Ben Wants a 458, Lorry Chat and Quail Update - C.R.E.A.M. #90

0:00 Introduction and Rule or Ruin

I reached out to an old flame,

and my phone was vibrating,

because we were working on this car,

and looked down, and

it just said "France".

I'm right over there at the beginning of

every single podcast we ask ourselves if cars

have ruined our lives this week.

Ben.

Hello.

They have ruled.

Okay.

I've got, so a personal side of things,

my golf, I've mentioned it was a little bit

rattly, an engine, and so I've had the Orcs

belt done, the Orcs belt tensioner,

and also the Ultinator pulley,

which is another thing.

It's nice.

It's better?

Yeah, although it is a TDI, so it's still

sort of his rattly engine.

I love that you guys, so you had this weird

noise, you had already come in and help on

it, you then started it off afterwards,

and I saw you both standing there looking at

it, and you went, is that just as rattly as

it always is, or is that worse or better?

He went, I don't know.

Well, we worked out that now every single

thing in the, apart from the crank,

every single thing in the drive belt system

has been replaced.

So in theory, hopefully it's all good.

But yeah, that's that's done.

And then the, the red thing sat behind you if

you're, if you're watching is my,

my, in yours.

Yeah, sure.

In quotations, Fiesta ST.

Well,

temporary steed.

It is.

We're going to the Nurburgring this very Thursday coming.

And, and Ben, you're very scared,

are you not?

I'm so nervous.

Like so nervous.

Like what are you panicking about?

Well, you're panicking about prison,

obviously.

These two have been winding me up all day

about getting pulled over.

Are you serious?

Yeah.

We all want to see you in a cell.

I don't want to see me in a cell.

Because you wouldn't do well.

Like you wouldn't.

You know, there is, there are just lots of

reasons that you could be put in prison in

Germany for things you do to your car.

Like being orange, not a great start.

It's fine.

It's not for you.

I used to count like I saw a thumb.

Crazy.

Almost literally.

But like team dynamics illegal there,

not allowed those there.

But yeah, you're on them.

I mean, why am I all day about getting put in

prison in Germany for some reason and,

and, and dying at the ring and all these

different things?

Okay, perfect.

So yeah, so but it, but overall is a rule

because this thing's pretty good.

I drew it back from Luton, we bought it from.

It's good.

It's just a fun car.

It's, you will see the video coming soon.

Will it be out?

Yeah.

Benjamin, here we go.

Benjamin lock in the brain.

It will be out.

Be out.

Have you seen it?

If you have seen it, it's very funny.

There was, it was interesting looking for a Fiesta Estee.

My God.

If you have seen it, you'll know that this is

a great car.

And it's never been on track.

We were on quite a tight schedule to get

bought and, I was editing, so I wasn't filming.

These guys said, "We're going to buy a car tomorrow."

And I was like, "Cool, I'll see you guys in

two days time."

But we'll have the car.

I got here and there was no car and they went there.

Yeah, we bought a Fiesta Estee.

We're looking at one, so it's hard to get one.

But this one, it was not too bad.

And obviously, when we bought this,

we did a little car vertical report on it.

And it turned out that there has been a

little bit of rear damage on this car.

It's fine.

We've never written off for anything like

that, but it had a little assessment at the rear.

So there's a few mismatching panels on this

car because we think it's been on track.

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Edwin, what is your Rule or Ruin?

Simon is for Ruin, for me.

You know what?

I've been, I was going to say,

Ben, you know this, but Ben,

you're

4:20 Edwin's M3 Preparation Struggles

always in this state.

You know, when you get, you just reach the

end of the tether with cars,

and you're just, I just don't want to deal with this.

I call that Wednesday.

I just don't.

I've got it.

I think you call that.

I got so annoyed.

I was working in the BMW.

I know it's a topic for many people.

They hate the whole, the whole,

we're going to the Nürburgring thing,

but look, it's exciting for us.

It's a trip with all of us together.

Like imagine going to a place with all your

mates in cars that you've all been building

for the last few months.

It's very exciting for us.

And I've been so excited.

I've been getting my M3 ready and prepped.

Sorry, every weekend as well.

You've been here last two years.

Every weekend.

I have been here late at night,

like in weekdays.

I was here.

last weekend until 2am on Saturday morning

and then about midnight on Sunday night.

So, you know, it's nice.

It's just been fighting me.

Literally every step of the way has been fighting me.

And this weekend, I was like,

right, one of the final things I need to do,

replace my exhaust hardware.

E46M for your owners will know your exhaust

hardware goes very crispy.

And I removed it and my exhaust was cracked.

I was a crack in my midsection.

Ben has that often.

I had to basically weld it up.

And then I realized that all the gaskets were

missing, even though I bought a gasket repair kit.

Was that just an empty box?

No, it had the metal flanges in it.

But it didn't have a gasket.

Perfect.

So I've now been struggling because we leave on Thursday.

It's Monday.

So it's tough.

And I've got the car, went for a lot.

Comment for alignment without an exhaust.

I had to drive it there.

Not good.

I have a video of it.

You can't hear me speaking in the background.

It's too much.

It's a big old box on my mid 46.

helps.

I'll tell you what, quite a lot.

But other than that, we'll get onto it later.

But I've had a blast from the past

has reappeared momentarily.

We'll speak about it later.

We'll get onto anecdote.

But for me, Ruin, because it will be a

rule.

Hopefully the next one is a rule.

If it's a ruin, you'll know why it's because

the M3 didn't make it to Germany because I'm tough.

There's a lot of tension around these units.

Everyone.

Rory is talking about changing his entire

steering rack and doing other bits,

something you've already done.

And Rory's doing it with less time now.

It's, you know what it is?

It's people comforting each other in how much

work there is to do.

Yeah.

It's someone walking up and going,

yeah, I've got, I still need to book an

alignment and get an AC road gas.

I need to put two tires on.

What about you?

And they go, yeah, no, I've got to pull the interior out.

And they go, all right, no, we're going to be OK.

No, we'll be OK.

Knowing someone might be worse off than you,

going, that's fine.

If they're going to get that done in time,

I can do the mind of things in time.

Well, speaking of, what is it for you,

Rule or Ruin?

Mind, you know, it will be a rule.

Surely it's a rule.

And it's actually a good rule.

Because it might not be the best best rule.

It is.

It's up there, though.

It's up there in my top three best rules,

because the martial logo is now on the road.

I've driven it.

There's a couple of little things.

There's a couple of little old little noises it makes.

It's very, you know, old and rattling and what such.

And there's a weird noise coming from a damper.

I think it is.

It scared me greatly on my back.

Could you describe the noise?

It goes, "Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh,

ooh, ooh, ooh."

Do you know what I'm looking at?

Is it an A320?

The sort of...

Oh, yeah.

Just nebust really goes, "Ooh,

ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh,

ooh."

The PTU, then?

I think that might actually be it.

I don't know why that entered my brain.

So it makes that noise, and I thought,

"Is that the engine?"

I don't think so.

It seems to make it randomly when driving,

but then it will especially make it when I

hit like a bump or something.

So I think it is a damper, and I already know

there's like the leaky damper,

which is fine, because damper is a super easy

to come by.

Yeah.

Yeah, and then they're great.

I don't want to know.

Yeah.

And there's two dampers on each,

on the rear?

There's six dampers total, yeah.

That's nice.

Now I think it's just a front,

and I have been, the guys at SBR said,

"You can't get them rebuilt,

you get them re-sealed."

But there's like

a six to eight-week lead time on that,

and you need to hit the damfrow into cars.

Yeah, so it's awkward.

There might

be a solution for that, which I'll look into

at some point.

Yummers.

But yeah, so that's annoying,

but the car drives,

it did an hour drive in from SBR to here,

which it was...

less, if I'm honest.

It might not sound like much,

but that car hasn't driven in six years.

No, the most it drove in the last,

yeah, basically six years was Dunsfold,

but even then it was five to 10 minutes at a time.

Yeah, if that's easy, there's nothing that's

not sitting in traffic, whereas...

And also that was 37 degrees that day.

That was a hot day.

That was a very hot day.

It was a big old test of the car,

and it was fine.

And now there was something else here in the

week as well that I wasn't aware of.

We had something, didn't we?

You've been kind of hiding something.

Oh, the Revuelto.

Sorry, what?

stuff for Velto, didn't I?

I did joke.

T-shirt sales went well.

Yeah, shout out to the creamers.

Basically, we had

9:07 Lamborghini Revuelto Experience

one month where we didn't have to pay Ben

while he was in Barbados, so we used the

savings to buy.

So we were in Velto.

We unleashed some funds.

I've been speaking to Lamborghini Press for a

while about organizing something.

And then when the most cargo happened,

I went back to them and said,

"Look, it'd be really cool to do a little

comparison video of most cargo versus Velto."

So they said, surprisingly, "Yeah,

cool.

Do you want to have Velto for four days?"

we've had that for the last,

well, it went back literally this morning.

I picked it up Thursday morning.

That's the most insane author bill I've ever

been in in my life.

Mental, absolutely mental.

I was worried that maybe it would be too

modern and Lamborghini would have lost some

of its madness.

And yeah, it's ridiculously easy to drive and

wherever else.

But my God, that's the maddest new car you'll ever see.

We talked about it here multiple times on the

podcast where we were like, "Yeah,

I don't really care."

I started some of the looks.

I'm still not afterwards.

So we went out of it.

In the moment I was like, "Jesus Christ,

this is mental."

But then Will and I went for a drive.

Sorry to ruin the YouTube magic,

but we actually did the wrong way around so

that it's in the video.

We went out in the Mercilago instantly.

One half pull and I was like,

"I do not care about that, you can't."

It has nothing compared to this.

The Revuelto is, "I can appreciate it."

And it's still very Lamborghini,

which is why, which is what made me happy.

It doesn't make me want one more than a

Mercilago or whatever else, but I was just

happy that Lamborghini is still doing Lamborghini things.

I think in the modern day.

I think it is as Lamborghini as they can be in 2026.

Like, yeah, you could go more mentally,

you could make it, you could take the

traction control off and make it real well

only, but they can't.

So this is the best.

And I'll say it.

I prefer it now after driving it to an event at all.

Well, that's where you're at.

But no, but there is an asterisk.

No.

One, possibly some asterisks.

One is that I think the event at all looks better.

Absolutely.

But that's a standard one, original one or an

SP or whatever.

Yeah, it would have been very aggressively.

Yeah.

But I just think if you go standard for

standard, not saying, "What about an event at

all than XOR, do you want an SP or an SPJ?"

'Cause it's not comparable.

I'm saying like, "What is the standard

versions of those cars?"

The rotors are in a different league.

It is mental.

The event at all, when we drove it,

didn't think I'd ever be saying that.

I'd driven it in an event at all.

But it feels like a, it feels like Supercar

Plus, if that makes sense.

It feels like a normal Supercar,

but quite a bit quicker and a little bit more silly.

The Revuelto just feels mental.

It feels like Ben, it feels like,

I didn't even drive it, but even with a

passenger seat, it feels like driving a

normal sports car versus driving like a TVR,

where it goes,

"Why, none of this, this isn't helpful.

This just wants to kill you or make you feel unsafe."

It's in a cool way.

It's effectively a hypercar,

really.

I know it's just stupid.

In today's money, it's not.

That is what Lamborghini does best.

It's flagship V12 is, I don't wanna say good

value for money, but if you want that same

package elsewhere, you're gonna pay double

triple whatever, how much more money with a

Zonda or a McLaren F1 or a GMA or whatever,

and they go, "Cool, now this is just what we

do, mid-engine V12."

And it's still a proper V12.

Yeah, the hybrid stuff, but it doesn't

actually affect much of the way it drives.

But yeah, we've had that for a while,

so the video on that will have,

should have been out now.

Yeah, it will have come out already,

so a little comparison against my car.

on the road, which I'm very,

very happy about.

Some jobs, it's racking up a lovely little

list of engine out jobs back car.

So maybe over the winter, I might look into

that, getting some of those bits done.

It needs a clutch, probably eventually,

some other bits of anyway.

And also, Mégane.

It is, Matt, I picked the Mégane up at the weekend.

You own them again.

I own them again.

That's crazy.

And it's so back.

Surely not.

It's so back.

So John, hold on.

Back again.

Back again.

Back again.

Again and again.

It's the Mégane's by-annual appearance.

It came back.

What week we get?

And it wasn't actually too bad,

but it needed a couple of bits.

I wanted it to get it ready for our little ring trip.

So I gave it to John at Cormac Road Sport,

and he's done a load of bits,

actually.

There's a load of bits.

He'd get a measurement saying,

"What about if you did this?"

I went, "Yes, that would actually be quite good."

So now it's got a slightly fruity exhaust and

a different tune, so it sounds great.

Come back, it's a Mégane

GT3, it's the wide body kit.

My wheel elves have been solved.

I bought some wed sport TC-105s.

I then had another tire L because my rear

tires were too big, so I had to buy two more

tires, so that's lovely.

Every tire shop in the UK must know you by name.

Oh, they're just, they know semi-coming.

Yeah, so it now has a completely different

tune on it.

I had no idea what Remap

had, so now it has a proper tune from the

guys at EFI, I think it is.

Different exhaust, different wheels now,

the brakes now actually work.

It's had a quick brushing over that one.

Yeah, they actually actually work.

It's had cool and replace water,

ring, it's very, very handy,

so no fines for me.

Doesn't mean I won't crash, but no fines if I do.

Well, smaller fines.

But then, right, so you've rolled four times

a shot at the track, yeah, but I am running D.I.

and I's water.

I feel free to go.

New class, new time about loads of,

like loads of things.

Yeah, crazy.

Loads and loads of bits.

That car feels so, so good now.

I drove it

14:19 Mégane GT3 Preparations for the Ring

back three and a half hours from Liverpool Way.

How did you get that?

I flew.

You flew there.

I flew there.

I love that that's the thing in the UK that

we do, that flights can be so cheap that it

makes much much more sense to just fly there.

I couldn't, like, there was not a way I could

get a train.

It's meant to go from where I am to there.

It was like a nine-hour trip to get a train.

I'd have to get eight buses.

Yeah.

You know, it goes to crow flies by foot.

I've got to cray some of it.

So I just flew to Manchester,

then got a taxi.

How long was the flight?

Hour.

Well, actually, sorry, it was about 45

minutes, but it was delayed by an hour and a

half, which was really delicious.

That's 45 minutes to get to Manchester.

You can also do other ways where you go to

Amsterdam first and then to Liverpool.

Oh, lovely.

Manchester, but I decline now.

That's quite slow.

But you shout out the trains of England.

45 minutes?

Yeah.

Well, if you have a way of speeding it up,

get on to British Airways.

I thought it would be quicker.

Well, it's not that much further than going

into sort of near Europe.

Anyway, traffic on the M40 in it.

Oh, yeah, fair, I had to queue up.

But it's just wider than late as well.

M6 toll, as well, they got stopped by that

bad headwind and all, you know what I mean?

Slowed down.

Up hill, isn't it?

But Mégane is back and better than ever.

I'm a little bit apprehensive about it going

to the ring.

I haven't driven it a huge amount before.

I haven't driven it before.

But I think it'll be fine.

Never.

It feels like it drives fresh.

We know what we, there is a,

I was just thinking off camera that it is

essentially that it does come back for a week

or two and then goes away for three or four months.

Yeah.

So if anything happens on the trip coming

back and it has to go away for work,

it will complete the prophecy and it will go

away for a few months.

Somebody is not gonna make it back.

Between the three of us?

No, between everyone going, can we have what

15 of them, 17 cars?

So because of that, like that is the chances

of that many cars getting to and from the

ring and doing laps that all the cream,

you know, the cream is now all that matters

is the cream team.

So as long as the three of us get there and back,

fine.

We've got to make a little pact on the

commoner, 'cause I don't believe that the--

Otherwise I'll rub.

Will's too low.

I don't believe the convoy for everyone will

stay together.

Okay, but what you're asking us is,

well you--

I'm asking for the purposes of this argument

that we will be going the speed limit and

you'll be going under the speed limit.

Not true, I'll be under the speed limit.

People who cream together will ring together.

Well if that all, no.

I just want the gang to hang out.

If that's the case, if you're doing the speed

limit, then of course we'll be driving

together 'cause we will be doing the speed limit.

That's what I hang out on.

Let's do it.

But how would we get away from you?

If we're legally only allowed to go up to the

speed limit.

In theory, you might enter Mexico and--

Not famously via a portal.

Not connected to France.

As far as--

As far as-- (laughing)

So no, that would be good.

Your next podcast, you will get some lore

updates on--

Or rates are premium.

Or we'll be dead.

Well no, we'll be doing it from a local

German prison where Ben will be--

Why?

For having dropped coolant.

Now if we go to prison, Ben can just play our bail.

Shall we move on to anecdote so much?

That's two rules and a ruins.

That's two rules and a ruins.

I'm sorry guys, I keep ruining it.

I keep actually ruining the podcast.

Benjamin, let's start off--

William.

Let's start off.

Yeah, big F prices, what's not what that mean then?

What's that?

I wanna do one of the week first,

'cause it makes sense.

Okay, right, then let's start with one of the

week Benjamin.

Oh yeah, one of the week.

Just before we get to big F prices,

I've got a big one of the week.

Oh, here we go.

It hit me like a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks.

Yeah.

What's heavier?

Or whatever Will sleeps in a Monterey.

An in joke.

I would like a Ferrari.

Oh, here we go, suck.

And I'd really, really like a four-factor V8.

Okay, here's our way, Sam.

What's going on?

Sorry, the man who doesn't dream suddenly doesn't.

Martin Luther King and I said it.

I saw it, I didn't dream it,

I envisioned it.

So hold on.

In a dream?

No, I just want it.

Or in person.

I actually saw it.

I just had a thought, really.

It was, yeah, first I'm very thinking that.

I really want one.

How about this?

Yeah.

Take us through it from the start.

Right, so I'm, I was sad.

Ben, not that far back.

Why was I sad on my sofa?

I think it needs to know that far.

We don't need to just, you know,

beginning of the thought.

Oh, okay.

Not location of the thought.

Well, okay, I'll send you some context.

Okay, I would just have thought,

I'll have eight.

Great story, Ben.

I don't know any more, so I think I saw a

real--

Talk about the feelings, what is it?

I know, I know it happened.

I saw a real recently.

Okay.

And it's one of those classic,

you know, you, you, you, you didn't buy an

10ling of 20s.

Okay, yeah.

That is like a four out of eight,

but--

Although crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

POV, you didn't buy a micro one liter.

You bought a Ferrari four out of eight.

The thinking mask like that.

The thinking mask.

Some silly thing like that.

And then I think, did I see one in person?

I don't know what happened.

I can't answer that.

I don't know what's going on,

like this, this story has gone completely right.

I can't remember.

All I can remember in my mind right now is

that I looked at them, but I think if

something happens, maybe there's only one,

'cause I'd never wanted to just--

You know--

You started with such confidence.

You know when we make a video about like the

TV, I was like, I've wanted one of these,

so I was three years old.

Meanwhile, Ben, I think I want one of these.

I can't remember why or why,

but there's a storyline it all follows.

It goes, I want one of these.

This is what I want.

Why?

Well, I don't know.

I can't remember how I found it.

I just think I like it.

Do I like that?

No, I like something else.

I definitely saw one at some point recently in person.

I can't remember where.

Okay, so it made an impression.

It must have done.

And then the other night, I was just sat in my bed.

Maybe I'm back to vacation again.

I was thinking--

Say never.

I'm gonna look at Ferraris.

Okay.

Of course, to me, if all have eight is,

you know, they're all 100 grand new,

and they've come down now as like 70.

Yeah, more than that, weren't they?

Yeah, yeah.

100 to something, whatever.

And they've come down to like 70.

Jump, jump change.

No, not true.

I think they're a bit more than that.

I think they're a lot.

105 is like the cheapest one I've seen.

Oh, no, they're a lot.

100 grand will get you a rope.

Oh, I know.

A real baggy one.

I'm fairly sure I've seen some set of

auctions for our 100 grand.

Give me a number.

I'm talking 175.

We're talking B.

Yeah, I think you were--

It's a nasty baseline now.

Well, this is, I forgot we are dealing with

Ben, so he's looking at 1000 mile,

you know, original--

Yeah, of course.

I don't dealing with a high mile example.

Why would I deal with that, of course?

I want a nice one to go in the collection on

that marble floor.

But that brings me on some big F prices.

You know, the price of them,

they're going up.

I--

I didn't realize to have one.

Pro one.

Oh, yeah, truly.

What about that recently?

And I was, I liked it a lot.

Recently?

In Italy, yeah.

You drove 4, 5, 8, 3.

Oh, well, I was in Maranello.

They have those half now through the hills.

I didn't know about this.

Is she there?

No, what was that?

Sorry, Creamers, can we all just,

some of you can't see that reaction?

No, it was just--

Ben said--

For how long?

And then Ben went, I said half an hour,

he went--

No, it wasn't that, it was--

Sorry, well, how long have you had behind me?

No, 4, 5, 8.

I wasn't scoffing at it, I was laughing at

it, because from when you told me,

you said, you pitched it as if you had it for

like a day or two, and then you told me it

was half an hour, I was like--

How did I pitch it?

I said I rented one, half an hour.

No, no, you didn't decide.

I used to, did you have it then?

Yeah.

Well, I was saying, well, you didn't have the

money to do it for two days.

No, I thought you said it.

I thought you said it, peasant.

To the stove store, I thought you meant you

rented it for the time you were in Italy,

and then you found it's half an hour.

No, I had a Jeep Renegade.

Very similar.

I wasn't scoffing.

But there's lots of places in around

Maranello, where you can rent a Ferrari.

And the experience is actually fantastic,

because they do not care at all.

I did one many, many years ago,

I saved up all of my pennies,

and I drove a 430-scooter rear.

They don't normally have cars as exciting as

the limited edition lightweight stuff,

anymore, but they had a 458 there.

And 458 is relatively old.

Lots of the other cars are like,

Cali T's and Roma's.

They had a 296, I thought that is very fast,

but it's V6.

But I thought, you know what,

they had a 458 Spyder.

Oh, a Spyder.

An option where you could drive it through

the hills, I thought, that'd be great.

It was the baggiest thing either.

It was, every button was sticky and worn,

and it was just knocks, and the engine light came on.

Oh, no.

And I said to him, like, just to be sure,

'cause there's lots of waivers and stuff.

And I said, the engine light's just come on,

you know, 'cause I was like,

to me, I think that's probably,

it didn't drive any different,

it's probably the O2 sensor.

And he went, he slides.

(laughs)

I was like, he's affiliated with Ferrari?

No, they're not.

The none of them are the none.

It's very weird that Ferrari in that area are

like, I think, actually, physically,

you can advertise your brand,

but they're very funny about you,

like, showing Ferraris, yeah,

or like, actively going out there and

pushing, come and drive, test drive a

Ferrari, 'cause they have no relation to Ferrari.

But some of them are literally doing it,

60 seconds from the factory,

or from the museum.

So they take advantage of it.

And there's only probably like five or six of

the companies.

But anyway, there was a 458,

and I thought, you know what,

sod it.

It's an older car, but that's the one I would

drive out of all of them.

And my God, what an engine.

They're literally left in that car,

'cause all the suspension was pretty sharp,

but God, it was fantastic.

It didn't quite push me to think I need to

have one of those.

If I had one for a day with driving through

some nice driving roads, that'd probably be

enough for me.

Famously, you're a coupe man.

But a four five eight spider,

I enjoy a lot.

Because before, when we were talking about

it, you said you'd still have a coupe over a

spider, but would you have?

This caught me off guard, because when I saw

the four four, I had the roof up and I went,

oh, it's a coupe.

Oh, well.

And I got to the rear.

It is a spider, 'cause that's what I like,

'cause it doesn't change a huge amount.

When the roof's down, the whole silhouette

doesn't change a huge amount,

'cause it's still got the buttresses.

I'm doing the gearbox and just everything on that car.

I have one from last month that sold on

collecting cars for 115,000 pounds.

It was a high mileage, it's a spider as well,

a high mileage, 40,000 mile car.

I'm sorry.

You're just following a horsepower hunters trajectory.

You went, I've got four for eight.

Ben's going with, he's like,

well, if he won't let me drive the event at

all on the road.

Okay, how about this then, Ben?

Tom Kindley from Horsebar Hunters says,

hello, Benjamin.

That's how he speaks, of course.

You could drive you the event at all,

the 458.

Ben Store.

Oh, okay.

No hesitation.

Can you say it was my dream car?

I so quite like one.

I'm just trying to, I'm seeing as you gave us

so little information about how much you like it.

That's completely affair.

I'm just trying to work out.

I really like it.

I love how it looks.

But interestingly.

I don't like how it looks.

No, I love how it looks.

I think it's very simple, but effective.

But I looked at 458s and then prices,

and I was looking at the car.

I got a car in the photos and I looked at

488s because I think 488 looks-wise is

under-appreciated because it's like a almost

facelifted 458 look to it.

Then I looked at F8s, so we're just going

generation by generation up.

I looked

25:14 Ben's Desire for a Ferrari 458 Spider

at F8s for a while because they really,

they really get me tingling and also fizzing.

I really like them.

And then I went back to look at 458s.

And we started all over again.

And this went on for some time.

After I'd done that, I didn't like it as much.

It suddenly looked far too simple.

I think it will be appreciated in years to

come because it's simpler because of the,

you're laughing, why are you laughing?

I was going to tell you about the next part

of the story.

All right, so sorry.

Is that like the triple exhaust thing?

It's different, but I think that will

probably get to an age where everyone goes,

they're not doing stuff like that anymore.

God, God, they're just, it's just so simple and lovely.

That's timeless.

Not simply and clean.

But the 458 never stood out to me as a,

I think the 430 looks cooler to me.

But like the 458's speciality,

although not a huge amount is different,

but there's enough differences with that

matter of the future with different bumper

and whatever else where it looks so much

better than a normal one.

Are you going to ruin the 458 for you quickly?

Okay.

I'm just going to pull up on the screen for

the earlier listeners, a 438,

this is the

one, that one that's sold.

Now the headlights, the DRLs,

how many of those are there?

Eight.

Why is that?

V8.

Fine.

Any thoughts on that?

Excellent.

Okay.

Just another example for those of you that

maybe haven't missed the earlier podcast.

Yes, Ferrari.

Ben claimed that the Audi R6 that

deliberately has 10 LED headlights in the

headlight, is ridiculous and an afterthought

and not a piece of design language.

Now, meanwhile the 458 with eight.

Can I finish my story?

Please carry on.

So I looked at that, I was thinking,

I don't like this much anymore.

And then this was later in the evening.

So I went to clean my teeth for bed.

Okay.

Was gone for a bit.

Came back.

And just to get myself nice and settled down

in bed, I thought I'd have a little look at 458s.

And a hot milk, of course.

Yeah.

I really had that.

Were you carrying the saucer with the candle on it?

Yeah, I was about to go honk shoe.

Striking pajamas and all such.

I led back in my bed and I watched videos.

I looked at more photos of it.

And you know what, I came back around.

I love it again.

It was quite an experience.

It was interesting that I went the more

modern Ferraris, not like the current

generation, but like up to F8.

And then so you looked at that one.

I didn't like it as much.

You said up to the F8.

Way.

Way.

Up the F8.

Get the crust in.

I do know what, I've actually,

I've had a similar experience,

'cause I like the 4.5.8 a lot.

But then whenever I think about it,

I like the F8 the most.

The quad lights is it for me.

I've always, when the 4.5 that came out,

I always thought it was really awkward

looking, because it only had two.

And because it'd gone from four small ones to

two really big ones, it just looked really odd.

It's now you see, here's what I'll say.

I'd prefer the F8 if it had two lights.

No, you wouldn't.

That's horrible.

That's interesting.

Okay, but hang on, your opinion is right.

It comes from probably your nostalgia to old

Ferrari's, right?

No, just because that is correct for Ferrari.

That's just what I said.

Not really as they'll do it.

It was, but reworded.

Yeah.

But for me, the F8 is like the modern version

of the 4.5.8, because that's when I became conscious.

So because of that, I would like a more

modern 4.5.8 look.

But please listen.

I'd like to talk about engine.

That's the thing is that I'd want the 4.8

engine, 'cause it's, what was it,

9000?

Yeah, something ridiculous.

It's something ridiculous.

And the 4.8 goes down to like,

way below that.

Yeah, but it's a turbo engine.

So it just doesn't, and it is,

that is apparently an excellent engine.

I have absolutely no doubt, because it's very

efficient and it's very fast and it still

revs quite high and it's got more torque and

it is overall better, but it isn't a

ridiculously high-roving NA V8.

Yeah, that's cool.

Is it, I think, is that, yeah,

pin in forina?

No, it's 458, I don't know for it.

Yeah, I think so.

I don't know when they stopped on,

I don't know F12 was basically the last big

V12 pin in forina, but.

I think it is pin in forina.

Yeah.

I say, bring them back, guys.

Yeah, I say, you say, give me money,

please.

So, you say, I can do something.

Well, I was sad, because I can't own one.

Well, one day, there's a price going up.

Yeah, but

you never know, Ben, and things,

they peak and they trough,

and they, I don't think, and it is fluid.

Now, speaking of, I had, I reached out,

to an old flame.

(laughing) Jezah's back in the picture.

How is he?

Now, unfortunately, it's, it's,

it's sad news.

I, there've been some, some Ferrari 550s have

come up, and I've been looking at auctions

and things and potential finance to try and

look at, just trying to get into a 550

before, I think the prices go too mental.

And I thought, you know what,

one last try.

Let's throw a Hail Mary, let's see if we can

get, get a response from Jezah.

So I sent him an email today,

and said, Big J, what's happening,

man?

What happened to us?

We used to be great.

And one last chance, look, let me know what's

happening, 'cause I haven't heard from you in a month.

Peace out, dog.

And not two minutes later, I walked into the

unit, and my phone was vibrating,

'cause we were working on this car,

and looked down, and it said,

is it plus three, three, is France?

And it just said, France.

France is calling.

The Prime Minister of France,

it said, is my crumb?

He's been driving over that for yesterday.

'cause we will arrest him if he does do that.

Why?

(laughs)

So, and I knew it, and I immediately knew it,

so I picked up, I literally picked up the

phone, I went, Jeremy, he went,

oh, how do you know it was me?

I said, I also, I have your number saved.

(laughs) And I spoke to him about it,

essentially, he's still fighting with the

insurance to pay him out for the car.

They value it lower than what they wanna pay

him, he's pushing back on that.

He's pushed it back for so long,

it's been multiple years now,

the court.

And he said, to be fair, to me,

well, to him, that it's gonna take a while.

If it goes to court, it's gonna be a long time.

So he's like, I'll be honest,

if you find a car, you find a car,

but I'll let you know, I don't have anyone

else interested in this car and I will be

able to buy it back a salvage.

If I do, I will let you know if that day

comes and you're in the market for it,

it might happen.

'Cause I would still like to build a crashed

one where I wouldn't have to care as much and

I could be much more me about it.

You know what, Jezza, we may one day hear from Jezza.

It might happen.

We'll cream episode 280.

200, you're calling it out.

280, that's a long time.

No, that's a long time.

I'm gonna say speaking of.

It will be before episode 200.

I'm gonna say it's before episode 130.

Jezza by 230.

That's, we'll get out on a shirt somewhere.

Roads to Jezza.

But, in one of the last episodes,

we jokingly said, pull up episode 47 at 37 minutes.

What do we do?

You know, what we do in Korea?

What are we doing?

A kind creamer has gone into the comments.

Louis, I won't say your last name to not box

you, but Louis said, episode 47 at 37

minutes, refers to asking people to make comments.

It's a full circle moment.

Wow.

That's mad.

That feels like a portal into a different world.

Well, it's also proof that we plan all of these.

Exactly.

The amount of broth we speak.

So Ben, if you could just call out one at the

moment from another podcast,

and we'll just get a, we'll get double check

that it's not--

Oh, is that one, sorry, episode 47?

That was 47 at 37 minutes.

I'm gonna take it way back.

I'm gonna go to--

You're gonna throw it back?

I'm gonna throw it right back to episode 21.

Sure, episode 21, and what's what time code was that?

22 and a half minutes.

22 and a half minute mark.

Yeah.

What we discussing.

We discussed some, please comment and let us know.

Lovely, thanks very much.

We can check quite easily.

But that's boring.

But that's boring.

But exactly, yeah.

We can also talk about, we've been asking,

we've been interacting with the Creamers.

I think this might be my favorite interaction

with the Creamers, yeah, asking about what

car we went home, what you went home from the

hospital, and as a baby, fantastic all around

from the Creamers.

Amazing.

People interacting with each other,

people saying, I went and spoke to my parents

about this, I had never asked them this,

it was good, great, some really good ones.

So to recap, I was in 850R, you revolve those 340.

Lots of people involve this.

Yeah, the thing on the thinking man's baby car.

I think it is just the baby car.

We had some very, there was one that I think

just came in today actually,

Sapphire Cosworth.

Well I've got, I've got a list of some of my

favorites that I've taken.

KinglWiss, it's KinglWiss.

Okay.

Said, I was born in 2000, my dad drove me

home in a fiesta, no, in a Ford Sierra

Cosworth, and then the week after,

I slammed it into, I had a police car,

I lost his

license, the car was written off,

I wish this was a joke.

Nice.

That was good on.

Hopefully you weren't in the car.

No, you hopefully it's not.

Well, still alive to tell a tale.

Yeah.

When I was born, I was taken home,

in my granddad's Lotus Carlton,

that he was still owns today.

Wow, that is good.

He still owns it now.

And now Mr.

Sykes, you win, I'll be honest,

I think that's cream of the crop,

is a Lotus Carlton.

Quick bank raid on the way home,

you know, get that done.

I was brought home in a Lancia full-via HF,

there wasn't room in the back seat,

so I was put on the parcel shelf in a

bassinet, the '80s were a crazy time.

To be fair, well, I took my grandad out in

the Revuelto at the weekend,

I was, he looked in the back and went,

I was like, probably a room for a baby here,

and I was like, well, not really,

that's not really safe.

They were, oh, that's what I used to do.

So, he had a TVR, and there was a little

parcel shelf in the back, isn't it?

Just put baby there.

That was safe, but fine, but also your

lineage depended on that.

Anything went wrong, you're gone.

In 1993, my dad brought me home in a tungsten

metallic Renault 5 GT turbo.

My dad says to this day that if it was not as

fast as it was, I would have been born in the

back of it at 5 a.m.

on the way to hospital.

That's quite good.

And then there are a few more.

There was not me even on my eldest daughter.

Now six was brought home in the Milano Red DC

5 Integra type R.

Wow.

Wow.

That's cool.

Straight up cool.

And then modified.

You'll have to ask Tom who made that comment.

Please comment.

On behalf of my daughter, she was brought

home in a blue 1999 Monbeo ST200 state.

Oh yeah.

Well, I was brought home in a 1994 Monbeo

2.0-litre GLX estate load on coils with a

full RS body kit back in 1990.

Oh wow, I like this.

Creamers are on top for this.

And pulling up with proof, like we said.

There are photos of these cars,

there's all sorts.

Now, this one is from Oliver Dance.

I want to know, I want proof of this.

Audi AT S2 Avant.

That's what it says.

Just as Audi AT S2 Avant for me.

S2 Avant, why are you not trying?

So that's the RS2 shape.

But just a little bit narrower.

Yeah.

And then the last two, my favourite one.

So this one's not, particularly that

interesting, but just a perfectly English.

Driven home in a cousin-shot Sierra estate

that would get stolen weekly and brought back

with a full tank of fuel so it was never reported stolen.

Right up until the police banged on the door

to ask if my mum had been doing robberies in it.

I like that.

That's England.

And then in a similar vein to end,

Kai Jolly, you have a run up for me as the second best.

As a new human, I was brought home in an S1

Ford Escort RS Turbo.

My son, just last year, was brought home in a

white Sapphire Cosworth with 420-wheel horsepower.

Crazy.

Big, you know what?

Shout out the creamers.

Yeah, you're also just pulling up the better

ones than any of us.

Yeah.

I love it.

Again, if you haven't seen that section,

have a think.

Go speak to your parents.

Go have a look.

Go find some photos, see what you were taking home in.

Even some cool stories of cars you were in.

Yeah.

It's just cool to see that stuff.

And we've seen some really cool photos.

The photos are great.

The period photos.

I'm sure there's some sort of GDPR violation

with us having lots of photos of used children.

Yeah.

But we'll keep those safe.

Ben, back to Ferraris, because you are the

richest man here after all.

You put in here something about the new Testerossa sound.

Yes.

849.

849.

Yes.

I'm going to play you some sounds.

I got one then.

I'm going to put money on the fact that it's

an 849 Testerossa.

37:21 New Testerosa Sound and Tractors at Night

Yeah.

I think is my best way of an inkling.

So the new 849 Testerossa has been,

I think now they're delivering cars.

I don't know.

I'm on the street.

That's exactly what he's talking about.

Basically, it's like any modern Ferrari or

any modern supercar.

It's hybrid.

I think it's.

Oh, at least it's a turbo.

It's

very muted, the noise.

OK.

And you've heard it in person right to convert that?

No.

No.

So what am I doing?

You're going to play us this possibly hybrid,

possibly V8, possibly Toyota.

So I'm going to play you this company.

Ferrari.

I'm making this car.

The Forline Testerosse, they possibly hybrid.

Brill steel motorsport exhaust.

OK.

They exhaust for it, and they can make it

sound a bit fruity.

Oh, I thought.

I thought, you know what, quite good.

First of all, it plays the OEM sound,

which is depressing to hear muted.

Yes.

Let's let it.

Let's get a VL.

So you're going to tell us which one's

standard and which one's off the

market.

You can probably tell.

F-H-E-F-H-R-B-E-Toe.

Sorry.

I'm allowed to sound a bit "M" because I'm

just good at what I'm doing.

But the whole thing with Ferraris,

you're supposed to be, you're supposed to be

a bit flamboyant and a bit mental,

but that's just rev.

It's like the Temerario.

Yeah.

There was a Temerario recently with the

purple, like the Viola SE 30 purple colour.

And that sounded good, but it had that sort

of Koenigsegg vibe, but it's still not.

I don't think the Temerario can sound good.

I haven't heard one that I like.

I thought that sounded better than the Temerario.

I'd love to hear a Temerario in person.

And I'm sure we will.

This year's, oh, there's like a week where

there's cars around.

We'll hopefully probably see one there.

Well, a couple of us will.

Yeah, we'll get on to that.

Well, yeah, we'll see about that.

What we got next?

We have big news from Richard Porter.

Oh, yes.

Have we?

Yeah, I will read email.

We have.

Well, he informed you.

He informed me.

Oh, I thought it was an organic find.

No, no, no.

Richard Porter, we speak to via email and

respond to via the podcast.

Yes, that is.

There are much more efficient ways to talk,

but this says,

I hope you're ready.

This is an email from Richard Porter.

We're kind of ugly, but you should back up

drums, dancing, I guess we could do.

You could dance.

I love you.

In interpretive dance.

So, Richard Porter, can you just let the

stage for me?

Can we skank to it while you...

Is Richard Porter mixing live?

Yeah, he's on the synth.

He's on the synth.

He's on the booth.

And do we have an entourage of people behind

going, "Whoa!"

That's us.

No, because I think you should be in front of me.

I think that's entirely up to Richard.

I think that's for him to describe.

Side.

I mean, he is kind of the forefather of

trackers at night, let's be honest.

Producer.

We're just featuring on it.

No.

So, it's for him to choose, but we're here to

support Richard in whichever way we can help

out at Wembley.

You know the 2000s and the 90s,

there wasn't a single music artist that got

on stage without 27 back-up dancers?

Yeah, sure.

That's what I think you should be.

I would like each backup dancer to look

vaguely like us.

Oh, wow.

So, we get some clear, bolding esque.

Yeah, they're just some sort of fat,

like Dutch person.

A couple of gorillas.

Yeah, they go nice.

Wow.

Like the band.

They're playing us in.

The gorillas.

Don't think they're animated,

aren't they?

What?

Yeah, okay.

Well, the gorillas aren't real.

We can get the same stuff they put the

hologram of two pack on.

We get them out on R.P.

So, I think I'm excited for this.

Now, you said, I think we've all said,

I listened to it a few times on Spotify.

And I was moving the eight-star series around.

And exclusively, when I drive the

eight-series, I have an eighties playlist on.

And I started now, which surely must be

impressed to hear this, but I started a radio

off of a Kavinsky song.

And I was listening to it in the eight-series.

And the next song came on, I went,

"Oh, I know this.

Why do I know this tune?"

And then I have Ben go, tractors at night.

Was it tick of the clock?

No, tick of

the clock was in.

Because if it's tick of the clock,

it's kind of similar tracks tonight.

Are you implying a rich producer?

No, copyright.

No, similar genres.

Okay.

But I'm incredibly impressed to say that my

Spotify has already gone, "You like AC synth?

Have a bit of rich pull-through in there.

Have a bit tractors at night."

I had my Spotify DJ player for me.

Yeah.

Next up, you Ben, I got a couple of ones

you've been listening to recently.

And then he just plays tractors.

Tractors at night.

I played tractors at night.

And then it followed it up with a song

called, "Something vast is at night."

Oh, okay.

You're on that nighttime playlist.

It went.

I said, "Well, something else at night."

Isn't it?

But yeah, I've listened to it in the

Revuelto, which was fantastic.

Very wonderful.

You can confidently say you are the only

human on earth that has ever listened to

tractors at night in a Lamborghini.

And in the most, you're like,

"All in one day it got blasted in one day."

I have a photo because when we did the

reaction to that video, I was in the car of Will.

I looked over it.

It's like speedo.

It's just all the pressures,

speed, everything, bottom left.

It's just tractors at night.

It doesn't even say now playing.

It just says tract at night.

The problem is, is a banger.

It is quite catchy.

If you haven't heard, please search up.

I think it's ADO 88 on Spotify,

which is from memory and old Metro concept

car, which would make sense.

It's very esoteric for Ridgeport.

It's a merch club.

It's really nice.

See, look, you just see these handsides.

You're a Joe Jackson.

We can donate the proceeds.

Ben's going to have us afterwards going,

"Right, we've got to practice."

That's it.

Go rehearse those moves.

Moonwalk, Edwin.

We can

donate it to charity.

Okay, proceeds.

Really?

Yeah, no,

that's exactly what we can do.

A quick side note, I wanted to shout out to

the Creamers for the response on the

collecting cars thing.

Now, we said we're doing a little side

hustle, little moonlighting on the collecting

cars channel.

And we said, some Creamers in the comments

would be great to see.

Boy, did you deliver.

Oh, they showed up.

Well, you know what?

Some of it, all of it, great.

Some of it, quite funny.

There were some announcements for other presenters.

You decided to infiltrate that too.

Please, let's keep it respectful.

There was a couple of, I think one of them

was I'm not, who's this?

I'm not watching unless it's Ben the event,

Rogers.

Also me, mommy, absolutely nothing to do with

any of them.

Yeah.

There was a rumor that one is potentially Ben Collins.

And then I said, I don't want that.

I want Ben the event.

It's totally fair, but let's keep it.

So a few outliers of people just messing around.

That's fine.

Mega shout out to those of you that did turn

up and those of you that watched the video.

We've only got a few as like a pilot episode,

but hopefully it will carry on.

Because we just like walking around looking

at cars, man.

And the next one, actually, we drive some

cars as well.

We drive some very, very cool stuff.

And then we have a couple of other,

we have one other collection lined up that

I'm hoping we're going to do that.

Also, no one has ever seen ever filmed.

No one's ever filmed.

It's very new to the sort of world.

If you like, of like, you know,

putting in the collection.

Yes.

Yes.

But baby has bought a load of cars.

Oh, fair.

That's what you should be doing.

Of course, of course, there are Mercilago.

in that collection multiple hours.

So you drive your Mercilago to that.

I should, shouldn't I?

Now it's very legal.

Bit of a flex.

We should do a video of our collection.

We did.

We did.

That was funny.

It's quite different.

Oh, loads of people were asking in that

comment section, what happened to the beat?

The beat is there.

We didn't talk about it because it's way in

storage in a different location.

It's not that location.

Why do you try the beat?

Ben, how many cars have I got?

Too many.

Right.

You've got to drive them all.

You could, like, come to work in the beat.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm driving other cars.

I'm driving the 8-0.

I'm driving the E46.

E46?

Right.

But also, yeah, right now.

It's Germany.

The beat.

It doesn't have an MIT now and it needs a bit

of work to get through on.

So it's to the side.

I love it.

I love it too.

Did you tuck over there, along the shelf?

We just put it behind the toilet door.

You could live in the toilet.

The secret toilet door.

Yeah.

So don't worry.

You will see the beat come back at some point.

We're asking if it had gone.

It's gone nowhere.

Should we do a second shout out?

Sure.

Shout out to the Cream Instagram.

Which is now, I think, now, one thing that

the Creamers do not know is that you create

like a shorthand for the Cream Instagram

that's just a bit clunky.

So like Cream Instagram?

Sure.

Or like, hold on.

Get those cogs worth it.

Oh, no.

What's it called when you have,

is it a Creamery?

Yeah.

Where they make Cream?

Look, we've said if we ever,

Will and I were talking the other day,

if Creamery ever gets to the point where we

can rent our own unit, or buy a location,

I looked into the legalities of if you can

just change the name of like your house.

Like, if your house is called...

It's a great point.

Bingle Town.

It's not, can you change it to cackle beans?

Is that allowed?

Of course, it's a dog singing all of us.

Are you allowed to do that?

So I've, so I looked at it, yeah,

I think you basically can.

So I want to change where, if we ever to get

somewhere, it's got to be the Creamery.

I mean, has that we won't make Cream.

Well, we will make Cream, but not Cream.

Like a permanent set.

Not Creamers like your nan right now.

No, yeah, you know, none of that.

So, but sorry, carry on.

The Cream Instagram that exists,

and one thing that the Creamers do not know

is that there are clips you see.

Oh, who's making the clips?

It's not me.

Is it you, Evan?

It's not me.

It's not me.

If it's not me, if it's not me,

then who's editing them?

It's not deck, either.

It's not deck.

And if it's not deck, then who's editing them?

It's see you laser.

It is.

Shout out.

Recruited by the cream lords.

Shout out to our boy.

See you later.

Here's a machine.

Yeah.

He sends me reels and I go, this is fantastic.

It's deck.

Let's get that.

So if you'd like to follow our Instagram,

that is @carsruleeverything.

Yeah, we couldn't get a cream,

but it's very long.

Yeah.

And @cream is taken and @dots in Instagram,

isn't it?

No.

But @carsruleeverything.

Go on there.

Do your stuff.

Comment things.

There is someone commenting saying,

Mr.

President, there has been a 13th reel on

CarsWorld Instagram.

That's quite good.

That's been going on for some time.

I unfortunately wish to let you know that

there are something like 50 scheduled reels.

So you will be commenting that.

Yeah.

Maybe they're scheduling the comments somehow.

Oh, okay.

I have some sort of bots that goes every time that post.

Post that.

So yeah.

But you're a dedicated bunch.

We'll give you that shout out to the gang.

Dedicated.

I think some of you are sort of 24/7 creamers.

Are you going?

Not healthy.

I don't need a job.

I'll just cream.

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It's

called A, Edwin, prepare your fingers the top plus.

of Ferrari's, they are big.

You see, Laurie's on the motorway that have a

26 plate and yet they look like they're from

2003 or from 1991.

They look like a daft truck from old the old times.

That's what I thought 2020 looked like in the year 2000.

Jet powered.

That's crazy cool.

The Mercedes looks quite sad,

I think.

It does look quite sad.

It has a handlebar mustache.

He's like an old Texan cowboy.

Yeah, but it also looks incredibly modern.

Yeah, I agree.

I quite like a lorry.

I think our lorry is a better than those

stupid American lorries.

I totally agree.

They're just a necessary...

What's it called?

Big lorry, Cabova.

I think.

Over cab?

What's it called?

No, I think I was a cab over.

Cabriolet.

No, I'd love to see one.

Long nose.

No, that's not it.

I'm an American.

What?

What's a European like a scania?

Hold on, that's called a cab over.

You see it on top of the end of the time,

Jim?

Yeah.

What makes way more sense?

I've just put in truck names.

I've got...

George.

I've just put in truck names.

I've got recycling truck, fire truck,

delivery truck, types of lorries.

What's a long, like a big American lorry?

Patrol boat.

That's not a lorry.

It's a patrol boat.

It's got a photo of a concrete mixer.

No thing else, right?

Edwin, please.

Back in the room.

Sorry.

What's it called?

Boat with...

No.

Lorry with long nose.

Lorry those...

We've got a cab over truck or a flat nose or

a forward control truck.

Have a cab sitting directly above the front axle.

There will be lorry drivers listening to this

as they are lorry driving right now,

going tearing their hair out.

By the gate.

Fantastic.

Conventional.

Conventional or long nose trucks have a

traditional hood in front of the driver.

I actually think I saw a real recently of

like a tour of one of them.

And listen, America.

I don't understand.

Well, I do know why.

It's because in Europe, we have a lot of

tighter roads and stuff.

So it's more maneuverable because you have

long nose and you set over.

It's also for servicing so that the engine is

easily accessible at the front,

as opposed to having to lift the whole cab.

But also in the US, I know they do a lot of

basic straight roads.

So you can have that.

It's a bit like getting in like a BSRST that

we have versus like a big, long truck.

Okay.

Just going straight.

That's like a brand new American truck.

It's built in like the '80s.

Are they built?

Do they have a bigger built engine?

They have a engine.

Do they have a bigger engine?

I'm assuming they do because it's very good.

But in terms of like for going further is

what I mean.

I don't know the answer to that.

I guess you have every answer.

I just think they're not necessary.

I'm sure they're not unnecessary and

Americans will tell me that wrong.

But I prefer allories.

Allories look like they're doing business.

They look like that.

Allories are on job.

And the guy said in the video,

he was like, yeah, this one has got all analog dials.

But why do you want that?

Well, you want it's like a screen,

like a modern thing.

It's all functional for work.

I don't know the end.

I've always wanted to drive a lorry.

I wanted to know what the ins and outs of it are.

But what do people prefer to people want a manual lorry?

Do you want that?

Do you want that lovely deal-cut-clutch lorry?

As far as I'm aware, I think in the US they

want manual lorry.

It's like a shame for to not have that.

I've just found a comparison between European

and American trucks.

It's still a little breakdown.

Engines and power.

Fantastic album name for our sequel.

European trucks, 11 to 13 liter engines,

optimized for fuel efficiency and emissions compliance.

American trucks, 12 to 15 liters,

sometimes over 16.

Interesting, because that wasn't what you put

on the first bit.

Prioritizing talk for long runs and then use

your sick gearboxes, European tends to be

automated manuals standard.

American trucks tend to be older fleets still

run 18 speed

manuals, modern fleets shifting to automatic.

a lot of people.

We've already prepared the M's.

What I'm saying is that that is actually,

to me, I think it's mental.

Why do you want to change gear so much?

It's every like, try and get a 60,

it's just, m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m, changing gear up

to whatever gear it is.

Yeah.

I'd love to drive a lorry.

I've been in a cab of a lorry once.

Have you?

That's great fun.

On a big old boy as well.

I need to work at M&S and I went up a

spirally thingy in it in the passenger seat

and I was the bouncy seat with the air with

the air control seat.

It's truly lovely.

I used to, this is incredibly random.

I once hitched a lift in a truck 800 miles

from Cape Town to where I used to live in the

desert and I got sleep in the back of it.

It's just great.

In the little house, fantastic.

Yeah.

It's just a straight-up bed.

Well, he had that his truck driver was the bottom bed.

I was at the top on the top.

Oh, sorry.

The bottom bed.

Two beds, two.

It was two.

There was a top one.

What do they need that for?

For sleeping in the house.

They have hours.

No, but I mean, why do they need two?

and gets in.

Yeah, exactly.

Just a young boy.

I was 14.

Okay.

Yeah, look, it feels a bit sketchy.

It does.

It feels like a news article.

Yeah, but don't worry.

It was all above board.

But yeah, cool inside.

And that was a basic

one.

That was like a super basic one.

I'm American ones that have like miniature house inside.

What shape was it?

Was it a cab over or was it a long nose?

It was a Volvo.

I want to say it was a long nose.

How long does that exist?

How long does Volvo?

Yeah.

I thought a lot of Volvo trucks are squares.

Deps because we live in England where they're

all squares.

I want to know how much faster a lorry is

when you eject your load.

I

would imagine quite.

No, no, because there are obviously

you have it when the lorry is empty,

right?

As in you have

your trailer on.

Yeah.

But nothing's in the bag.

But nothing's in the bag.

Right.

That must be relatively quick,

but you've still got a trailer.

But when you see them and they're just it's

just cab or whatever you call it.

It's just the lorry.

That's in its purest form in its speciality

superlageriform.

Surely that is an unbelievably noticeable good.

There's not many other times in it in a car

or it's not like having a boot full of shopping.

I don't know.

Maybe the equivalent is that.

I don't know.

But surely when they have tons of crud and

crap and clothes and milk and beans or

whatever it is they're transporting in their lorry.

Once that is gone, they're born to roam free.

Milk and beans.

is all they carry.

If you're a lorry driver, tell me how much

faster, do a hundred to 200 run on a draggy box.

Also, how much powers do you have?

Talk, talks, talk is mental.

And also one more thing.

I don't like it when I see a cab over lorry

with no back on it.

It feels like when you see either a dog that

will use you as a collar with no collar.

Okay, super specific, but sure.

It feels weird and also it's everything.

I think it looks like it'll fall over.

You've

been naked and just socks.

It's like seeing in a hospital gown when you

can see your

ass in the back.

That's actually exactly what it is.

Because usually they have something covering that.

It's the weirdest thing I get really uncomfortable by.

Also, why is

it not falling over?

It's a cab over.

All of the weight is along the bottom in the

correct angle.

So the cab is just laying around on top.

There's not much weight in that.

So their center of gravity must actually be very low.

You must be able to really feel the turn and hit region.

What are we talking about?

The truck, are we talking about the car?

I lost track and something.

Ben was on the bottom bunk.

Truckers will let us know in the comments.

A very quick flashback to that earlier in the episode.

with only two rear lights.

Now this is one for the visual viewers.

Yeah, but I'll put it up on the screen.

Okay.

Does that actually look...

Do you know what Ben?

I thought I was doing this as a ha ha told

you got you.

It's actually kind of good.

Here it is.

That's so much better.

That's kind of cool.

I will say that that is better.

What it is, is an FH tributo with its inner

rear lights removed.

So it's more four for eight.

I think I'm still on board with just the

normal one, but you know what this is crying out for?

15, 20 years time when the prices have got

cheap on the F8s, there's going to be an STM launch.

And what we've done is we've taken the F8,

the design, the technology of the new car and

we've rested, modded it, made it look like

that iconic, that timeless 458 that we all

know and love, the prices on them have gone

to the moon.

But the turbocharged their fate,

you can pick up for a pittance.

Yeah, it is interesting.

Now it is, I've chucked it through AI,

so it might be, they might have changed all

proportions on stuff, but you know what,

I think it's kind of cool.

That's really nice.

Expecting to have a gotcha moment.

I will, for the audio listeners,

we all send that and it will be an overlay.

It's a F8.

There's two less lights.

That's quite, yeah, no, no definition.

If you can't bother to watch.

Edwin, you put in here all good wheels.

Aftermarket.

We, people on the slide, went last week,

I don't know if he talks about this,

to DK Engineering.

Very, very cool, actually.

It's something that should have brought back

a little bit of a rule to my ruin.

Will, not me actually, got invited to--

No, we think we both got invited.

Did we?

I don't know.

I thought it was to you and then you got a message.

I got a message.

I added, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, sorry.

You always plus one.

I always plus one.

Did offer it to Ben and he said no.

No, no.

No, don't even, no, because I don't want to

go to the store.

I came into work and they said we're--

So what happened was we will got invited.

He offered it to both of us.

I said yes.

Ben did not.

Brackets, he wasn't being paid,

so I was waiting.

So I--

It was 35 degrees.

I

was wearing jogger shorts and merch and you

said, "Do you

want to come to DK Engineering?

You're a sweaty state."

And I was like, "No, I can't."

I said exactly like that too.

If you told me like, you know,

it was any kind of warning, I could have

bought a nice linen shirt to it.

Well, I now have one now.

Will and I went to DK Engineering.

The ride there was interesting Revuelto.

I regretted my life with the roof down OAC

and 37 degree heat.

But anyway, we went to DK.

They had like a kind of a mini concours type

beat and they had the doors open so we could

look around and we were boy looking around.

Oh, God.

Nice, cool.

But we were looking at, what car was it?

I can't remember now.

They were--

We were looking at a 2.8 GTO on a ramp.

Exactly.

And they have speed line, like split rims.

And I've realised that all cool wheels that

are made from manufacturers that are on like

OEM cars are because they go to aftermarket

companies to make them.

They go to a speed line, they go to a nose

head, they go to a whoever.

Now granted, most wheels aren't actually made

by the manufacturer.

A Volkswagen wheel is probably not made by VW.

They go to a wheel manufacturer like Ronald

or someone or PBS back in the day and say,

"Can you make this design?"

But a lot of times when they're developing

like a race car, or a cool or a rare car,

they collaborate with that company and say,

"Can you use your racing wheel technology to

build us a wheel for this car?"

So for instance, the 288, if you look at the

328 wheel, it's just a cast normal wheel for

cost and whatever.

Whereas the 288 GTO has like a split rim race

car wheel, but it's always, any time they do

a club, it's cool.

Is it also when they're allowed to brand it

as a aftermarket wheel a bit more where it's

called a speed line, it's called a BBS,

rather than going full manufacturer.

It always tends to be a little bit better.

Yeah, right.

A lot of wheels are, was it the 46 M3,

the 19's that you always see there?

They are a Fux wheel.

I'm pretty sure.

Which one?

The 19 inch.

Oh, the 46 M3, that is a Fux wheel,

so if you could make that, but you would

never know that outside of it anywhere else.

And then there's so many things like that.

The CSL wheel?

I don't know how many wheels are actually

made by the manufacturer.

The CSL wheel, it's a BBS.

It's stamped on it, BBS wheel.

I can't remember the number,

but They're all just cool.

It's whenever they go, you make something,

just make us something.

What's a speed line?

Speed line on that shit.

You know, speed line, OZ, BBS.

Those are the three big European guys.

I'm a big fan of, anytime you're doing a

split room in an OEM car, you're probably

doing it right.

It's nice.

Yeah, even exhaust, actually.

I remember hearing that, back when we were at

Carthrot, we used to do lots of videos about

like factories and how they make stuff and

that kind of thing.

You can't actually say the brands,

'cause we weren't even meant to say then.

There are brands who make well-known exhaust

manufacturers and they make exhausts for

Bentley and whoever else, but they never say

that that's who it was.

It's not stamped on any of the exhausts,

they're just the people who make it.

So they do a lot, there's a lot of

outsourcing from these companies,

which makes sense.

But if you made anything in the house,

it would take a long time.

Shout out aftermarket wheels,

gotta be my favorite thing in the world.

Ben, news.

I expect you to come prepared with this one.

You've told us here.

Here comes the phone from the pocket.

And

it is strong.

Polstar Band in the US.

Don't just say that again, don't repeat it.

Indeed.

Polstar have been banned in the US,

bloody hell I was expecting.

So essentially, it comes down to two things.

They've been banned on a location is the US.

Okay, cool.

No, they don't sell very many cars in the US.

Right.

Okay.

So they sell many cars in Europe.

I don't, yeah, I think I do sell quite a few.

We see you seem everywhere.

Hard hitting facts from Ben.

Yeah, probably.

Basically, they, the US, hang on,

I have it here, they have banned.

I can't say.

The US only have different ways to word the same story.

The Department of Commerce has revoked their

authorisation to sell under the US connected vehicle law.

Okay.

They don't sell very many cars at one point.

The main thing, though, is that it's to do

with the US banning cars made in China.

China or associated with China or Russia.

Right.

And it's, obviously, Polestar is owned by

Gili, who also own Volvo.

They share some design DNA, and that's China's company.

So they're banned because of that.

The interesting thing is that as far as I

know where, the Polestar III is built in America.

Oh, interesting, yeah.

So they're gonna build them in the US,

but they just shift them out of the US

because they can't sell them in the US anymore.

So it's from next year.

That's, that's, that's like our G.R.

Corollas, then.

That's a taste of their medicine.

They're built here?

Built in, right?

They're built here in the UK.

They're built here in the UK.

They're just not swindered now.

It's, I can't remember, someone commented it

before, but they're built in the UK and then

they go off to America and we can't have them.

So that's, that's, yeah.

So then we're gonna get a Polestar band.

Well, as in, you can't sell them.

Illegal.

Yeah.

Band.

Yeah.

Prison.

Prison for the last dollars.

German prison.

Polestars will now be in an American prison.

Yeah, so I thought that's very interesting

that they've, they've gone.

They'd be banned in America.

God.

I might just stop doing it.

God.

No, I think you should keep it up then.

I don't think we've missed much.

Entertain.

We would have done exactly the same amount.

We'd lose entertainment.

And what are people gonna do that get their

news from here?

Normal news is boring.

Yeah.

So you might as well spice it up a bit by

doing it three weeks too late and a little bit wrong.

Tea hair, cream.

Cream.

Cream motto.

Revuelto, Jay Priza, next thing I'd like to talk about.

Okay.

So I had the Revuelto since last Thursday,

isn't that Monday, and it was morning.

I used it, and now it was silver that car.

So it's relatively subtle in terms of color,

but it is a Revuelto.

So it sticks out more than a sore thumb,

like quite a painful sore thumb actually.

So it gets quite a lot of attention and I

managed to host a somewhat impromptu car meet

at the weekend.

So I pulled, there's a little label I know in

me where I might pull over to text pictures or whatever.

It's normally empty and it was empty.

So I pulled in lovely day.

And then Mercedes pulled in,

it drove past me actually and then turned

around and came back.

And it was a mum and her son and they pulled

up and were like, "Can I take a picture of the car?"

I was like, "Yeah, I'll let him sit in there

and he's revved it."

It was actually really nice.

And then two more cars pulled up.

And I thought, maybe they just pulled up to

stand there or to do whatever to sit and lay by.

No, they all got out of their cars and

perhaps another five or six people walked

over and were like, "Can we take a picture of the car?

Can I sit in it?"

And then at this, I had a queue of people

saying, "Can I sit in there?"

1:09:30 Revuelto Car Meet and Creamer Interactions

"Can I rev it?"

And they're all taking pictures,

taking pictures of each other.

I was like, "Now, I'm all for sharing this car."

And actually, one of the things I wanted to

do over the weekend and since having it is

share it with absolutely everyone.

No one ever gets a chance to see these cars

or sit in them or experience them or even

just see them out on the road.

So as many people as can see it as possible,

but I was stretching that slightly too far by

having, I thought, "Do I start to stand?

Do I need to get a sandwich board to charge for this?"

What goes on?

But it was quite cool to be fair,

'cause again, all of these people really have

to see it.

And then I was just about to leave it.

Although car pulled up and was like,

"Do you mind if I take a picture with my son?"

Turns out there was a car show,

Tim and it's down the road.

So lots of people were returning from that,

saw the real well-term.

It was like, "Little bonus."

Well, there's a, it's like Montreal League,

it's like, you know, Buckinghamshire.

And then another one I wanted to talk about,

actually, there was a creamer near me who

works in a restaurant, an Italian restaurant,

which is quite lovely, actually.

And I've met him a couple of times and he was

very, very professional the first time I met

and where he didn't say anything at all.

very, very good at his job.

And then right at the end, when I was paying

the bill, he said, "Congratulations on the

Lamborghini, by the way."

So I had no idea that he, like,

very cool.

So every time I've gone back,

I've chatted to him.

And the last time I went in there with the

weekend and I had the Revuelto,

and I said, "I have the Revuelto,

do you want to sit?"

And I showed him it outside and he sat in it

and everything.

And I thought, it was like, eight o'clock,

I think.

And by the time I left, it was like 8.45.

I said to him when I left, I was like,

"You know what?

Again, I want people to experience this."

I was like, "When do you finish?"

He was like, "11."

He was like, "Okay, it's a little bit late."

But it's fine.

I went home and I came back,

I took him out in it.

And it was just great.

But he listened to the podcast.

Name is Lewis.

They're listening.

Shout out Lewis.

Shout out Lewis.

Cream of the week.

Cream of the week.

Cream of the week.

Not a cream of the week, but he was very,

very happy.

Has a Volvo pole star, I think.

We can't take it to America.

Do not go to America.

Actually, he can be put in German prison.

But my girlfriend encouraged me because I was

like, "Should I go back?

Should I do that?

Is that weird to do that?"

She'd take him out in it.

I have interest.

What did your girlfriend think of it?

She really hated that.

She loved the way she thought it looks kind of cool.

But cars on like that are completely lost in

the acceleration.

Not happy.

Not a fan of that at all.

My granddad loved it.

My girlfriend, not so much.

Funnily enough, on Friday when you had the

car, there was a meeting of everyone seemed

to turn up to drop things up.

Firstly, my girlfriend arrived.

Quite famously, I sent her out in your GTR

with you when you had it.

which was how 750, I was expecting her to be

like, what the hell?

She went, I was like, what's he talking about?

You'll

never go in and anything else in your life.

So when you got here, I was like,

you've got to go out in that car.

Because I need you to be scared of some sort of car.

And when she came back, she went,

no, that's too fast.

And I said, did you actually like enjoy it?

She went, I closed my eyes.

It was too fast.

I closed my eyes.

I think everyone got a launch control.

Everyone.

I'm very sorry.

I didn't.

Because remember, it didn't work.

It said, thrust mode, not possible.

Just for Edwin.

So that's a shame.

I can't believe it.

But I mean, the launch drawn in that car is unbelievable.

But yeah, the amount of launches,

I don't know.

Maybe there's something in the small print I

should have looked at that said,

please do not do that.

But also just, just a big thank you for the