0:00 / 1:40:30 Selling Lamborghini to Jay Kay

Selling a Car To Jay Kay, Lowest Selling New Cars and S2000 For Sale? - C.R.E.A.M. #81

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  • Edwin
  • Will
  • Ben

0:00 Selling Lamborghini to Jay Kay

They said to us, "Well, the car is actually

for quite high-profile clients."

And who is that, Will?

It goes sort of jk of Jamaica.

I enjoy living rent-free in your head.

It is so spacious.

I have room to lay down.

Edwin can come in, live in your mind.

Anyone can be there.

It is wonderful.

I'd

like to suggest a new technology to add to Gantries.

It's a

clown camera.

No, it's a gun.

Okay.

First, Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast

with myself Edwin, William to my left,

Benjamin to my front back.

Hello, whoa.

Yeah, clean.

How's that?

That was good.

At the beginning of every cream episode,

we answer the question with a Cars Rule or

Ruin, everything around us.

William, there is a lack of a yellow thing here.

There is still a lack.

People are going to be antsy at this point.

Trust me, if you're antsy, I'm antsy.

They've waited antsy together.

Three weeks now.

Wow.

I've waited 20 something.

Yes.

Trust me, I love Titanic.

You're way older than that.

No, most of all, it is happening.

It's happening.

There's lots of finance-related.

Viewer and credit-red.

Yes.

There's lots of crap happening.

When you buy a car, an auction like that,

if you don't collect it the day after and pay

it in cash, which I cannot do,

it goes into storage.

I am also currently just racking up a storage fee.

Tough as I keep forgetting about that.

I'm hoping that it will

be there for that if it wasn't.

I'm sorry, but it will be somewhere soon.

It will be in the

future.

I think so.

Let's get it straight out there.

So this last past weekend, a little bit ago

for you now, if you're a creamer,

listening is was Bista Scramble,

Mr.

Scamble legs.

And it is a great event.

If you have not considered doing Scramble,

they are one of the best events,

in my opinion.

Bista, we do the food and fuel at Bista,

where it's the front part, the hanger and the fields.

But in Bista Scramble, they open up the old

ammo stores and all the really cool bits.

cars everywhere, full of eggs.

That's why they call it Scramble.

Of course.

I went on Sunday in the Tuscan after I'll

talk

about that in a bit.

But as I was going in, a very kind man,

I think he said he was a creamer.

So shout out to you, said,

I love the channel.

Have a golden ticket, Charlie,

bye.

I looked at the golden ticket and he said,

it gets you into the show.

I thought, Oh, cool.

That means I'm in like the little bit

preferred parking, not the back,

the back rooms.

He went, no, no, that gets you into like the

center of it.

So I was just in the center of Mr.

Scramble, got out walking around and I saw a

little yellow bingle looking directly at me

and I said to my mate, that's a lot like Will's car.

And lo and behold, out on the screen,

we're looking at right now a yellow

Lamborghini Galado with the plate GK 04 UWV.

Will, why is that important to that plate?

Because that is my old car.

Now old car.

So now basically last Friday that car was

basically confirmed.

I had the sort of final payment bits come through.

It's gone.

It's gone to its new owner and it literally

had an MOT on the Saturday and then was at

Sunday Scramble on the Sunday.

So quite a nice turnaround.

It looks basically the same.

It's on the original plate.

There's no longer spaces on it.

It said the wheels are now a little bit shallow.

It had to have a couple.

There was a couple of bits on that car that

they wanted to be perfect.

So basically that car was hauled through DK Engineering.

Which is incredibly cool.

They said they were after a glardo for a

client and I said, look, because of

Mercilorgo, I might be interested in doing that.

Sold it through them.

Part of the reason I did that,

because I did have other offers on the table

and actually some of them were actually more

is that I just wanted to deal with DK.

And I knew that going to DK meant we could go to DK.

And that was what a few weeks ago we talked

about that secret thing we went to go and look at.

Shout out to the creamers who are at DK Engineering.

It was crazy.

And thank you very much to James for giving

us, well, giving, getting someone to give us a tour.

Yeah, Freddy.

Incredibly.

people.

I was a bit worried.

Obviously it's there's a lot of very rich and

powerful people that deal with DK.

So I thought a lowly Gallardo,

they're going to go, yeah, yeah,

put it in the corner and piss off.

But they were just incredibly nice,

really, really nice.

gave us proper tour.

They also gave us branded water.

I've still got it.

I've kept the bottle.

I have kept the bottle.

But I'd love to go back at some point because

they're like facility.

Whenever you want to call it is unbelievable.

And we only we only scratched the surface.

Yeah.

They've got there's probably a lot of stuff

they don't even want to show or whatever else.

But there's things going on there.

But more importantly, they said to us,

well, the car is actually for quite high profile client.

Yeah.

And who is that?

Well, it got sold to JK of Jamaica.

Now, I got a message from Thomas actually of

horsepower hunters.

He was the first person that Edwin sent me a

picture of the car, but he didn't know.

And it was related to JK.

And Thomas sent me a message said,

JK owns your car.

Question mark.

And I just said, what?

Because I was like, again, they did say it's

going to go to someone who's going to use it.

It's someone who's very, very cool,

but I thought, and it'd just be some rich

dude or whatever.

And no, it turns out JK has bought it.

I don't think he drove it.

I think a friend who's drove it.

He took an 812 and I think a flat 9 and over.

The three of them there.

But I was baffled.

My spirits were lifted 10 fold.

I was just smashing out Jamaica in my 600

pound Alfred Maio at the weekend.

Well, I was like, I literally kept saying,

I kept saying to my girlfriend,

I said, JK.

you can't.

JK is looking at the cargo.

That's ex Will from TDC.

That one is.

But I said, I just just baffled it.

Even if you told me two years ago,

even a year ago, that JK would buy my Galardo

so that I can go and get a Mercilago.

Make that make sense.

But yeah, that's incredibly cool.

So now that's a requirement.

Now, before it was like, JK would be a really

cool podcast guest.

No, no, he needs.

No, we now need JK.

So JK needs to be on the podcast.

I would

6:27 Ben's S2000 for Sale

quite like to get the double.

Even if it's not even for a podcast.

I'd quite like to get the Mercilago and the

Galardo together, because obviously they

never got a chance to cross over because I

can't afford that.

But it would be cool to them together and

then do a podcast and have a look at his

calls and just speak to him.

All of the above.

Technically, they did cross over.

Well, because you technically still owned it

till Friday of last week and you bought the

Mercilago last summer, I haven't paid for the

Mercilago yet.

Absolutely not in Will's name.

But legally, you want it.

Yeah.

Well, legally, we'll have the right to pay for it.

There you go.

You have too much Lamborghinis,

didn't you?

But yeah, crazy world.

But yeah, it confirmed JK bought my

Lamborghini Guadalajal to choose mental.

So rule because of that, rule because of

that, I've been, it has no value to me,

but it's just cool.

Just the whole week, that whole Sunday,

I was like, JK, my car, JK.

I'm going to see that car sell for like a

quarter of a million pounds on the future,

because it goes exerger miracle,

I sing a JK ex-Gilago.

I think that's ex-TDC, thank you very much.

I worked on that myself.

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I'm

going to go for a ruin.

Okay.

Well, you know what was

coming, Ben.

I'm going to sell my S2000.

I didn't think you'd

come out with it.

I didn't think I was going to talk about it,

but I am.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The love is gone.

Love is gone.

Something very sad happened this morning.

It's tough when you spoke about it,

because you came in this morning.

Today's Monday.

Today is Monday.

You've come in from your weekend.

Yeah.

And you said you took the S2000 for a drive.

Yeah.

And you think, because sometimes that can

reignite a flame.

The weather is right.

Everything is perfect.

You'll go out for a drive and you go,

"You know what?

This is just what I needed.

I'm keeping this car."

Or it pushes you to go and do more,

fix more of something else.

But you didn't have that, did you?

I just don't love it.

That's tough.

And it's the rough one.

I think listeners will know this.

I think it's pretty obvious.

My reaction is to it over the last few months.

I just don't, I don't feel anything to it.

Right.

It really annoys me.

I drove it from my house, my girlfriend's

house, which isn't that far.

It's probably like half an hour.

But after I drove it, I got out of the car

feeling kind of annoyed.

So I was in it, like, I just,

I want to like it and I don't like it.

Is there something you can do?

I think it's like a sort of counseling.

But like doing a modification,

doing something that goes, you know what?

The fire rises.

The noise would help.

But it's like when I hit, if you hit the tech

in it, it's not a nice induction kit.

I feel something then for a second,

but it's not, it's not like I love this car.

car noise.

It's like, when I wasn't your tusk and a

little Edwin, I'm like, wow,

this isn't my car, but I'm enjoying the noise of it.

I mean, it's not my car.

But changing that, we'll get on to it.

I'm sure it's sick.

But changing that noise has changed that car.

Oh, completely.

But that's what I mean.

If you were to just try the exhaust thing,

maybe.

Or all day, literally all of today,

we have been trying to, trying to give Ben

different options.

We're like, there's, there's,

there's got to be another way.

There has to be another way of this.

It's, I accept today, yesterday.

I think I've thought it for a while.

I just don't, we had a debate earlier where

I've actually said publicly if I love that car.

I don't think I have said that.

You claim, you claim that when we asked you,

if you love it, that you chose your words very carefully.

Again, this falls into this relationship

where it's, no, no, no, I do like you.

Yeah.

Join us now.

I just don't see my future with you.

It's that, it's that part of a relationship

where you both know it's over.

But who's going to, who's going to let go first?

And hopefully it's not, it's probably,

that's a part of the, part of the

relationship where you have to modify.

Yeah.

Put, you know, cut the back box open and,

you know, yeah.

Yeah.

Slings are really making the same.

Sorry.

Slings, you came on.

You put two pipes in there.

You put two more pipes on the back box.

Would you be open to trying that first

before, before the divorce?

No, because my belief with it is not the

sound, it's the way it drives.

Well, Ben, Ben's, Ben's got,

can we try can?

It's like, Ben's gone.

No, I'm off.

But would you, but do you not think there

would be a little bit of regret there?

Because what if in the future or like someone

buys an S2000 and it's just,

I've seen them.

And then you hear it and you go,

why didn't I do that to mine?

Here's where I feel.

I said this to you earlier, but I'll sit for the podcast.

I don't like how it drives.

Right.

I don't like how twitchy it is.

Edwin told me that's just how it is.

But I don't know how twitchy it is.

It doesn't film with any confidence.

I know I span it.

But when you say twitchy, how are you?

It feels like the way I describe it is the,

imagine, okay, so imagine running a bike.

You have handlebars.

You never forget.

You wouldn't let that elephant with it.

The handlebars are a certain width.

Right.

It's even very stable.

The S2000 handling to me feels like that.

But you've made the handlebars like where

your hands are basically close together,

where you can turn a little bit.

You're just turning the wheels by actually

moving the wheel.

It's too twitchy.

I want to be a slop in there.

I'm not saying that it's not objectively a good car.

Everyone who says it's a great car.

They all enjoy it.

And that's fine.

Not me.

Not everyone.

I have heard a lot of people that they're not

because the engine's not, although it is amazing.

It does lack a little bit of...

You have to really give it for someone to

make it quick.

But I just don't think it's my car.

And yes, I said these guys earlier,

I could put it on some soft suspension,

which would probably make it a bit less twitchy.

I could put it on some standard wheels.

But if I did all of that and some standard

wheels as well, 'cause I guess that probably

doesn't help.

If I did all of that, I would probably...

Yeah, I wouldn't like how it looks.

And part of me, the only thing I do like now

is how it looks.

It looks really good fare.

I do still walk away from it and go,

"That looks great."

But you like the way it looks,

but you do want to get rid of it because of

the way it drives.

I would be...

If it drove really well and you got out of it

and you thought that was exactly the drive I

had in my head, how I imagined it.

And you got out of it.

If it didn't look quite right,

I don't think that would affect you as much

as it does as a this way round does.

But then he'd go, "Right, that's perfect.

I'm going to slap some wheels and some loads

in the car."

And then he'd drive it, "Goats,

I'm going to take those wheels and loads off

and it'd be perfect."

I don't necessarily think it is.

I'm sure the mods don't help it.

I just don't think it's for me.

Declio, I love the way it drove.

I would get in that car.

What I would do is I had the X5 on the clear.

So in the week, I drive the X5 and I like the X5.

But when I got to the weekend,

I was like, "Yes, I can daily the clear.

I can chuck stuff in it.

I can go and I really want to go for a drive in it."

Whereas the S2000, this weekend was

beautifully sunny and for Saturday,

I had pervert opportunity.

I had to go around and do stuff.

I had little windy country roads that could

have taken to the golf.

I looked at it.

I went out and taken the golf.

That's a crazy one.

And it's never like I did it because of air conditioning.

The golf air conditioning isn't working currently.

So you know what?

This is the worst thing.

Ben, earlier said he was like,

I love the golf.

It's so good.

And then he said, yeah, when I switch is a

broken, don't have any AC.

I can't, you know, can't use this.

It's broken.

I can't open the windows because my window

switch is broken.

I need to fix that.

And my air conditioning needs to be guessing.

So I was just sat on a hop.

I still have it.

I just love that crazy.

That means it's time for the S2000 to go.

So by the time this podcast is out,

it may already be up.

So I'm going to break to shed first because car event.

I will at some point, it might not be up for

sale by the time it comes out.

But if not soon, we've said it before.

99.9% of you are all good with this.

Please, can we not have clowns?

None of you are original.

I'll give you a packet.

Shut up.

Shut up.

If you're serious, please do let

Ben know if you're interested.

Because the last, the Clio, went to a

creamer, went to a--

I believe so.

A follower, I believe so.

And they've enjoyed it and liked it.

So perhaps there could be a deal to be done.

And all jokes are signed to be joked about

the engine, all thing, but it is actually fine.

14:55 Renault Clio 1.7/200 Discussion

Yeah, that actually is fine.

Yeah.

We joke many times.

That car started up after some deep storage

and not a peep.

It's fine.

Not a peep.

Listen, I'm not gonna, it could probably

throw like a tension on it.

I have record of it being done,

but it doesn't necessarily--

It's been the salesman, so it's been things I

don't wanna--

I'm not gonna--

You're gonna be--

When I'm going to view a car.

You could probably like a tension on it.

No, I'm sure I need a timing belt.

I'm not gonna say it's perfect.

I'm not going to play it.

I'm gonna be honest about it.

It had there are stuff that you could do to

it, but also it has had some nice bits done recently.

Simply lovely.

So is it a ruin for that reason?

It's a ruin, but it does.

It does mean these guys believe I am now quitting cars.

I think I just don't think there's another car car.

I think it could be a while before we see another car.

I think you'll have some time out of the

scene for a while.

I think it could be a couple of months where

I have only one car, but I'll come back.

But a couple of months becomes years.

There's never a right time for that.

Can you think that will happen to me working here?

Yes.

No, okay.

There will be a few months where I probably

have one car.

Now, there is one other thing facets to talk

about, because what's somersaults this,

Ben?

and what's that date?

That'll be June the 20th something.

Okay, now, there was an official L put on the line.

Will, this was months ago.

I've got time to spare.

Did we even mention this in the podcast?

I don't know if we did, but Will said for an

official L, then I think something will come

along and it will force you to a sell at S2000.

And then that was where Ben said,

"Absolutely, of course I'm not gonna sell that car."

I enjoy living rent free in your house.

He is so spacious.

I have room to lay down, I can invite,

Edwin can come in, live in your mind.

Anyone could be there, it is wonderful.

Yeah.

So there might be another scroll,

a foot.

So that's a ruin and a rule,

it's a definitely rule for me.

This last weekend, I got the Tuscan,

I put some form of pipes on the car.

They are not related to felines at all.

Do they look like them?

What's that?

They look, they just look like pipes.

Oh, they are pipes.

They're just pipes to the bottom of the car.

Can I set a cat on that?

Of course they, of course they,

there's a cat on the car.

Yeah, who's asking?

Of course there's a cat on the car.

Well, it has number two, it has a cat.

Exactly right.

Obviously, it wouldn't have passed that way,

would it?

And then the rear back boxes,

they have, they're like carbon motorcycle

ones, they were dying, so I replaced them

with some ones that definitely have baffling

in, and they definitely silence.

I got some I got some stick for that,

calling them mufflers.

That's American, there's silence,

there is a UK back box.

So I'll stock some silences on it,

but they're not, they're just tubes.

And my God, does it sound good,

that completely transformed that car.

I already liked that car, I loved it,

but now, the sound it made, when you first

got it, made it sound a little bit,

made it sound a little bit beat up,

a little bit like, oh, there's something

missing there, 'cause it was that like

whistle, but now, it sounds like a '60s Lamon

car, it has, and this last weekend,

if you're a creamer listening,

we would have been at Shedfest,

Alex's big show, it hopefully made it up

there, and I hopefully did some donuts,

and I hopefully did some burnouts.

So hopefully some of you heard it,

otherwise you heard a Speed 6 engine,

shattering into oblivion.

But for now, right now, I'm over the moon,

'cause it was a lovely weekend,

made the car a bit louder, worked on the MX-5

as well, got that, working a bit more,

my boost control on our works,

now makes like, 200 odd horsepower,

and then went to humble egg,

so it's lovely.

I'm happy, I'm done.

The TBR, I heard it in person for the first

time today, in the car, but I heard it for

the first time from outside,

I was in the ML, but the sun really opened,

so I could hear it.

And honestly, if you close your eyes on a

proper pull, it's the lift off noise it

makes, it's unbelievable.

Like I said, like an old Le Mans car,

it wouldn't sound out of place,

on the grid, like a members meeting.

Yeah, it is.

It's crazy.

And it is the only, that engine,

'cause that engine is the same in the SCARIS,

the T350, the tomorrow, the Tuscan.

That speed six engine is unique to sound like that.

You cannot make it, I've never heard an over

and out on any other car that does it.

It's so good, I love that car,

so very much.

It is very good.

So I'm in, I'm in rule two.

Shall we start?

I'm letting the side down Benjamin.

Come on, Ben.

We need to, we need some spirits up next week.

You've got to find a car that you love.

That's a very bad moment.

Very bad moment.

Very quick one, tell the gang what you're

thinking of that your replacements are,

because maybe you get offered one,

and shout out to the, shout out to the crew

that came up and said they would let you

drive their V12 vintage at Bista.

Should that?

Don't worry about it, that's for me to know

and you to find out.

Someone offers driving to Ben's store as well.

Hey, that was Thomas.

That was Thomas.

You're not old enough.

So you're thinking that was tough.

DC-5 Integra, you really like.

Yeah.

You said there was a downward tone on that.

I don't know if I can afford one,

but we're gonna, we're gonna,

we'll worry about that later.

DC-5 Integra, I will quite like it.

People will be confused, but it's,

because it's, it's more hatchback,

it's a bit more usable.

Frouble drive.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Clio 1.7/200.

I do really want one of those,

but then is it two, am I going back?

I'd stand back in life.

I don't think you are.

I would like, I would like a newer clear.

And an R32 Golf Mark V.

Yeah, but I can't, I don't think I can have

R32 Golf because I don't have just have two golfs.

But then you, what if you had a bit of time

out the game?

You put some pennies together and you put

some more pennies together.

Couple more pennies.

You get your S2000 but then you get

something, either you temporarily go and get

yourself clear or something,

it's gonna, 'cause it'll only cost you two

thousand, three thousand, four thousand miles.

And you like the cheap color and then you

just rank the living piss out of that or you

just save those peas and you,

like something like an M3, like an E92.

I can feel you on one of those.

That's tough.

I have to get one on one of them.

Now Ben, okay, let's look at that sort of,

that sort of accessibility in the market,

looking around the 15 to 20,000 pound race.

What is there that takes your fancy?

There's, you've got your, you know,

your term threes.

Okay.

I would like a V8.

That's why I think I haven't had that.

A V8 is smart.

It still feels kind of modern for you.

You're like, and it's usable and it's nice

and it's still kind of practical.

But it's giving you all the theater that I

think you desire.

I've come up with a car for Ben.

What is that?

I'm gonna say it and you're gonna go,

wow.

Wow.

It really is Benjamin.

An SLK 55 AMG.

It's just, it's just as SD enough for you,

isn't it?

It's just SD enough, but it has the V8.

Yeah, two seats.

And it could be a little bit spicy,

but then also just normal to drive.

Well then, what are your thoughts of the

two-seater thing?

Post S2000.

I thought S2000 are particularly

uncomfortable ones, to be fair.

No, but for spacious ones.

I haven't had one in the vibe of it,

but you are interested in another two-seater

or something.

Because I've seen a couple, I've seen a

couple of SLK 55s, coming up around six and 7,000 pounds.

Okay.

And what is the bread to keep one of those alive?

It's just a five and a half.

Is that wasn't your C55?

Basically related.

Are they good?

It's just an engine that works and works and works.

You can't do much to kill them.

I know this.

Auto though.

Auto though.

Auto like...

No manuals.

No manuals.

Is it a slushy boy?

They're okay, but they're not,

you know, they're not incredible.

It's not gonna be, it's not a,

it's not a visceral drive.

But not a bad shout.

It would do, it would do your V8 thing.

But do you like how they look?

I don't know.

Allow me to pull you off a photo.

And RS4.

It's a miniature SLR McLaren type looking.

My head teacher at school have one of these.

Not a T5, just like a normal one.

Crazy head teacher type meet.

Yeah, it would be crazy.

Yeah, it got a black series out.

I like the width of the arches on that guy.

Yeah, good.

You know, with some loads and some space.

Also hard top, incredible.

Yes, so they're usable throughout the winter.

What did we say at TTRS?

I really like the idea of that for you.

If I'm honest, it's TTRS.

TTRS.

That's kind of, that's N+, they're coming

down in price, so they're becoming more accessible.

As far as I'm aware, they're reliable.

They're not too?

23:11 TT TTRS Consideration

They're not too, correct?

I like that.

Because they are also, now what sort of,

as a zesty man, like a zesty color,

what sort of zesty color is your favorite zesty color?

I don't know why they come in.

Well, bright blue is a classic.

Bright blue is a classic.

Bright blue is a classic.

They come in the red, as well.

I don't know, I think we just the same.

I don't know red.

You don't like that.

I don't want dogs, that's not a red.

It is what I imagine, but it's a little bit.

But that doesn't even look like an art.

What's the question with that?

He's got a red, plain red painted front splitter.

But Ben, you know what, that could be,

I like the thought of it, I like the look of

it, and the car too.

And the sound is gonna really rumble yourself.

Five-cylinder.

Can you get Manuel Gearbox in that?

You can, actually the manuals are cheaper.

Correct, they are less sought after.

Wow.

You can also get a bit of nerd fact for you,

really rare set of seats that have like this

TT repeated pattern across the back of it.

I love it, I think it's really cool.

How many pounds is he?

You can, again, you can find them,

get their getting cheaper, like around about

the 10 mark is a really shabby one.

They're going up to like 15 for a kind of good one.

Okay.

Thoughts on that, thoughts on the TT?

You like that?

I enjoy that.

I can get a Mark II TTRS thing back.

Oh, well, we could, I've always liked that.

Actually, it did a spicy place.

I like that.

Oh, so that looks like that.

What's that, 2010?

You would mean that?

I think so, too.

I think the Mark II TT's actually aged quite well.

'Cause I was looking at the interiors are

lovely as well.

I think 'cause it doesn't have massive

screens and stuff.

They actually look quite nice.

'Cause I'm also on the weekend at VR6 TTs.

And I didn't realize what year that,

I thought, like, just in six,

you can get one of those.

You can also get a Mark II base model with the VR6.

Yes.

So it's not in it.

It's, so the Mark I TTs look a bit angry.

They look cool.

They've got the sport block bumper.

We can get a normal looking TT,

Mark II.

What's cool with the V6?

What about?

Here we go.

Here we go.

I've got Alfa Romeo.

But a spider holder.

Not a spider 'cause that V6 is a bit naff

that's got a GM V6.

But a little something with a buso.

They don't really.

Like a 147 or a GT or a GT.

They don't do it for you.

They will be sacrilege, but we had,

we borrowed a one for, a 147 GT.

147, I didn't like how it sounded.

Wow.

That was the best part of it.

It wasn't V6 for me.

I imagine GT-R V6 for me.

Which surprises me because you like the way

it's not V6, but in terms of,

it's that kind of noise.

It's the TVR kind of noise where it's more gruff.

I want that one.

I want that one.

I want that one.

I want that one.

So you are V6.

But then...

A five-cylinder kind of, he does that.

I'm not for us familiar with him.

You're not familiar with him,

you don't like it.

I'm not familiar with F5, I feel the five.

Ben, that's the one.

Sorry, speaking of F5.

That was it, wasn't it?

You know, we're taking, this has become fine,

Ben and you car podcast, but I'm gonna play

him a TTRS engine note for a quick lift.

And it's turbo F5 cylinder and it doesn't

take much to, if you care about,

you can leave it standard, you can do a

Spicier e-map, you can do whatever you like

to it, there's things you can do to it,

you can change wheels, you've got nice

interior modifications.

Plus, at the end of the day,

it's still just an Audi TT.

Yeah, and it will just work.

You will, there's a look that you'll be going for.

Yeah, sure, I've forgotten it.

But because it's a TTRS, you shake a little

bit of that.

Here we go, launch control, this is launch

control from a TTRS, obviously RS3 is it,

but this is a bit more weekend car.

That's nice.

Wait for it?

Yeah.

Okay.

I feel, you

felt apprehensive.

Yeah, I like it.

I watched your

emotions in play.

I like it, I like it.

I don't know.

I don't know what it is.

But you don't love it.

I can't look at what the noise is.

The easiest way.

Of course.

It's what gives, it gives him small clout.

It's a mini V10.

Yeah.

It's a miniature E60.

Okay.

That noise you're hearing is half this boy right here.

Yeah.

Half a, you know, an LFA, a KRO GTT.

Half a show, right?

I've got, I've got an absolute whopper of an

engine in there.

I've got a thing in there.

We also said a Golf Arthur II,

I think would be a great shout for you.

I'd love for, you like the engine.

I love the noise.

It gives you that sort of GTR,

that smooth powering V6 noisier after,

but it's also just a Golf.

But you can make it look nice,

but your problem is that you have a Golf.

I agree with you in that way.

It wouldn't be a special.

I think having two Golfs feels illegal.

But what's wrong with having a TT with that in it?

It's not, but that's a bit different.

TT is a bit different.

Because I was listening to noises.

Okay.

But then you've got a Mark I,

and a Mark I is even more.

But you would have a Mark II?

You could have that shape with a V6.

I know I listen to comparison noises,

and Mark I sounds better.

The revised engine.

Okay.

Yeah, but you can make them sound the same.

Okay.

Well, I don't have that.

But then the thing is with the Mark II,

3.2 TTs, they're just a standard body.

Yeah.

So they just look a bit.

Yeah, Mark I doesn't look better.

I did though.

I liked the TT Mark I, the Alex and that lot

had on their channel that we

drove on the track day last year.

The 1.80.

I liked how that drove.

They did drive, I thought it drove really well.

Well, actually, well, that's a great point.

That Ben was the fastest human on earth in that car.

That's fair.

So maybe you're destined to have a TT.

It was the way that I remember getting out of

it and liking how it handled.

Now, I'll tell you what, there are,

I have always liked Mark I want TTs.

There are a few good wheels that you can do

and some setups on them that look very,

very nice.

You can get the, originally they came with a

factory set of BBSs.

Really?

They're really nice.

I will show you, I'll show a photo of it.

Here you go.

So that is a fact, those are the factory wheels.

They are like a multi-spoke BBS type wheel

that came standard on them.

I like that.

So the VR6 and a bit of VR6 noise,

that would really get me.

Okay.

And you'd lock a manual.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rowan 8 Sam had a R32 Golf, Mach 5 one.

Actually quite a few years ago now,

but it was one of the first cars that,

actually it was the first performance car

that any of me and my mates owned.

Right.

I was like, I'm gonna be getting that.

I was like, this thing sounds sick.

And it was, it was, it was a res delete.

It's unbelievable.

Now I put this to you.

A TT Mach 1 3.2.

Yeah.

Or a DC 5 Integra, which takes your pick.

I want the engine.

What does that mean?

Or the engine of the, the DC 5 are probably better.

Overall, as a driving experience,

you, I look for the noise up.

Well, well, well.

GTR noise, which is one of both clears.

So in that case, I think we need to be on a

hump for a nice spec Mach 1 TT.

Manual Mach 1 TT with a little 3.2 in it.

Difficult to find and appreciating classic to be sure.

Most people will be going for the Mach 2 or

the TT RS, but the car you really want is the Mach 1.

Grand TT, we're back.

Right, what have we got next after that?

Long anecdote, but we are on.

Another anecdote related to JK that I have to

get out, because it was very,

very funny.

Told a few people today that the Glado had

been sold to JK, which they were all very

surprised at, and then we told Rory.

Yep.

We didn't tell him explicitly,

we just said guess who bought the Glado.

And Ben started singing, now what was it?

I started saying lyrics, and I said think Cosmic Girl.

Yeah.

Think of little L.

And Rory said, Peter André.

(laughs)

I like the idea better that Peter André

bought my Glado, quite funny.

Actually, I don't know if he's that into the

sort of mid-2000s manual Lamborghinis,

but perhaps I'm wrong.

I had the same thing when my girlfriend got

home, I was playing Jamaica on my speaker,

the B.O.

Sam thing that I love, and I said to her,

guess who bought Will's Glado?

She said, who?

I pointed at my speaker, and she went,

do you know, sound my mouth?

No, it was so much comfort.

I

think because you said the lyric,

didn't you?

Yeah.

Whatever the lyric was from one of the songs.

Peter André.

Crazy.

Anyway, so anyway, Peter André confirmed the

new Lamborghini

Glado.

There he is, collab with the jamira quai.

First off,

on the anecdotes, we'll get to some news bits

in a bit, but we have a, I've got to send them ads.

I will admit, I don't remember exactly who

this person was, but multiple people have sent it.

So you can all take credit.

Right.

Benjamin, tell me what we're seeing on the screen.

Right.

On the screen is a Facebook marketplace ad

for a, it's a Honda HRV.

Right.

First pictures look pretty good.

It's in the Somerset.

Yes.

For £550 and the first image is of the

steering wheel, just POV shot and the

steering wheel is turned.

I'm going to

call it 25 degrees to the right.

Okay, in the second photo.

What?

Oh, this say though is of a sort of tight

country lane, quite muddy, and it's on its side.

It's on its side.

Descripted Honda HRV, Ford Drive,

brackets, rolled-ish, nine lives special.

But what's impressive is I don't know how you

roll it on that road.

Yeah, that's quite in that fashion.

There is a verge, quite tall verge,

but it looks difficult to do that much damage there.

But I like, the thing I like most about it is

that that is the second photo.

If you use that as the first photo,

you'd get thousands of them,

look at it.

They went, you know, we'll go with the old,

we'll go with the cockpit shot,

but I quite like the idea that they rolled it

and then went, "I'll have to sell it."

Straight on eBay, just put it out for sale.

Straight off for sale.

But yeah, I like that.

It's brazen and it's very honest as well.

If there was an honest car and an honest ad,

that's it right there.

No hiding any damage.

Why with confidence?

Why the idea that they rolled the car and

then got out and went, "That's what I chose on Facebook."

Yeah, just straight up.

And then the most little underside shot you

can see, it's all clean, they're rust free on this side.

We'll show you the passengers or the driver's

side a little bit later once I get this unrolled.

And if you want to go and view it,

it's just in the same

33:07 Funny Car Ad on Facebook Marketplace

space.

Yeah.

Where's the car?

It's in the same.

I'm in this

lane.

What number?

No, you'll find it.

Next up, we have

from you, Edwin, a man at the petrol station.

I was in the

Tuscan last week on the way back from a shoot

and I pulled up at a BP.

It was quite late in the evening.

So it was very quiet.

It was one of those BP's that has a big M&S.

That's great.

Get some food.

But as I pulled up, there was a bad boy spec

brand new RS6.

Notto, Notto, grail, whatever they're

equivalent there, you know, they're crown gray.

The, I think they call it a,

what did they call it?

Where all the badges are black,

all the trims are black.

Everything's black.

That's the one.

That's the official one.

It took that box.

Black wheels, red calipers, whopper driving.

Yeah.

Obviously, whopper driving.

No, it's like, right.

Let me see.

Which, which turkey-teeth man is driving this car around?

What's in the BP?

And it all looked quite quiet.

I was like, that's weird.

Anyway, bought my condiments and what such.

And as I was leaving, there was a proper old

boy, Tweedjacket, it was like,

farmer.

And he was looking around the Tuscan.

And I was like, oh, how are you doing?

And he was genuinely nicest dude.

And he was like, oh, it's a repainty,

they don't, you know, patty that they went

under, they made a part of the car.

And he was like, yeah, I've always wanted one

dream to one for many years.

And he was like, congratulations on it.

Really, really good to see it keep going.

I mentioned it up with mileage.

He was like, fantastic, fantastic.

He turned around and got on the RS6.

Crazy.

And I took a, and I happened to take a photo

because I was filming.

I wanted to film the Tuscan as I was leaving.

So I happened to catch him in.

I've blurred the number plate.

This is the man getting into an RS6 performance.

Nah.

That is, sorry, can we pick now?

I don't want to dox anyone.

I've got the jumper, a knit jumper,

a tweed jacket, perhaps an avocado or two in the hand.

I was going to say, what do you buy?

Those are working man shoes.

That's a farmer's shoe.

They've been used.

That's shoe.

And I've got a photo of this when I got the car.

Look at the spec.

That is a, that is, I had boy spec.

Yeah, that is full.

Like, he's not in the right car.

The whole shebang.

He must have got in the wrong car.

But I looked at it, I was like,

is he the passenger?

No, he got on the drive seat,

started up.

It sounded, it looked, it looked lower than

standard and it sounded like it had some spicy pipes.

But who's, is that his?

I wonder if he's the type who's just,

he's just had RS6s.

He's just had an RS6 new.

The amount of money that man has tanked on RS6s.

He doesn't care.

He's just got, I get a brand new RS6 every 10 years.

And that's it, that's me good.

But absolutely, you know what,

the moment he got in, I was like,

now I like the spec.

Before I was like, this is a dickhead spec.

The moment he got in, I was like,

kinda cool.

He didn't go for, I don't want green.

He walked in and went, no, I want that one.

Give me the sports seats.

Give me the sports seats.

All the badges, sir.

Yes, yes I want that.

Of course I want those black badges.

But you know what, if you know who that is,

shout out to your relative.

Old people

in cool cars.

It is cool.

It is always cool.

It is

always cool.

Stay, if you're gonna be old,

at least be cool.

Fair enough.

Let's smash out some news, Ben.

I hope you're ready for this.

I wasn't.

Well, let's do it.

Your first one.

Sure.

Completely at random.

The new seven series, please.

The new seven series is here with the Neuya class design.

And I just wanna see your opinions on it.

I thought we had a new.

It's the new new.

It's a facelift of the--

Oh, so it is, okay.

It's just, I get it.

Do you know what?

It's not great, but I don't think it's any

worse than the one before.

It's a big fish mouth.

It's the same.

Yeah.

It's very similar.

It has a bit more of an sort of edgy angle at the front.

Is that--

Oh, that's it.

That's the end of the story.

Oh, no, no, sorry.

Those like vents in the front bumper,

were they there before?

So I would describe this as,

think of that new seven series,

the weird, the weird one with the big screen

in the back, but they've made the lights even

thinner, I think.

They've made them a bit thinner.

The one thing I did remember reading about

them though, is that they have now got Rolls-Royce spec.

The little pinstripe up the side,

and the two tone is now--

As you can see, the two tone is a bit of Mayback-esque.

Yeah, so that is now an option that you can

choose, and you can also have different paint

styles top to bottom.

So you can have a matte top half,

and a metallic bottom half.

You can, and they said it's like 600 new

colors or something you can choose from.

It's just fetus.

It's off the goes.

It's just feeling like an attempt at a Rolls-Royce.

But Rolls-Royce is one of those under--

Exactly.

That is a Rolls-Royce, what?

A Rolls-Royce is that car underneath,

right?

Yeah.

Same car.

So what is the differentiating factor about it?

Is it gonna be actually that much more luxurious?

I'm seeing the rear tail look to be different

from--

Oh, let me find you that.

And the interior is completely different.

The wheels on the previous photo,

they look a little bit like the M4 competition wheels.

They do.

But they look like when people put like 17

inch fake versions on like a 330 C.I.

Yeah.

Where they just shouldn't quite be on that car.

The interior as well as you can get out of

that is--

All right, one thing at a time.

Look at the footwell up for me and all the

lighting options, thank you very much.

So here is the rear, the rear is now a cross-eyed.

Oh my God.

It's a cross-eyed fish.

I don't understand car designers at the minute.

Did you think you ever did?

Do you not look at that and go that little--

That's definitely bad.

That steering wheels, that is pony.

I do not like that at all, that's just true.

And for all your listeners who may not--

It's like someone has turned your steering

wheel to the left and then redesigned it in situ.

That's exactly it.

The spokes are on the side and the top and

bottom are on the left, right?

The rest of the interior, I don't know,

it's just so--

It's just so much--

There's just so much--

There's so much--

There's so much-- I quite like the bar along

the--

The sort of Prius spec.

That's Prius, yeah.

Yeah, the Prius spec thing along the front,

I don't mind that.

It's kind of an interesting design feature,

but then you've got, you've already got a

shit ton of screens, so why do we need any of that?

Just because it looks different doesn't make

it look good.

The sooner screens die, the better.

Now, I'd like to implement a new part of when

we look at new cars, and it's an L or a dub.

L or a dub.

L, L.

It's

not like a massive L.

Do you know what?

Over the previous generation,

I don't know much about them.

I don't mind that rear, that actually that much.

I think that with a certain spec could be

okay, but overall there's a car L for me.

Inside, I'm sure it's lovely and comfortable

and whatever, but--

Yeah.

Next, Benjamin on News.

We cut to that, Ben saw the Corvette on

screen and we looked at each other.

Oh, Ben, should we tell him?

No, he shouldn't tell him.

No, let's not tell him.

No, tell me.

No, tell me.

No, tell me, tell me.

I'm not doing the podcast, you tell me.

Yeah, you are.

So anyway--

No, it is a new spiker coming.

Yeah, so that's all I want to talk about.

So there is a new spiker, which is from your motherland.

In the show, so there was a man who started,

the Ben's on his phone, he's trying to research now.

You won't trust me, you won't find him what

you're looking for.

The man who revived spiker, the spiker that

you're thinking of, the one from the early

2000s, was a man called Victor Muller.

He restarted the spiker or gained the IP to

start car production.

There were then something like three or four

bankruptcies along the way.

Then he became the CEO of Saab as that went

into bankrupt.

There's a hole up and down.

Then he got sued because he was doing insider

trading, he got arrested, all sorts of stuff.

He has now gained the right,

the full intellectual property right to the

spiker name and to produce cars.

And he's basically, he's stood on business.

He's posted a video saying, you're late,

really for this.

But we're revealing a car.

And where is he revealing that car?

Well, there's this car show,

let me see what it's called.

It's Monterey Car Week, something that

happens later in the year.

They're going to reveal the car,

but we have worries.

We saw this video and I watched it and I

thought, you know what, this was all very

powerful and very exciting.

And I scroll to the last post,

but the post beforehand, and it was like,

yeah, flashing badges, blah,

blah, blah, because they're going to call it

C8, I think.

I think C8's something, I can't remember.

It's sort of reviving, there are pictures of this car.

I think they did, there were rough designs of

it and an actual physical car,

C8, something like that.

Anyway, but the sort of promo image before,

which was just showing flashes of badges and stuff.

Prelly at all.

Yes.

It doesn't roll off the tongue.

Maybe if it had like turbine sounds over it,

like jet types, but it sounded electric.

If the new Spyco is electric,

well and truly, don't bother.

That cannot be an electric car.

But now I wonder, I wonder if their thought

is, if you don't know, Spyco originally used

the Audi engines back in the day.

I wonder if their thought is,

well, the Audi engine anyway,

and see people seem to buy them.

They're just buying them for the design and the interior.

But in reality, no, no, no.

People are now.

People can take a modern Audi and take the

four leads or something.

Yeah.

But I'm hoping, I'm hoping and I'm praying.

So maybe I have to take, I'm assuming they're

new and they're, if there is an engine,

they're probably going to be taking it from somewhere.

If they're doing a full on TVR and they're

going, now, I have my car own engine.

I don't think you're going to be around for a long time.

No, that's going to be fair.

I'm seeing them actually, well,

hopefully see them come back.

I think it's the quail.

It is, yeah, supposedly it's the quail at the

quail where we will, it's a great event.

And we've also made no progress on that.

So if anyone would like us to go,

please do let us know.

If you're from Spiker, we could do that.

I'll put on an accent all weekend,

because we all can.

They'll be like us.

Our friends at DK Engineering,

yeah.

Best mates have any links or.

Best mates, you mate.

Surely JK, you're listening.

JK, if you are listening, aren't you?

I'll tell you where, like, the money's

secretly stashed in the glardo.

When I left it, I forgot about that.

Did you take the Acon CD out?

I did.

Okay, because that'd be quite funny if JK.

Did I?

Yes, I did.

No, I did.

I did.

The Acon CD I did take out.

There is, I have recently realized I am

missing a Wu-Tang CD that I was...

They were the only two CDs I had before I put

a good head unit into this.

Now, we have to have JK on the podcast so

that he can confirm, whether when he got in

the car, Wu-Tang Clan was black.

I have to check if I have left my smack that

CD in the garden.

Just give me his address.

It's one of those weird sales tactics where

they leave something behind so they can go

back and see how they can make an offer.

Just give us a chance.

Just come on.

Just give us a chance.

JK would be amazing though, I guess.

There's so much to talk, so much to catch up on.

I think you enjoy it.

Well, also, I think it's happening.

I put that out into the ether like you young

folks say about what such.

What's it called and what such?

A manifesting.

That's the word, whoever he is.

Also, I would like him on the podcast from a real big.

That's the one.

On your time, will come to wherever you want

us to go.

Yeah, I don't want to bring JK here.

No, I agree.

JK doesn't have to-- Oh, RS6.

No, don't worry about that, JK.

He doesn't have to sit on our smelly sofa,

which do actually really smell.

He doesn't have to do any of that.

We can come to him.

No problems.

I think we'd be-- Speak for yourself.

Our souls are similar.

Yeah.

We share different budgets.

And we know Richard Porter, who himself music mogul.

So we have connections in the music band.

And a drug fiend.

No, Richard Porter, the drug dealer.

And we have-- Richard Porter,

listen to this.

Hey.

That's me and so.

And we have music credits, don't we?

Officially.

We do, officially.

On Christmas at night, on a band--

On a band camp.

We-- I don't know if there's a latest Jim

Iraquai song, but do we have more songs in

2026 than Jim Iraquai?

Well, there is an album coming.

So I don't know if that's this year or next.

Also, I'm your Cosmic Girl.

I'm excited for it.

I'm the queen podcast.

I'm out of terms.

I explained Cosmic Girl to my girlfriend,

actually.

about the fact that that is--

Did you know?

It's about Diablo, not about a woman.

Yeah.

Is it?

Yes.

Right.

That's why he drives one in the mirror.

Well, it was an excuse, I believe.

It's that his girlfriend at the time and

being some sort of rock star,

I'm sure he had some unbelievable girlfriend

basically said, "Is that a song about me?"

Yeah.

And he went, "No, no.

It's actually about my Diablo."

Which is fair.

I think it would have been an essay for--

It was the year.

Because there were two.

One got crashed and the other one had to be filmed.

But you can find out more about that story.

Well, he'll tell us the story,

if won't he?

Yes.

We'll all use this flashback.

Oh, wow.

We just have J.K.

on the podcast.

Anyway, next piece of noose.

Otherwise, we're going to dress Ben up as J.K.

Yeah.

He'll be in a hat

46:13 Ferrari F80 and JK's Glado

slowly fading out.

He'll just slide off a cat.

We're going to go in.

Ferrari F80 from New Benjamin with no moustache.

He and him, I think, made earlier.

Here's him with stash.

There he has him.

Quite Italian, yeah.

For context, the Ferrari F80,

the flagship's a little bit Welsh in there.

Nice.

What is one worse, a 80?

F80.

Yeah.

So anyway, this is the Ferrari F80.

Ferrari F80 is...

Is it a flagship?

Yeah, it's their big boy anniversary.

It's him.

So there's now the big six.

Big six, I guess.

It's the big F, which is not how Africa works.

They don't just add new animals each year,

not how that works to the big five.

This is their flagship car.

And their current design language,

is let's take a pretty okay looking car and

just add a monobrow to it.

If you moustache.

And a lot of people don't like it,

a lot of people do like it, but somebody in

Monaco has been delivered their F8C in red,

bright red, JK.

Yeah, okay.

I don't know if you're going to tell me who it was.

I was going to tell you, supposedly what I

heard is that it was delivered with a moustache.

Yes, apparently they wouldn't remove it.

And then they, he sent it back to Maranello,

supposedly, not to a local body shop.

So back to Maranello afterwards,

and they then un-moustached it.

They got the razor out and went,

and basically they've taken this moustache

off and it looks a million times better.

Look at that guy.

I agree to an extent.

But from this angle, like at glance,

it looks like a noble.

No, that's my thought.

Whereas the moustache is kind of like a

defining feature of the FAA.

No, that's my thought.

I think this is, no, I don't feel that about

the M3M4, but it's going to be like the M3M4 thing.

Well, after a year or two people go,

oh no, that's just a recognizable Ferrari trade now.

And I'll know this as Ferrari.

But I don't mind it without,

but I also don't mind it with.

I was listening to Smee talk about this

somewhere, somewhere on the internet,

but he's talking about Ferrari's design language.

And I don't know if I agree or not,

because I don't like any of,

I haven't liked modern Ferrari stuff for

probably the last 10 years or so.

There's been a handful in there,

if that.

But for the most part, I don't like their

overall language, but is that they always change.

Every generation, there is a 360 F430,

maybe it's a bit less, but there is always a

noticeable thing, and they're very good at

going, "No, this is it."

We know what's, we future proof everything.

We know that in 10, 15, 20 years,

people are gonna look at that and go,

"No, that was actually a good design."

Because we did something different.

The people at the moment that are not going

on, that's boring, they're not probably not

the ones buying it anyway.

But in 15, 20 years, they go,

"You know what, actually?"

It's a bit like the Chris Bangler,

BMW designs were probably at the time,

and even probably like 10 years afterwards,

everyone thought, "That's ugly."

And now people look at a six-year series or

the E60 and go, "You know what,

that's possibly one of the best BMW modern BMW designs."

360, Ferrari and 550 got a lot of stick when

it came out.

Now granted, going from the 355 to 360

objectively for me, 355 is one of the best

looking for ones ever, the 360 is not.

But it's not a bad looking thing,

by any means.

It's a really lovely shape, but it's because

it's different.

But then I don't think, I think we'll think

that about some of those BMWs.

I don't think in 10 years I'll look back and

go, I was wrong, and I think I'll look back

and go, because they're just horrible.

But I think Ferrari are not as extreme as

some of that.

But I don't think that's a bad looking car by

any stretch of the imagination.

My main gripe isn't the look,

because it's the fact that it has a V6.

Yeah.

Do you remember when I think this would have

been just around 2020, I think we were at car

throttle, Mercedes, there were the leaked

images of the new CLA and A45 MG.

And I thought, I remember saying it in the

office to you, that's one of the worst

looking cars I've ever seen in my life.

It's horrible.

And that one I see one now, I'm like,

I don't like it, but I don't dislike it.

But in comparison to the one before it,

yeah, the one before it's so dated,

an original A45 is a horrible dated looking

thing, like an M135i to an M140.

They're vastly improved.

The thing on the BMW grills that I always

think of, and to be fair, it's been more of

an Audi thing before, but that like mid

2000s, or like the 2000s, basically in 2010s,

where Audi just went, right,

everything's got a massive grille.

Yeah.

Q7, the AA, and they got, there were some

people that had like, gave it stick because

they're like, why this grille's so big?

They don't need to be that big.

Like they were considerably bigger than

they'd ever been before, but none cares.

That is that, that generation around is

defined by that grille.

Yeah.

Like the AA grille was massive,

but it's iconic.

Yeah.

Like that, that is to me, that is what an Audi is.

So I know that there will be plenty of cars

we probably rinse on this podcast that will

look back on in 10, 15 years and go,

do you know what?

It's not actually that bad, but for the most

part, most modern cars, it's not necessarily the looks.

It's always like that, it's bad out of V12 in it.

Oh, yeah.

That was an evolution of what was in the,

like, they sell a V12.

Yeah.

That's why I think it's so wrong.

You have, you cannot have your flagship car.

I get it, it's meant to relate to the

motorsport, but there's boring.

Not cares about that.

Your flagship car doesn't have your flagship

engine in it.

Yeah.

Which is wrong.

I'd really like to see someone,

I look crashed one come up and someone's

taking V12 in it.

Yeah.

It'd be so cool.

'Cause also, I think it was actually Schmoo's

car as well, but when we were at Donnington,

yeah, Donnington, and we saw the,

what is that called, the 12-cylindery.

Yeah.

The noise that thing makes for like a span of

car as well, like the intake noise.

And now imagine that in a crazy,

in the back, and with some more spicy pipes in it.

Just lovely.

Let's come on Ferrari.

Look, if you want ideas, we're right here.

Hello mate.

52:00 Porsche Selling Stake in Bugatti

Hello.

Driver San Francisco is playing on the TV.

And the first time we minimized it was a

Corvette this time, LP64.

64.

Only game with a drivable Alfa159.

True.

There you go.

There's a completely useless fact.

Rockets, they didn't sell them for that.

Porsche has sold their steak in a rimac baguette.

Right, so I've been thinking for the last few

days, how are you going to digest this in the podcast?

I think you're going to say how you break it

to the cream is that you're the one that

bought the steak.

I wasn't meant to disclose that just yet.

But I have done that.

Okay.

No, so for many years, VW Group have owned

part of Bugatti.

Bugatti were invested in or bought by partly

by Porsche, a subsidiary of VW Group

alongside rimac, the hyper car people,

and they established

Bugatti rimac, right?

Right.

Essentially, rimac owned the majority of

this, just a 50% of the business,

and then Volkswagen, sorry, Porsche owned

like 45% or something.

Long story short, Porsche out.

Porsche have had quite a lot of money issues

because they're making electric cars,

and telling the people they're making more electric cars.

And people go, "I do not want this."

And now Porsche goes, "Cool,

we'll be making more electric cars."

You must buy eight Taycans first.

Yeah, so because of that, I think they,

I don't know, the speculation is that they

need some money, and also I don't think they

really want part of this.

So they have sold their stake in Bugatti.

So it ends their--

Porsche sell stake.

The context they had made that exact same

joke when we were playing the podcast.

And he said he'd do it for that podcast.

That'd be a boring stake as well.

Yeah, just a flat stake.

What can I say with me?

Flats, flat iron, flat iron.

They put all the flavor at one end.

(laughing)

Season one end of it.

And then you say you'd like another and they

bring you a slightly different,

but the same one.

So as far as my word--

If it's ribeye, fill it, they're all the same.

Everything's the same.

This one's a verb, I've got to take the top of it.

So as far as my word, this now means that the

VW's involvement in Bugatti is now over.

Now, it's now Rimmack and Bugatti,

I believe Porsche sold their steak to a

venture capital firm, it's not a car maker.

Yes, correct.

Now the thing I want to know is how will this

affect the trout population?

How will this affect the parts inside?

Because as we know, a certain man whose arms

are very not weak has found,

while going through the car,

we knew that there was lots of Volkswagen and

Audi cars, even in the Veyron.

Even in the Veyron, there were lots of parts

that were used from out-vagged cars.

My Armstrong stuff has found that the airbags

are from an A3.

Was it the starter motors from a 1.9 PD?

Yeah.

Will they have access to this now?

But they still--

Can they buy from them?

Yeah, I don't know if

there's any ownership there.

I don't think there is as far

away.

I don't think so.

Where it's just like, there is a partnership

where you go, we supply your engines.

Yeah, I mean, car manufacturers have been

using other parts for years.

As we found out, the Volkswagen Corrado

shares mirrors with the McLaren F1,

the TVR Tuscan, the Lamborghini Diablo and

the something else I can't roll,

it was out of the TVR Serbera.

What fire cell going on with the Volkswagen

factory or something?

They went, "Oh, we've made too many of these."

Roll up, roll up.

We got mirrors.

Who wants the mirrors?

Left, right.

What do you want?

We've got them all.

So it's not weird to sell parts to

manufacturers to build cars,

but more so that loads of things especially

because it's things like, I guess in that,

the Tourbillon, is it?

The, this guy.

Lots of the parts, obviously most of it's bespoke.

Lots of the main, the sort of moving

mechanical bits, but airbags,

all of those little bits away where you

suddenly have to go and I doubt they'd make

it themselves, but does that then suddenly

get very, very expensive?

Yeah.

But this is my next, next time I was going to

say is that, okay, so you split up.

Breakups happened, so.

You and the S2000, done.

Yeah.

I don't have much bigger scale,

that really threw me.

Just like crying.

Who's my theory of acting in that situation?

You only have to think the S2000.

I'm very pleased to see you go.

I think I'm a theory of acting on this,

doesn't you?

I need to say that.

It's VW.

Carry on, that's how cool you think you are.

Yeah, that's how I thought you'd go for it.

Well, yes, so do you.

Yeah, great.

Nice try.

This car is already developed,

right?

Or they are currently in like the late stages

of testing, right?

So in theory, it's got a lot of VW bits,

isn't it?

And I work.

Well, that's a look, an agreement will have

already been put in place.

So that they will probably go throughout the

life of that car, but it's more for the

development of the next ones.

That's fine, you just do that themselves.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

So they've made knocking up some airbags from scratch.

I wonder, do you think Kearney said use

anything from other cars?

I think they have.

But there will be lots of things that are

bought from, not wholesalers,

but like from Takata, the airbag manufacturer

they will say.

I express.

That's the one exactly.

Christian goes, right, I need 100 airbags and

they go in a mortar 1000.

Could be teams.

Oh, for God's sake.

I left my Costco car at home,

can I just?

What's the lead time they go for?

Five months, mate, straight or loose.

I've got 10,000 track rolled ends,

some sweet baby raised barbecue sauce,

cookies and some AMG engine.

There's some plastic utensils for the kitchen.

That's Costco.

But I always think, always feels like they're

just making everything.

Yeah.

Obviously we looked at that Veyron,

obviously Veyron's much older car now,

but we looked at the Veyron that had the

loads of bits open so you could see it,

and it's full.

Things like track rolled ends.

Track rolled ends were, I don't know why I

just would have thought it would have had its

own one for whatever reason,

but it was just the same as what you'd get in

a, like an A6 or something.

From what I found, it was a Mark IV Golf

track rolled end, the one that we saw.

Yeah.

I did a little bit of research there you go there.

There's the baron there.

Obviously a load of it's bespoke,

but yeah, it'd be interesting to see what

they do with that.

I assume they would have to supply some bits

from somewhere.

Just completely like all of its parts been.

Like, yeah, no, this is just a passat shock

absorber, like just chuck it in,

it'll be fine, they won't know.

Yeah, I mean, there's always a room about the

headlights being passat, I don't think.

Yeah, they aren't the same, I think some of

the bases and some of the bits were taken

from them, but other than that,

no.

Yeah, the bulbs are the same,

isn't they?

We don't, your car doesn't come out thunder,

Bugatti Veroon, I just searched out a passat,

obviously.

It's an H7, cheers.

What's my next piece of Benjamin,

I'm hoping you've come prepared for this one.

This one says the lowest selling cars of

2026, Q1, this feels like a big update from Ben.

Here we go, Q1.

Now, this is, I will preface this.

Ben's been on company's house,

I haven't.

This is in the US, I tried to find the UK and

I couldn't buy, there's a list.

Well, selling cars.

The lowest selling cars and my numbers.

Okay.

So far this year, I just thought it was interesting.

Is this for us to guess?

I'm going to give you the models and you need

to guess how many cars are sold.

Oh, okay, 'cause I reckon already,

I reckon after Julia's on there,

big time.

59:12 Lowest Selling Cars of 2026 Q1

This is in the US.

Yeah, they sold them there.

Okay, Audi A8, how many units we sold?

In Q1, three months.

Eight.

Across the whole of America.

Yeah, whole of America.

That's big.

Eight, 600.

Okay, 201.

Okay.

So not a lot.

So that's tough.

I was telling you know what,

my goal was eight, so they're smashing.

50 states, that's tough.

That's 40th state, not very good.

And you are saying that one thing is mostly

cows, doesn't it?

No one's doing business, are they?

No, famously.

No one's doing proper business,

no more.

Businessmen are not existing in America.

Lexus LS.

No, I think that's actually better.

Okay.

I'm gonna say that's 2000.

That is 443.

143.

Oh God.

Hold on a minute.

Come on, man.

That's like Lexus is America,

America, what?

Lexus is big in America.

That should be--

LS is like a big saloon.

That's a luxury export to the US,

isn't it?

A luxury upper-sized mid saloon fixed with sedan.

So you have to 500E.

Oh no.

500E, so is single figures.

But you gotta think like there's New York,

LA, or 90.

Yeah, a hundred and two.

68.

Oh no.

Also rare, sort them, like a bit of garage.

500E.

I think it's a hydrogen ball.

Oh, see now, I forget that they even sold

those here sometimes.

And I see one in London.

James, man.

I'm gonna say like 14.

They still sell them?

Yeah, 563.

63.

Oh, okay, good job, man.

(laughs) Good job, Toyota, Toyota seeing the

sales figures come in.

Yes!

63, that's more.

That's 62 more than we thought.

That's more than all of Europe.

Yeah, one of those brass car.

Audi Etron GT.

Oh, no.

So that's an electric tie cam competitor.

400, not 4, few.

Do you know what, seven?

Since you said that, I cannot remember the

last time I saw them on

the roads here.

And I feel like I remember seeing a few of

them.

72?

Yeah, 447.

63.

Oh, God!

Also, the amount of R&D that went into those

cars, into the tie cam and the,

and for that, that has to be one of the

biggest car flops in the last 10 years.

There are two more on my list,

about Audi's.

Audi Q6 Etron Sportback, so the,

sort of, coopail of SUV.

It's creepy guy.

9.

1, 10.

It is 9.

It is 9.

And finally, the Audi Q4 Etron,

so similar sort of thing, but it's an actual

SUV shape notch.

17.

11, 6.

Oh, man!

What's the thing that ever does?

And there are ones on there that I didn't,

I didn't mention.

There is, there's a Toyota CHR,

13 units.

There's a Genesis GV60, 117 units.

There's a Genesis GV60, 117 units.

Jeep Wagonair S, 175 units.

Most of them are electric cars.

So is that not telling you we're back?

Well, but that's, you know, that is America.

That is like walking into an entire festival

of vegans and going, "I got sausages,

I want sausages."

You're not gonna sell many, brother.

Of course you're stoke selling it,

yeah.

It's not gonna work.

You play to the dealer.

But isn't that mad?

I thought the, like, the Genesis one I get

and I get a couple of other ones,

but the, the Audi's.

That's crazy.

Etron GT, even like a Taycan,

they're not selling that well,

in more than nine.

Crazy 63 I ever was.

That's wild.

Well, bad, tough times for America.

Bad day to be a battery, isn't it?

Ben, you've got a rant here.

I can't say what you've written.

Yeah, they're there.

It's about the M4.

And what sort of people are on the--

I want to talk story about this morning.

And for those that don't know what the M4 is.

M4 is a major UK motorway that stretches all

the way from around that swansy,

technically it's Port Talbot.

Yeah, no, it's swansy.

It's further than the swansy.

It's not swansy.

It's swansy.

It's literally been to the M4.

It's swansy.

It's further than the swansy.

It's swansy.

It's not, it's further than the swansy.

It's swansy.

It's swansy.

It's swansy.

It's swansy.

You go into Eros, it goes for beginning and end.

You've got your Port Talbot and you go over

that bit, that big bridge bit with charcoal.

Yeah, well how about you have a look at that big whopper.

There's the M4 past swansy.

Yeah.

That's where it ends.

It goes up onto it.

Oh, but that's not really past swansy.

So it just past swansy.

It just past swansy, yeah.

It just on the M4 past swansy.

Hold that LB.

Zoom out.

The last name wrote from there.

It becomes the A48 at that roundabout there.

But that is basically...

It's

pretty much swansy.

Anyway, it stretches from just past swansy by

about a mile.

Yeah, it was.

Little bit past swansy.

All the way to the M25 in London.

Very big.

Just past it.

Actually, it was in London before.

Yeah.

It is, yeah.

Great.

I know nothing.

Anyway, I use this to commute to work.

Lost the time.

I've got him in the mood, he's angry now,

he's ready to go.

I drove that road last Tuesday.

Okay.

Okay.

That's the end of the story.

This is my first day, I arrived at work and

it was done.

No, I got stuck in, I got the sign saying our

delay, delay, delay.

Do you want to know what the delay was?

What was it?

And I sat there for an hour.

Okay.

What time I get to work?

Probably half 10 at 11 o'clock?

Yeah, you were late.

Do you want to know what the delay was?

We moved from three lanes to two.

You can't nobody could have...

We're talking stand still traffic.

Ben, I don't think you understand.

There are things you can predict and there

are things you can't.

I mean, listen, it was a tough one.

What was it for?

Why did you go to two?

Was it just random?

Was it a character building exercise?

Off of Junction 13, Newbury.

Hello, mate.

That's the one.

What about that?

Is that Junction 13?

Sure, why not?

Slippered was close.

You couldn't get off there.

Why?

I believe there was a car, a car fire,

not any more, but had happened.

I think they had to do emergency redo the road.

That's Slippered.

Wow.

They've redo the road.

Like, see it look pretty mash up.

Anyway.

Crazy.

It looked fine, but you're going from three

lanes to two, there was not hours worth to

lay for that.

Anyway, so I was pretty annoyed then.

This morning, we're six days later.

Sorry, may I interrupt quickly?

Please.

When it came time to go from three lanes to

where were you in that lane?

So, were you emergency?

We were actually merging to the slow lane,

or the inside lane.

Correct.

The inside lane was the one that was shut.

Right, but that lane was moving the quickest.

Okay, so where were you in the far left?

Yes.

And do you manage to merge into the next lane

without causing a 74 car power?

So what I did was I

waited for the obstacle to appear.

Right.

And then I merged away from it.

Okay, then the person in front that you went

behind of, he didn't crash.

No.

And then the one behind you that let you in,

he didn't crash.

No, no.

That's amazing.

And you know what the system that worked

really well was, is that one car let one car in.

Oh, and then the next one went.

So you let your guy in, and then you'll have

a handle that's a guy in it.

I think it's much safer just to get in line.

I was thinking maybe about why I got to sort

of chipping them.

I was gonna start my own.

You should, I should really get in line.

And then when, you know, the normal people,

but for this exercise, we'll call them the

idiots who are driving the other lane,

try and come in.

You don't let them in.

No.

You're just gonna keep sailing past.

I don't want us to move smoothly.

No.

I quite like being stopped actually.

It gives me time to think about nothing.

Or I'm gonna let seven people at once go.

I'm gonna stop my lane.

Yes.

We're just gonna let them all flow.

Yeah, and that's it.

But to the point where then now I can't ever

continue 'cause now they're taking advantage of me.

Yeah, no, yeah.

Yeah.

Anyways, that happened.

Anyway, annoying.

This morning, I'm having a lovely morning.

Sure, the sun was shining, got my sunglasses

on, I'm listening to some good tunes.

Jamaica, perhaps.

Wasn't.

No, some good tunes.

Craig, David, no.

It wasn't Craig, David.

Peter Fittis, no, who was it?

Peter Fittis doesn't make me sick.

What's he called?

Blubby Rick Astley.

No.

Oh, Pete Strondrain.

Thanks for having me.

So, I list the Peter Andre, driving along.

Yeah.

Actually, wasn't.

And suddenly, I get to a very similar location.

It's between memory sources

and junction 13.

I was like, no.

So, I'm new real detail about it.

Not like this again.

I'm not doing this again.

And we start slow down.

Not stand still, but we're crawling.

And I was like, okay, it must be a big thing.

So, you're outside the car crawling.

I was like, okay.

Merging time.

Maybe there's another issue.

Okay, what's happened here?

What happened?

What happened?

What happened?

Is it that the road has to be redone again?

Nope.

Nope.

On the other side of the road.

Yeah.

That was quite a bad crash.

Oh, okay.

Quite a bad crash.

And you must stop.

And it, I'm talking, we slowed down to a stop

on my side of the road.

Great.

Because people were looking.

No, of course.

Well, they have to, because...

I'm not even talking, there was nothing.

Well.

Not a

thing.

Are you that could bleep this?

Are you in your head?

What is wrong with you?

Do you feel like you went from 70 miles an

hour down to five miles an hour to a man in

having a fatal car crash?

Now, what you don't know is that everyone in

front of you is a local journalist,

and they have to get their story.

Or a panic.

Yeah, they're all there.

They have to do their job.

I was baffled.

I drove past, and there was not a single

thing on our side, they had just stopped.

And we're talking three lanes of gridlock

traffic because of you.

You should take your car and shove it where

the sun doesn't shine.

Shove it in a perfectly safe car.

And then don't touch anyone.

Don't ever go near it.

No, that is, I think, is my biggest pet peeve.

It comes just in, well, no, not just in front.

Far, far in front of people that do not merge

at speed on the motorway.

But I wish you nothing but the worst.

I'd like to suggest a new technology.

Yeah.

To add to Gantries.

Now, it means that people don't get punished

in between Gantries, but it's a bit like a speed camera.

Okay.

But you're not getting away from this one

because it knows there's other cameras,

just trust me.

They all speak through

They all speak and there's people around.

It's a user-based system.

You can report people for it.

Wait.

Instead of a speed camera, it's a clown camera.

No, it's a gun.

Okay.

Well, that is something, you know,

that exists.

What?

We're just guns.

Yeah, no, guns exist, but we've never seen

them on Gantries before.

Okay.

But there'd be one, I'm not killing anyone.

I don't want to kill anyone.

It would be like a warning shot.

(laughs)

Like a bad person.

I don't think that would cause delays.

Yeah, that would.

But it'd be like if you've been a melt,

if you've slowed down something like that,

or you're in the middle lane,

or you're doing, even if you're a circuit

driver, perhaps.

Right.

Just a warning shot.

Okay.

All right, maybe we'll start with paintballs.

Paintballs would be good.

Paintballs would be good.

Can't go for the windscreen.

That would be tough.

Just imagine you're being a bit of a bellend

and then just a bullet hole in the back window.

Now, what I like, how about this?

Gantries, as we have them right now,

they have information in the UK displayed up on Mirth.

60, 50, what I would like is name and shame.

I want their number plate and then just some

form of derogatory term.

Okay, another address.

So it would just say S200 BNN,

Whopper.

Spundly.

So everyone going down the road,

you're in your group together.

You will see, right, that's that clown that's

been messing around.

If you try and tell that driver you're being

a penis, they go, eh, yeah.

If the government, if there's government

mandated ridiculing, everyone around goes,

see, you could make it like Waze,

like where, you know, you can report the road

has fallen away or whatever it is you've done

or, and you just go bad driver and it just,

I don't know how it works with like typing in

another plate while driving.

Not for you.

Not ideal.

Maybe it's hooked up to an external camera system.

We've all got NPR.

What's got a dash can.

But punishment will come to these people.

And it will be swift.

Yeah, and it, you won't get away.

You're not getting away with it for long.

I'm like you're driving.

It will be swift.

Look, you're a bad person.

Yeah, I heard.

Bad person.

'Cause you're ruining everyone else's day.

And so what?

So you can look at a dying human being on the

side of the road.

What is wrong with that?

You're always dying.

You're shellfish.

Look, I didn't see.

Oh, there you go, yeah.

Interesting.

The entire other side of the road.

They almost gave himself away there.

No, what we'll say is I went past.

Everyone else has slipped out.

As I went past.

Why not?

It was so bad.

While you're in there.

As I went past and we suddenly sped up

against a 70 miles an hour.

And they were going in the same direction as me.

Oh, that's not great.

That's not how the motor works.

But it was so bad that the police had gone,

okay, this road has shut for hours.

That's tough one.

Turn around and line up and we're going to

take you to the motorway.

So that's a bad crash.

I don't know what happened, but why are you

saying I have to look at that?

What is wrong with you?

Just go to work.

Yeah, it's a bit, it's not very nice,

is it?

No, we're not the zoo here, guys.

Oh, look, dead people.

Great.

What are you, morbid?

Jesus Christ, it'll work.

Oh, Monday morning, eight a.m.

people.

It was amazing.

We enjoyed that.

Yeah, sorry, just make your way to work and

stop being a silly sausage.

There was an alpha one, five,

nine on the screen.

Was there, as a TI as well, I believe.

Next up, we have organ donor.

Is that about managed bikes?

Nah, that is actually about the hurricane

that we talked about a week or two ago.

At this point, a lot of people were quickly

to comment that the reason, part of the

reason it has such high mileage is because it

is used for organ donor and blood transplants.

So it races around Italy, getting yo,

getting yo, moving.

I've got to get hot to this old man flashing

mites, also just kind of morbid as,

again, where you go, is it an organ donor?

Okay, so it's a bit sad, like,

you know, he's sort of rushed,

there's something serious he's going on,

but he goes, that does mean I can take the hurricane.

He's got someones, he's just banging gears

with a smile on his face.

He gets there, they go, "Where's the heart?"

He's left that back to the other hospital,

he goes, "Ah, I'll have to go back,

I'll pop back quickly."

Or a no, literally, it must be in the front.

Oh God, they must be cooled or something.

Crazy, I must have some sort of--

That must be specially adapted for that,

but that's cool.

I really like that, I'd like to see it.

Sorry, that was Ben sipping water in the background.

Sorry, crazy noise.

Like some kind of--

A little water feature.

A drink of advert.

Was that loud?

Very loud.

Was it loud?

I think everyone had it.

Right, before we get into a little game,

that will end up, the penultimate feature of

this podcast will be a one of the week.

Now, Ben, you've put

1:13:22 One of the Week - TT VR6

this in, so I'm gonna assume you've got

something lined up.

I already said it.

Oh, you already said it.

It was a TT VR6.

That's okay.

And then I was looking at them the other night.

Okay, mark one, TT VR6 or TT whatever the

hell it is.

Now, did we talk, we didn't talk about much

at, oh, talking is a hard thing for me.

Yeah, which struggles.

At Shedfair, at Food and Fuel,

you saw the C6 Corvette again.

Did it really like that feeling?

Oh, because that's basically,

every time we do a one of the week,

that's what you're saying.

It's just the best.

I had a child like reaction to it,

Patrick film.

Congratulations.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, first one.

No, I got, I got, yeah, yeah,

I thought that.

You got, yeah, but so--

You saw it, you thought.

I was there, I was there when you felt it.

I think it was a real that Patrick posted of

my reaction to it, and it is,

it is--

So you could see yourself in one of those.

Oh, now William, you're coming off the back

of a full of the, so sorry, you're high on

the Mercilago, but surely there's

still, there's still got me something deep in there.

No, of course there are still itches.

to be scratched and what such.

A recent flame that has been reignited,

that's always been there to be fair,

is the clear trophy, because I've caught wind

of the fact that Alex might want to get rid

of his, and it needs a few little bits,

and it could be had for a bajan.

I just think that's a really cool car.

The problem is, it is basically getting on

for 10 grand for a Clio, but it's never gonna

lose any value, and it's the only way to get

one in that color, you've got the cool wing,

and I just think they're so,

so cool.

Is it 10 grand?

I don't think that one necessarily is worth

that, but it could be, basically.

It needs like, there's things that have those

special sax dampers, they need rebuilding

that can cost up to 1,000 pounds,

basically, belts as you're aware,

could cost 1,000 pounds, and I don't know if

I wanna ever do it ever again on a Renault.

But they're just very, very cool,

but again, is it just better to take your 8.9 grand?

Please, bend your mind.

For the listeners sake.

I'm trying to go as far away from the mic as possible.

Stop it.

We're like 15 minutes away from the end of the podcast.

All we have to do is wait.

Come on, Benjamin.

Absolutely.

Brother just suckling water back there.

I'm so thirsty.

Sorry, please carry me with the thought before.

Let's call it 9 grand, 8 grand,

something like that.

You could really build a lovely Clio for that money.

Oh, yeah.

Like, nice, but I think actually,

I'm coming away from having a track car type

Clio, just having it relatively standard,

couple of noise mods, and just using it as a road car.

I think I've missed out on doing that on both

of my recent ones.

The yellow car was kind of getting towards

that, but it didn't have back seats,

so I just want, I need a Clio that I can feel

content with.

It was, and it drives nicely.

And I used it, and also, I know it's not

gonna tank in value.

But at the same time, I know you,

and you'll buy it like that.

You'll go, keep it stock, and then you'll go,

let me just try a little wheel.

'Cause I like seeing my blue car at the end

event, and I do like that in color,

the racing blue, but a trophy's just got,

it's got that extra, and, you know,

je ne sais par, as they say,

they've tried.

We'll do a proper talk about it at some

point, but for, Clio Trophy is the cheat code

for getting respect in the car community.

At Bistas-Gramble, there was,

I think it was, bring a trailer UK had

launched, and they had a sea of exotic cars,

550 Barchetta, there was all sorts of spicy

things around.

Meanwhile, a Clio Trophy, so,

out in the middle, everyone taking photos of

it, everyone talking about the car,

that's a Renault Clio.

If you pull up in a normal 182,

no one cares.

Heath Ledger style.

But say Clio Trophy, and everyone loses their mind.

A little old Clio.

But it's so weird, but everyone goes,

"I'll trophy."

Yeah, trophy.

It's a bloody set of dampers and some seats,

man.

Yeah, no, realistically now,

and also the dampers, they're good,

but better, there are better dampers now.

But the provenance of the thing is the sort

of, it's the heritage and whatever else.

And a lot of it is scene points,

isn't it?

Exactly.

If I turn up to that, compared to turning up

in the silver Clio, more people are gonna

wanna talk about that.

One of 500, that one.

Yeah.

But that's definitely on the list,

but I just don't know where a Clio fits in

what I have.

I have the Mégane, which if I make the Mégane

more track car, this makes sense as that,

but I feel like one hatchback is enough,

really.

Yeah, whatever that, if there was to be

something else that is added,

I think it would need to be real,

and possibly a V8.

Ooh, and what does that--

C63 really tickles my pickle.

Yum.

But in a state car, a state in

1:18:09 V8 State Car

particular, a state whacker diff in it.

As daily?

I don't.

Yeah.

But if I had the 159, I think,

'cause of how much

it's cost me.

And again, that car's just going great.

I'm

just gonna keep on using it.

And even if I do eventually buy something,

maybe a bit cooler, I'll probably just use

the 159 most of the time, 'cause it's cheap

to run and it doesn't owe me anything,

basically.

It is, that car is proper bangin' on it.

We won't get into the price that you will see that video.

That video should be out by now.

It's out, it should be out.

So you will know how cheap that car was.

So if anyone wants a real rough looking after

159, the black car that's sat in the pit

right now, it's on some odd-sized tires right now.

It looks haggard at the moment.

But yeah, my one of the week would be,

yeah, trophy or a, oh.

Okay, here we go, sports fans.

No, I can't have multiple.

Well, you can.

No, I can.

Give us a quick one.

I'm sorry, I smoke one still.

They still, I keep getting, I now keep

getting sent them.

I feel like I now have just many to pick from.

You've spoken into existence.

Someone sent me one for 10 grand the other

day that had, I think it was a little bit

rusty underneath and needed belts and whatever else.

And there's one going, there's just some that

go through auction at the moment.

There's one I think coming up at iconic,

it's like super low miles, estimates like 50K.

But I don't want any of that.

No, I want usable tumskins back.

I want a rude boy, bod modified one that's

got four inch horsepower.

You can do.

But just a look, because they look good like

that, but just when they're a little bit

lower and they've got, they just look angry.

I want a Mach 1 Focus RS that whenever you

take a video of it, it automatically has a

Snapchat caption over the top of it.

Things wicked fast.

It has some sort of scumbag caption.

Yeah, but that's what I think,

yeah, the third, 'cause I'm at three,

down to three cars now.

But that fourth slot would, I think,

would have to be something real,

real drive.

Your big boy, three cars.

The big boy, three cars.

And the pricing is quite

widespread.

Yeah.

We have everything from a 600 pound Alfa

Romeo to the Lamborghini Mercilago at

redacted prices that you can see online.

Crazy.

Mine is, you go to

business scramble, what are you saying?

You're seeing porsches.

Yep.

But more importantly, I'm seeing the sadness himself.

I'm just seeing lands here.

There he is.

And you know what, it never gets any easier.

It actually doesn't,

My car will forever be the car that got away flinting.

Flinting.

If you haven't listened to earlier episodes,

I, back when I was about 19,

a friend of mine wants to make like a buy an

investment car from Japan, do it up in UK and sell it.

I said, you pay the money, I'll do the doing up.

And we imported a Delta Evo to in Lord Blue from Japan.

And I absolutely fell in love with it.

It's the coolest hatchback on earth for me.

And I watch, I wake up every day and I go and

look at the prices of them, and I watch them

drifting further into the ether into the absolute.

You never know there, maybe there will be a

crash one though.

Yeah.

And then, you know, well, Ben keeps pumping

the numbers on them.

He's buying them all.

So I would just love a Dell 3.0.

It's something.

We talked about it before that the like the

Mercilago and the Glardo are only achievable

by finance, by leveraging money.

Yeah.

And the only reason I haven't done that yet

is because I like to modify cars and you buy

a car a certain value.

Like the Mercilago makes perfect sense.

There's not much to do to it.

I want to buy a delta and I want to forge it

and I want it to make city power and I want

to make city bluff noises.

You do that, you buy a delta at call it 70 at

what they're trading at now.

You do all those mods.

It's probably worth about 50 now.

You put another 20, 30 grind into it,

but it's worth less than you started,

which is why I can't do that.

And I don't think I keep, I look at them over

and over and I'm like, can I,

can I commit to financing all of those and

not touch it?

I don't think I could not modify it.

It's also standard.

Obviously you had driven your one completely

standard, but I would imagine that not

disappointing, but it's always like that when

cars get to that age, they're no longer kind

of in their heyday.

There's you've driven much faster stuff since

or much more impressive stuff since that

suddenly a car that's got like 200 to 220

horsepower, that isn't some like singing for

cylinder and that screaming feels a little

bit disappointing.

Yeah, it did feel, it did still feel quite

impressive for what it was, but I know me and

I know I go with 400.

Yeah.

Oh, it would be cool if I did this,

which is why I would struggle to not and it's

the same reason the other option,

which I will put the other one's a week,

is 550, obviously we talk about it most weeks.

But same thing, at this though,

I was not that I've been having second

thoughts, but I've been thinking a 599 is a bigger car.

It's a cooler car, it's a more like a 599 and

a Mercilago go together in terms of like

competition, but a 550 doesn't really,

550 is a Grand Touring car.

I looked around a 599 at Vista and I was

like, I do like that.

I love 599.

They're so cool.

And then that happened to just be a silver

550 tucked away in the corner.

I looked at it and I was like,

no, that's my guy.

By far, that's my guy.

You'd have a 599, well, I guess you could

have a brief affair with a 599 possibly.

But again, I don't think I would want to do

as much to a 599, I think that's something I

could own as it is and then go cool,

I'm done.

Whereas the 550, that's the forever car for me.

That's the, I buy it, I put it on silly

wheels, I do ITBs, I do standalone ECU,

I do everything too.

So again, not something I can really finance.

So there's one iconic auctioneers coming up,

which is--

Nice back as well.

Really goes back, Tour de France Blue,

I have a Coyo leather, which is my perfect spec.

But again, and it's 60,000 miles,

so it's not low mileage car.

But then again, I would, let's say,

go out and get finance to get it and then go,

I'm gonna destroy the price of this now.

You, let's say, would you buy that?

Obviously, you have that vision of what you

wanna do with the 550, but would you perhaps

get one that sets finance, however you wanna do it?

And just use it as it is.

You do like, 'cause you can still do a little

mod of it.

Yeah, exhaust a little bit.

And just use it as it is.

But until a project one came up,

and then, because you've got that car that

you're not gonna lose any money on anywhere,

you might even make some money on it.

Get rid of that one and then go and pick up

a, let's say the perfect project one comes up.

Picks up the phone and goes,

"Ella, Edwin, it's time."

We're back on.

It's time.

Probably the day you buy that.

Oh, by the way, it's available for 10 grand,

by the way, you just need to come and get it.

But does that tickle you?

No, not two or 550.

Because when I drove it, this sounds really

not ungrateful, but I could see everything

that was wrong with it, if that makes sense.

But I could see a path to making it good.

I was like, right, a little bit better on the

suspension, I'd be great.

A little bit better on the throttle,

response to the ITBs and the sound,

that would be great.

I couldn't own one and not do things to it.

I'm sure I could own like maybe a 355 or a

599, but I also, I want the 550 that I buy to

feel special.

I don't want it to be undermined by having a

previous one and be like, I don't want that

car to ever feel like, that's just the 550.

I want that to be like, that's the 550.

That's the one that I did it.

I got it and now it's fixed and now it's working.

So I would, 'cause like you said the other

week, it feels like you're not that on it.

I'm not that on it because there isn't a car

yet that's presented itself.

When it does, it'll be go time.

It'll be big time go mode.

But also the prices are only going one way.

They are going up.

I say they are still expensive.

I think the estimate on that one you're

talking about was about 70 to 80.

Yeah, which I think.

Which is a lot of money, but in the realm of

a V12 front engine Ferrari with a manual

gear, gearbox that hasn't got any hybrid

stuff, it hasn't got anything like that.

That's a proper Ferrari.

You've got to look back at them in 10 years

and go, "How hell wasn't everyone buying those?"

Yeah, exactly.

No, it will happen.

It will happen.

I give you my words.

God wills it.

So Jeremy, mate, come on now.

Jeremy.

I've come to terms, get some credit on your phone mate.

Jeremy, it's not happening with Jeremy.

We had a good run, Jeremy and I.

There's some other potentials.

It's time for us to see other people.

If you happen to come running back at some

point, maybe we'll make it work.

This is a tactic.

He'll realize what he's missed.

You don't

1:26:39 Breaking Up with Jeremy

need him mate.

You don't need him.

Ben's breaking up with the S2000.

He can't hurt you anymore.

I'm breaking up with Jeremy.

Shall we finish on a Wii game?

Yes.

Let's do it.

This is a game I've crafted from something on

the Instagram or TikTok or other.

You've stolen it.

I've stolen it, basically.

But it wasn't a game to them,

but it will be a game to us.

It's like us to create the worst car.

Oh, okay.

But we've got six categories,

basically.

Okay.

And we've put a car in each category that

together would make the worst possible car.

Lovely.

So I think we'll all make our own choices.

Okay, yeah.

So we'll have our own one.

Would you like to start T.S.R?

Let's start.

There you go, hello mate.

It's a 1590 with twin pipes as well,

so.

It could be a 1750.

Sorry, that isn't on the screen for the audio listeners.

Anywho.

Right.

Engine.

The worst possible engine.

Just the worst car.

I'm not the worst is your own.

So yeah, please, please, whatever.

You take it away from me.

For me, I was thinking like some sort of like

non-turbo diesel.

All tough.

But a van.

I'm gonna throw it back.

I'm gonna throw something out there.

Okay.

Because I've got engine and gearbox separate.

I'm gonna put an S85 V10.

Do you know what?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

What?

Because, no, because I think if I combine

that with some things later on,

it's not bad.

The engine's good.

But if you can't use it or do it properly,

then it's matched.

So that's my engine.

Okay.

So the BMW V10 from the early 2000s.

That's my engine.

What was my engine?

So I was gonna go down the same line,

but for just having to deal with it.

It never really warms up, having that sort of deal.

I'm gonna go with a beetle engine.

Oh, wonderful.

So just a flat fork.

I was thinking we go smaller,

something like a Fiat 500 Wachento engine,

but there's some soul to it.

There's some feeling to that.

However, a beetle flat four,

I have one as my first car, just so

incredibly dull and the clatter,

it makes you want a diesel.

It would be horrible, Ben.

I'm going for some sort of modern,

sort of NA3 cylinder.

But you can't move.

But great noise though.

Not really.

You know what would be good is an F20C,

like an S2000 engine, but paired with

something that does not let you use that car.

Well, this is onto the next bit.

I decided to split up engine and gearbox for

this reason at all.

Sure.

Is that my gearbox, mated to my S85 V10,

will be the three-speed auto from my Hadlach.

Oh God.

Because it will just be, you will never,

ever get the engine.

It will make a great noise sometimes,

of course.

So there is some positives here.

Maybe it's not quite the worst,

but how frustrating would that be?

I've got that engine, but I'm just,

all I've got is three speeds.

I can't change gears myself.

Yeah.

There is none of that.

There's no downshift, there's no anything.

Or anything.

Well, mine's related, I'm gonna go with the

coding sec direct drive.

So it's just, it's Volkswagen Beetle Clatter,

forever.

It's just eternal clatter.

That's all it will do.

Gearbox for you, Ben.

I'm going DCT, but in my slow,

'cause it's been constantly changing gear.

I was confused, I was like, why would you put

a DCT with that?

It's 85, that's not yours.

Well, be good.

It's gonna be a...

48 horsepower in line three,

NA, and it's gonna, it

needs to talk, so it's just constantly changing gear.

So you're just like, I like the sound of...

Yeah.

Ben's car sounds great.

I never go in that.

Just coming into a round about,

going from seventh to second.

And the second foot your foot down,

it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna,

it will downshift like five years.

So D7 speed, DCT is what you're going for.

I'm gonna go for almost cruising speed.

10 speed, DCT.

A 10 speed.

Okay.

I don't know if that was to take it.

You'll take it, maybe.

Yeah.

That's our forward auto, bottom type thing.

Next up is interior.

Okay.

Now this is a, it's gonna be,

it feels American would be right.

What's the, is there body style first?

Body style is the next one.

Okay.

We can start with body style.

Can we do body style first?

Let's start with body style first.

That relates to the interior.

So exterior, so like your visuals.

Okay.

Would, are you starting?

I think.

A half ton SUV coupe.

I was immediately.

Oh, rough.

Oh, rough.

I was immediately thinking like Chevrolet

SSR, PT Cruiser.

That's tough.

Okay.

Multiply, I don't mind too much,

actually.

I think that's a much maligned automobile.

Crazy.

The multiple.

Because it has, there is reason.

Right.

Okay.

It doesn't need to be that ugly,

but anyway.

But PT Cruiser, I think, is that right?

A PT Cruiser with an S85.

I'm going in three speed of water.

And three speed of water.

So small sports car.

Oh, okay.

So S2000 actually is probably a little bit

bigger, mid-sized sports car.

Yep.

So that your brain looks at it and goes,

fantastic.

That is going to be a driving experience.

And then you get in, it goes,

(car revving) that is a forever.

So it sort of falls at engine swap.

Immediately you're upset.

Yeah.

Like you're just, you're like,

this could be cool.

But no.

Because that's, again, it's,

you look at the MX-5 and it doesn't look that bad.

Yeah.

Which is, again, you think, maybe that's not

the worst, but it's the stark,

contrast.

Yeah.

Whereas what I'm going for is,

you're just going, it's just all out,

it's just horrible.

It looks awful.

Then you start it and you go.

Bloody hell.

(laughs)

Just have 5B to be 10.

And then you go, hang on, where do I go?

I know.

What's going on?

There's a, you have it

three on the tree.

(laughs)

So interior next.

Interior next.

Again, I'm thinking America.

America's getting a lot of flack here.

I'm going like some sort of GMC from the 90s,

but with that weird--

GMT 800.

But with the material will be,

like, it's, you know, crushed velvet,

but without the shine.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That weird material that have the 90s in America.

Oh, sorry, wait, crushed velvet,

you're going for like a more,

like a, a, a Luxo barge from the,

like a Velour.

Yeah, like 17 knots.

Yeah, like 17 knots.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, interesting.

But maybe a corduroy in there,

but a bad corduroy.

All colors.

They fit with colors.

All kinds of brown.

Okay.

But you won't know whether it originally was

beige or brown.

Tough, that's a tough one.

And then all of the, and then we're just

talking black, plastic dashboard,

four spoke steering wheel.

Awful.

I quite like the idea.

I don't know how I'd adapt this into a PT Cruiser.

So again, there's a lot of imagination taking place here.

But the interior of the microcar,

I haven't been in many interiors that have

felt quite as shit as that.

And I know that there's, again,

there's a reason that it's cheap.

It's a small, tiny car, but it does feel like

being in a wheelie bin.

It is awful, but like that level of build

quality on the interior,

Yeah, really unpleasant.

Mine's similar, I'm going 80s British

Leyland, 70s, 80s, probably more 70s

actually, because I want like wood veneer

that's just chipping away, kind of just

lazily put on, put together,

lots of horrible kind of like chrome finishes

and trims around things, things that just

have no place in anything.

And then a, one of those steering wheels

that's quite thin, thin like a,

almost like, you know, ivory,

they have like, that kind of piano black

style steering wheel, very thin,

you know, so you can saw it at the wheel,

but it has one of those chrome trim horns

around the center, the very 70s looking,

again, completely mismatching the exterior.

So you go to the car and you're like,

it's going to be great, getting you go,

what am I inside?

What is the steering wheel?

Why can't I get my knees under the steering wheel?

I think what I'm doing is inadvertently

building a beach buggy.

Yeah, pretty much.

That might be what I'm doing.

Yes.

Pretty much.

Just looks a bit more modern.

Yeah.

For the next category, we have reliability.

Now, I'm aware that can be tied in with the

engine in the gearbox, but take your engine

and just say that that's it.

It will run forever, but you add in a little

bit of your reliability comes from elsewhere.

Mine would be quite reliable.

No, but you can choose.

That's what I mean, the NA3 cylinder.

No, but it doesn't have to do that.

So for instance, for me, I'm going to take my

reliability sort of inspiration from 80s Italian.

where the wiring and the electrics are kind

of a suggestion.

There are at some point they were going to work.

They did work maybe, but now it's up to you.

So you're just left with kind of random

electrical faults that don't seem to start or

end anywhere.

They just prevent you from doing anything.

I was thinking sort of 80s, 90s TVR in terms

of like just who knows how that's built.

Unlabeled.

No one knows what that is.

When we took the dash out of that camera,

you can't build cars like that.

No, professionally.

They can't do that.

They can't keep getting away with this.

They can't literally didn't.

And they didn't.

I did think about that.

And then I was reminded of our dear friend Rory Mackay.

And I thought an N14 Mini has just the amount

of frustration required.

So it's just doing nothing ever seems to be the same.

Like one minute it's a cool issue.

The next minute it's a head gap.

issue, combine that with the fact that I'm

running an S85 to be tough.

So S85, I'm not, you know, it's relatively reliable.

It's little bits and bobs here and there.

But if it was like, hey, oil pumps failed.

Gone.

Next day's gone.

You know, not long ago, I'll put a new engine in it.

Dead.

Next week.

Unfortunately, that was there too.

Another 510 grand.

Off you go.

So it's a little combo, I think is nice.

Mine's an inline three with DCT.

Right.

So it's going to be people are going to look

at it and go, that's reliable.

And I get that.

I'm taking my reliability from Jag.

Oh, so yours just overcomplicated.

Yeah, overcomplicated.

And then you would expect it to work because

it looks like it would work.

And it just doesn't.

Okay, yeah.

Just constantly like little sensors dying.

Just everything.

Just things going wrong.

Nothing on the internet about why.

Yeah, really frustrating.

You have to pull up an all tell every four

minutes to try and work out anything that's going wrong.

Exactly.

But it's paired with DCT and an inline three,

which is quite reliable.

Do you know what?

That's, I think that's a good one.

I think you've gone quite well there.

Running costs is the final one.

So that again, don't worry about what engine you've got.

You've just got right.

I want the running costs.

So that's how much it's going to cost when

you're on fuel.

How much is it going to cost to ensure?

How much is it possibly going to cost to buy?

That sort of thing.

I was thinking like to make it really bad.

It's a little bit unrealistic.

Like you could just go for like a share on.

40 grand tires.

Every time you go straight out the back,

like you're spending 80 grand a service.

Because that really would make that P.T.

Cruiser with the Vita.

Like you'd really no one want this at all.

I know what I'm going to do.

The thing about the Saw movies,

right?

The only reason anyone participates in the

traps is because of a promise,

the promise of freedom.

So my cost to run, dirt cheap.

Easy to run, right?

Cost you nothing.

So that people go, is it worth it?

Do I deal with all of these other issues?

Because this car is like the Lupo 3.

It's a Lupo 3.

Everything works.

So that there's just thousands,

hundreds of thousands of people subject

themselves to my horrible car,

just clattering around in a direct-trivial

engine, surrounded by 70s British Leyland.

Lovely, perfect, bound to the last detail.

Mine's going to be completely mediocre across

the board, frustratingly so,

kind of X5 in nature.

But it's like, it does an MPG,

it's not that bad, but it's also it's like 25 to 30.

Every now and then you go, God's sake.

Tax is 430 pounds a year, so it's not like,

oh, I can't buy the car, but it's all it's

like, oh, it could be cheaper.

Parts, hard to fit, quite cheap.

Cheap enough where you think,

oh, it's fine, it will break.

And also so that people go, I'll DIY this.

I'll do this myself.

Exactly.

I will not do that.

Then they delve into that DCT and go,

what stuff?

And hard to get parts, and the parts centers

are always closed one day of the week.

Oh, like Audi spec, where they just go,

cars three and a bit years old now,

no more parts.

And when you try and get through to the

parts, people at the dealership come.

No pick up.

Great.

It's just called reception.

We don't make that part.

You rely simply on Autodock.

Yeah, exactly.

You've got to wait two weeks for every part to arrive.

I was thinking of the RS6 as well,

going with RS6 running costs.

That's going, it'll break 2000 pounds.

Engine out everything.

Everything is engine out.

Your tax is the max.

You don't get any, your fuel economy is

absolutely destroyed.

I think I will run with RS6.

I was thinking that Bentley Continental,

any Bentley, any sort of, Atty's a little bit

in our spick stream.

I want some people to buy it.

I want some people to experience the horror

of the S85 equipped, PT Cruiser.

Right, that's quite nice.

I would like the creamers to let us know down

in the comments, which is the worst car,

which is the car you would like to own the least.

Benjamin's three-cylinder SUV that has DCT,

Williams S85 powered PT Cruiser shaped

horrible thing or my Volkswagen Beetle with

direct drive in the shape of an S2000.

Thank you very much for listening to this

week's episode of

the Cream Podcast.

We will be back next week as always.

As

always, cream get the money,

dollar-dollar bills.

Goodbye S2000.