.

They are also.

We watched the reveal video and they came in

revving and not only were they revving,

they were sututting.

They were servo noises.

We played it.

We were both like, yeah.

And they both start doing it.

We went, hold up.

What is that?

It was like, it was like F10M5 intake.

Great.

The hot V.

So, but the weird thing is I then heard a

video of it revving inside.

I think it's Fuji.

So there they did a reveal of it.

And it was doing so revving and I couldn't

hear it there.

I'm wondering if it's only the GT3 car,

but I think I'm obligated they would usually

have to have the same turbos,

meaning you could probably make it sound like that.

So that's cool.

I like it.

It had quite a lot of muted noise,

but it had quite a lot of pops and bangs.

Overrun, I think is the word.

I like how it looks.

There are certain angles that it does look

like the Merlin engined Rolls Royce thing.

The beast?

Is it the beast?

No, no, I'm talking about the old Rolls Royce

that they put there.

It has some weird, there are some angles

where it just looks long.

Yeah, it does seem it's like too long.

You really know all that nose.

No, it deviates.

Well, I thought there was two in there.

He is mid-engine.

He's front mid-engine.

What?

It's because it's so long.

Because the engine is behind the front wheels.

So the head is a bit like S2000.

He has long nose because he has all that

space where the axle is.

Cool.

But because of that, I got some facts.

Here we go.

Run them.

Mid-engine, technically.

Yep.

Which is always a fun one to bring out of the pub.

Transverse gearbox.

Nice.

Okay, that's a bag.

So bit of weight distribution there.

Hot V, like a turbo lag, I believe that is

what that helps with.

And centrogravity is meant to be very,

very, very low.

Okay.

Now, all that's saying to me is skids.

I can be doing some big skids.

I wanna see, I wanna see.

Guys, I want a nice clean game.

It's a nice bit skid.

It'll be at all auto though,

right?

I'm assuming.

I'm not clear with that.

Can we just appreciate it for a second?

A new car in 2025, 2026.

That is 600 horsepower, which at this stage

is pretty conservative.

Pretty standard setup in terms of like,

then they go in for drivability,

what I'm trying to say.

It's not, oh, this is a three and a half

thousand horsepower electric thing that we're

gonna sell nine of.

They're like, you know, here's a car.

It's Japan 101.

Yeah.

They don't.

They're not there to chase the numbers like

everyone else.

They go, hey, let's build a car you want.

Now, you've told me that Mr.

President, there might be a third car.

It's called the Lexus LFA.

That, okay, that's interesting.

And you know what it is?

What is the year?

Is the year 2025 or is it?

This is the successor, the official successor.

It's a concept currently, okay,

but it's electric.

What?

That is, that is, you can't do it.

You, Lexus, so hold on.

Take it back.

Is it the actual LFA, the same looking LFA

that is now electric?

It looks quite good.

It looks like a modern LFA, I would say.

Okay, so it's like a, it is a reimagination.

Yeah.

The photo will be on screen here.

I can't.

The photo, the reason I was going to say the

photo is not going to be on the screen is

because of back.

So I can't actually see the screen.

I might push it over.

The screen is close than usual today because

the big car behind, it's quite big.

For everyone listening, Edwin,

just not on the TV.

Almost onto two laptops and two men.

with a painful one.

On your computer, look at it.

Just so you can have a reaction.

What's it called?

Lexa?

Lexa LFA put 2026 concept.

I just, I don't get away with,

you can't, why, why use that name?

Yeah, that's not great.

Why, why build up all of this,

this, this, this, this, this good,

this goodness, this good way of done with

Toyota and whoever else.

And then you go, yeah, you know what,

you know, that car very famous for it.

It is the only thing it was famous for really.

Yeah.

It makes me wonder what is going on in the

house of Commodore.

Did, why?

Why is it every manufacturer does this?

I don't understand, why would you go?

Every single person looks at it.

Well, logically, if we sell a car brand,

right, we go, what do people want this,

this, and this?

Let's do that.

Every other car brand goes right.

Okay, V10.

One of the best exhaust notes at all time.

What are we going to do?

I think electric time.

Get rid of it.

Son, but who's the same name?

So people will remember that car,

but they'll compare it alongside it.

Why not call it the LFE?

Oh, that's a better name.

I've got an idea.

Not make it at all.

Oh, okay.

Just who's by who's actually buying that?

No one.

That's the point.

None of these really rich guys are buying it.

Is it just a concept that goes,

hey, we could do this.

We could do this.

Everyone goes, don't do that.

We still might.

We still might do that.

Don't tempt us.

But I like the G-R-G-T.

I think it's cool.

I do.

I think it's cool.

I agree.

There's still the design is not completely

sold on me.

It's got design as it is.

Yeah.

It still has that modern car.

You've done too much.

The other thing I was thinking about it that

looks a little bit weird is I think because

of how long its nose is.

The wheels are a little

bit small in the arches.

I think it could maybe go an inch

up.

Such is the beauty of Japanese cars and tuning.

We'll

see something in about a week in a week.

The first one will be released and then 43

nanoseconds later.

Japanese tuner will have gone T37s.

Will we be seeing 900 million horsepower GRGT?

We could only hope from mines or whatever.

Ben, you've searched.

I've searched the LFA.

No, it doesn't say whether yes or no,

it's definitely going to be made.

But all of the wording and the language

implies that it is a concept of a car that

will come out.

So the news is it is built on the exact same

platform as a GRGT.

Okay.

But obviously it's electric.

And basically there's that they're basically big enough.

They're saying it's going to be great,

but no one wants that.

So there's one for you.

Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys,

guys.

Toto have been looking to release their first

performance car with a solid state battery,

whatever that means.

I've heard that for years.

I was going to ask the state.

I've heard the phrase solid state battery for four years.

500 gig in this one.

Don't shake this car.

You'll corrupt it.

Well, actually, that's something.

Yeah, yeah.

The Alexa LFA hard disk.

There we go.

It has to spin inside.

I don't know.

I've heard that for years.

I've never seen a car with it,

but they're saying that maybe that's the car.

Well, it's speculation.

Whoa.

Anyway, that's what I'm saying.

What is the point here?

But also Toyota, hey, what's up?

Why are you not trying to ask about this?

This is G.R.G.T.

You're making turbo noises, real drive,

coupé, making-- I can fix that.

We can't afford it, buy it, but we can always borrow it.

Just for a minute.

Just for a sec, like a day.

I think we'd like to.

I think we'd like to.

Love to.

Thank you.

Have a fair review and honest review.

I think we'd give it a really nice route.

If it makes it easier to give us the car,

give it an amazing review.

A bracket TDC, and the bought,

is what we said.

TDC has a price, and it's a car for a day.

Really?

Quite low.

Realistically from their angle,

not really that much of an outlet,

just lending a car to us.

Exactly, that's why it's so easy.

What have we got next?

Next up, we have some auction-related jQuery.

Yes.

There was an auction in Abu Dhabi,

which was where the final F1 race is,

well, actually, which we may get to in a moment.

We're going to the F1 race.

We will be going there.

We'll

28:59 F1 Auction Results Discussion

be going there.

Used to be.

730, that was amazing.

There was some quite big cars,

not actually physically big cars,

but some important cars going up for auction.

For numbers, who knows?

We don't know.

But there was a T50.

That's not the first.

Second?

Third?

Is it apparent the first publicly auction?

It's the first publicly listed,

but I thought there was one that went recently.

It was about $5.4 million.

$5.63 million.

What is that?

Like 4,000,000 pounds.

And that's with all the fees and bloody bloody blah.

So, well, I'm not saying it's not a lot of

money, but compared to what it's like an F1.

And fine enough, an F1 also went through.

Is that the same car we saw in Monterey?

It is indeed.

It's chassis 14, an X-brew night car that was

yellow, then went to white, then got fitted

the high downforce kit and the owner used

that thing, drove it around all sorts.

And now, yeah, it went up sale.

And the final numbers, essentially $25

million, a win million pounds.

With all of the tax, what do you call it,

the fees for the auction.

Now, I know it's a lot.

I thought more might happen.

I did too, but the road car chassis tend to

be a little bit less

than the GTRs, which tend to go privately,

but more.

So, it's

a public auction, but it's very possible that

the one that

we saw in Monterey, that's where we went.

It could have

gone for more, because that's a sealed bid.

This was just a public auction.

But whoever gets it, please use it.

How much?

How much do you pay?

25.

Oh, okay.

Nice bit of 50.

That's like half price, nice.

So, yeah, cool to see an F1 sell.

Hopefully it doesn't disappear.

Like the rest of them.

Well, not the rest of them.

There are lots of them being used.

Yeah, but they are like for the most part,

just sort of hidden away in some ways.

I think I always think, though,

basement.

There are, you see a good amount being used

for how many there are.

Yeah, it was 100 and whatever.

I think 106 is the total total number,

but that's including all the race cars.

Just the road cars.

You can still see them up there.

Meanwhile, like, Zonda.

Zonda's also rare, but you know what I mean?

Zonda's sold.

It's one of the Zonda Tricolo Performante

9000 special editions.

Yeah, okay.

$10 million.

If I'm Harry Metcalfe, I'm angry right now.

I know it's like a super special one,

so maybe that's more valuable because it's

probably a one off.

Yeah.

But still, yo, Zonda's going the same way as

McLaren F1's.

The crazy thing as well, is that any Zonda by

same with McLaren F1, you can just send back

to the factory and have them redo it.

They can redo whatever you want.

If you want it back to a C12S spec or you

want it back to whatever, they can do that.

That's the coolest thing.

Those chassis never exist as what they are.

They just exist as a base, which is quite cool.

They're MX-5s.

They're expensive MX-5s is what they are.

Zonda Riviera.

That's one.

Zonda Riviera, which is actually a 2006 car.

It went for $10 million.

Yeah, it's on an '06 plate.

I've done that at like $1,500 quid,

$2,000,000.

Honestly, it's brand spanking new.

There's a 2000.

He's never seen one so quick.

But it is a 56 plate, so another mill on that

one, please.

What else did we have?

Some

other ridiculous numbers there,

an F40 sold for 3.8 mill, a

La Ferrari, 3.4 basically, a 918,

a 1.7, 3.4 though for a La Ferrari,

it's quite conservative.

I think I've heard I've seen someone selling

it like four or five.

An F12 TDF, 1, 1.1, and an 812 competition,

almost 1.5.

It's crazy, crazy numbers.

Now, in similar news, but different,

there was, did we talk about this,

the Renault concept cars being sold?

Yeah.

That auction happened yesterday.

Finally enough, I actually registered to bid

'cause I was like, I want a concept car or something.

What I really wanted was the Twingo.

There was a Twingo Mark II RS concept car,

and all the reserves were ridiculously cheap

on these cars.

I think the Twingo's reserve was three to 4,000 Euro.

Cool, just to have, and it still works and stuff.

Everything went for lots of money.

They really did.

So, for instance, this Twingo,

so there was a Mark II Clio,

sorry, Mark III Clio, like what you're

looking at, 197.

The concept car that they revealed to show

that car off, the reserve, 6,000 Euro.

It sold for 20.

(laughs) The auction house, all right,

well, well, well, well, I'm gonna sold these.

The Twingo was reserved at six,

it sold for 16, but some of the other ones

went for for real money.

Now, there was only a couple of actual road

cars in there that you could buy and run,

which was a Clear Williams.

The Clear Williams had a really cool story

that was built at the factory and then used

by workers at the factories to run around and

get parts, like it was their lunch car,

Clear Williams.

That estimate was 20,000 Euro,

it sold to 54.

(gasps) That's not a nice noise for yours

here, but that did shock me.

The Renault 5 Maxi Turbo is quite cool,

a very cool wide-body, Group B,

I think it might be Group B,

it might be Group A, Bum.

It was a prototype car that supposedly had

some parts on it, unique in the world.

Estimate 80, I know it for 216,000.

There was a couple of F1 cars,

or a few F1 cars in there, that they had the

highest estimates, I think.

Yes.

Some of them were quite big and large.

I'll have a look at some of those F1 cars,

480,000 Euro, 313, 1.2 million.

Ooh, what do you do with that?

Wait, if you're very rich.

Daily, some of those F1 cars,

people do use.

Daily anything.

You mean the F1 or the concept?

But, no, I mean, a F1 with a 1 car.

A F1 with a 1 car, there are people who use them.

You can show them.

There's a lot of rich people that they will

own it, but they don't necessarily drive it.

They might have it driven by someone at the moment.

You buy, that's hard.

That's really hard.

Perhaps car cook.

I didn't want to even say it,

but that is odd.

Yeah, but you're getting it done by a professional.

But he was a professional.

Why would you do that?

Why would you do that?

It's not a nice way to think about it.

It's really not.

I don't like where this is going.

They're basically giving it back to someone

who used to, you know, have a go on.

Like back in the 70s.

And you said, I've now bought it at an exorbitant fee.

Well, I've got it.

Would you like to have another guy?

Because you were great back in the day.

You were unbeatable with the championships

and this thing.

Like no one else.

No one else did it better.

Why would I give it a go?

But what is the point?

I'm not worthy.

Why would you drop that much money on

something to them yourself?

Well, because they're very difficult to drive

or maybe you're very rich and very old and very frail.

Because also when you have that sort of

money, it's not about the money.

It's about being able to say a new message.

Exactly.

There's my car.

It's winning races.

But that's the one I owe.

That's what I care about.

There's my car being driven.

Imagine like a lot of these people will be

people who grew up something funny.

You've got a pair of that one boy.

It's rough.

But there's my car getting driven.

These are going to be exceptionally rich.

You can buy and store this sort of stuff.

But someone who grew up watching F1,

let's say it's a driver they like and how

they can buy that car.

watch it be driven.

Some of them will drive it.

Some of them might drive it.

They might have a go.

There are plenty of F1 cars out there that

are still being maintained.

They

know they can't perform, but they'll give it a go.

They

might give it one go and go look,

this is far too much for me.

Someone else better carry on for me.

Go have a crack.

36:20 Renault Concept Car Auction Analysis

All right, we'll let's move on.

But yeah, Renault, the Renault Concepts,

I'm sad.

There was also a Laguna BTC car that did go

with not as much money.

So here's what I was going to say.

There is a McGahn Mach 3, basically the car

from Blur, I think.

I think it was in Blur.

It was like a mad wide-bodied U3 style.

Which I think in theory should have had a V6,

but that one didn't.

Yeah.

This car had a reserve of five to eight thousand Euro.

It sells 42,000 euros, which is rough.

Which is a car you can't actually use.

Well, they said on the thing that the body

panels were, it's a moket.

So it's not a a race car.

The panels aren't carbon fiber,

they're most likely fiber glass or something like that.

I thought that was a potato.

A moket, or croquette.

That's the one.

Still not taking a potato.

And then there was also a just a wide-body

kit for your car.

Yeah.

That was a thousand euros.

But lots of the information on it.

I'm sure if you got in contact with them,

you might get more info, but lots of it was like,

dang.

Yeah, it just says car.

One of them again was like, we think it's got

a normal McGahn 250 engine in it.

What do you mean we think?

Also, it kind of okay if it was a collector

who bought it 50 years ago and has died.

You're Renault.

You made it.

You built it.

Oh, you have it.

You have the car.

Someone just needs to go out to it,

open the bonnet and go.

That's what it was.

There it

is.

One of my favorite cars was there was a Mark II Clio.

Preface lift, there was a phase one.

It's what we call six by six.

Yeah.

So a Clio that's had another two wheels out

of the area and it's got a pickup truck.

That had a three to six thousand euros.

It sold for 20.

What are you doing with that?

Who was in there going?

No, 18.

No, I'll go to 19.

I need that.

Maybe Renault buying them back.

We cannot let them go.

We cannot.

It is a bit sad though when they start

getting rid of their seats for the Mitsubishi

did it a few years ago and that was really sad.

That was not nice because you can't get those back.

No, they're gone.

Renault at no point, they're going to go,

"Well, we'll put a buyback cloth in."

Careful if we got that Renault sports fighter.

We sold that.

That's going to go into collection.

They're

never going to get that back.

That feels, I don't know.

They better put that money's good use.

They won't.

Well, you didn't explain it to me to say the podcast.

What do you mean?

It baffled me, because I thought,

"Am I in the wrong year?

What's happened here?"

So obviously, most recent Formula One race,

Land and Norris One, in a McLaren in 2035

car, I guess you would call that.

So I thought, do they go back a year?

Do they go forward a year?

What's going on?

It's like Americans where they go,

"I got a new 28 Mustang.

It's just come out last week."

It's just come out last week.

Last week.

Model year of F1 car.

But they are basically, they have sold a car

that is not yet built.

Okay.

So they're basically saying this could be a

well-champing car.

car.

It'd be amazing.

It feels like an L waiting to happen.

It also feels like an MLM, a multi L,

a pyramid scheme where it's like,

"No, no, no.

You give me the money for the car and then

we'll build it."

Yeah.

But if we crash it, oops.

But it will be a functioning F1 car.

It's not like a display car.

It will have the engine in and everything.

But you'll get it in 2028.

Okay.

Which I don't still don't understand because

that's a year after the season,

but even finish.

You know how almost two years,

basically.

You know when people order porshes and they

get updates, it's like here's your car going

through the factory now.

It's they do that after a race weekend.

Here's your car qualifying first.

Here's your car upside down on fire.

Sorry.

But they're selling it as like this could be

a championship winning car.

This could be this, this could be that.

And you can pick whether it's Norris's or

Piaxtree's car versus McLaren.

How do they even, they want to be there?

How do we know this?

Like they contracted.

But how do you know?

Say what team?

This is McLaren.

McLaren.

You just said, okay.

Oh.

You didn't say the team.

You just said it was McLaren.

There's an F1 car.

You didn't, yeah.

Oh, fair.

McLaren.

It's a McLaren.

Okay.

So, okay.

It's Ferrari.

No, the thing is right.

McLaren.

Very good.

Currently, as we've seen.

Well, that's, I mean, that is the...

But regulation changes, big regulation changes.

They could be quite bad.

No one knows.

There's so much regulation changes.

There might be, next year, there could be,

at the bottom of the seat.

Only three wheels, next year,

mate.

I don't even have a wheel, but they're a lot smaller.

Do you know what we've seen F1 car in person?

It is always like, do they get in smaller?

They're getting a lot, quite a lot smaller.

They might quite like that.

And then now 50/50 electric and when we

walked around McLaren, the older F1 cars that

were smaller were much more visually pleasing

than these big one cars.

The new ones are, the least Toyota G.R.

longer than like a long wheelbase rendering.

Yeah, crazy.

I think boys, but massive.

I mean, the Mathematica are not that much

smaller, but they are, I believe that they

will, there's like renders of them next to each other.

And it doesn't look a lot smaller.

Okay.

But when you saw them at McLaren,

and actually lined up, it is bigger and bigger.

Oh yeah, I guess bigger and bigger.

Obviously they're safer and faster and whatever else.

Yeah.

$1,000,000 for this.

Now, I don't know how much an F1 cars work.

Well, 20 million.

When we walk around McLaren,

he said that the cost of one of these cars is

at least 20 million.

Okay.

So, got a great deal.

Because I guess the problem is,

is that you couldn't actually buy that.

Only McLaren, that's what they're.

Yeah.

But, yeah.

But I guess if you bought that,

and that turns out to be, I don't know,

they go and win every race and it's World

Champion car again, that's probably a bargain

at that stage.

What they're doing is they're buying

approved, pre-owned used.

Yeah.

You're saying, look, I don't need new,

I don't wanna take all the boxes,

just as long as there's some service history,

i.e.

winning, get your side to six reds.

You know what it is though?

It's like saying, okay, I'm gonna go buy a

new Mercedes A-Class, but you can't have two

years, it's gonna have a lot of mileage on it.

Someone else, someone else is gonna- If

you're paying full price for it,

as if it was new, you're letting someone else

do it again?

It's kind of crazy, we're going right back to it.

Yeah, and I'm gonna pay you for,

ooh, let's start, let's start.

But basically, so they're not gonna get it,

they bought it now, paid for it,

I don't know how they paid for it,

then maybe they've put it on a finance deal,

have no idea.

And they won't get it until 2028,

but McLaren have said, we will give you a

2025 car once the season's done,

as like a lease, but it'll be a display car.

Sorry.

Not like a lease, I'm assuming they weren't

paid for it.

This one's just like a daily to get you back

and forth until your car's finished.

It's like we can give you the 2025 car,

you can have that as a display thing.

But to keep, no, no, like once you get your

car, you can get it.

But it is a courtesy of one car.

It's a courtesy car that you can't drive.

Okay, so that's what we're gonna ask,

you can't drive that one.

As far as I'm aware, that was,

I mean, it might be a display car.

But why would I want that?

'Cause you're rich.

But if, no, I don't have it.

In this case, correct.

In this case, right.

You've got, okay, I've got an F1 car coming

in, a couple of years' time.

All right, Ben.

And it's gonna drive.

Okay, I can't drive it on

43:15 Driving an F1 Car Challenge

the road, obviously, but I can drive it if I want to.

But then they go, we'll have this liability.

It's just a big view.

Now, I mean, it's something to show off.

It's something you can stick in your

penthouse mansion or in your--

'Cause it's beyond like supercars and whatever else.

The thing is that no one else can have that.

The people with this level, of money to

spend, was it 11 mil?

11 and 1/2.

They're not thinking like we are.

They're not going, do you need to get a daily notice?

They're going, that'd be funny.

Or that would be cool to show off.

Do I put it in my bedroom?

Okay, randomly.

But you'd make it out for bed.

I mean, it's a red cup bed, but it's not

actually a fun cup.

You're slotting yourself in in the F1 position.

So your knees are off above there.

And you're just-- I'd be great.

Oh, I just like, if I was that rich,

I'd leave it places.

My mate will come home into like his small

one bedroom flat and he'll just be in there.

I mean, I've got to say-- Disassembled by

McLaren and reassembled with it.

You've put your F1 Karma living room again.

Oh, and he can't get like through his kitchen

because his F1 car in the way.

Why not turn it into a sim?

For all your listeners, Ben looked--

Gleeful.

That would be sick.

Spensive.

Yeah.

Quite expensive.

But you didn't care, you're rich.

No, no, that would be a little bit of tilty-tilt.

I'm going to say a quarter.

I'd toil it.

No, that I quite like.

and everything.

Yeah.

You get to see mold it to you.

You have to do a race start.

So you're holding it and you let go.

No.

What makes the boar noise?

Is that the flash?

Don't worry about it, man.

It's a flash on the paddle.

That's sort of it.

I would call it.

I would have an F1 car, but only if I could do it.

I don't see the point you'd display one.

No, you have to have one.

It's not.

Do you reckon you could-- You'd be able to--

I mean, I reckon after a lap.

OK, hang on one second.

Edwin, do you think you'd be able to drive one?

No, it's not.

I don't think I'd be able to even William.

No, I'm not saying I think I'd be able to do

it straight away.

Did you never watch our top episode?

Well, it's TV, though.

How do you know that one?

He might have nailed that.

Are they going to one last a little bit?

I don't think you could try one.

I'll totally tone it back a little bit,

mate.

This video's got to be like 15 minutes section.

That was a

lap record, Richard.

Tone it down.

You've got to be so very fit to drive it.

Who do you think was the thing?

What are you looking at?

I think my first issue would be getting in it.

Do you think I think you fit?

And next issue would be getting out of it

because they'd say what-- Are you doing in there?

You bought the car on the snow.

No, you still need-- but you still need--

normally you need a team.

You've got to just buy an F1 car and just

whizz it down to the track on trailer.

We'll do it.

What's my ultimate?

I have no idea.

How do we start this?

I've got no idea because-- I think the new

cars do something.

Oh, let me Google it.

[LAUGHTER] How to start 2026 for the long car.

ChrisFix here.

Here we go.

ChrisFix will have a video of this.

But you believe you could drive it?

Don't tell them anything.

True.

Tell me honestly, do you think you could drive it?

Or how long it takes you to drive it?

What do you mean, do I think I could?

Can you explain that?

Do you think you could drive it?

But what do you mean, what, like,

like, 10 meters round the lap?

A couple laps.

A couple laps.

They've told you how to operate it,

but nothing more than that.

And you have to go for it.

You've got to go for it.

Because obviously-- Well, what's the time of

the conditions being added?

Sorry.

Oh, but you've got to make a lap record.

You have to be minimum 100% for all of all times.

You have to try and go quickly.

I've got to be 100% throttle,

once, on a straight or something.

No, you just have to drive the car on the track.

But like-- That's different to what you just said.

OK, but if I get out of the car back now in

your car and drive it down the road two miles

an hour, that's not driving it.

You know what I mean?

It's not.

But if you said-- I think you're in a court of law.

Yeah, I would say the police,

if they pull the overgo, you would drive it

in that car.

What I mean is that you have to--

I was under two miles an hour.

That doesn't count.

Look, there's a common knowledge that I think

I'm under two.

If I could walk faster, it's not driving.

You are on track.

Therefore, you have to try and go for it quickly.

OK.

Yeah, obviously, I'm in a form of a mongo.

I think it was struggling any more with that.

It works for the hot hatches.

I think I have.

Now, I think you couldn't do it.

But what would you mean, couldn't?

I don't think you have the ability to do it.

What do you mean?

Because I'm in the top grab,

so the biggest thing he said was that he

can't go quick enough to make it actually

perform properly because he's too scared.

Because to make a F1 car actually grip

properly, you have to be going at such a fast speed.

But Will has no wife or children or anything

to live for.

So why would he not go for it?

You've got Lamborghini to live for.

Well, I've got to pay for it.

And if I put that in a wall,

I haven't got to pay for any more.

What I'm saying is I don't think...

I do it hard enough.

I don't think...

I just don't think you could.

But what would you be able to do?

What would you be able to do?

What this sounds like is a future TDC episode

where we're at 20 mil subscribers.

Yeah, like a double XL Formula One car.

I've seen it done.

Okay.

What driven, I've seen it apart.

It's called a...

No, no.

There's videos of people who drive F1 cars,

normies, regular folk, unlike me.

And honestly, it's difficult,

but they don't just start...

I mean, it's not like you're on the sim,

basically.

No, invalidated lap, invalidated lap.

Complete fair, but before that,

I saw a wall hedge.

I didn't marry a tyre.

I never did a wheel channel and went,

"I do that."

Easy, mate.

But perhaps that's why you're approaching it

from how you felt towards it,

whereas Will could drive it on the sim.

You have to believe.

But you haven't got to put like 100 kilograms

of pressure onto the brake pedal to actually

make a stop on a sim.

It's like doing a leg press,

actually.

No, no, but I'm saying your emotional

attempt, not attempt approach to it was that

you came into it going, "I can't do this."

I know I can't do it.

It's very realistic.

Whereas because Will's like alder.

Unrealistic.

There you go.

Unrealistic.

You have to believe.

But I think to a degree that will help you in

that case, because you're just going.

I don't think I'd be quite worried.

If I hide this bad race and get to the car

and goes, "I don't know what I'm doing.

I don't know what I'm doing here.

How am I working this?"

I can't drive that.

You can't quite have any key difference here.

You're using the comparison of Land of

Norris, but he is an F1 driver.

You are not an F1 driver.

But he wasn't always.

He was once a boy with a dream.

Do you reckon him eight years old went,

"Well, I can't drive one now."

So I lost the point.

That's illegal.

I can't drive one.

No, but this is the same as him at eight years old.

I'm going to get in the car and just drive

the F1 car.

He wouldn't say that.

He works by that way.

Now, someone would have gone Gordon in my son.

You would not go to the driver.

I believe that.

Hey, this sounds like a video.

Someone, like, F1 teams hit us up.

I'm willing to do the challenge if you could

get like a really big seat wide.

You can get with an arm rest as well.

A round wheel.

What if they said to you, you have to pass

certain physical fitness things to drive an F1 car?

Let's go.

Would you do them all?

Yeah, I just starved myself.

You've got to get ripped.

Right.

Well, I've got to be ripped.

No, no, no, no.

I just took a picture of the bed.

They just tell you you've got to get ripped

to drive it.

Then some weird.

Judges hit and I want to see topless as well.

Hell.

Yeah, yeah, you drive that F1 car really well.

That's what he's got.

I'll let you drive the F1 car.

Just let me see.

No, I swear.

Let's see the seat fitting.

Just take trousers off.

We just got to get him sat right in the

middle there like that.

What I'm saying is that you've got to get in

really good shape.

Your terms and conditions are so bizarre.

What I'm saying, you've got to get in really good shape.

Would you do it?

Would you put the commitment into getting

really good shape?

Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

That was like a once in a lifetime

opportunity that I'm willing to take any F1

team that owns it.

Hey, run it.

All of the creamers at the MTC right now are going boss.

Boss is a big frat man who wants to drive

with a flat tire.

Right, okay.

Boss is not to be fat but I'll tell you get a trouser.

He said it'd be naked or something.

Okay, we're not going to play with that game.

Okay.

All right, cool.

That's formula one of the week.

It shows how much we know.

Also like two weeks late after

congratulations

He's not listening.

He is listening.

One day we're going to be on the podcast.

Because F1 drivers for the most part,

we don't care.

Well, I don't know anything.

Do you know any of them?

I know, there's a guy called Landon Ores.

I've heard a lot about him this week,

this last week.

Could you know five current ones?

Lewis Hamilton.

He is current, just about.

It's all.

Himi Reichenan?

No.

What?

Okay.

Fernando Alonso?

He is actually.

He's about old, but yeah, just about.

No, I was about to say Jensen Button,

but I've seen him talking on the TV.

(laughing)

It's a nice shirt.

Jensen, mate, you're supposed to be out on track.

(laughing)

Hold on, hold on.

That's three.

That's three.

Is it three?

That is three.

Alonso Hamilton, nice.

Yes.

Two more.

I'm sure I can, I'm sure I can.

Correct, that's why we're here,

we're making you do it.

Oh, the other McLaren, or Piestry.

He's named Oscar, he's named Oscar.

One more.

And he, offbacks just happen.

I know that guy.

He's crazy man.

That's fine, I got out of that spot.

There we go, big F1 podcast that started.

I mean, some of you might like F1.

Can you name five different ones?

Antonelli is one I've seen recently.

Sure.

I think Holkenberg's in there now,

right?

I think he's back.

I think so, yeah.

We'll say yes.

Ocon, is he in there?

Albon, we'll say it.

And who's another one?

We don't know the F1, do you know what?

Who's another one?

Well, you have to say that, that's the point of it.

That's not a fun game, is it?

Now, one last one?

No, he said one other one.

I haven't got it.

Now Zach Brown.

Ben, I would like you to name five people who

are not related to Formula One at all.

Five people.

Yeah.

Okay.

David Attenborough.

Yeah, fine, yeah, fine.

And then obviously Will Smith.

Yeah, he actually goes from there to there.

Well, no mates.

Yeah.

Oh, isn't it?

Oh, isn't it?

Dumbledore.

He's not a real person.

But that's not a person.

Maybe it counts.

No, it doesn't.

Okay, fine.

All right, he's not real.

He's a fictional human being.

Again, mate, Dumbledore.

Roy Macai.

Okay, fine.

No, that's not a person.

Yeah, fine.

You can't just pick random people off the street.

Last one, you've got to come out more.

Only two more.

One more thing is that.

One more person.

You could just say a fake name we would never know.

See, there's so many people in F1,

but it's hard to find out one that isn't.

Now, how do you know they're not in F1 in any

of those people?

Ben, babe, this is a podcast you've got to speak to.

It's really just a--

No, that guy is in F1.

Yeah, he is like quite deep in F1,

actually.

Oh, was it not in F1?

I've got, I've panicked.

Again, one first.

What was it in F1?

Literally, anyone.

One person, I went to BP earlier and there's

a lady that served me.

Did she count?

I don't think she's in it, so that's all good.

I actually proved she isn't.

BP could be a part-time job.

Yeah?

That's five people.

That's five people.

Cool.

But anyway, if Landon Aris is listening,

we'd like you on the podcast and we've

probably ruined it by what you've just said.

No, no.

Because he's one of the people of all time

who actually has cool cars.

He is one of the five people who is in F1,

so we should get him onto it.

Well, did you see there was a rumor?

Okay.

This is a rumor I'm gonna talk about.

It could be one of those Chinese news sites

making this up.

No idea about Hamilton wanted to make a,

he's now Ferrari, and he did that very cool

photo in front of the F-40.

F-44?

Yeah, he wanted to make an F-44,

which is basically a modern day F-40 with a

manual gearbox, modern day things and stuff.

Retro styling still.

And that apparently Ferrari said,

"Uh-uh, not on my watch."

Yeah.

Because we got more druss to get out.

More pressing issues.

And apparently not very happy about that.

I don't know how real this is,

but again, this could be news.com,

some random site at the bottom of the website

is for fame.

I'm trusting news.com.

I'm trusting news.com.

(laughs)

In name alone, it's quite trustworthy.

News.LT, check news.com.

It goes to CNET, so that's fine.

I believe that.

Okay, all right, I believe it,

but that would have been cool.

So, Ferrari, get your thumb out of your bum.

Okay.

And let's make the car.

To make, I feel like Ben at this stage,

I've just seen a title in some news stories.

That's gospel.

And I've gone, that's news.

Let's get that story accused of me.

That's news.com.

(laughs)

What else have we got?

We don't actually have too much left,

but we do have an important update.

Ben, you've put in here.

Mr.

Bagger.

Mr.

Bagger.

I must get my phone, it's on charge.

Billy Gen Z's always going for their phone.

Right, I message Mr.

Bagger.

Mr.

Bagger.

I have not received a response.

I'm just done checking now, sent on Friday.

You're in his requests?

I am.

You've actually got a good amount of followers.

But he's a private account, so I had to

request a message to know how that went.

You can't follow up now.

No, you've got more message.

Invitation sent, you can send more messages

after your invitation.

If you use your message again,

please, no one go ill message.

No, don't message him, leave it.

If you know him personally, just give him a nudge.

Yeah, don't message him, please.

This is proof of research for us.

Of course.

Now, Ben, what did you say?

I said, hi, mate.

I've got a slightly weird one.

Mate with American, interesting.

They don't say that.

You palm.

What was I saying?

Hi, Mr.

Bugger.

Well, that sounds--

Addressing by his form on that.

Exactly.

Please.

Hi, mate, got a slightly weird one here for you.

I actually said I produced for the podcast,

I don't, but I thought it would be--

Sorry, I produced for the podcast.

Sounds a little bit ifier from what I said.

Oh, he's for the podcast.

Sounds like a part of the culture.

Well, I didn't want it to be like,

I'm a random man that wants information about you.

I want it to give a bit of context as I

produce for an automated podcast called Cream

Brackets Cars, Rule Everything Around Me.

US for Monterey Car Week.

Can we mention that?

What?

No, never.

This year and came across your car with the plate,

Mr.

Bugger.

Look, Bugger, did we?

I don't remember, I think we just drove past it.

I said, good context for him.

Big English, the phrase "bugger" is used

fairly regularly.

Oh, but here with the--

Where was this three?

Which created quite a cob with in-joke between us.

I said, I was mentioning it recently on our

podcast, one of our viewers sent us a photo

of your car, I believe, from Reddit,

leading us directly to you.

We'd love to hear more about the story of the

car, the mods, and most importantly,

how the plate, Mr.

Bugger came about.

Let me know if you'd be happy to tell us

more, thanks Ben.

Very, very, very inspirational.

We want to hear more about the origin story,

about the modifications, about how it came to be.

That's what we want.

57:11 Mr. Bagger DM Attempt and Christmas Plans

I heard, I know.

What's wrong with that?

I've done a brief bit of research on Bugger.

Okay.

I've looked.

Yeah, there is an answer.

There is an answer.

Do you know what Bugger means?

No, no, but not our Bugger.

A different Bugger.

Okay.

I just typed in, Bugger.

USA slang.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Okay, in my opinion.

And Google AI could be dog shit.

Yeah, could be, I don't know.

It says the term Bugger, as B-U-G-G-A,

is used in Hawaiian Pigeon.

Oh, okay, okay, interesting.

As a casual term for a person.

No, no.

Don't really, a male.

Different Pigeon.

The term is much more common as a mild

profanity or exclamation of annoyance in the

UK, Australia or New Zealand.

In Hawaiian Pigeon, an example of it would

be, the Bugger is always late.

Now, okay, it's quite similar.

So it's quite similar, but what that would

still imply is if he used as bad,

he has played as Mr.

Man.

(laughing)

But it's still, he would still be Mr.

Bugger.

Yeah, it's just as casual term.

It's not like it's a, you know.

It might be his name, I think.

You think his name's Bugger?

I think that possibly from the context I

have, I think that might just be his name.

So the tale of Mr.

Bugger continues.

It is Mr.

Man.

And do you know what, it's gonna have to

happen is we're gonna have to track him down

when we're there.

We'll have to find him.

It's a recognizable car.

We'll be going back and we'll be finding Mr.

Bugger once again.

He may respond to DM, I would hope so.

Maybe we will get a, Christmas miracle,

because next Thursday is Christmas Day.

It is Christmas.

Yes, so you will be getting Christmas creaming.

Merry Christmas.

And maybe Mr.

Bugger will visit us, he'll slide that up to me.

(laughing)

What's the hand of the tree?

It's Mr.

Bugger.

This year, Christmas falls on a Thursday,

which is cream release date.

And also, Thursday New Year's Day.

I've been trying to convince these guys,

we'll get the podcast on ahead of time,

and we can release the podcast at midnight.

So, first thing, we will, so the next cream

will be a Christmas creaming,

and we'll get some tinsel up,

we'll get a little festivity.

We will, and hats, and we've decided to do a

little secret Santa between us.

Which we will know who had everyone,

because it's--

Yes, this one.

I've got you.

What?

I've got you.

No, I've got you.

If you've got me.

Who's driving me?

Who's got who?

I've got Edwin.

So, we've got a secret Santa.

I've got you.

Which we've got--

Which really--

I have got Phil Will.

Yes, correct.

That's good.

I've actually genuinely got you.

I don't believe you.

I think you bought me a clown costume.

Edwin, I told you what I bought.

I've seen it.

I've seen it.

I've seen it.

It's horrible.

Yeah, terrible.

Mean.

I told you.

Yeah.

It was nice.

It's just mean.

Okay, well, you will join us next week when

we have our Christmas special.

Thank you very much for listening to this

week's episode of Car's Rule Everything Around Me.

We will see you next week.

Merry Christmas.

No, I can't say that yet.

Merry Christmas in a week.

See you next Christmas.

It's Christmas.

Only a week away.

(laughing)