300k Mile Huracan, The Ugly New Juke and a GT3 Convertible - C.R.E.A.M. #79

0:00 Introduction and Auction Update

Can I feel my passengers knee next to me?

Absolutely.

Can I feel the person behind me's knee in my back?

Absolutely.

But at least my car looks like a piece of shit.

I don't

have the same thing.

I really like cars.

I go through hours

of my day where I don't think about cars.

Tough.

I hate to

hear that.

Everyone has their own taste.

They're like bum

holes.

Everyone's got them.

And none of them taste great.

So

this Sunday I'm going to an auction.

As many of you have

already figured out.

There is a mercy logo coming up for an

auction at Bonham's this weekend on Sunday.

I'm not totally confident because it's a very

sought after car, but there's little details

about it that give me some hope that it is possible.

So the Glado is gone.

It's basically gone.

The Range Rover is going, basically gone.

The Clio is gone.

There is a new daily, which I'll speak about

in a moment.

And the only thing left is the McGahn.

But yeah, most of our auction this weekend,

next week's podcast, we will know the result.

time that you're hearing this,

the auction law have already been,

it is happening for us in a few days,

but that is in the future.

So you may be sitting there listening to

this, and will maybe a Merci Lago Anna?

I might not be.

I could be the saddest man alive.

The next podcast will either be a very joyous

or a very sad one.

It's not, it has been stressing me out for weeks.

And I can't actually wait for it the date to be gone.

It's done like whatever the result is,

then it's done and dusted.

It's confirmed.

But I have done so much research.

doing numbers, seeing research on auction

prices, trying to figure out what's what.

But realistically, I just need to wait.

The auction is the auction.

I have asked some questions earlier,

just to see if there was a possibility of

buying it beforehand.

But yeah, these calls are worth so much money.

And there's so many people interested.

I don't know.

And there is a potentially very interesting backup.

If that's a go-off.

But we won't talk about that.

We won't jinx it.

We're not going to say anything either way.

Good luck, Will, for the future and past.

I don't know about the backup.

You know about that.

You know about the backup.

It's the very well-known one.

You know about this.

We'll talk about it anyway.

But so that's a possibility.

But on the absolute other end of the

spectrum, the video will be out in a week or

two, I guess.

I think it's probably a couple of weeks.

We won't reveal any prices, but you've bought

a new daily.

There are two Alfa159s at the moment.

What does that mean?

There's one outside that was very cheap.

And there's one behind us, which was

basically the exact same price.

And there was a budget.

And I came under budget.

Yeah.

Quite considerably.

So the one that's outside, I have actually

been driven to work two times now.

And it seems to be going okay.

It's not quite the respect I was looking for,

but the one behind me is, so the idea being I

bought two, the one behind us,

which is a black TI, which is a nice spec,

is not the right engine, not the right gearbox.

And it's a bit of a dog.

This one really is a breaker for the money,

but I wanted it for the interior.

So the plan is to make one good car out of

two, but I bought this car Facebook marketplace.

Lovely.

A sight of dreams.

A lovely guy, but he felt a little bit dodgy.

Yeah.

There's different names handed out.

But obviously today's podcast is sponsored by

Car Vertical once again, and they came in

clutch on this car because I couldn't go and

see it because it was miles away.

And it was cheap enough that I kind of was

happy for someone to go and get it and bring it back.

But obviously I wanted to run a car vertical.

There were little elements of the sale where

I thought, is this guy just trying to furb it off?

Like even though it's a cheap car,

does it have finance on it?

as it been crashed or something like that.

So ran a car

vertical check on it and actually this car

came back really

clean.

It's just got 220,000 miles.

It's had a lot of work

and it's just a little bit rough,

but car vertical was all

good.

So

5:00 S2000 Trip and Gift Exchange

(C)

(C) Yes, I think you showed it did show up.

That's true, right?

(C) I showed up utilities and then left.

(C) That will get onto that very briefly.

(C) Where's the food and fuel?

(C) A long way to go.

(C) Saturday, yes.

(C) Yes.

(C) And what, the S2000?

(C) You did it.

(C) And we said it couldn't be done.

(C) It was great.

(C) Drove it up and down to Bista.

And yeah, it was good.

That was a shout out to everyone that we met.

(C) What do you feel towards the car?

(C) Doing that trip.

(C) I just don't know about that way.

(C) So you found that.

(C) You know what Ben, I don't think your

heart's in it with the S2000.

(C) No, it is.

I like it a lot.

I don't know, I bought it back from...

(C) Yeah, back from the storage.

(C) They're back from here.

I went home, I went to get a fuel.

And there's a stretch from the unit to the

fuel station, which was quite nice.

And I had the roof down sunset.

That was good.

(C) Do you think it's you need more sun?

(C) Yeah, sun.

I think you need that noise.

You need to get that done.

(C) It's not made for them that way.

So it wasn't the best journey up and down.

The goal is better for that.

(C) Even though going to a show is good,

it ain't going for a drive.

It's not going for a blast.

It's cool to see it.

Surely it must have been nice to see it shiny.

Looking clean with all the other stuff.

People pointing out your car.

(C) That was nice.

The other thing was that I was just worried

about again, dirty.

(C) I heard you got a great

gift.

(C) Somebody gave me a bottle bag.

A gift bag.

(C) A gift bag.

We opened it and it was just a bottle of oil.

(C) No to oil though.

(C) I haven't told you that.

(C) However did that very clean work.

(C) Jokes on you, I needed some.

So thanks very much for that.

(C) Shout out to everyone we met because we

met a lot of people.

You were all very lovely and it was nice to

meet some creamers in real life.

(C) Shout out to the creamers.

I want to get back on to that.

We're not done with you yet.

I'm just going to go into my ruin a little

bit for a second, which was because I turned

up to feel and feel.

I had three of my cars there.

My eight series came back from Chris at

Imagination Creations.

Super happy with that.

Over the moon.

Got that transported.

Got my girlfriend to drive the Clio because I

was like this would be great.

I'll drive the Tuscan.

Ben, you saw a sight out of your hotel.

Yeah, I was about to leave at the hotel.

I opened the curtains and I was open the curtains.

It looked out on to...

It's not a dual-carriage weight like a

multi-lane road with a roundabout.

I call it a dual-carriage weight.

Onto a round.

But not like a seven-mile-hour thing,

just like a main road, right?

I don't know why I was specifying this.

I opened the window and no one ever liked.

The first thing I saw was a green TV art just

doing a skid.

I opened the window first bit of daylight and

it was just...

I was already at the show by then,

so it wasn't me, obviously.

It really shouldn't be, though.

Exactly.

I arrived there bright and early,

happy, excited to see everyone.

And then I thought, I feel a bit weird.

I'll spare you the details, but all ends of

me were upset all day.

All ends.

All ends.

Oh, all right.

Every year.

Now that was the details.

No, it could get worse.

What I will say is I was like,

I'm just gonna find my way through.

This is fine.

And then I will, I need to throw up.

And so I ran to the toilet cubicles and there

was, I was in the line, the toilet cubicles,

trying not to throw up and the guy find me in

the line said, I really like videos,

lots of stuff.

I was like, oh, thank you very much,

man.

Trying not to throw up while saying thank you.

He said, can I get a video?

Can I get a photo with you?

And I was like, yeah, you should go.

And so we took a photo and then the toilet

cubicle opened up and the man who would have

just taken a photo would have watched me walk

into the toilet cubicle and violently throw up.

And it was after that point,

it deteriorated more and I had to get my

girlfriend to drive me home.

Sorry, I'm sorry that I missed all of you.

I was actually really upset that I missed it

because it was looking like it was going to

be a great day.

And that's why we don't eat seafood pizzas

before we go to food and food and food.

From

9:11 Ben's Experience at Food and Fuel Event

an Italian restaurant that you've never been to before.

That's exactly it.

So you know what?

Listen, see you at Shedfest.

I apologize profusely.

But it was, oh yeah, that's a small rule.

But let's go back to you, ruin for that.

Ben, let's go back to you because I've heard something.

I heard lots of rumblings from things I've missed.

Shut up.

You had some issues getting in.

No, I didn't.

How many issues getting in?

I made a pie.

I had said one thing, which I thought I'd

just say it.

Right.

Because this came from, this came from your girlfriend.

She was there.

I witnessed statement.

Yeah.

There was no one else.

There's no you heard it here third.

This came from the horse mouth.

Just want to let everyone know that this

isn't true, but go on.

I don't think it isn't not true.

It isn't true.

No, no, no, no.

Let's just say that.

Perhaps the meaning was different and the hat.

Perhaps there was some mumbling involved.

Here's what we'll do.

We'll tell the sources story and then we'll

let, you know, the defendant rebut.

A source close to Benjamin Rogers told us on

Saturday he arrived at the event and we had

these like staff passes basically.

All going fine so far.

And he showed the staff passes.

Is this still correct?

We got there.

I don't want to hear anymore.

Just yes or no, please.

You show the pass to the attendant.

Yes, sir.

Correct.

Just yes is fine.

And they didn't recognize your pass.

Is that correct?

No.

That's not correct.

I just, I just showed it to them and then I said.

Oh, okay.

That's worse.

That's worse.

That is worse.

The story has really taken a turn.

So you showed them the pass that already said

you are staff and not only were they cool

with that, like they were happy to go with

that.

You then looked at them, dead in the eyes and

said, I

am the show.

I was told is that your pass,

they weren't, they weren't, they weren't

gelling with the pass.

They weren't happy with it.

And when they said, you said to try and

bolster your credentials that,

well, I don't have a staff, I am the show.

Take a look around, buddy.

There you go.

No, I am the most arrogant man alive.

Arrived of food and fuel.

No, I'll tell the real story.

Please.

I arrived at food and fuel at just before

about 8.30 a.m.

which is earlier than when other people like

the spectators arrive.

They arrive at 10.30.

Quick flex on the spectators.

You were told to get there early,

so I got there early and I was quite tired

and you know.

Race driver excuses for us.

Sure, yeah.

So as I arrived at the gate,

the gate was actually shut before.

Famously, how gates work?

Well, the spectators, they'll be an attendant there.

So there's a man in a box next to the gate

who, in my front, said stuff.

He was in the box.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, tell the story.

So we have this pass on our phone.

Yep.

And I showed it to them and basically he

looked at me confused.

I showed it to him and I said,

I'm with the event.

It's what I said.

Now, in doing that, I did mumble.

And while my girlfriend hurt,

I turned around and he went,

yeah, no worries, mate.

Let me throw.

I looked around to look at my girlfriend who

looked fairly shocked.

And she said, why did you say that?

And I said, what do you mean?

And then she heard me say, I am the event,

which is not what I said at all.

But she didn't proceed to find it very funny

to tell everyone else.

And then-- Ben was deeply disappointed.

But when it came out, I could see his face,

just look, as if to say, they're going to

both find out about it.

was it?

I literally, I looked across and I said,

this is great.

This one's got legs.

Was it, was it spengate?

Was that feeling of that, you know,

sinking feeling of?

No, because that was, that, that,

that, that, at least that happened.

No, she didn't hit, I was just mumbled.

I'm not denying I'm mumbled,

but I didn't send the guy might have heard that.

We need to get the, the gate attendance side

of the story.

If you're a creamer, please do get in time.

Why would I say that?

Well, after all, it's your show.

I hate it.

I hate it.

Because it's not true.

I am the Senate.

So, yeah, so I just

have, so what is that, a rule or a ruin overall?

Well, that situation was very much a ruin,

wasn't it?

But overall was a rule.

Okay.

It was a good show though.

It was a really good show.

It was actually almost double,

it was double, almost treble,

I think the size in terms of people,

the cars, it was like the car park before.

It felt pretty big,

13:28 Upcoming Car Shows and Events

but Matt, this time it was, the grass just

was cars as far as the cars,

words are not coming out.

Cars as far as the eye can see.

It's probably nearly 4000, I think,

even more.

Wow.

So the next one will be Shellsley Walsh

August the 11th.

Yeah, 22nd.

I know.

I think it's that still one,

isn't it?

And there's another one at Vista?

And then one in October at Vista.

It's similar to what we did last weekend.

It's just a really cool, genuinely,

for us, I know we're part of it.

I think we should have said this before,

but it's the only car show where there's good food.

And for us big boys, that matters.

The food there is amazing.

Shout out Tacos L.

Pat, which is Lathan Patworth,

who is the guy that I bought the beat parts off.

He was there last weekend.

Oh, really?

Yeah, and you saw him?

I didn't.

I wasn't.

That wasn't that sense.

That's all right.

Had a lovely pizza.

Well, what'd you have to say?

I had four head gurt wings.

It was, it was, it was lovely.

It really was lovely.

Nice.

Nice.

I, I'm going to say, I am, but despite that,

right, putting that aside, I'm a rule,

because the eight series came back.

Yeah.

And it looks, looks really, really good.

I've, that car, I think I talked about it on podcast.

I said I was going to sell it,

because I wanted to, I wanted to free up some

money, and I'd be very sad about selling it,

but it was probably time, it was probably

time to do it.

I then, what'd you do?

Well, I kept logical step.

It was, was kept it.

I kept it.

But what'd you do?

The next logical step, I'm going to sell the car.

So what are you going to do?

You're going to keep it.

I, right.

It's the same reason that I haven't sold the C.R.E.A.M.

equipment into it.

need work to people.

Because I hate the idea of, if it going to

someone, and then that person has a really

tough time or hates it, I hate that idea.

I'd rather sell it, which is probably what

I'm going to do with the C55,

just send it to be like we buy any car or something.

So the eight series, I knew there was bits of

rust under the arch.

I could probably have gotten away with selling it.

But I thought, let me just give it to Chris

at Imagination Creations, let him like,

sand it back and just see how bad the rust is.

It turned out the rust is bad.

Like, quite bad.

It needed two recorders entirely.

So at that point, he was like,

look, man, I can do the two recorders and the

front wing that it needs.

But now 60% of the cars can be mismatched to

the other 40% that's original.

Shall we do?

Do you just want to keep it and then go

around the whole car?

So that's what we did.

And there should be a video a few weeks of

that of getting that back and doing some bits

and bobs of it.

But it looks amazing.

I'm so glad I kept it now.

So I'm a rule for that.

That's my main reason.

It's tucked away at home.

Yeah, no, it came back.

I still need to do some other bits to get it

back on the road.

The exhaust is how you say disconnected from

the rest of the exhaust.

So it doesn't have an MOT and you need to get that done.

But I need to do, I need to re-trim the

interior, because now the grey interior,

not working.

It's always been the worst part of that car.

Really?

It's quite tough.

Agreed.

So nice, I'm thinking like a dark room.

Yeah.

Will it not now be here for summer?

Yes, no, I will.

What I want to do, I'm going to get the the

headlining, because as we all know,

the headlining, it's it's it's like a billy old tent.

It just kind of waves around.

I'm going to redo that with some scrim with

some scrim in brown scrim, I think is what we'll do.

And then I'll scream.

I've got a scrim here.

Yeah, three three mill scrim.

Okay.

There's a big thing back when he bought it.

He's actually tucked it away for the shapekeeping.

Yeah, you know, it's actually somewhere up there.

So yeah, we're going to redo the interior of

that car at some point, also speaking to

impulse, that car's going to be cool.

And then a little bit of a nice upgrade on

the automatic to a ZF, but I'm off about that car.

Let's move on.

automatic, though.

That's three rules.

That's three rules.

We love to see a tenuous one.

Also, I could easily switch to ruins.

I saw my blue clear.

Oh, yeah.

I didn't feel that was very sad,

although then I did.

Yeah, it did almost not make it in.

It broke down literally of entering the event.

But it did make it there.

Nonetheless, it was very upsetting.

No, no, no.

I'm not going, I'm doing something bad,

please.

But yes, also on my door handle for love and I'm again.

Anyway, So we can go to a neckdote.

Sure.

A neckdote one, not included in the sale.

I put this in last week because I'm tired.

Okay.

This is mainly of, this is mainly God words.

This is mainly modified car.

Yeah.

Enthusiastic type car adverts

where someone will list a car.

You say, "Oh, wow, look at

that car.

That's really caught my eye."

Yep.

Due to

possibly the wheels, the modifications,

whatever is on it.

And then you read through it and go,

"Not included in the sale is the wheels and

steering wheel, the turbo, the engine,

the seat, whatever it is."

And I'm like, "Why do that?"

Do you know what?

I have a theory.

I have a theory it's because it's when the

car looks good, you go and take that photo

that you're like, "Oh, that's a good looking car."

Yeah.

But then you go around and I'm going to sell it.

I'm going to keep those wheels,

but you go, "I don't know how many photos of

it on the other wheels looking good."

So you put that one up there to get everyone's attention.

Yeah.

Be a noise me.

I do the same thing.

But it just screams of, you're just not

prepared to sell it.

Yeah.

Basically.

It's like, so if I wanted to come and see the

car, it isn't ready to go.

No.

I can't come and view the car because you're

like, "Oh, I've got to get the wheel."

And it'll always be, "Oh, I need to get the

wheels, but they're on my unit and then my dad's unit."

And all the other wheels there.

I've spread all four wheels at four corners

of the country and I've got to get those back

and also, or it doesn't come on the plate.

I've got to take the plate, just prep the car

for sale and put it up for sale.

I once went to go and look at an E36 that

didn't come with wheels and there was no backup wheels.

There were no wheels.

I have heard posts where they'd bring your own wheels.

That's exactly what I had to do.

I went to go and look at a black 36 saloon.

This was where I was maybe 19 or 20.

I had never owned a BMW up until that point.

So I went out and bought stock E36 wheels to

go and look at the car.

The car turned out to be a dog.

So I went home and then had to sell E36

wheels that I had no use for.

There's always a post where it will say it's

eight grand as it sits

or it'll be six and a half with the wheels or

five with the wheels and the shifter.

But it's like, but what I'm being left with?

What are you giving me instead?

I was like, why am I going with your value

for whatever that part?

is you just am I just giving you whatever

above market value is for these wheels?

I just don't I don't like it.

Also, I think just list the if you're going

to take parts off, take the parts off and

sell them separately.

It's you know, it's probably not that bad of

an issue, but it does anger me for some reason.

That's your rent of the week.

I'm

19:48 Forum Question on Gated Manuals vs Standard Manuals

a little out of the week.

Don't do that.

Just prep your car for sale.

Also, don't do photos where there's three

different you're in eight different environments.

Agreed.

Here's a photo of me.

I mean, some of the things we've seen.

Here's my car at the Nurburgring.

Okay, great.

Here's my car in the rain.

Here's my car in the dark.

Here's my car at the side of the road.

With the snapper over what different wheels

would it exhaust?

I'm like, what car am I buying?

It's going to put people off,

no matter what.

So sort it out, guys.

What we got, actually, we need a guide.

Right.

Second anecdote.

It's not an anecdote.

We're throwing in a curveball.

This is going to be a forum early doors.

I mean, may even, depending on Benjamin's

condition, have a second forum later on.

This is crazy.

No one's ever seen this before.

This is a cream forum sandwich for you.

Here we go.

This is from Abby Zeke.

Hello, I have Instagram.

Hey, Ben.

Little form question for cream.

This is just for you then.

For cream.

No cream.

I am the show.

We've heard

about gated manuals on the Lambo and the

Ferrari, the boys drove.

But I was wondering, what is the difference

both engineering wise and driving feel wise

from a gated manual?

standard manual.

Interesting.

Okay.

Interesting.

Well, the basic difference is that a normal

manual, you have a leather boot.

And if you remove it, sure, why not?

And if you remove that boot,

you will find nothing.

It just goes down to the gearbox.

The gearbox is there and the shift pattern is

inside the gearbox.

The gated manual has a plate that kind of

sits on top by the gear shifter.

That is what is limiting you going into different gears.

It holds you in that pattern.

But the reason that people care about it from

a driving standpoint is because you get a nice click.

You get this auditory clack into each gear

and it just feels, it feels a lot more mechanical.

I guess is the right word to use.

It doesn't necessarily need it.

No, such.

If you took a plate off, you'd still change gears.

It will still work.

It's obviously gated.

It means also, I'm assuming,

I don't know, maybe there's like an old

motorsport thing in there.

I don't know where it's like you are assured

to go into the gear that you're looking for.

I don't know.

That's just me making shit up off the top of

my head, that I don't know if maybe an older

gearbox was a bit more of a slop machine.

But yeah, also because it's metal and metal normally.

So you have that noise.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I don't want to hear that noise from you again.

It is there to provide extreme precision,

prevent driver error, brackets,

mischifts and protect high performance gearboxes.

Yeah, so to stop you from wazzing it in the

wrong way, it is very difficult to miss.

Yeah.

To actually miss a gear because everything is

so separate.

Because of that valley it sits in,

the area that it clicks into gear,

you can't move it left or right.

Yeah, it feels a lot more.

Sure.

That noise, fine with.

Any of that makes sense?

Yeah.

I think it does.

I tried to say.

It's not, how many cars really,

it's an Italian thing really.

Yeah.

And our rates have, and there's other than

that, not really.

I always used to want it when I was like 19

or 20, when I had a Brere, I was like,

I said manual, it's an Italian car.

In hindsight, that would have been dreadful.

People do it on MX-5s, especially when they

do, well, they just, they do it on MX-5s in

general, but especially when they do the kick

cars, and you see these horrible,

nasty plate that's also too thin,

so it doesn't make the noise.

That's the one thing, the plates on a gated

manual are very thick, so that there's no

movement in that metal when you do it.

If it's too thin, you just get like a really

nasty clicky noise, and it's not good.

You've forgotten something.

What's that then?

Shiny.

Yeah, sure.

And that as well.

Magpie type beat.

Love a shiny knob.

Not always shiny, though.

No.

Diablo one, isn't it?

But the actual metal plate is in.

But the actual metal plate looks,

I don't think it's a plastic one.

That's why I never liked the R8 ones,

'cause they always look, they don't sound the

same, they sound a bit more.

But yeah, I'm a big fan of a gated manual,

I really am.

How about you have one on like a Nerch Lago?

Do you enjoy that?

Maybe not, maybe next week.

Well, we'll all, how'd it go in one?

I would say that the gated manual in the

Nerch Lago is considerably nicer than the Gallardo one.

I feel a theory for that one,

I think it's because there are kinder cables,

but in the Nerch Lago you're changing gear

like at the gearbox, whereas in a Gallardo

there is a cable going all the way to the back.

Ben's got a question.

And also, for those listening,

we won't know if Will's won the Nerch Lago

for a week or so.

Who knows?

To tie you over, perhaps tomorrow night

there'll be a little video of the Nerch Lago

that we drive.

Is that true?

Yes, it's true.

Shut up Blake Sandberg, let us drive his

mercy Lago in America.

We also realized that we would have said yes

after him saying, "Do you want to drive the car?"

I said, "Yeah, there'll be a video sometime soon."

Nine weeks.

And then nine months later, there's nothing

so people ask, baby.

Did he think, did I just let three random

guys throw my car for no reason?

No, we are a YouTube channel.

We'll make a video.

Yeah, elaborate scam.

He looks over at the GoPro, there's no light on me.

But that is coming.

What we got next?

What we have next is car silhouette dealer.

There you go.

Edward and I spoke about this the other day.

I think it was a car we saw for sale or

something we saw somewhere.

It is, yeah.

Why does every workshop, body shop,

anything a tuning place, a car dealership,

they have the silhouette?

Now, it's not always the same silhouette.

No, but it is a variation.

It is always a silhouette of some variety.

We've got it on the screen here and it's not

a full silhouette.

It's the very edge of the light leaks as if

you were to take it.

Like a very grandeurismo shops.

Like a sort of teaser or something.

Yeah.

Where do they come from?

And it will say auto house.

Auto cars.

Or the motor lounge.

Cars?

Limited, limited.

(laughs)

No shade to any of those companies,

but it's always this.

But I think it's time for a change.

Ben, you must now come up with,

it's gonna be the international symbol of a

car dealer, a car tuner.

The new go-to, what's it gonna be?

You know the London Underground?

Sure.

That logo, but it's a wheel with the text

going through the middle.

And it says cars.

Yeah.

Okay, nice.

Or dealers.

Cars for London.

That's for free that one, but that's the only

one you're gonna get.

Okay, well that's what you're doing.

I would go with, it's a cog.

Ooh, the smallest one?

It's gearbox, it's a cog.

It's a cog with a wrench, sort of a hammer and sickle.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Hammer and sickle?

Yeah, sort of that style a bit soviet,

but sort of the modern tone.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

And it's the people's mechanic.

It is absolutely, everything's the question

of the same.

I'm just taking the actual logo from the cars

movie that like the Chevy Bel Air V with the word cars.

Okay, okay.

And that's it, everyone must use the same cars.

Okay.

Cars will now, whether you're a mechanic,

whether you're a car dealer,

we're all cars at the end of the day.

I think what we've all come up with is pretty dreadful.

Yeah, no, no better.

Do you know what, continue with the

silhouettes you find?

Well, I like to look at the silhouette and

go, what car is that?

Yeah.

'Cause sometimes it is,

I've got to do it.

But that was, it was sort of like a TT mixed

with a advantage, but then some of them are,

they're just straight up a car.

It's a GTR or something like that.

Car?

Where did you, who chose this?

I wanna know, who's making them?

Someone's making a load of money out.

Someone's selling a silhouette.

Someone on Fiverr, is that a great thing?

We are in the wrong business.

Perhaps TDC's logo will change.

You know what, as a little bit of cream merch.

Yeah.

You just have cream, but with a silhouette.

Car logo.

It's just a ninky-nog silhouette.

Cream cars, limited, limited motor trade,

limited.

Next up on anecdotes is a piece of news.

Let me news to you.

Third, third, third.

A TVR sound fire.

Right, look, we've said this before.

We appreciate

27:39 TVR Tuscan Fire Incident and Community Reaction

the contact from everyone, and it's the 90%

of you understand.

I have received more messages about this

bloody TVR on fire than I have perhaps anything else.

I'd say upwards of three to 400 people have

sent me this.

I know, okay?

Please, I'm not trying to be ungrateful,

but yes, I'll put a video up here if you haven't seen.

Very sad.

Really sad, there's a guy on Instagram called

Tuscan_Speed.

He had a beautiful flip paint Tuscan.

I don't, from memory, I've been,

it's either exactly swordfish or very close swordfish.

But yeah, he tried to start it up.

I had a load of people saying,

check your fuel lines, check your fuel lines.

From what I can tell, it's not the fuel lines.

Fuel lines aren't really the issue.

They're not that much of an issue on Tuscan.

One of the biggest issues on them is they can

backfire on a startup.

They have an enclosed air box that you can't get to.

Remember the bonnet is not accessible.

The backfire goes back into the plastic

intake, catches on the air filter and it goes

up and flames and you can't,

you can't get to it.

So it's, it's quite hard to save.

But unfortunately, yeah, that car is now,

is gone, is dead.

So very shout out to you.

Sorry, you had to deal with that.

I cannot imagine how, how upsetting that would be.

Also just nothing you can do to stop.

Nothing, nothing you can do to talk to you.

But luckily, no one hurts.

No house destroyed.

No, I think he just said there was a some hedge singe.

Yeah.

And some other sort of burns elsewhere,

but nothing major.

It is just a car, but it is a TV.

I'm scared.

It's quite in a very nice car.

So, yeah, sad.

I thought it was AI at first.

That smoke looked kind of crazy,

but then I also saw a video from the after.

After the office is very sad.

Yeah.

I saw people even in the after off being

like, that's AI, obviously.

Yeah.

I'm going to stage my car burning down.

and then do a follow-up video risking people

finding out by posting more AI.

Yeah.

Nice one, Sam.

And Sharon's company are onto it now,

buddy.

Speaking of TVRs, you're having some trouble

with the Tuscan owners.

Okay.

Now, I've been debating talking about this

for a while.

I think I might have actually talked about it before.

The TVR Tuscan owners group,

it's a close-knit bunch of people who are

very passionate about the TVR Tuscan.

I joined it over a year ago when we were

doing our Tuscan versus N3 Supercharge video.

I put a post in there saying,

"Does anybody have a Tuscan they'd let me drive?"

We'd like to do this video.

And about two months later, I went back to it

'cause I was like, "I don't know,

let me see what Tuscan was around."

And I couldn't find the group anymore on my

Facebook, it was gone.

That's weird.

Let me look on someone else's Facebook and

the group was there.

Still private, I couldn't see it,

but I had been banned.

I was like, "Okay, well, clearly they weren't

happy about me going in there and asking for

something as far as type B."

And so what I did, maybe a little bit

sneakily, is I got my girlfriend's Facebook

and I joined the Tuscan only group again.

And that worked until about,

'cause it was right when I was bidding on my

car, I wanted to see if anybody had posted on it.

And I checked a week and a half ago,

and my girlfriend had been banned.

And I was like, "What's going on?

Why is the sleeping man?"

So I went and found the admin on her page,

and there he was.

So I was like, "Right, let me message him my Facebook."

He'd blocked me.

I couldn't find his account because he'd blocked me.

I think he'd blocked me too.

So they've taken some sort of offense to me.

So you're still out in the cold.

So I then sent a new request for my

girlfriend's thing saying, "Hello,

my name is Edwin."

I'm not my girlfriend.

What's going on here?

Can you please add me back?

'Cause I'm an owner now.

I have one of these cars.

What do I need to do?

And do you know what happened?

They just accepted her.

No response to me.

So she's now back in.

So I'm now browsing from her profile,

but not from mine.

And they're not responding to me.

They won't say anything.

Do not go in and try and sort it out yourselves.

You bunch of choppers.

That's not for you to do, please.

But perhaps it's someone you outbid.

They took it real serious.

Someone in there's like, "No,

no, he cannot be in here."

And he owns one now.

"No, keep him out of this."

How dare he.

So that's what I put in there.

It's Fort Knox.

I'll be monitoring my different attempts to get access.

It feels a bit mission impossible.

I'm like joining with different accounts.

I'm using VPN.

If you go from anywhere from England,

they go, "No."

It's bit neighborhood watch type.

They just sort of feel gathered together.

And we all agreed Edwin is banned.

Yeah, God, I believe the reason is if nobody

posts, if you're not active enough,

they get rid of you.

So if you're not posting, because I never posted.

But, Craig, why Facebook groups turn into

this weird little cult thing?

where it's like, "No, you're not one of us."

Yeah.

We're going to do that with the creamers.

If you're not active and you're not chatting

in the comments, you're out.

You're gone.

Don't even dare say that you're a cream man.

People

listening in the car.

No, no, no, wait.

The office DM.

I think this is something both you and I were

told about at Food and Fuel,

no less.

I don't know anything.

Do you want to say it?

Because you'll say it better than I will.

For

sure.

But I'll take it up.

You've finished me off.

If you could ping the photo over to Edwin,

this is in relation to the office.

I believe in the US office.

I've never watched it.

I have never watched it.

I've never watched it.

I've only seen clips.

I think clips are enough.

But there is a model car on someone's desk.

I know this.

I know this.

Is it Stan Lee's desk?

No.

Why do I remember seeing this?

You're not a car, is it?

Is it next K8?

It's a 36-vert.

Yeah, it's a 36-vert.

But there's just this model and apparently

it's in there for a bunch of different

episodes, but a very nice chap who at us at

Food and Fuel last weekend and also last year

as well said, "I have a little anecdote for you."

This is just a randomly 36 model that's just

in there throughout loads of our office episodes.

Always there.

So what's the source of this?

Yeah.

It's a 36-vert.

It is a 36-vert.

Yeah, the worst of them.

Yeah.

But there we go.

I'd like an apology, please,

Ben, because that is Stan Lee's desk.

Technically, it's the shared middle section

between the two desks.

How dare you, Ben, come confirm.

He's got the 36-vert.

Look at his face as well.

He knows it.

That's the face of a man whose door card's broken.

He has to jump over the door to get Alfa.

That's why he got the hurt.

But anybody has any knowledge on why this is?

Yeah.

Drop it in the comments or send a message.

Cool.

It might mean absolutely nothing.

But there could be a cool story in there.

Someone was just set dressing and went,

"I don't know.

I just take Nick that car.

I make that toy car."

So I went, "That's the 36-vert."

Yeah, just chicken.

Have you not got a keypad?

You look on the M3 and it goes,

"Well, the M3 in this country didn't come

with the right cams."

So I went, "Yeah, saloon, best cop."

(laughs) This one I did get said,

actually.

You've put this in here, Benjamin,

the Italian police Lamborghini Huracan.

Now, I'm very, very cool.

I'm interested about this, but you know that car.

Yes, that's very famous.

Many of you will know it.

'Cause there was that police livery,

the Polizia.

'Cause it was a glardo first.

It was a glardo and then obviously there was the Huracan.

I always thought there were a bit of a,

like, "Hey, this is a police hurricane."

But they don't either.

It just goes away to a museum or something.

But that car.

Now on, 358,000 kilometers on the original engine.

On its original engine.

No way.

That is 220,000 miles.

God, imagine Italian police behind the wheel.

Imagine the things that seat.

That thing has seen some speeds.

That is crazy.

Now, possibly the most reliable Supercar.

I genuinely think the Huracan,

I know it's still extremely expensive,

but as an entry-level thing where you're

like, not hugely worried about engine,

gearbox, whatever, all the major bits going wrong.

The Huracan's it, because that engine,

because probably because Audi's involved in

it, is just exceptionally reliable.

You could twin-turbo it.

I don't think it would last that long

twin-turbo, but just a great engine.

Also, to be fair, it will have obviously been

maintained quite.

Yeah, religiously.

They're going to maintain it.

But still, even if they're probably going to

go for even 100k on one of those is mental.

How many miles is it?

320,000 miles or 358?

I was about to say, is it more than...

The big...

We were talking about, is it more than...

It's G54.

The big M's, big M.

So that we think might be the highest mileage.

Oh, the most larger?

Yeah.

With 300,000 miles.

Over 300.

Blue it, Ben.

That was the retention we were going for.

Silly sausage.

I also said it at the same time.

That's how many engine rebuilds?

Four.

Four engine rebuilds.

Now, but not all of it was because of its own doing.

If that makes sense, there were issues that

were not because of driving,

if that makes sense.

But this weren't just...

mileage, how that has accrued that mileage.

But also, that is that amount of miles in a,

what's hurricane?

2014?

2015?

Yeah.

It's 20,000 miles a year.

That's crazy.

So it must just be like going to all

different police departments around Italy,

just constantly up and down.

Just one police chief, like,

I'm off to Sicily, like, no,

you do that every week.

Come on.

We're in Milan.

The miles are going up in this car,

but I don't see it doing patrols.

What is that?

It's, yeah, no, I've taken it.

Don't worry about it.

In this situation, right, I'm Italian.

I'm getting arrested.

Can you?

What?

You're getting arrested.

Yeah, because I ride in a hurricane.

Oh, okay.

I don't think they're using it as like...

What's it for?

Well, I think it's mainly for like,

whoa, you know, guys, look, look how cool this is.

And there is absolutely no reason to have

that much mind, right?

If it's a patrol car...

No, no, not patrolling, but to go into events

and things, but like, let's say there's

events down at the bottom of the country,

and then there's one at the top,

it's going all across to be like a promotional...

I believe this is very strongly about police cars.

And this is something we've lost in the UK.

Here we go.

Actually, we never had it.

Police cars, police cars, should be like,

interesting cars.

Now Ben, it's because you know what?

Because if I'm, if I'm committing crimes,

which I'm not, I think you might have

mentioned it before.

If I'm committing crimes and I'm getting

chased by a Renault Zoe, I'm pretty comfortable.

Ben, you're not aware of the Golden Age,

the early 2000s England.

But even then they had like courses.

No, you little clown.

You know of the Lamborghini.

No, but not even that.

The cars that you would actually see.

I'm gonna pull it up now.

Hold on.

I guess they've turned into the undercover

police really now.

Now Ben, this was, and I remember actually

seeing one of these out on the road.

This is, this was an actual thing.

Here you go.

Bosch.

That's cool.

They had, well, sorry.

What sort of reaction is that?

That's cool.

And in WRX, and they also had Evo's.

Evo on one.

Evo on one.

I mean, you should, if that is patrolling

around, I'm not messing, 'cause he's getting me.

I know Zoey, or a voxel Corsa.

I think the short ratio gearbox.

If you've got like an RS6, you'd do it in a,

on like a motor.

On the M40, you'd, you'd, you'd warp speeder.

But Ben, are you, are you actually telling me

that if a Renault Zoey came on with your,

with its lights behind, that you wouldn't

still pull over?

Of course you would.

No, I would.

Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying that the,

that someone was, yeah, a person who doesn't

care for a lot as it is, you should have a

little bit of.

Now, because I'm messing this.

But I bet you they're going,

well, this would be fun.

I was, I get to race it Evo.

Sure, I'm going to do that.

That's what my thought would be.

Yeah, true.

We're going to go to the streets clean.

There was, I think it was just a display

thing, but it was genuinely like displayed by the police.

I saw it at, I want to say it was MPH07,

like what used to be Top Gear Live or before

Top Gear Live and LP640 Police car.

Yeah, cool.

That's cool.

I have a video of it somewhere on an old

YouTube channel, but it was,

I remember seeing it again.

Here you go.

Is this what the police have got these days?

Imagine the police these days in like,

wow.

Look at how, that's not happening these days.

No, if the police said, right,

here's our here's our Lamb, here's our

Revuelto police car.

There would be outrage on the street.

There would be people going,

this is where my taxes are going.

Whereas back then, it was like,

wow, that was a Lamborghini police car,

amazing.

I was like, oh, 708, everyone.

Yeah.

Not the time for this, if I'm honest.

I'm not saying this.

I got a great finance deal on it.

I'm not saying it should be like Lamborghinis and stuff.

I'm just saying that it could be.

Well, so, okay, what's the perfect police car then?

Okay.

So at the minute, we're talking,

we're talking brand spanking nukes.

It needs to be from, from my friend.

of a different levels of police officer that

get different cars.

I always feel like that might be the case.

I think, well, you have to be trained to high

speed stuff.

But as in like, if you're a brand new

officer, you don't want to get given like the

top end car.

I think that is a pretty fair idea to go with.

Okay.

So you start off with an RS3.

Oh, sorry.

Okay.

Whoa.

Police officers crashing straight off the road.

Go with GTI or go for it.

Okay.

Lovely.

To start off, it's still cool.

Yeah, but because we're trying to be

40:24 Ideal Police Car Discussion

scary.

We're trying to get people.

Is that scary?

Would you say that's scary?

Okay.

It's lowered spaces.

is menacing.

There's fitment as much.

Oh, please go go as fast.

I'm breaking my neck.

Please go have to stop for speed bumps.

Yeah.

I'm not curbing the Pretoria's mate.

Come on.

No, I think a Golf far is good to start with.

Okay.

Lowest level police officer.

Then we're going to go to an RS3.

Sure.

Saloon.

Saloon.

Because otherwise it's too similar.

Get the crims in the back.

Fine.

Yep.

Then we're going to go to, it's mostly the new C63.

Oh, full.

Do you know what?

Fast, but humble.

There's a use for it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There you go.

At least someone's buying them.

And then after that, we're going to go RS6.

RS6 was on my list.

I think it's a good plan.

RS6.

And then alongside RS6, we'll have M5.

M5 Wagon is, was my

first, that's what I was thinking,

entry touring.

X5N.

X5N, but they're not allowed BMWs anymore,

after the whole engine block thing.

No, you're not.

No, I think that's the whole thing.

In my world, they are.

They never did that.

That's five.

I don't want to care.

Top level, what's the top level?

Top level is going to be a urus.

We need a nice, we need a nice,

British mate.

Yeah.

Oh fine, you know what?

And then.

So they catch you, right?

Sure.

But obviously a lot of

those cars, not necessarily the most

practical to carry a little criminal's around then.

Yeah.

We'll catch a lot here, because we're quick.

So then like a blacked out Range Rover

appears to take you away.

Okay, nice.

As much that would be comfortable.

I'd be the back there.

I'd defend the octa.

I'd defend the octa as like,

it's like the need for speed of place guys.

So the Range Rover would be scary.

Also, if I got, if I got arrested and I'm

like, ha, ha, yeah, you caught me.

And then a black Range Rover pulled up and

they're like, you're going in that.

I'd be like, no, no, no, no,

hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Because that's feeling like I'm not

going to prison.

I'm going to a black site and I'm having

information extracted from me.

If it had the sort of baton

burg on it, but it was, but it was still backed out.

So it

was all, it was like, like, a full stealth,

but it's got place.

All right.

Okay.

And they've got like, they've got illegal

tents and they've got like two lights up on

the top of it that have like lights on the

defender that flash forward.

And then when you're on the motorway,

you know to get out the way.

Is it greasy or is it yellow?

Ben, I saw the thought forming in bedtime.

He's doing this again.

Yeah, we're back.

Another strip that is approaching fast.

Here's what I'm going.

I'd say, so we're going to do like,

we're going to go back to like Evo spec

stuff, not that we have that anymore.

It's going brand new.

No, I know.

I'm sorry.

I like the RS3 idea, right?

Okay.

As the, as the, as the, I was about to say,

dailies, not how that works for the police.

Yeah, I got a project for the police car out

of the back.

It's got like RS3s or something like that.

And then just fleets of smiley transits from the 90s.

Okay.

So when you get, when you get arrested,

you go in the back of the transit.

And that's not a good time for us.

So now everyone's like, slowly rusty.

Yeah, it's gabby.

You might cut yourself on something in the back.

There is what used to be a, in the back of

it, like a plumber's like workbench that you

can see the outline of where it used to be.

It's got a cage in the back that was like,

they might have been dogs in there before.

Yeah.

But not like, you got no idea dogs.

You get arrested and you go,

oh no, not the tipper.

Come on, please.

But you're failing to realise though,

who would, who in the police force would want

to drive that?

Everyone.

Everyone.

Everyone wants to drive a smiley transit.

No, because they've got RS3s,

RS6s, M5s, they could drive.

Yeah, no, but you got, but that's the

thinking man's car.

As we discussed last week, sorry,

that's sort of, it's the, I think they would

be, 'cause some of them they understand the job.

They know that I'm not here to be flash.

I'm not here to be catching the criminals.

I made a pick 'em up.

It would feel a little bit like a downgrade.

I think they should do it in a cab,

Uber.

Ooh, I like that.

Priuses everywhere.

Right, you're off to the station.

You'll be here in three to seven minutes.

We're looking for a driver right now.

Yeah, then you ring a taxi company.

Mike, so I think we've sold police cars.

Yeah, they do.

Police give us a buzz.

Also, where did that go?

I don't want the LP640.

Where did that go?

I think it was just done for the show.

From what I can see, it was basically for the show.

Okay, so I think it was just--

Was it onto your driveway?

No, not at 640.

Not 640.

I would have a 640, like worst case.

You discussed it.

No.

If this Sunday goes polished.

Whee.

Having a little temporary filler than I should go.

Yeah, yeah.

A little self-somiting.

(laughs) What have we got next?

From you, Edwin?

What's all this sound then?

I've got sound for you.

Okay.

And for the

creamers too, if everybody would like to hush.

Here's a

noise for you.

I'd like you to listen to.

Okay.

Okay.

So that is a, that is, that is,

the mic is, the mic is on the engine.

Okay.

So that's a little bit increased.

I can do a drive away if you'd like one of those.

Yeah, give me that, because I'm about to make

my claim.

Okay.

Okay, gear change.

That's all you've got.

That's all you get.

Now the gear changer thrown me.

Okay.

Now tell me what you were thinking originally.

My initial one was it was, it was,

it was the sort of changeover really got me.

I didn't understand that as much.

That threw me.

But the initial noise felt very S54,

46, felt very BMW.

Right.

Ben?

You've got a bad night.

And then the second video felt very portion to me.

I'm gonna, you're right.

I'm gonna put the video off on screen and

you're gonna watch it and you're gonna

explain to the audio

listeners.

Yeah.

Nah.

Sorry.

That is a motorbike.

That is a motorbike.

With what engine?

A BMW in line six.

Hey.

That is, I got served this exact video and I

think it's a big thing in

South America.

It's called the K1600 and then they also sell

them in Europe as well.

But it is a inline six BMW

engine.

And when I heard that, I was like,

that's an S54.

That is a, that's what, it was the little

changeover that got that was like,

okay, something's been, something's been done here.

But still, that was undeniably the end.

And then when the, when the,

the past of the like passing video,

it's a different exhaust.

That one has got, I think they've taken off

the air filter.

So it's basically open trumpets.

I was like, that's a 911.

That is a, like a GT4.

That could also be a little bit came in GT4 RS.

Yeah, that's what I was going to,

because it's that and the gear chain.

But the gear chain just so quick as well.

What, what?

Yeah.

I saw it, I was like, I had no idea that exists.

It's, it is designed to be a straight six,

a motorbike straight six.

Yes.

Okay.

So it's not like someone's done some mad

thing with a putter.

No, you can walk into a dealership.

You can walk into a dealership right now and

go and buy that bike.

So it is a 1.6 liter inline six,

producing a 160 horsepower.

We need that in a car.

I'm the beat.

That's what the beat's getting.

That is, that is crazy.

That is now what the beat's getting.

That's a mini NSX.

So what these are, I know nothing about bikes.

I think they are called a bagger,

which is a bag of shit.

Which is like a touring bike.

So they have, they're for like doing touring

stuff, not for sports bike stuff.

But still, yeah, like bigger ones.

We've got, hold on.

So it weighs 296 kilograms dry,

320 kilos on a car.

Which I think is very heavy.

That's a very heavy bike.

And also even 1.6, like a liter bike is

deemed quite quick.

So 1.6 is obviously.

It makes its peak power at 7,750 RPM.

Okay.

But what a cool, I just sort of come up and I

was like, nah, there's no way you're going to

get what that is.

So if you got that at home and you're a car

man, although how weird, even at 1.6,

even though it's in the bike,

it still has that undeniable BMW straight-six noise.

100% BMW, like M54 with a cone filter.

And next up Ben, something exciting,

something I've on purpose not looked into.

I sort of post about it, but you've set here

new Skyline teaser.

Yeah, they've teased images of the new Skyline.

Here you go.

And there are some, I saw somewhere at which

they are, which you can see more of the car.

So from what I've seen, they have,

they're kind of, they're vibing it out.

with the R34.

The R34, here's the front end.

There you go.

That's kind of looking retro modern.

So the thing to note is that the Skyline,

if you aren't aware, Skyline does not mean GT-R.

The Skyline is its own brand model,

sorry, before the GT-R and well,

like the Skyline was developed as a passenger

car, as a four-door, as a saloon,

and then came the hot versions,

the GT-R's and stuff.

So even after the R34 came out,

there was the V35, the one that became your

G35 in America.

That's the Skyline 350 GT.

That's just to call the Skyline.

We haven't had a Skyline since that,

sorry.

So there's what we're thinking,

maybe they go back to having a normal Skyline

and then maybe, and the top end of that as a GT-R.

So who knows?

I don't think that's as good.

From the photos that I see, so these photos I

saw on Instagram, there is one of them.

I don't know if you found out when,

it's the early Skyline, I don't know what

it's called, next to it driving,

and somebody boosted the exposure and the

actual front end of that, even though in that

photo you're showing looks kind of different,

it looks really R34.

Sorry, let me, it's a Reddit post,

but I'll put it up here.

Is it this one that you're seeing?

No, I haven't seen that at all.

Okay, great.

That's just a challenger that they've photoshopped.

So that is supposedly from Nissan themselves,

'cause that then looks a lot more like the

Hakosuka, or Hakosuka.

That old school skyline font.

There you go, Ben.

That one, yeah, so if you look at the front

end of it, it looks really R34,

and somebody boosted it, I don't think that

one on Reddit is real.

It's a four-door as well.

It says it's from Nissan.

But they haven't revealed it,

otherwise it will wear all these,

shadowy.

I don't know.

It's a four-door from what you can see in the

photo, so that doesn't make sense on everyone.

But that's, the front of that looks very R34 to me.

And someone boosted it, and you can see the

actual front end of it.

So from what I can see, this is the boosted

one, the other one.

The tail lights are still undeniably.

Yeah, that is a GTI.

GTI.

But that's, you know what?

I'm interested to see what it looks like then.

So I wonder if they do though,

'cause these days doing a four-door and a

two-door, you don't see that.

But even Volkswagen, you get the four-door

and that's it.

I wonder if they even do a coupe.

I think if they were to, obviously going to

just making the GTI a bespoke platform made it special.

If they were to go to where it's almost,

I don't think it'd be like a super or

whatever, but where you have,

I don't like the idea of it having a base

version and you could buy the normal one.

Like there was in the 34s and 33s and 32s.

I like it being the GTI, it's the hand-built one.

It's the top, it's Nissan's top dog,

not necessarily the

51:43 New Skyline Teasers

top dog skyline.

But then what if the standard skalom was the

four-door and then the GTI was the only

two-door, the only coupe one?

I don't know.

I just like the, 'cause I like the 35,

it being, that's it.

That's what's so cool about it.

That's what's undeniable.

And saying it's kind of a super car is

because there is no base.

Yeah, true.

There is no base GTR.

It isn't a five series, like I think you just said,

Ben.

It's not a five series that's been made into an M5.

It is a GTR from the ground up.

It's not based on, it obviously uses little

bits, but you couldn't dial it back to a diesel.

But either way, I'm excited to see what comes up.

Do you know when they've said they might do that?

No, I doubt.

I think they said soon.

I also noticed it has the skyline logo at the front.

what they're going with, otherwise it would say GTR.

Yeah, the R35 had no, like it was basically

all GTR badging.

Yeah.

Rather than this.

So this is, they are saying the model is back.

So the skyline model will be back and then

whether or not the GTR is related to that.

Because we did have some news,

right?

The GTR was in development now.

So it's happening whether or not it's based

on this, who knows.

R36 is the GTA six of cars.

It's got same time frame as well.

We'll be seeing it in our lifetime.

Who knows?

But yeah, I'm interested to see that 'cause I

think that would be cool.

We're well overdue a new GTR or even a skyline.

And speaking of Nissan,

No, no, no, no.

Benjamin.

The new Nissan Duke has been revealed.

Have you seen this?

And do you know what?

Before you show it,

how could it get worse?

I would agree.

Have you seen this?

I can vaguely picture the current one,

but what?

That's legitimately the car.

That's actually the car.

I realize that they can just,

the uglier they make it, the more people will buy it.

Now, if you'd like to laugh,

please go and see the unveil of this,

because it's quite literally the definition

of the crowd goes mild, but they unveil it

and no one makes a noise in the whole room.

From what I saw, it was a postal Instagram,

but this is tough, man.

The overall shape of it and the lights and

all that is bad enough and the wheels,

oh my God.

It's better wheels then.

It's the fact that even flat panels can't be fun.

Why have pieces of it not been coloured in?

They just wouldn't stop designing it.

The more lines.

The top comment was insurance,

just as I'm gonna have a bad day with this one.

How can you tell what's been hit and what hasn't?

Everything's had a big impact.

The whole thing, it's an origami cube that's

been crushed.

It's horrible, man.

That might be the worst car I've seen in the last year.

It looks mental, but not in a good way.

It's this weird trend of that's like,

"Oh, different is cool."

No, some different is cool, but that's just

being different for no reason's sake.

Cars have been around now for long enough

where we know what works.

Why change it?

You already know that's gonna be tiny inside as well.

You just know you're gonna step in there and

it's just like being in a hatchback.

You go, "Oh, these little dimples and grooves

making it look like a battered golf ball."

And you get in it and go, "Oh,

yes, can my passenger, feel my passenger's

knee next to me?"

Absolutely.

Can I feel the person behind me's knee in my back?

Absolutely.

But at least my car looks like a piece of shit.

Is there an interior shop?

I would probably be the best place to be.

I'm willing to bet either the interior is

absolutely mental or the most boring thing

you've ever seen.

There will be no between.

The original one, it came out and it was

horrible looking, but everyone bought it.

Surely that can't happen with this.

Surely the shop.

It can't, well, the name, does it carry weight now?

That's what I'm wondering.

Well, new Duke, I had one for the last 10

years, didn't I?

'Cause I'm numb and boring.

Why would I buy the new one?

Oh, what's, is there a crashed one outside?

Is that the new one?

I'll take that.

The wheels, sorry, I've just got a side on shock.

Ben, can you describe the wheels?

Also, yeah, for audio listeners,

can you do it a little overview of the car?

Oh God, all right, imagine a Nissan Duke.

I'm sorry that you have to visualize that image.

Imagine somebody's crashed into the side of

it, for some reason.

And then imagine the bits that are meant to

make it look premium, i.e.

the archers and stuff, the other

widely-bodied coloured, they made plastic.

And then the entire car is just sort of like

they rendered it in eight bits.

I was gonna say it to me, it is,

imagine in the Nissan Duke, but they've

rendered it badly on a PS1 game.

It's about seven polygons.

But it is uglier.

Somehow they've done it.

I cannot find the photo of the interior,

which is probably not great sign.

And the wheels are this weird,

horizontal, checkerboard-looking,

I think that the second they move,

this car rolls forward, they're not gonna match.

No, it's gonna look horrible.

Right now they're looking perfectly

horizontal across the board,

but no, that's dreadful.

It looks like a Euros that's rolled.

Yeah.

It does.

It does.

Or the old Peugeot advert, where it's the

elephant, it's that.

It's that, but it's that, but they went,

you know what, leave it just like that,

if possible.

And so different, have you seen my car?

If you knew Duke, no, that is utterly dreadful.

56:57 Lost All Your Cars Scenario

That is the worst car I've seen in the morning.

I mean, that information still.

No worries.

I really enjoyed that.

Yeah, I won't sleep.

A question, this is Edwin's question,

you've put it in there, Ben.

It's an if you've lost all your car's question.

Edwin.

Does anyone remember.

Pass this shift then, the car.

And I said, shut up, we have a podcast to film.

Edwin.

No, Ben just likes to be mean to me,

really.

I like to pose random questions all day to

Ben, 'cause I find it fun.

My question to Ben was, if you lost all of

your cars, and you had to start again,

you have the monetary value fair market value

of both of your current cars.

What would you buy?

Would you start again?

Would you go the same route?

Would you try and chase them?

Would you go different?

What am I supposed to do?

Chase them?

Or would you go for different cars?

So how much money do I have?

Ben, I've given you all the information you need.

Think for yourself.

You're asked to put your, this is your value out there.

That's classic, this is classic Ben,

discussion with Ben.

No.

You pose a question, Ben.

I hate this.

Ben goes, okay, but can you tell me what to think?

Of course I can answer that.

No, follow-ups are perfectly fair and reasonable.

And if you're asking a hypothetical,

you're going to laugh at me.

Right, Ben, that's what my answer is.

Let's put it plainly.

Yeah.

How many cars have you got?

Two.

Right, are you roughly now how much they're

both worth, I hope?

Roughly.

Okay, so go from there.

Okay, well why by?

No, not possible.

Can I buy, can I have a multiple cars or just one?

You can do whatever you want.

You're swapping it out, you're starting again.

Okay, so I'm just having to clean slate.

Okay, this is, this is live,

I'm thinking about this.

I'm going to buy a daily, start off with.

Sure, it's going to be a Golf GTD.

I like my Golf GTD, but I'm going to allow

myself to buy a more fancy project car/weekend car.

Therefore, I'm going to buy a Mark 4 Golf 1.9 TDI.

Okay, you know what, I would have never thought this.

Just to get me back and forth costs me eight

pounds a year.

I don't like the sound of that.

That is not you.

It doesn't feel you, but I'm willing to hear out.

I'm going to buy a Porsche Cayman.

Lovely.

Now, when you say it's a project,

do you mean it's a crash car that you're

going to rebuild or it's just a cheap one?

It's a nice one.

That's interesting.

It's not what you said a moment ago.

What did I say?

You said I'm going to put more money into a project car.

Oh, I meant like the other car.

It's not like a fun weekend.

My S2000 isn't really a project car,

but it is.

Like I now do a silly one.

Yeah, I said a silly one.

I'm going to buy a Cayman.

I'm going to use that for most things.

And then I will have to come to Reading.

That's a 3.2 S.

That's a

3.2 S.

I'm going to say 3.4.

I was thinking of different cars.

Now, here's the reason I asked this question.

Because I wanted to follow up.

Do you envy that man that has a Mark IV PD?

No.

And a Cayman.

I do and I don't.

So, but are you happy with where you are right now?

I'm very happy for him right now.

Cool.

But what I will say is that I,

my envy is his fun car.

Okay.

But I would also like my golf a lot.

See, this is, and that is when I roll around

just day on day, just thinking this thing's nice.

And then it goes bing.

It did.

I had a new door handle.

Look, these are the sort of questions that

I'm asking Ben on a daily basis,

Will.

This is what we've done.

This is what we've done.

This is what Will's done.

The car is now being 600 pounds.

Hey, you don't want to be a one price,

Ben.

You sausage.

Oh.

Mégane's worth so much more than that.

I do have Mégane.

So, I'm starting again, I'm starting a clean slate.

I've sold everything, which is basically what I'm doing.

I probably roughly do what I'm doing.

What you're doing now, which is going on

after the big M.

Everything would be sold and then it would be

the mercy logo and a daily of jorts.

I have a question, finance account.

Is that a change of things if it can?

If you're saying that I have the amount of

money that I have for my car.

Yeah, that gets complicated.

For the podcast, no, we're saying no.

No finance.

No finance, just for the podcast that--

You can't do what you're doing.

So I can't do what I'm doing.

Yeah, you have to buy cars.

Because I know what the answer is.

I know what the answer is.

You're going after a V6 clear.

Yeah, that's fair.

That is fair or a R35 GTR.

Or a--

Sure, M5.

What did I see earlier on?

I think I would possibly go down a random

route of just buying like four to five

things, like a couple of like older stuff,

like quick fags.

Me.

Five here, five quick fagas.

Like I thought there was an alpha,

I don't want you to call it,

is it like a junior or like a GT or something like that.

Like one of those coupe.

Absolutely.

I saw one of those at an auction earlier.

One of five series, 20 to 25,000,

I thought that would be very,

very cool, wouldn't it?

Sure.

Do something like that.

I can mark on our rest, throw one of those.

What else would we throw in here?

Truck it in the melting pot,

maybe like maybe sling a Clio V6 in there,

if it's possible.

This is mounting up in cost,

quite quickly.

I think this is possibly over taking,

but fine.

No, I don't think so.

Okay.

Now I'm on my opposite.

I'm gonna say something to you and you've forgotten it.

What?

It's, well there's two things,

number one, E90 term three.

No, 'cause I'm starting, the whole point of

this clean slate is, although I would love to

have an E90 term three, variety is the size of life.

I would like to try different things,

I've won there.

Yeah.

But you don't want to know, 'cause

realistically, if it wasn't for the big M,

it was brief, but I have been there.

It wasn't for the big M, you probably would

have kept that car, right?

No, but it's Will.

Possibly.

But you had it for, you enjoyed it for like two days.

Yeah, that was enough.

Why don't you just rent cars?

You can't do that.

'Cause you can't rent modified cars.

You can't rent device crash damage to yellow Clio's.

Also renting a car, bring it back.

I don't think wheels are my rental car.

I prefer them.

So I've changed them, didn't I?

I'll have to load it.

That was a car that reclined being brought

back from the brink.

It was done.

I intended to possibly keep it a bit longer,

but it hasn't worked out that way.

And such is life.

Okay.

Ben, I'm gonna let you guess.

I'm gonna let both of you guess what I'd do.

'Cause I know, I know--

You said everything.

Oh, you have so many cars, I have no idea.

The value's not much, but it is still,

I think it's a pretty strong--

I think it's a pretty good value in your collection.

But here's what I, let me answer it for you.

I'd sell all of them, go, I'm gonna buy

completely different.

I'd go back and buy the exact same cars.

Really?

I would exactly, I know, I know me.

You wouldn't buy the big F?

No, I wouldn't know, 'cause I'd be like,

I don't have any cars.

See it.

I need to buy for a second.

No, 'cause I know what I do,

I'd go, I have no cars, I need to buy some shit cars.

And then I'd end up going and buying a beat,

and then I'd go and buy an E36,

and I'd go and buy an A-series like--

You wouldn't buy the big F.

No.

I don't believe in your dream.

What?

I don't think you have the same level of

dream as you claim.

I do.

But then why not make it happen?

Because that would require getting rid of

everything and everything else is what makes me me.

But you've just done that.

No.

It's all gone.

Exactly, and I would tell myself--

They're all gone.

I'm gonna do it, but I know it,

I know it, I know I'd go back and I'd just--

This is insane.

I know.

I know.

It hasn't got to be for life.

So what's the point now?

No, I know.

You just told everything for no reason.

Look, Ben, I'm simply the master of this question.

I don't, you know, I'm not saying I understand it.

There's nothing that's different.

No, no, I'd say I would, right?

Think about it, Ben.

How many times do I say I'm gonna get rid of

an E36, and I go another one.

I don't believe you.

This is the one--

Because I think that there are a bridge.

There are cars that you own that you don't want.

Yeah, okay, so I feel like the C55,

fine.

So okay, but so which of those then?

Because let's say everything goes and you've

got to start again.

Everything's available.

That's the other thing with Edwin as well.

Even actually for some of my stuff as well,

is it's hard to find some of those things.

Exactly.

Like an Oxford Green M3, but let's just say

it's available.

You'd probably go back for that.

I'd buy it immediately.

Eight series would probably stay.

I'd go and buy an E50.

Oh, this is the thing, right?

This is why I've gone down this path.

How many podcasts to go that I said?

I'm selling the E50.

Yeah.

No, I'm keeping the E50.

Yeah.

'Cause I've got my ear for it now.

But it's been forced.

Nature has done it.

Of course, it's been taken away in the great flood.

Maybe I would then, but I would still be

looking for another one.

Okay, what about the B?

But now, you would get a monetary value back

for it, but you wouldn't necessarily get the,

you wouldn't get a better one for the same money.

No, but if--

So you might go, I'll take that money,

I'll take, what else have you got?

I'll take that money, the C55 money,

and what else we got, what else we got?

Well, so you got loads of stuff.

I've got 36 in, then I'm going anywhere.

They're getting bought back.

I'm buying back, Ben, what did I find

yesterday to show you?

Yeah, a white 36.

Another white 36, and there was a part of my

brain that looked at it and went,

"Where if I bought that?"

Okay, wait.

So realistically, it's possibly the only ones

that might be replaced with the 850 and the C55?

Yes, which is--

What else do you have?

The Clio?

The Clio?

You're clear?

Yeah, but that's also mainly for my

girlfriend as well.

That's for her to learn.

I have to do track day stuff in.

Look, I'm not actually that married to the Clio.

The Clio, if I needed to, I could sell that,

but that's for her to learn in and I enjoyed

the rebuild on it.

That was something exciting for me.

Okay, the beat.

The beat of Keith.

Absolutely.

There is no desire for the beat.

Ben, A, rich from the S2000 man himself who

doesn't care right now.

That's completely fair.

Second, you're wrong.

I love the beat.

But you've not mentioned the beat for months.

But I have it.

This is what I am.

I know I'm a hoarder to a degree.

I'm happy because I know I will get to the car.

I will do the vision I have 'cause I can't

sell the car until the vision is complete.

So therefore the car exists there.

It just sits there.

But it will happen.

Are you by everything or one on the back?

Probably, yeah.

Okay.

Or I'm not saying the exact car,

but I'd go out and I'd buy a beat and I'd go

out and I'd buy anything.

There's nothing to change.

C55.

Are they words?

They're just gonna be folks.

Let's try again, shall we go with them?

Any of them, would you buy the same car but

change something about either the color or

the spec or--

Do something differently, buy a better one,

buy a worse one.

The 840, the black 840, it's not in the

proper black, but they just don't exist.

So I would consider buying a worse one,

like a red one or something bad and then

fully re-spraying it proper black and doing a

bigger build on it.

But I'm now attached to that car.

That's the other thing, I get attached to cars,

red.

Would you hold out for another color?

I would.

Okay.

And the 46, that's kind of, that's--

Perfect.

That is what it is.

Down for the last detail, perfect.

C55, I feel like C55, he's like,

he's looking around going, "Why is it wrong?"

He's going, "What did I do?"

I was actually quite reliable.

It took one bad spell.

I hate you.

I'm what you go.

And then silvery 36, best car on Earth.

That's fair.

Why are you 36?

You know what, I've been having thoughts on

the white 36.

Every now and then I think, and it's because

the engine's not in it.

But I think the moment I do one track Vay,

I reckon I will go, "No, let's let's--"

You could put the engine in it.

It is not X-Toila.

I could very much do that.

I really could do that.

And it's 'cause I keep telling myself I'm

gonna do the stroker motor on it,

but I think I should just put it together as

a--

The engine is in our toilet.

X-Toila.

Yeah?

It's been there for months.

Yeah.

And you haven't touched it.

I know.

Ben, out of sight.

There's so many cars.

I know, but there's so many cars that you,

'cause the thing is right, my other thing.

except your put on the beaten stuff.

It just sits there.

But there are cars you use.

The Y36 comes to work regularly.

Mm-hmm.

The Clio--

It's outside.

Came to work regularly, right?

Yeah, these are all cars that you can justify

doing things--

The Tuscan.

You've been using them.

All right, that's the key, but I mean,

as in, it would be, it would--

It's difficult because of the value,

'cause you got it for very good price.

Yeah.

But you would, it's a clean slate,

you start again.

But you're gonna go and get another Tuscan.

Would you have that one again in that color?

Or would you perhaps, let's say,

the C55 has gone and you go,

ooh, ooh.

There's one on fire.

Do you know what?

I still don't love the color,

but I love the car and the story,

if that makes sense.

That's the most me Tuscan.

The whole thing, you've got the same thing

with the Mercilago, that one that you're

looking at is not perfect, which means you

will use it hard, whereas your Galardo,

sense of, if I hurt this, I'm going to really

hurt the value.

It's going to lose value, I'm going to

compromise in it.

Whereas now, I love that with the Tuscan.

I don't care, I don't want to make it seem

like, it's not, I love it dearly and I'm very

protective over it, but I'm more happy that

if something was to happen to it,

oh well, it's fixable.

It doesn't go all the immaculate paint jobs

ruined, but probably would end up trying to

buy that car again.

But yeah, a different color would be cool,

but it is loud enough for a Tuscan.

What a deep question.

is what I've also been, I wanted to take

offense on one other thing.

Sure.

And you say to me, you're not doing things to your car.

How easy is it to get the exhaust model in your S2000?

Hey, I'm not Mr.

Cars, am I?

You are.

I'm not Benjamin Cars.

You're Benjamin Cars.

You're Benjamin Cars every day.

You're working with them, you're working around them.

That's the exact reason why I don't.

Exactly.

So welcome to my command.

Yeah, but you have this every,

every breath you take is for cars.

I love that song.

It's for cars.

Yeah, I know.

I don't have the same thing.

I really like cars, but I'm not,

I go through hours of my day where I don't

think about cars.

Tough, I hate to hear that.

What are you thinking about?

Other things that--

What else is there to think about?

Give me one other thing you think about.

Right now, quick off about.

I think I'm watching this quite a lot.

Okay, what I'm thinking about watching YouTube.

See, it doesn't exist.

What holiday I might go on this year?

This week.

Yeah.

My family.

Oh, that's really nice.

You just think about your family.

That's quite sweet.

What do you think about?

Think about it.

Cuz I'm bloody out of time.

I've got mum and I.

My friends, my dad.

Are we in that group?

Do you think about us?

I do think about you sometimes,

but I spend so much of my life talking to

you, and I spend more time with you to

interact with you than I do with anyone else on Earth.

Yeah, probably true.

Even like my girlfriend.

That's tough.

Yeah.